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Title: System Shock 3 Info'z
Post by: Flood on August 16, 2006, 05:13:29 PM
Sorry if this is posted somewhere onsite that I didn't see. (I looked)

Blatant Corpnews post rip (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/08/07/ea-does-give-a-sh-t-about-system-shock-3-says-pc-gamer-uk/)




Title: Re: System Shock 3 Info'z
Post by: schild on August 16, 2006, 05:25:04 PM
Yea, read that a while ago. Would have posted it, but:

1. EA Boycott.
2. Godfather Team? Fuck. That. Noise.


Title: Re: System Shock 3 Info'z
Post by: Flood on August 16, 2006, 05:33:52 PM
I agree on both counts however my intense fanboi ghey love of the Sytem Shock series came to the fore. 

Since reading the blurb I'm reminding myself that whatever end product comes out of this whole process probably won't be the high caliber of it's predecessors.  /crossing fingers: Bioshock


Title: Re: System Shock 3 Info'z
Post by: geldonyetich on August 16, 2006, 06:01:04 PM
Whether or not they screw up System Shock 3, there's always BioShock.


Title: Re: System Shock 3 Info'z
Post by: schild on August 16, 2006, 06:02:19 PM
/me posts in a thread to mention Bioshock.

Which only shares the word "shock" with the System Shock series.

Sure, it'll be great, but it's no SHODAN.

Edit: Yes, this was a mocking post.


Title: Re: System Shock 3 Info'z
Post by: Strazos on August 17, 2006, 04:58:55 AM
I'm sorry to say I have never played either of the System Shock games.

Are either of them freeware yet?  :evil:


Title: Re: System Shock 3 Info'z
Post by: Ironwood on August 17, 2006, 07:36:42 AM
Both System Shock games were the fucking mecha Jesus.  No questions.

Bioshock will similarly be awesome.  System Shock 3 will be a pile of poo, probably with a shitty console port in mind.


Title: Re: System Shock 3 Info'z
Post by: Rasix on August 17, 2006, 08:06:21 AM
I'm sorry to say I have never played either of the System Shock games.

Are either of them freeware yet?  :evil:

You can probably get both at Underdogs (I got SS2 there). I'm not sure if that's YARRRR! territory or not.

I had never played SS2 until last year. Played it without the texture upgrades (none were really done) and the game looked awefully dated. It was pretty difficult to get it running also (vid issues with the video format they used).  Still, it was bliss.  Really one of the best games ever made.


Title: Re: System Shock 3 Info'z
Post by: Yegolev on August 18, 2006, 06:50:18 AM
I'm sorry to say I have never played either of the System Shock games.

Are either of them freeware yet?  :evil:

Your momma is freeware.

I can run System Shock in DOSBox, but not terribly well.  SS2 should run OK, but if I was going to bother to replay one of them, it would be the first one.  No idea where to get it.  Google or something.


Title: Re: System Shock 3 Info'z
Post by: Yegolev on August 18, 2006, 06:52:12 AM
System Shock 3 will be a pile of poo, probably with a shitty console port in mind.

SHODAN wants to invade the Xbox, too, interface and controls be fucked.


Title: Re: System Shock 3 Info'z
Post by: geldonyetich on August 18, 2006, 10:26:03 AM
As much as I'd like to think I've sufficient evidence to believe that a console release would destroy a good PC game series (after all, look what it did to Deus Ex 2)...

System Shock 2 was also in development for the Dreamcast.  Was canceled before release, but...


Title: Re: System Shock 3 Info'z
Post by: Rasix on August 19, 2006, 11:14:39 PM
System Shock 2 was also in development for the Dreamcast.  Was canceled before release, but...

System Shock 2 would have made a good console game.  The change in controls would have hurt it just about as bad as it hurt RE4... not much.


Title: Re: System Shock 3 Info'z
Post by: Kitsune on August 20, 2006, 09:48:30 PM
If EA had the brain cells to just hand Irrational a bag of money to make SS3 for them, I'd take back every bad thing I've ever said about them.  Instead, EA as usual lacks the neurons sufficient to even take a crap properly and stabbed the best game franchise ever in the neck.

Well, bye System Shock.  Holding hopes high for Bioshock.


Title: Re: System Shock 3 Info'z
Post by: Sky on August 21, 2006, 12:37:55 PM
SS3 without Irrational? Heh.


Title: Re: System Shock 3 Info'z
Post by: geldonyetich on August 22, 2006, 08:44:02 AM
All this vitriol over System Shock 3 being made by one of the thousands of branches of EA.  Granted, EA has alienated gamers everywhere with alot of their past business practices, myself included.  (Bring back Bikini Girl biatch!)  However, I've gotta say, this sure points at the impact of brand name.  How much of World of Warcraft's success was a Blizzard logo on the box?


Title: Re: System Shock 3 Info'z
Post by: Rasix on August 22, 2006, 09:31:41 AM
How much of World of Warcraft's success was a Blizzard logo on the box?

For initial box sales, probably quite a bit. Retention was helped by it not sucking balls.

Irrational's repuatation and name on the box might mean a lot to us, but to the average PC games consumer, it likely means very little. 


Title: Re: System Shock 3 Info'z
Post by: Sky on August 22, 2006, 09:48:35 AM
Geldon, it's quite justified. Did you play KotOR? Did you play KotOR2? Developer changes can have a huge impact. Irrational has a track record of great games. Those other cats made the Godfather.

It has a chance of being ok. I just wouldn't place my bets on those odds. I would bet that Bioshock kicks ass eight ways to sunday.

EA doesn't really factor in beyond Kit's points.


Title: Re: System Shock 3 Info'z
Post by: geldonyetich on August 22, 2006, 10:09:35 AM
I'm definately on board with Irrational being all kinds of awesome, not only with the robot jesus incarnate, System Shock 2, but with its lesser vassals in the Freedom Force series.

Yet, and I know I may be smited by the gods on high to say this, there's a chance that the EA satelight company that made Godfather can do a reasonable job at a System Shock game.  Taking the high production values of Godfather and marrying them to the awesome core gameplay of the SS series... there's a chance it could turn out very good.

Or it could be crap.  Which would be yet another EA-inflicted travesty on the core of the PC gaming audience.  I'm hoping not, but my optimism oft gets me in trouble 'round these parts.


Title: Re: System Shock 3 Info'z
Post by: HaemishM on August 22, 2006, 11:35:01 AM
If EA had the brain cells to just hand Irrational a bag of money to make SS3 for them, I'd take back every bad thing I've ever said about them.  Instead, EA as usual lacks the neurons sufficient to even take a crap properly and stabbed the best game franchise ever in the neck.

Well, bye System Shock.  Holding hopes high for Bioshock.

I imagine it'd have to be a lot of money for Irrational not to go tell EA to fuck itself. EA treated them quite poorly with the patching for Freedom Force.