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Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on July 07, 2004, 12:10:49 PM
Calendar says July, so training camp will be starting soon. I am especially excited this year for two reasons-

A) The Seahawks are looking pretty damned good (kiss of death)
B) The Mariners suck unholy ass, and I need a local sports fix

Looking for a head count of folks who are interested in a league this year. I would LIKE to do a live draft, which shouldn't take as long as Haemish's baseball league (and even that was tolerable). Yahoo supported live drafts last year (and they are free!), so it is likely I will use them again.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on July 07, 2004, 12:26:40 PM
The Giants shall suck badly again this year... /sigh.

I'll be in again.  Life draft might be sketchy for me, but given advance notice I can participate.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: UD_Delt on July 07, 2004, 12:38:36 PM
I'd be in. I'm very excited about this coming football season.

The Browns offense is looking better than last year and no other team in the division has really done much of anything in the off season so the Brownies actually might have playoff potential.

Until of course Garcia's back locks up on him in the first game and we're screwed as usual...


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on July 07, 2004, 01:03:38 PM
In like Flinn, mofo.

As badly as I'm losing most of my baseball leagues this year, I need something to take the edge off. The Packers will go to the playoffs this year and blow it spectacularly in a defensive meltdown of apocaplyptic proportions. FUCK YOU, MIKE SHERMAN FOURTH AND 36 PREVENT D MY GODDAMN ASSFUCKSHITCUNTCIOUSDPRU#$*&)(....

But I'm not bitter.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Anonymous on July 07, 2004, 01:18:08 PM
Please.  The Cleveland Clowns will do about as well this year as always.

Meaning, they'll suck like a Hoover that Tim Allen rewired.

Bitter BITTER Cleveland fan.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Murgos on July 08, 2004, 07:19:34 AM
I'm there with bells on.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Soukyan on July 08, 2004, 07:43:24 AM
I'd like to be in on this again, if y'all don't mind. I will actually be able to participate for the entire season this year.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Alluvian on July 08, 2004, 07:49:25 AM
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FUCK YOU, MIKE SHERMAN FOURTH AND 36 PREVENT D MY GODDAMN ASSFUCKSHITCUNTCIOUSDPRU#$*&)(....


Watch the film.  We had TWO guys in the proximity of that pass.  It was not the play calling at fault.  It was poor timing on the guy who came across (from the top of the screen using the standard angle) and horrible positioning and adjustment by the guy standing casually behind the receiver so that he could tackle him past the first down marker.  Fuck, I can't even remember their names now.  I forget everything in the offseason or else I spend the whole time pining away waiting for football.  But I had that play downloaded and watched it about 20 times.  The defensive playcall can only put people near the ball.  The players have to make something happen.  Coach can't do that.

That play was SO not Sherman's fault.  Other things in that game I could give you.  But not that play.

That said, the packers have some SERIOUS problems this year.  McKenzie is not going to play.  He is going to sit out the season to get out of his contract before he will step on the field.  He is just pissed off at life.  The little whiny bitch.  So our secondary needs some big help from players with little to no NFL experience.  And this is a secondary that got us burned in WAY too many games already last year.  That new defensive coordinator will have to be a miracle worker.  I have always blamed our defensive back coach though, whoever that is.  Our guys seem trained to just follow the receiver around the field and they never actually pay attention to where the ball is.

We have FOUR receivers.  Walker, Fergusen, Driver.... and... FORD???  Who the fuck is ford?  He has never really played, never looked any good when he has played, and on top of that he has an injury going into this season.  Oh, great.  We have nobody else.  We go four wideouts (which we do a lot) and we have ford on the field.  If ANYONE gets hurt we have him on three wideout sets.  That is real bad news.  Sure we have done silly things last year like lining HENDERSON out wide, lining Green out wide, and using our tight end sets more often, but still things look ugly for receivers.  And nothing gets Favre more annoyed than having receivers that can't make plays by either never getting open or dropping the fucking ball.  Once Favre gets annoyed the game is over.  He will play like shit till next week.  By playing like shit I mean Favre's classic taking the game into his own hands mentality by throwing passes he should not into triple coverage and throwing to receivers like he is trying to impale them on a spit.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on July 08, 2004, 08:09:29 AM
I blame everything on Mike Sherman.

He loves offense; he's like Spurrier except he actually knows how to make offensive plays work. But he gets a 2 TD lead and has the offense sit on their fucking hands. The defense is NEVER good enough to hold leads, because he doesn't pick defensive talent for shit. He's lucked into KGB and a few linebackers. DB's are total shit. McKenzie is the only decent one, and he gets burned too much. He can sit his whiny pussy ass out all season for all I care, it won't make much difference. Without Leroy Butler in that secondary, it flounders, and the front 4 hasn't been good enough to cover up the secondary's weaknesses.

I still think 4th and 36, after having pressured the shit out of the QB for 3 straight downs, there was no reason to rush only 3 guys and put the rest of those retards into coverage. Practically handed them the TD, just like he handed them the ball over and over again the 3rd quarter by running shitty run plays straight up the gut over and over.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Alluvian on July 08, 2004, 08:21:59 AM
Butler is a coaching assistant now for the team.  Something that I like.  I always thought he would make a good coach, as his onfield presence always seemed to heighten the play of others around him.  I want him to be our secondary coach period.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on July 08, 2004, 09:30:38 AM
Ok- I set up the league. Check out the scoring settings and such and let me know if you have any major objections. The major changes I made were
 to grant 1 point per reception (to help balance between RBs and WRs....most leagues are so slanted to RBs that if you don't get 2 studs, you are buggered)

tinkered with the defensive scoring (increased the scoring both postive and negative)

tripled the scoring for a safety (they are worth more in terms of momentum and field position than the 2 points that go on the scoreboard)

added some negative points for missing short field goals

I also set up a live draft for 8PM PDT on Friday August 27th (the only times available on the weekends were like 6 AM, and fuck that). If we can't get almost everyone on board for a live draft, we can always switch it to auto (I REALLY prefer live if possible). Let me know if this date is a deal-breaker, and I can look into alternates.

Edit- changed from Sept 3, which filled up as I was typing this post and not finishing the league registration.

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League ID#: 41002
 
League Name: F13 FFL
 
Password: nothingissacred
 
Draft Type: Live Draft  
 
Draft Time: Fri Aug 27 8:00pm PDT [ Add to My Calendar ]  
 
Max Teams: 12
 
Scoring Type: Head-to-Head  
 
Max Moves: No maximum  
 
Max Trades: No maximum  
 
Trade Reject Time: 2  
 
Trade End Date: November 19, 2004  
 
Waiver Time: 2 days  
 
Can't Cut List Provider: None  
 
Trade Review: League Votes  
 
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules  
 
Start Scoring on: Week 1  
 
 
 
Roster Positions: QB, WR, WR, RB, TE, WR/RB, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN  
 
Stat Categories: Passing Yards (25 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (6)
Interceptions (-2)
Rushing Yards (10 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Receptions (1)
Reception Yards (10 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-2)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5)
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards (-2)
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards (-2)
Field Goals Missed 30-39 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 40-49 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 50+ Yards (0)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Sack (1)
Interception (2)
Fumble Recovery (6)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (2)
Block Kick (2)
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns (6)
Points Allowed 0 points (12)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (9)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (6)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (3)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (1)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (0)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-10)  
 
Fractional Points: Yes  
 
Negative Points: Yes  


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on July 08, 2004, 09:40:04 AM
One problem with the reception thing: Tomlinson will score like 40 points a game.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on July 12, 2004, 03:40:32 PM
Very possibly. On a whole, however, I think it evens the field a bit more, especially for the folks stuck picking in spots 8-11 or so. With 'regular' scoring, the common wisdom is to take running backs with your first 2 picks, unless you can get a PREMIUM WR or QB. With WRs getting a boost, alternate draft strategies become viable, instead of the same old thing..."Should I draft Eddie George, even though he is older than dirt and barely bipedal from all his injuries? He IS a starting tailback...".

Only 3 folks signed up so far....get crackin'! Only 46 more days until the draft is scheduled!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on July 13, 2004, 11:40:37 AM
Signed up.... didn't read the quote earlier that had the league ID and password.

Help a brother out with a link or somethin'!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on July 13, 2004, 12:30:27 PM
The Roosters are back.

I say we start a keeper league, with last year's rosters as the initial setup :)


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on July 13, 2004, 01:50:49 PM
Linkage (http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/)

League ID#: 41002

League Name: F13 FFL

Password: nothingissacred


6 spots left.

I have no idea why I didn't include the link in the first place...brain cramp!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on July 31, 2004, 09:37:36 AM
The Murdoc Bandwagon is BACK!

Took me awhile to journey back over here, but looking forward to being back in this league, last year's waterthread league was arguably the best one I was in last year.

FYI the Bucs are BACK this year!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Zetleft on August 01, 2004, 12:05:54 AM
Quote from: murdoc
last year's waterthread league was arguably the best one I was in last year.


Oh yeah this was the only one you weren't wtp pwn3d in.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on August 01, 2004, 07:08:12 AM
Are you suggesting that I did slightly above mediocre in ANY Football league last year Zet? If so, you are sadly mistaken...


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on August 12, 2004, 01:38:56 PM
Ok, we could use one more player being that we have 9 and are a head-to-head league instead of pure points.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 12, 2004, 02:57:49 PM
I have a couple of buddies who I can call on to join if we are short. I would like to get 12, but 10 would suffice.

BTW I am going with Ricky Williams, David Boston, and Marcel Shipp. Pwn!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on August 12, 2004, 03:08:37 PM
Hah. Two of those guys were on my team last year. So was Boldin.  Thank god we didn't play a keeper's league.  Of course, the only one of those duds I would have kept would be Boldin, and he won't be out for THAT long.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Arcadian Del Sol on August 13, 2004, 06:35:41 AM
I apologize for being the worst fantasy baseball team manager ever - some real life trauma really bashed my season and i never really wanted to look at it again.

As for football, I'm the loser of the last Waterthread Super Bowl, so I would hope I get a 2nd chance at the trophy.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 13, 2004, 10:15:16 AM
If you haven't joined already Arc, there are 2 spots left. See above for league info.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Arcadian Del Sol on August 13, 2004, 10:29:11 AM
1 spot left. I'm in.

If its not too late and its still an option, lets do a keeper league.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 24, 2004, 02:45:25 PM
Bumpage. Draft is this Friday. I know it is tough for some folks to make it in person, so make sure to get your prerankings done (Yahoo's are done by a chimpanzee who has never actually seen a football, much less a game).

I don't think Yahoo supports keeper leagues- anyone know for sure? That would be one way for me to end the career of any player I choose; just designate him as my keeper and watch the carnage.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: UD_Delt on August 25, 2004, 07:30:15 AM
Damn noticed this message too late. League is now full.

Good luck all.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on August 26, 2004, 11:54:21 AM
Quote from: WayAbvPar

I don't think Yahoo supports keeper leagues- anyone know for sure? That would be one way for me to end the career of any player I choose; just designate him as my keeper and watch the carnage.


I've been checking around with the leagues I'm running and I can't see an option for a keeper league. I would think the only way to do it is have one person record who's keeping who and then run an offline draft in IRC next year.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on August 26, 2004, 04:30:32 PM
The draft order editing thingamajig hates me.  Can't make the live draft late tomorrow night, so I will leave my fate in the hands of yahoo and my l33t trading skillz!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on August 26, 2004, 04:36:58 PM
You're going to end up with a wretched team.  They have some of the stupidest rankings EVAR.

That being said, you'll wind up with Lewis and Holmes again this year. Bastard.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 27, 2004, 09:29:01 AM
Draft is TONIGHT- 8 pm PDT (11 EDT). I know that is a bit late, but it was the best time I could procure (the others were like 6 am on weekend mornings- fuck that).

Anyone want to get a small monetary pool together? Say, $5 each, winner take all? Not everyone has to participate- the highest finisher of those who pledge money takes the pot.

Once again- for those of you who cannot make the live draft- RANK YOUR PLAYERS! The Yahoo rankings are just retarded, and you will cripple your team if you let them draft. If you rank your top 100, that should at least get you off to a decent start.


Title: Choke on it, Arcadian.
Post by: Shockeye on August 27, 2004, 01:46:33 PM
I'll throw in $5.

Also, make sure you pre-rank nothing but kickers for your first 15 ranks.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on August 27, 2004, 02:24:06 PM
Quote from: WayAbvPar

Once again- for those of you who cannot make the live draft- RANK YOUR PLAYERS! The Yahoo rankings are just retarded, and you will cripple your team if you let them draft. If you rank your top 100, that should at least get you off to a decent start.


I must be toast then, since I didn't change the Yahoo rankings around too much :(


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 27, 2004, 02:26:43 PM
Quote from: murdoc
Quote from: WayAbvPar

Once again- for those of you who cannot make the live draft- RANK YOUR PLAYERS! The Yahoo rankings are just retarded, and you will cripple your team if you let them draft. If you rank your top 100, that should at least get you off to a decent start.


I must be toast then, since I didn't change the Yahoo rankings around too much :(


So, you are in for $5, right? =P


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on August 27, 2004, 02:44:35 PM
The funny thing is that last year I was in a league that did a live draft except 2 people who went with Yahoo's default.

Either all of us were idiots, or Yahoo was lucky, but they smoked EVERYONE.

That made as all very sad.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: w00tang on August 27, 2004, 02:51:28 PM
I know I haven't posted probably since last fantasy football season but I just remembered about the yearly one here and I just looked to see if it was still open, but its not...Do you think you guys could let me in??

Please!!! I want to play!

P.S. Haha sorry I've been away so long....busiest year of my life and in a good way.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Murgos on August 28, 2004, 06:37:42 AM
So, even though I missed the draft I am pretty happy with how it came out for me.  I think I would have probably taken a hit earlier on a RB to grab Peyton considering that his point output alone won me several games last season but I can't complain about Favre either.  I'll just have to hope his old bones can make it through the season and that his arm still has enough zip left to get it into the end zone.

Other than that I'm pretty solid on my RB/WR corps and I'm happy with my D even though the dolphins traded away Ogunleye (sp?) they still should be very solid.  I really don't see any major holes in my team except maybe in the area of Back-Up RB's if rookie Kevin Jones doesn't pan out (though he looks good on paper and in his limited first preseason game).


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Zetleft on August 28, 2004, 09:21:53 PM
Quote from: murdoc
The funny thing is that last year I was in a league that did a live draft except 2 people who went with Yahoo's default.

Either all of us were idiots, or Yahoo was lucky, but they smoked EVERYONE.

That made as all very sad.


/bows


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on August 29, 2004, 10:45:09 AM
Happy that I was able to do most of the rounds manually before I had to run.  I made some moves I liked and a couple boneheaded mistakes, so I probably broke even against letting Yahoo pick them for me.

Anyway, who do you all think looks sharp this year?  Taking a glance through the rosters, the Bandwagon and the Maroons (could we have a worst to first story?) look pretty scary.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on August 29, 2004, 11:35:12 PM
Wow. That wasn't a great draft for me.  I got the "Ming Vase" (thanks for that apt description Way) of the NFL, Taylor, and some banged up and unspectacular players. I'm happy getting Manning, Smith and Martin but uggg.   I have a feeling it wouldn't have gone so bad if I would have been there in person, but I guess my rankings weren't really that good either.

I'm going to have to pull off some waiver wire magic or I'm going to be the resident cellar dweller. And yay, Warner is the starter in NY.  Time to break up the Manning twins.

If people stay healthy I can work with this team, but it's looking like a terrible uphill climb.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on August 30, 2004, 12:15:26 PM
I think I will probably end up being about as mediocre as I normally am. Vick as QB (please God keep his legs safe), Brady as backup. Rudi Johnson better have a killer year in Cincy or I'm screwed, and Darrell Jackson/Javon Walker WR combo isn't going to light up the night either.

My preseason pick for winner of this league is Arc or Murdoc.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on August 30, 2004, 12:39:08 PM
I'm pleased with my team, but could really use a top-tier WR. Taking Gonzalez as early as I did, I sacrificed a stud WR, but I think I'll be happy with the results.

I should at least be competitive this year


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on September 10, 2004, 08:37:24 AM
Always nice to start the season with a big zero-point explosion from Marcus Pollard.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 10, 2004, 09:18:45 AM
Quote from: El Gallo
Always nice to start the season with a big zero-point explosion from Marcus Pollard.


Dallas Clark had a nice game. TE by committee is a minefield for fantasy owners.

What a great game last night. Wouldn't you know that it would come down to Vanderjagt missing for the first time in more than a year? If Manning doesn't take that sack from McGinest the play before, that is a chip shot FG and we go to OT.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on September 10, 2004, 09:23:22 AM
If Edgerrin James doesn't play Fumblestiltskin Visits the Red Zone, the McGinest sack is moot.

Great game, though, totally worth watching. I hope the Sunday games are even half as exciting.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 10, 2004, 09:25:49 AM
Quote from: HaemishM
If Edgerrin James doesn't play Fumblestiltskin Visits the Red Zone, the McGinest sack is moot.

Great game, though, totally worth watching. I hope the Sunday games are even half as exciting.


Tell me about it. I have James in my big money league. Not only did he fumble twice, he took himself out of the game at the 10 yard line and let Rhodes score MY touchdown! I was screaming expletives at the TV during that sequence. Gotta love football!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Murgos on September 10, 2004, 09:46:33 AM
I guess picking up Branch at the last minute was a good move.  Almost 90 yds and a TD ain't too shabby.

Maybe I'm a fool for throwing Emmit to the dogs for a reciever but I just don't see him putting up numbers to outpace any of my other three RB's with starting positions.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on September 10, 2004, 10:38:52 AM
Yeah, my team is weak as hell at TE/D/K.  I just can't turn down the RBs and WRs when they bat their eyelashes at me.

Last night was entertaining, but not that great a game I thought.  There should be at least a little defense played at some point in my book.  Then again I like a good 7-0 game better than anything, and would probably favor the removal of the forward pass.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: shiznitz on September 10, 2004, 12:45:50 PM
Quote from: Zetleft
Quote from: murdoc
The funny thing is that last year I was in a league that did a live draft except 2 people who went with Yahoo's default.

Either all of us were idiots, or Yahoo was lucky, but they smoked EVERYONE.

That made as all very sad.


/bows


That happened in my league last year as well, although the eventual winner was not an inactive auto-drafter.

This year I stuck with the official rankiungs unless I had a clear reason to second guess it. I also didn't draft any Eagles until the 10th round in an effort to not let my emotional attachments get in the way. Somehow I got Jamal Lewis as the 14th pick in a 16 team league.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Arcadian Del Sol on September 13, 2004, 04:51:57 AM
I redid my rankings but having pick #10 sucks.

Lost this week, but I did pretty well against a team that scored well over 100 points, so I'm confident I'll make a return visit to the playoffs this season. I dont know if I'll have the opportunity to fall on my face in the superbowl again, but I suppose anything is possible.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Dark Vengeance on September 13, 2004, 06:09:49 AM
Quote from: shiznitz
Somehow I got Jamal Lewis as the 14th pick in a 16 team league.


Over in the corp league, I ended up getting Jamal Lewis as well, and figured he'd be the centerpiece of my team. I guessed correctly that Quentin Griffin would have a monster game against KC, but made the mistake of starting Lewis instead of Tiki Barber.

Jamal Lewis = 2.9 Points
Tiki Barber = 21.0 points

BTW, I'd suggest that anyone who has Charles Rogers consider dropping or benching him pronto. Early reports say he broke his collarbone again against Chicago.

Bring the noise.
Cheers...............


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Arcadian Del Sol on September 13, 2004, 06:12:03 AM
Wait until Jamal starts fumbling.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on September 13, 2004, 06:12:22 AM
Well, the title defense is not off to the best start.  Barring an absolute explosion by Stephen Davis tonight, we'll be 0-1.  TO's monster start could not overcome Jamal Lewis and Byron Leftwich failing to show up for their respective games.  My boys on the bench would have given me s strong chance to win.  Who would've thought that both Bettis (best stat line in NFL history: 1 yard, 3 TDs) and William Green would rake in more than double the points of Jamal Lewis playing against the Browns?  Taking Leftwich vs BUF over Garcia vs CLE was a bit of a closer call, but I didn't think either would be pulling down over double the points of the other.

On the upside, my recieving corps looks pretty solid, with 4 guys putting up decent or better numbers.  Hopefully there will be something there to make a trade with in future weeks.

My condolances go out to the Nose Pickers, for scoring so many points in a losing effort.   I would also like to place a bounty on Murdoc Bandwagon starters.  How the hell did we let him draft that team?


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Dark Vengeance on September 13, 2004, 07:00:20 AM
Quote from: El Gallo
Garcia vs CLE


Although at times it sure *seemed* like Garcia was playing against Cleveland, he was actually playing against Baltimore.

He had a decent game though....something like 31.25 points for me. I wish I had started Carson Palmer, as he had 33.5 points in a losing effort against the Jets.

If I had made the optimal starting choices, I would have topped 150 points.

Bring the noise.
Cheers...............


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on September 13, 2004, 07:17:13 AM
Whoopsie.  As a Steelers fan, I should have known that the Browns would screw me over.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on September 13, 2004, 12:55:38 PM
I just need Bennett to get back and I'll be happier.

I'm a couple injuries away from a very mediocre team though.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on September 13, 2004, 01:04:46 PM
Yeah, what an opponent to start out against. Isaac Bruce against the Cardinals, Priest Holmes and fucking Culpepper agains the Cowboys. Not to mention I started Rudi Johnson over Tiki Barber and Vick over Tom Brady. I have to remember that Indy's DB's suck.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on September 13, 2004, 01:06:45 PM
I just got shitkicked.

I actually had a decent performance and depending on how Smith does tonight I'll be looking even better. Man, if Taylor had busted out I'd actually have a chance at winning. But hell, I ran into a team where everything but one player produced, and with our 1 pt per reception, he still did fine.

I think due to 14 teams being in the league, a lot of people are an injury or two away from pure mediocrity. The benches just aren't very deep.  I'm scrambling to find a set of reserves I can live with. If I don't even place in the league, I'm damn sure I'll win the "most roster moves" award.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Shockeye on September 13, 2004, 05:42:57 PM
I can only hope Favre throws 5 INTs tonight or else there's no way I'm going to make up 10 points on Murg's Maulers. Oh well. 0-1 for me, but overall I hope to be solid this year.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Alluvian on September 13, 2004, 09:54:33 PM
Who had Green?  3 TDs must look awful nice.  Not much out of Favre, but we sure held Smith to jack and shit.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Murgos on September 14, 2004, 04:52:08 AM
Me vs Arcadian should be pretty close.  Fortunately for me most of my players are up agaisnt weak Defenses (SF, Ari) this week and most of Arcs are playing strong defenses (Min, Car).


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Alluvian on September 14, 2004, 06:23:52 AM
Carolina didn't look that tough on defense on Monday.  At least not vs the run.  Although the pack does have a pretty good offensive line, they manhandled the Carolina defensive line all night.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on September 14, 2004, 06:35:35 AM
If Lewis and Davis keep combining to score 11 points, it will be a long season for the Roosters.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on September 14, 2004, 09:45:54 AM
Steve Smith broke his leg. I think I'm going to cry.

Welcome to the cellar.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Alluvian on September 14, 2004, 11:56:52 AM
Quote from: Rasix
Steve Smith broke his leg. I think I'm going to cry.

Welcome to the cellar.


Yeah, I was in a noisy bar when I was watching the game (ladies night, and a few decent looking distractions including one of the few actually HOT lesbian couples I have ever seen making out a few feet from our table) but the fall didn't look that bad at all.

I thought at the time for SURE it was a hamstring pull or something.  It just looked like he overextended trying to get to the sidelines while being tackled.  I was pretty stunned to find out it was a broken leg.  Hopefully it is a clean break that can be healed somewhat quickly and not cause any longterm effects.

Pack lost Grady Jackson as well (dislocated knee).  Who knows how long that will be, but on the defensive line niggling knee injuries can last forever.  It was Gilbert Brown's demise for years (coupled with his gargantuan weight).  Shocked that after Grady went down early that NC could not open up holes in the middle.  The few times they tried they ended up running into middle blitzes.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on September 14, 2004, 12:42:09 PM
The Panthers gave up on the run WAY too early. If they can't run, Delhomme is not going to have a good game. They just never seemed to find a good rhythm of play-calling. They'd get a screen pass to work, then they'd throw to incompletions and it's a 3 and out. Unfortunately for me, Walker didn't get too involved in the game, and Muhammed had a good game but not a great one.

Losing Jackson is going to hurt the Pack, but I'm glad to see they still managed to stuff the run enough. The Pack O Line just spanked the Panthers D Line til their asses were red. Favre doesn't have to throw much when Green and Fisher both are pulling off 6 and 7 yard runs with ease.

Panthers are going to be in serious trouble this year without Smith. He's their vertical threat. Muhammed and Proel are good, but Smith makes them better.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 15, 2004, 10:27:44 AM
I had Shaun Alexander, Charles Rogers, AND Steve Smith on the roster of one of my pay leagues. I just got talked in off the ledge a few minutes ago.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Dark Vengeance on September 15, 2004, 12:25:46 PM
Quote from: WayAbvPar
I had Shaun Alexander, Charles Rogers, AND Steve Smith on the roster of one of my pay leagues. I just got talked in off the ledge a few minutes ago.


A month ago, that was a league with championship potential.....now it's a death sentence. Toss in Anquan Boldin, or Ricky Williams in the early drafts, and they'd lock you up in a small room and take away your shoelaces.

I got lucky in my league....Jamal, Torry, Tiki, Garcia, Crumpler...and I picked up David Terrell, Carson Palmer, and Quentin Griffin in moves after the draft. So far my biggest hit has been losing Dre Bly at DB, but I promptly benched him once I picked up Sean Taylor off waivers on Monday.

Bring the noise.
Cheers.............


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Shannow on September 15, 2004, 12:30:29 PM
Im gonna bet that at least for the first half of the season Brady will be a better fantasy player than Vick...


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on September 15, 2004, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Shannow
Im gonna bet that at least for the first half of the season Brady will be a better fantasy player than Vick...


Brady last year was a really consistant performer for me.  Although, he could be unspectacular enough at times that I started Leftwich in front him depending on the matchup.

It'll be interesting this year if Brady puts up gonzo numbers instead of just doing enough to get the win.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on September 15, 2004, 12:57:10 PM
I would bet that Brady will be a better fantasy QB than Vick during the second half of the season.  Unless they give fantasy points for physical therapy sessions.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Shannow on September 15, 2004, 12:58:38 PM
Yup he has a tendancy to have those 15-22, 1 TD, 180 yard games every so often, but then again with Dillon providing an outlet, his young receivers a year more expierenced (Givens, Branch, Johnson) and the emergence of Watson and Grahame as double TE threats it might be him that carries the Pats and not the defence.

Im pretty sure that after half a season (barring injury) three things will make Vick the better fantasy performer:

1. Familarity with the offense. (A new scheme + how little he played in pre season didnt help)

2. A realization by Atlanta coaching that you have the fastest QB in the league...let him run occasionaly please.

3. Vicks confidence in himself returns after being knocked around by the injury and change in schemes.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Margalis on September 15, 2004, 08:47:45 PM
I hate it when coaches come in with a "system" and try to bend the players to it, rather than creating a system that's good for the players. In Vick's case, he apparently is not the fastest learner in the world to begin with.

Brady threw the deep ball well in the first game. IMO that was always something he lacked. Here in Boston that was the word on him for a while, he just couldn't complete the deep pass. But he seems to have gotten better in that regard. For his first year here he mostly threw 5-8 yarders. I would expect with a real running game it will open up downfield more as well. I expect the Pats offense to be a lot more effective overall this year.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on September 15, 2004, 09:40:24 PM
I think the Roosters should trade me Terrell Owens so I can see what McNabb/Owens duo could get me in points this year.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on September 16, 2004, 07:30:27 AM
He's available for the low, low price of Priest and Gonzalez.  And during crazy Gallo's Rosh Hoshana MEGASALE, all trades get the Buffalo Bills defense thrown in FREE OF CHARGE!  No money down!  0% Interest until 2006!

Of course, we could discuss serious trades as well.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 16, 2004, 09:20:26 AM
Quote
He's available for the low, low price of Priest and Gonzalez.


What, you don't want a kidney too? He was asking for Terrell Owens, not Joe Montana and Jim Brown...


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on September 16, 2004, 10:13:18 AM
Nah.  But I was thinking about naming rights on his next child.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on September 16, 2004, 07:43:07 PM
First name or middle name?


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on September 17, 2004, 07:30:40 AM
First.  Or middle + you bringing back your old avatar.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on September 17, 2004, 12:19:50 PM
WTS STEVEN DAVIS CHEAP PST!!!!!111!


I'm so fucked.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on September 18, 2004, 04:05:41 PM
Quote from: El Gallo
First.  Or middle + you bringing back your old avatar.


DEAL! Do I have to name the kid first, or you'll just send Owens my way on my good word?

edit: The "boss" says no deal, apparently I'm not allowed to barter any part of the name of any future kid away in fantasy football deals.

What a gyp.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on September 20, 2004, 09:23:50 AM
WOULD EVERYONE ON MY TEAM PLEASE STOP BREAKING THEIR FIBULAS?

Winslow gone for likely most of his rookie season now.  Ohh well, it's not like Garcia had a fucking clue of what to do with him anyways. "Hey Winslow's wide open again, I'll throw another deep bomb because I like completing less passes than a Baltimore QB!"

Fucking underachieving schmucks this week.  Everyone but Peyton and Curtis Martin should hang their heads in SHAME.

I'll consider it a blessing if I win one or two this year. I've gone from mediocre to shit heap in no time.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on September 20, 2004, 09:40:31 AM
Apparantly, Jeff Garcia is so upset about his current beard getting into a fight with his ex-beard that he turned in this stat line for the ages: 8/27, 71 yds, 0 TD, 3 INT.

For those of you at home, that's a whopping 0.24 fantasy points.


FIRST TO WORST BABY!!!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Shockeye on September 20, 2004, 09:50:52 AM
Quote from: Rasix
I'll consider it a blessing if I win one or two this year. I've gone from mediocre to shit heap in no time.

At least you have injuries to explain your position on the shit heap. My players have decided to be shitty all-around. Plaxico needs to be taken out and shot along with Old Yeller, Hasselbeck can't seem to throw touchdowns if his life depended on it, and Portis can't seem to keep the ball in his fucking hands this year. If anyone would like a good example of how not to put together a fantasy team, please puruse my line-up.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on September 20, 2004, 10:01:46 AM
I'm scratching out a decent win this week, provided Philly doesn't throw any touchdowns to their TE. But riddle me this, Batman. How the fuck does Michael Vick score twice as many points against St. Louis than Tom Brady does against fucking ARIZONA? I mean, two picks against the fucking Cardinals? WHA WHA WHAAAAAAAAA?

And the great pass catching tight end Dallas Clark has managed all of 1 catch this season. Thanks, BUH-BYE!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Shockeye on September 20, 2004, 10:06:14 AM
Even if Donovan throws a couple touchdowns to his TE, I'd still need a couple extra long yardage throws to that TE to even have a chance at beating them Kilt Wavers. I think I'm down what... 14 points right now? When I can't even beat Haemish's team, I know I'm in the shitter. At least I'm alive in survival football for another week and I pity you people that picked GB over CHI. I expected GB to have a huge game over CHI and Favre was embrassed left and right.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Shockeye on September 20, 2004, 10:07:54 AM
Shit, even Haemish's flying Gramatica brother did better than my kicker. Fuck a duck.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on September 20, 2004, 10:08:47 AM
PH3@R MY TWIN KICKING BALL OF DOOM.

And let's face it, it ain't like Tampa is going to score any other way.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Shannow on September 20, 2004, 10:09:21 AM
Quote from: HaemishM
I'm scratching out a decent win this week, provided Philly doesn't throw any touchdowns to their TE. But riddle me this, Batman. How the fuck does Michael Vick score twice as many points against St. Louis than Tom Brady does against fucking ARIZONA? I mean, two picks against the fucking Cardinals? WHA WHA WHAAAAAAAAA?



Well one was a endzone hail mary right at the end of the first half.

The Patriots were playing their usual gameplan 'Do our best to make the game as interesting as possible in the second half even though we should be crushing them by 4 TDs'. Its remarkable how often they do this.

All part of the Kraft family master plan, Superbowls AND interesting games to watch on TV.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Zetleft on September 20, 2004, 10:25:03 AM
After last weeks showing of 44 total fantasy points I thought I was in for a long season.  Made a nice turn around this week, it seems as long as I have Tomlinson and Roy Williams I'm guaranteed a few wins at least, just hope I see no more -8 point games from the dallas D.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Murgos on September 20, 2004, 12:29:58 PM
Considering that I have three starting players who combined for a total of 10 points (Duece McCallister actually had NEGATIVE 2 points!) I'm doing pretty good to just even have a chance of winning this week.

Here's to hoping Brian Westbrook gets held to less than a hundred yards and 0 td's by the Vikings.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: UD_Delt on September 21, 2004, 06:16:31 AM
FYI....

Anyone with any Browns player on their team is in trouble. The Browns are just about done this year. They've lost Courtney Brown and Winslow for the year. Tucker (O-line) and Gerard Warren are out 2-4 weeks. Zukauskus (O-line) has a sprained ankle but will play. McCutcheon (D-back) has a broken finger but may play. The guys who are out are being replaced by either already injured players or players coming off of injuries.

Don't look for any kind of numbers out of Garcia or Green. I can't imagine anyone holding any Browns receivers any way so no worries there.

I fucking hate living in Cleveland....


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on September 21, 2004, 08:12:11 AM
SQUEAK OUT TEH WIN!

Once I heard L.J. Smith got a TD, I thought I was sunk, but somehow, I win by 3 points. With the Pats being off next week, I may not have such good luck. But then, Vick is playing against the Cardinals so hopefully he runs for 4 TD's and passes for 6 more.

It could happen.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Shockeye on September 21, 2004, 08:43:20 AM
I am in the cellar. Stick a fork in me.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Shannow on September 21, 2004, 08:44:57 AM
Quote from: Shockeye
I am in the cellar. Stick a fork in me.


SirBruce wants to spoon you, that do?


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Soukyan on September 21, 2004, 10:03:44 AM
Quote from: Shannow
Quote from: Shockeye
I am in the cellar. Stick a fork in me.


SirBruce wants to spoon you, that do?


HAR!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Shockeye on September 21, 2004, 12:22:48 PM
Quote from: Shannow
SirBruce wants to spoon you, that do?

At least it's not Boog...


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on September 23, 2004, 04:01:23 PM
Clearly the game of the week is the BATTLE FOR THE BASEMENT!  I think that Jeff Garcia can pull it out for me.  I just know he won't break my heart again...

11  Roosters          0-2-0 .000 176.52 L-2  
12  The Groin Pulls 0-2-0 .000 157.02 L-2


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Shockeye on September 23, 2004, 04:31:40 PM
I dunno, I have a feeling Plaxico will have another big game for me with 0 or 1 catch and hopefully for negative yardage.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on September 23, 2004, 04:36:09 PM
Anyone want to bet money on which one of my players breaks his fibula this week?  I've got 5 bucks on Fred Taylor.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Shockeye on September 23, 2004, 04:50:15 PM
Fitzgerald could break something. The Cardinals haven't looked as bad as everyone thought they would. They need something else to happen in order to make a run at 0-16.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on September 24, 2004, 08:03:18 AM
Fred Taylor will likely sprain his labia this week, while I'm sure Larry Fitzgerald will be run over by a raging bull that escapes onto the field while trying to flee a matador.

OLE!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Shockeye on September 24, 2004, 11:09:10 AM
Quote from: HaemishM
Fred Taylor will likely sprain his labia this week


Maybe then he can go in for some genital landscaping.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on September 27, 2004, 09:37:09 AM
I won (provided Keyshawn doesn't fumble 10 times), and no one broke their fibula.  Thank god for good waver wire pickups.  It's going to be painful actually having to bench Stecker next week,  but it's harder to bench Taylor v. Indie run D and C-Mart v. anyone at the moment.

My kingdom for a #1 wideout.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on September 27, 2004, 10:03:35 AM
Well, my least favorite trend in H2H fantasy football continued this week- another team had its high score of the year the week they played me. Fuck I hate H2H. Who was the dumbfuck who set this league up, anyway?

I bet I have a top 5 scoring team at the end of the year, but will be lucky to make the playoffs. My GM does a great job, but apparently my coach can't gameplan for shit.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on September 27, 2004, 01:17:21 PM
THANK YOU, JAVON MOTHERFUCKING WALKER! 3 fucking touchdowns, who knew?! Did anyone watch this game? How many fucking times did they have to see Reggie Wayne burn that rookie Horton before they realized, "Hey, this rook cannot fucking cover this guy." I understand McKenzie sprained HIS labia and didn't play, but shit, put someone with some fucking speed and cover skills on Wayne. Wayne just ate that D up. And why exactly is it that the Packers brand new D Coordinator thought that blitzing Peyton Manning was a good idea? No, no it wasn't. It was fucking stupid. The only way to stop Manning is either 1) cover the fucking receivers, which they weren't doing, or 2) DON'T GIVE HIM THE FUCKING BALL. But no, Mike Sherman has to go out there trying to show that he can run a pass-happy offense just as well as the Colts. Only he can't, because besides Walker, none of the Packer wideouts are really the same caliber as even Reggie Wayne. Why not run the fucking football A LOT, control the goddamn clock, then air it out. FUCK YOU, MIKE SHERMAN.

The Patriots are about the only team that can win a shootout with the Colts this year.

And what the fuck is wrong with Michael Vick? You can't even throw or run for a touchdown against the FUCKING CARDINALS? AND YOU FUMBLE TWICE!?! SHIT!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on September 27, 2004, 01:44:36 PM
If there's one thing we learned with that Packers/Colts game, it's that the Colts have a horrid, horrid defense.  A couple of those Javon Walker receptions were just criminal he was so wide open.  If Sherman and his coaching staff had any sort of brain, they would have given that defense an Ahman Green enema.  Only when they attempted to mix in some runs, did they disrupt Manning's rhythm.  If they would have done that from the start, I find it highly unlikely that Manning would have exploded like that.  

Not that I mind, and I'm glad he (Manning) slowed down some in the second half.  I'd like to save a 500 yard, 7 touch down performance for when I really need it :) Attempting to run James a lot in the second half really brought their offense to a screetching halt.

And God, Vick was horrid. The man has zero touch. It was really pathetic watching him and his teammates blow chance after chance against the Cards. If it hadn't been for a few breaks of their own, they easily could have lost to the worst team in the NFL.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Dark Vengeance on September 27, 2004, 01:52:38 PM
By the way, Haemish, how did picking up Roy Williams work out for you yesterday in the Corpnews league? I understand he had 9 catches for 135 yards and 2 TDs. :)

Actually, I have some sympathy, because I had Reggie Wayne on the bench...Plaxico made a decent contribution, but I got under 2.5 total points out of my starting tandem of Derrick Mason and Peerless Price.

Speaking of Atlanta, it looks like you should have started Tom Brady at QB....he would have given you a better week. Then again, Joey Harrington would a better start yesterday than Aaron Brooks.

So it all comes down to Clinton Portis vs the Cowboys Defense.

And yknow what this has taught me? FANTASY FOOTBALL IS FUCKIN HARD, AND NEITHER ONE OF US ARE GOOD AT IT.

Bring the noise.
Cheers.............


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on September 27, 2004, 02:03:33 PM
Well, Jamal Lewis finally woke up for me, and barring an unprecedented Clinton Portis explosion tonight, the Roosters will finally be back in the W column.

However, this Jeff Garcia thing is no longer funny.  He and Leftwich are just God awful horrible.  I picked up Kurt Warner from the free agent pool; hopefully he will continue to show some signs of life.  

Now I just need to get Steven Davis healthy, hope that several of you suffer debilitating injuries, and the Roosters will be on the way to the repeat!  Or .500.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on September 27, 2004, 02:22:52 PM
Quote from: Dark Vengeance
By the way, Haemish, how did picking up Roy Williams work out for you yesterday in the Corpnews league? I understand he had 9 catches for 135 yards and 2 TDs. :)


He has been a stud, and I unfortunately have not used him enough. And of course next week is his bye.

And how badly do the St. Louis Rams suck ass? I had to watch their game with the Saints and frankly, neither team is worth a damn. Even better, instead of seeing the Falcons/Panthers game next week, I'll probably have to watch the goddamn Saints play Arizona. Fuck you very much, regional network NFL coverage. Also, fuck you very much Fox and the NFL for making me watch the Saints/Rams overtime and missing the first 4 touchdowns of the Colts/Packers game.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on September 27, 2004, 02:49:30 PM
Quote from: HaemishM

And how badly do the St. Louis Rams suck ass? I had to watch their game with the Saints and frankly, neither team is worth a damn. Even better, instead of seeing the Falcons/Panthers game next week, I'll probably have to watch the goddamn Saints play Arizona. Fuck you very much, regional network NFL coverage. Also, fuck you very much Fox and the NFL for making me watch the Saints/Rams overtime and missing the first 4 touchdowns of the Colts/Packers game.


Is this where I add how much I love my NFL Sunday Ticket?


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on September 27, 2004, 02:53:20 PM
Quote from: murdoc


Is this where I add how much I love my NFL Sunday Ticket?


Die. I had to watch that damn Cardinal's game. Nothing like watching two inept offenses fumble their way to victory.

At least I got to see the start of the Colt/Packers game. CBS only covered one game this week here and it was the frickin' Chargers/Broncos game... bleh.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Murgos on September 27, 2004, 03:13:50 PM
Quote from: El Gallo
I picked up Kurt Warner from the free agent pool; hopefully he will continue to show some signs of life.

Good luck with that.  You do realize that that was the first game he's won in 3 years right?


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on September 27, 2004, 04:59:15 PM
Quote from: Murgos
You do realize that that was the first game he's won in 3 years right?


You do realize that a quarterback has put up a 0.00 passer rating in an NFL game only 2 times since 1976, and one of those was my starter, Jeff Garcia, last week!  My #2 guy is on a 3-0 team that is somehow averaging 12 points a game!  I am a desperate man.  Hell, I picked up Rothleswhateverburger too.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on September 28, 2004, 08:21:13 AM
I'm in 4 football leagues, and managed to get a win in 3 out of 4 leagues! WOOT!

Of course, the 4th was CorpNews Part Deux, and I lost by 1 FUCKING POINT! Eddie George, though art almost useless. I swear if Dallas had stopped Portis from gaining like 20 yards, I'd have won that game. Did anyone watch MNF? That was an example of two teams trying to outsorry each other. Half the time Portis looked like he didn't know what hole to run into. Lavernus Coles had to huge drops, clock management was a cluster fuck and the Cowboys seem determined to use Eddie George like the Steelers used Jerome Bettis in the first game. I finally had to stop watching the game and play some City of Heroes.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Dark Vengeance on September 28, 2004, 08:25:02 AM
Quote from: HaemishM
Of course, the 4th was CorpNews Part Deux, and I lost by 1 FUCKING POINT! Eddie George, though art almost useless. I swear if Dallas had stopped Portis from gaining like 20 yards, I'd have won that game.


When Witten scored a TD, and Portis couldn't find his way into the endzone, I thought I was a goner for sure.....but then your vaunted Cowboys defense gave up a garbage TD drive in the waning minutes.

Result: THE ROBOT CHENEYS REIGN SUPREME.

Bring the noise.
Cheers.............


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Paelos on September 28, 2004, 09:36:14 AM
I have Coles in my league and I was screaming at him in the first quarter. They threw to him every time on one series and he dropped or missed all three balls. I was furious also when he couldn't get in the end zone and it cost Washington the TD on the goal line fiasco of trying to run Portis in twice. They are lucky that tipped ball on 3rd down wasn't picked and taken yard the other way.

All in all the game was a nailbiter for the contest of who could stop sucking long enough to win. Dallas going into a shell would have worked if they would realize that everybody and their mothers expects an up the gut run on first down. Here's an idea, do a hitch pass or a screen early and catch the D off guard you braindead playmonkeys. And the challenges, dear lord! Gibbs probably did the worst job of clock management not only in the first half but the second as well. It looked like the seniors tour on the sidelines.

That being said the game had its moments. The toss to the halfback for the strike throw into the endzone trick play was gold. That was the winning play and it deserved to be. Also, the Ron Gardner show at the end of the game was a thing of beauty. He was playing his ass off just to keep his guys in the game, even if he couldn't get out of bounds at the end.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on September 28, 2004, 09:55:52 AM
Ah excellent, I have assumed my position at the top.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on September 28, 2004, 10:01:48 AM
I still can't believe that not only did Terry Glenn NOT get called for offensive pass interference on that first Dallas scoring drive, but he managed to get them to call defensive interference on the Skins DB. I mean, what fucking game were the refs watching? Call the penalty right, the Redskins win the game.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Paelos on September 28, 2004, 11:06:16 AM
That's the way the Cowboys-Redskins games go. Even if the Boys are the weaker team, they always win. Need I remind anyone of the 1989 season where they went 1-15?

Where was the one win again? Oh that's right, in Washington. That loss cost them the playoffs that season under Gibbs, finishing 10-6.

In 1991 the Skins won the Super Bowl, and opened with 11 straight wins, but guess who broke that streak? That's right, America's Team.

By hook, crook, or flat out-playing them, the Cowboys own the Redskins on any turf.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Soukyan on September 28, 2004, 11:10:37 AM
Quote from: murdoc
Ah excellent, I have assumed my position at the top.

You won't be there long. Enjoy it while it lasts. ;)


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Shannow on September 29, 2004, 09:36:07 AM
Quote from: HaemishM
I still can't believe that not only did Terry Glenn NOT get called for offensive pass interference on that first Dallas scoring drive, but he managed to get them to call defensive interference on the Skins DB. I mean, what fucking game were the refs watching? Call the penalty right, the Redskins win the game.


You are watching the 'Oh we have to make the whiny Peyton Mannings of the world happy' game of NFL football where no one is allowed to even breath on a receiver the wrong way otherwise Peyton will cry some more. And we know how the NFL loves to bend over for those Manning boys. And he still couldn't beat the Patriots cause of his stupid 'liquored up' kicker, haha.
uurrrm, sorry back on topic...


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on September 29, 2004, 10:01:23 AM
To be fair to the Peyton Mannings, not only were the New England DB's ALL OVER the Colts receivers in the championship game last year, but the botched call in Monday night's game was REALLY FUCKING BAD. I mean, Glenn even goes so far as to grab the DB's jersey and pull, for Chrissakes. Strangely enough, the DB starts tripping up and trips into the receiver and he gets called for pass interference.

The refs have made a great show of saying they'll call more pass interferences, but I'd rather they just got the fucking calls right.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Shmtur on September 29, 2004, 12:22:38 PM
I'd agree. Correct calls are more important than calling every tiny kinda-sorta infraction.

As for how scoring and passing stats have gone down...have they taken a look at the state of the league lately?  I mean hell, the Packers last year had 3 separate 5 yard-per-carry rushers.

Why throw the ball when you can get production like that?


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Zetleft on September 30, 2004, 06:11:15 AM
Yeah it was a bad call but that db did more than trip and fall he grabbed and pulled down on Terry Glenn's shoulder on his way down.  Of course he was on his way down because he was being shoved in the back but that's besides the point in my eyes :)


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on October 01, 2004, 02:35:10 PM
Rematch of last years WaterBowl coming up this weekend.  Sadly, ADS and I are battling in the basement rather than the penthouse.  Nonetheless, I look forward to KICKING NATTY BOH ASS again.

I have a great fear of Deshaun Foster rolling up quite a few yards though.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Soukyan on October 04, 2004, 05:22:23 AM
Jeezus. Glad to see my team showed up this week.

*note to self - never question the marking of questionable... they don't mess around with that one*

Bah!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Dark Vengeance on October 04, 2004, 07:47:41 AM
Over in the CorpNews league, Haemish had WayAbvPar beaten even before NFL Prime Time started.

Myself, I am down by like 2 points with Tony Gonzalez left....my opponent has Matt Stover at K, and Kevan Johnson at WR. It's going to be a close one again.

Faulk had a good game, but didn't score. Portis had a TD, but also lost a fumble. Aaron Brooks lost a fumble and didn't ever score. Plaxico was a non-factor yet again. Reggie Wayne went from hero to zero. Pittsburgh's defense, Derrick Mason, and Olindo Mare kept me close.

My big more though was picking up Anquan Boldin out of free agency. Reports are that he may look to come back as soon as week 7. If he can regain his rookie form for even 5-6 games, it's the steal of the season. Even if not, it's only one roster spot....and that's not such a big deal, as by this time next week, I'll be able to drop my backup TE and stick with Tony the rest of the way.

Bring the noise.
Cheers.............


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 04, 2004, 09:08:39 AM
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Over in the CorpNews league, Haemish had WayAbvPar beaten even before NFL Prime Time started.


Haemish pwned me in the F13 league too. This was a perfect week to catch me, since my top two picks were on bye (due to the vagaries of the Yahoo draft system, I ended up with Culpepper and Moss on 3 (!!!) different teams). Picking up Kerry Collins just in time for him to shit the bed vs Houston was a brilliant move on my part as well.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on October 04, 2004, 09:28:47 AM
Well, looks like I have the opportunity to knock off a top dog in the league once again.  I just hope Morton can out pace Matt Stover.  Although with the way my kicker put up points this week, I wouldn't bet on it (I have a feeling karma will catch up with me).   Kind of an aweful week for both teams.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on October 04, 2004, 09:56:59 AM
Again, I win 3 out of 4 league games this week. The only one I lost was CorpNews part 1, and that by only 4 points, which I could pick up tonight provided Eric Warfield of KC's D does something of note. Which means, probably not likely.

Reggie Wayne is one of those awesome one week, neglible the next week. What happens is he has a game like he had against the Pack, then gets his ass double-teamed the next week. Wayne and Harrison were constantly double-teamed by the Jags, which opened up Brandon Stokely to catch like 8-9 balls, as well as give Marcus Pollard a seam for a TD Pass.

Tom Brady is my QB in all 4 leagues, and let me tell you, he is MONEY. Marvin Harrison is money. The only downside I have in the F13 league is RB. Staley is just not going to score touchdowns this year, and Rudi Johnson has only had one good game this year, that being yesterday. Also Tennessee's D FUCKING SUCKS. Shame on you for letting Drew FUCKING Brees eat you alive. I watched part of that game and just shook my head. Brees looked great, Tomlinson looked great. The Titans looked like deer in headlights.

New Orleans Saints, go home. You are chokers, plain and simple. They have no excuse for not being a good team, and they just aren't a good team. I watched most of the Cardinals-Saints game and that was a case of two teams trying to outsorry each other. Emmet Smith OWNED the Saints D. While Emmet is still a good back, he shouldn't be able to do that with a Cardinals passing attack that lacks Boldin. Fitzgerald needs another good receiver to take the heat off him and they don't have it. Cards D looks decent though.

Packers... oh my Packers, you're killing me. I knew Mike Sherman couldn't recruit good defensive players. Now it seems like he can't run the fucking offense either. In a game that was 0-0 into the 3rd quarter, how can Ahman Green only have 58 yards. WTF? I know they lost Flanagan for the season, but holy shit. Green Bay would be much better off without Mike Sherman. Get some fucking D Linemen that can stop the run... oh wait, you did, only he got hurt and you had no backups. Great job.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Murgos on October 04, 2004, 03:40:51 PM
Well my starters seriously underperformed this week.  No TD's from Faulk, 8 points from Farve, crap from Wayne.  My one bright spot was Shockey.  With the way the F13 point system is skewed towards recievers I don't see how I have a chance tonight, I think Rasix will have this one locked up by half time.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on October 04, 2004, 03:53:51 PM
Both teams tried to underperform each other it seems (3pt, Jags D.. wtf).  Of course, Curtis Martin was dynamite again.  This guy is easily my early season MVP.  Peyton was steady, which is all I can ask for him against a good D.

I hope Morton can at least grab 4-5 balls (Green doesn't remember sometimes that he has targets other than Priest and Tony).  But really, if Baltimore has trouble getting into the end zone, I can see Stover pulling this one out.  Plus, it's not unheard of for recievers to just disappear. The game has me uneasy, but any win for me is just a bonus.  Injuries plus Fred Taylor basically being an early season bust has put me in an uncomfortable position.  I really hate having to do another season with no consistant TE play.  

If your team produced decently though, I'd have been toast. I'm afraid I'm going to have to catch teams on their off days.  Trying to survive without decent recieving and TE play in this league is just impossible.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 04, 2004, 04:03:34 PM
The interesting part about the league focus on WR and TE play is that there are A LOT MORE WRs and TEs than there are productive RBs, and there are always a dozen or so that emerge during the year. I like that better than everyone drafting RBs in the first 3 rounds and hoping that the guys who had earlier position have bad luck with injuries.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on October 04, 2004, 04:25:38 PM
Well, the flip side of that  is that tight end and wide reciever play can be highly eratic and hard to predict.  When you lose your top reciever, both tight ends, and have one reciever come out to being a huge flop, you're fucked.  Of course, I'd likely be fucked in any situation, but this one doubly so.

You're underestimating just how many of these guys are gobbled up too.  With the heavy focus on WRs, just about every team's one and two man has been drafted.  Maybe some guys will emerge, but it's likely that they'll just end up being another David Terrell (HEY NICE GAME AFTER I DUMPED YOU).

Bleh, this probably wouldn't have been an issue if I would have attended the draft live.  2 fucking kickers and 2 Ds.  Goddamnit.

Edit: Yes, I am a steaming pile of bitter right now.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on October 04, 2004, 04:37:00 PM
Also, PAGING DR. GLAMDRING.  Half your team was on a bye this week.  Please do not turn into this season's Pottsvile Maroons (no offense Souykan).

If you don't feel like playing anymore, I'll take Boo Williams, Sean Alexander, and Tory Holt off your hands.  You can have the Amazing Eddie George, Ben Troupe and Jonny Morton in trade!!!! Shit, I'll even throw in Fred Taylor.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Soukyan on October 05, 2004, 04:44:16 AM
Quote from: Rasix
Also, PAGING DR. GLAMDRING.  Half your team was on a bye this week.  Please do not turn into this season's Pottsvile Maroons (no offense Souykan).


None taken. Hell, I'm trying to squeeze out some wins now. I came blasting out of the gates and stalled at the 3rd furlong. Damn gimp players...


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Dark Vengeance on October 05, 2004, 06:23:04 AM
Tony Gonzalez is fucking lucky he is on a bye next week. If he pulled this shit 2 weeks in a row, I'd have to pistol whip his ass.

Gonzalez not only found himself outperformed by Shockey, which is bad enough....he found himself outperformed by MATT FUCKING STOVER....he found himself outperformed by ARRON FRICKIN BROOKS.

2.1 points?? Kiss my fuckin ass, you no TD catching, Dick Vermeil loving, in last place behind the Chargers, 1-3 piece of shit. If you weren't far and away the best TE in football, I'd drop you like a one night stand at dawn.

Bring the noise.
Cheers.............


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on October 05, 2004, 08:09:15 AM
Is it just me, or am I the only one finding that getting a good, fantasy-production RB almost impossible? I mean, Staley's ok, but Bettis is just about beating him out for points with less than 25 yards rushing, all because he's the one scoring TD's. And the waiver wire is a joke for RB's. Most of the FA RB's only have points because of the 1 and only TD they'll get this year. The only consistent RB's I can think of are James, Martin, Holmes, Green and Lewis (though neither have been spectacular), and Tomlinson. Stephen Davis and Shaun Alexander being hurt does diminish the pool a bit. But shit, I've offered a trade for Emmit Smith, for chrissake.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on October 05, 2004, 09:23:02 AM
Back to .500 with a wide-open passing attack featuring T.O. and Moulds.  Unfortunately, next week I will have to go without my main stud T.O. who is pretty much the only reason I am not 0-4 right now.  Hopefully Steven Davis will be back and perform decently for me.

Then again, I face the hard-luck Liver, which means I should win by 3 points with my highest score of the season, like everyone else has done against those poor slobs :)


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on October 05, 2004, 03:23:06 PM
Wow, nice performance from Morton.  I'm really not sure why Green doesn't look his way more and I'm not just saying this as a biased ff owner.  He really outplayed Chris McCalister all night.

Next week v. Haem should be an interesting matchup considering he'll have Foster instead of Rudi.  Although really, Rudi has better long term fantasy value as Foster is benchmeat once Davis is healthy (if he ever gets healthy).  I'd look for a close game with both teams above 100.  Of course, solid WR play for him could spell the difference although I'd argue he's got tougher matchups.

Week after I catch a Rooster's team with Jamal and others on a bye but Peyton will also be sitting out.. uggggg.

Interesting season so far.  This week the two undefeateds get to do battle.  Edge goes to the Koalas who due to murdoc getting killed by the Chiefs and Eagles on a bye.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on October 06, 2004, 07:39:03 AM
Yeah, my byes are gonna kill me this week. I'll need a whole lotta luck to pull out the win.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on October 06, 2004, 09:20:23 AM
I don't think Foster will be as bad a choice as you think. I really believe Davis will be a bust this year, mainly due to nagging injuries. When he's out, Foster is gold. Plus, I still have Staley, who has been a pretty consistent runner; he's just not scoring TD's.

Rudi Johnson has been a huge disappointment to me.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on October 08, 2004, 02:12:11 PM
Well, my team just got jacked up by The Man, they suspended my stud for the Oct 24th & 31st games.  I wonder if I'll ever get to see Lewis & Davis making sweet, sweet love for me again.
 
Screw the drug war.
   FREE JAMAL!!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 11, 2004, 08:37:19 AM
Goddamn it Haemish! Why damn must you always play me when I have my top players on bye? This week it was Priest Holmes and Owens in the old Corp league.

I hope I get a chance to hand you your ass in the playoffs somewhere!

/feebly shakes fist


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on October 11, 2004, 09:20:14 AM
I need Javon Walker not to have a massive night and I win again!  I have no faith in McNair actually using Ben Troupe despite the guy being their only healthy tightend and being some people's top ranked TE in the draft.  

Having a winning record with the goons I have will actually bring a smile to my face.  Ohh and.. tough break with Foster, Haem.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Dark Vengeance on October 11, 2004, 09:34:22 AM
I have been owned in both Corp leagues this week by the dreaded QB/WR combo.....2 matches in 2 leagues decided by 2 combos from 1 game.

In Corpnews 1, I ran smack into the combo of David Carr and Andre Johnson. I normally wouldn't even sneeze at this one, but after Sunday's shootout, the completions, receptions, yardage, and TDs gave my opponent a whopping 80+ points.

In Corpnews 2, I went up against the starting combo of Culpepper and Moss, which between TDs and yardage, gave my opponent a whopping 56 points.

It wasn't too long ago that I was lit up by someone that had both McNabb and Owens. I need to rethink my fantasy strategy next year.

When your 4 best WRs consist of Peerless Price, Hines Ward, Derrick Mason, and Anquan Boldin (Week 8 can't get here soon enough), getting the QB/WR combo just doesn't seem all that appealing.

Bring the noise.
Cheers..............


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 11, 2004, 09:52:38 AM
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Ben Troupe despite the guy being their only healthy tightend and being some people's top ranked TE in the draft


Other than his immediate family, I can't imagine who might have him rated as the best TE. Maybe as a sleeper, but I can think of 5 or 6 guys off the top of my head that are no brainer picks before him. After them, it is pretty much a crapshoot.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on October 11, 2004, 09:55:06 AM
Quote from: Rasix
I need Javon Walker not to have a massive night and I win again!  I have no faith in McNair actually using Ben Troupe despite the guy being their only healthy tightend and being some people's top ranked TE in the draft.  

Having a winning record with the goons I have will actually bring a smile to my face.  Ohh and.. tough break with Foster, Haem.


Walker is going to have a big night, I think. Hell, he really only needs about 4 or 5 receptions, 90-100 yards and a TD for me to win. Troupe won't get shit /crosses fingers/.

I'm much more on the cusp of losing games or barely winning games this week. Most of the "sure things" I thought this week would have didn't pan out. Tampa Bay won (Saints REALLY REALLY SUCK), the Giants fucking won (and damnit, I had Tiki Barber on the fucking bench in Corp 2), Tom Brady only completed 7 damn passes but at least 2 were TD's.

Funny thing is if Javon Walker has a good night, I probably win in the f13 league, but lose in the Corp 1 league. Shit.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 11, 2004, 09:59:01 AM
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Funny thing is if Javon Walker has a good night, I probably win in the f13 league, but lose in the Corp 1 league. Shit.


Heh. Been there. Multiple teams can do that, but it is worth it for all the entertainment value I derive from otherwise meaningless games.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Dark Vengeance on October 11, 2004, 09:59:22 AM
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Ben Troupe despite the guy being their only healthy tightend and being some people's top ranked TE in the draft


Other than his immediate family, I can't imagine who might have him rated as the best TE. Maybe as a sleeper, but I can think of 5 or 6 guys off the top of my head that are no brainer picks before him. After them, it is pretty much a crapshoot.


I think he meant the 2004 NFL draft...not the fantasy draft. I don't think he was the best TE there either. He's not as good as KW2, but I'd rather have Troupe on my team than Winslow any day of the week.

Bring the noise.
Cheers..............


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Zetleft on October 11, 2004, 10:02:41 AM
Quote from: Dark Vengeance

In Corpnews 1, I ran smack into the combo of David Carr and Andre Johnson. I normally wouldn't even sneeze at this one, but after Sunday's shootout, the completions, receptions, yardage, and TDs gave my opponent a whopping 80+ points.


You can thank the injury prone McNair for Carr being my starter this week.  Although A. Johnson burned my team in the Morlock league this week too.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on October 11, 2004, 10:02:44 AM
Quote from: WayAbvPar
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Ben Troupe despite the guy being their only healthy tightend and being some people's top ranked TE in the draft


Other than his immediate family, I can't imagine who might have him rated as the best TE. Maybe as a sleeper, but I can think of 5 or 6 guys off the top of my head that are no brainer picks before him. After them, it is pretty much a crapshoot.


Eh, I followed the draft pretty heavily.  For most of the pre-draft it was neck and neck who was a better choice between him and Winslow, but who the hell would draft the no name pudge rather than the charismatic, fibula-of-steel Winslow.  Troupe's stock seemed to slip at the end, to the point where I think he was the 3rd TE drafted overall.  (Of course, I could be thinking of Ben Watson, but I'm pretty sure I remember it being Troupe from Florida)  Funny how no real rookie TE this year has stood out, but a lot of premier TEs have emerged (YET NONE I OWNED).

Anyhow, on another tanget, I was thinking of writing up a little weekly recap after Monday night.  Might be fun to break down what happened and what could have been.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 11, 2004, 10:06:12 AM
Ok, that makes more sense if you are talking about the rookie draft (as opposed to the fantasy draft). I think Winslow gets the nod for his pedigree, but just a slight one.

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Anyhow, on another tanget, I was thinking of writing up a little weekly recap after Monday night.



I am too fucking depressed after watching the Seahawks crap the bed in the 4th quarter yesterday to care enough to write a recap (fantasy or otherwise). I am just numb. Goddamn I hate Mike Martz...the guy looks like a chicken-thieving weasel with his wee beady eyes.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Dark Vengeance on October 11, 2004, 10:12:54 AM
Quote from: Rasix
Troupe's stock seemed to slip at the end, to the point where I think he was the 3rd TE drafted overall.  (Of course, I could be thinking of Ben Watson, but I'm pretty sure I remember it being Troupe from Florida)


IIRC, Winslow went #6 to Cleveland (They traded up with Detroit for the #7 and a 2nd rounder...which were used on Roy Williams and Teddy Lehman, respectively. Smooth move Cleveland!), Watson went #32 to New England, and Troupe went something like #35 to the Titans.

So far, Winslow and Watson have had some significant injury troubles, and The Titans passing game just hasn't been very productive at all.

Bring the noise.
Cheers.............


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on October 11, 2004, 11:01:52 AM
Well, it ended up not mattering because Jamal Lewis went out with a whimper last night, but here's a big F.U. to Steven Davis for saying from Thursday through Sunday morning that he was going to play yesterday and then not playing.  FU, Steve.  FU.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on October 11, 2004, 09:25:51 PM
Looks like I'm going to lose this one in garbage time.

Damnit.

Edit: NICE FUCKING TOUCHDOWN, TWAN.  How about you just run out the clock, assholes. GRRRRR.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on October 12, 2004, 09:06:32 AM
Well, 2-2 in leagues this week. What a fucking shitty week for football.

Let me just say this now. I hate you, Mike Sherman. I blame every single Packers loss this season squarely on your head. This team has the potential to be a contender every year, and yet you have somehow managed to take this storied franchise and turn them into a team that just scrapes by. You do not have any fucking concept of how to recruit a good defense. You just don't. The linebackers are decent, KGB and Darren Sharper are both excellent players. Your corners are fucking tools. Your linemen... tools. And useless tools at that. What's the problem? It isn't like these defensive problems haven't been building for years. Grady Jackson was a great pickup, but where's the depth? None. Nada, zip. McKenzie is gone, and the rookies you have behind them look like they don't even know what they are supposed to do on a football field. Without KGB, you have no pass rush, and without Jackson, you can't stuff the run. I saw 8 men in the box last night, and every one of them either got blocked out or juked out of their shorts. Are you so obessed with offense that you've just neglected the D altogether, a la Steve Spurrier?

That game last night was fucking painful to watch. Ahman Green can't get more than 3 yards in the first half? Shit, he could barely make it to the line of scrimmage. The Pack couldn't tackle ANYBODY. If the Pack don't make the playoffs or worse, don't have a winning record, Sherman should be gone. He has no one to blame but himself, IMO. The problem last year wasn't the D coordinator as much as it was the D. Fucking prick.

Also, move Javon Walker up in the depth chart past Robert Ferguson AND Donald Driver. It's obvious he should be the go-to guy.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Paelos on October 12, 2004, 09:10:14 AM
I've never seen Lambeau so empty on TV before the game was even OVER. Sherman should be lynched because of the way the defense played. One person on your team makes a bad error, and that's not the coaches fault. One of the lower teir teams in the league setting records for points against you in your own house? That's a coaching issue.

The Pack needs to dig up Lombardi and parade him around on strings.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on October 12, 2004, 09:25:09 AM
Well, could have been 3rd, but instead I get be 8th!  HOORAY FOR GARBAGE TIME.  Oh well, at least I lost by a solid 10.  Javon Walker is a fucking talent (except that he can't play defense on errant Favre passes worth a damn).   Still, if I would have made decent decisions on my replacement kicker (I had Brien penciled in before I decided on Mare, BRAIN FART), hadn't believed the crap about Meier actually not going to start, and hadn't misplaced my faith in McNair knowing how to throw to a TE that's not Erron Kinney at the 1 yard line, I could have won.  Eating 2 zeros is just bad for business.  

Ahh well, next week.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Soukyan on October 12, 2004, 10:29:17 AM
Quote from: Rasix
Well, could have been 3rd, but instead I get be 8th!  HOORAY FOR GARBAGE TIME.  Oh well, at least I lost by a solid 10.  Javon Walker is a fucking talent (except that he can't play defense on errant Favre passes worth a damn).   Still, if I would have made decent decisions on my replacement kicker (I had Brien penciled in before I decided on Mare, BRAIN FART), hadn't believed the crap about Meier actually not going to start, and hadn't misplaced my faith in McNair knowing how to throw to a TE that's not Erron Kinney at the 1 yard line, I could have won.  Eating 2 zeros is just bad for business.  

Ahh well, next week.


Glad to see you picked up Mare. I unloaded him because his team was scoring touchdowns and he was doing shit for me scoring. I picked up the Brownies kicker. He produces some decent points every week as long as his team keeps choking in the red zone.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on October 12, 2004, 10:40:21 AM
Akers was on a bye.  Seriously though, I just made a boneheaded decision.  You don't pick up a kicker on a team as bad as Miami even with field goals being the pinnacle of their offensive achievement and expect bad things not to happen.  The douche got hurt during warmups..

I had the Brien all the way to clicking the final "add this player" button and for some reason jumped to Mare.  STUPID STUPID STUPID.  Well, at least I've got Akers until the end of the year.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on October 12, 2004, 01:36:29 PM
Man, I wasn't paying attention to bye weeks on draft day.  Half my damn team is off this week.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on October 12, 2004, 01:48:59 PM
Yah, but you're starting what counts for the big points this year: QB and your starting WR's. I'll be missing Peyton.  I'll miss him like a leg.  

If I could arrange it, I'd draft players that all had a bye on the same week.  That way I could just count on losing one game really badly and not the ticky-tack losses each week.   I'll be looking heavily into getting Peyton/Marvin, Donovan/Terrel or Dante/Randy next year.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on October 12, 2004, 02:54:44 PM
In one of my leagues, I think Corp2, I have Harrison, Reggie Wayne and Edgerrin James, not to mention Larry Fitzgerald and Emmet Smith. Lo and behold, Arizona and the Colts have the same bye week.

Fuckers.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on October 18, 2004, 02:53:25 PM
Finally, a MNF game that I don't have to cringe while watching.  Rattay put together a decent game in relief of my stud, Manning.  Solid RB play again and yet another touchdown from Keyshawn.  My team doesn't total suck sometimes.  Players on a bye hurt the Roosters some. He got a nice performance out of Leftwich though.

Couple of games to be decided by tonight's game.  As long as the St. Louis WRs don't stink up the house, we'll have 2 0-6 teams and the Koalas need a big game out of Bulger in order to remain undefeated.  

Haem needs a big game out of KEN DILGER.  Good luck on that one.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on October 18, 2004, 03:16:14 PM
Yeah, I needed TO to catch a TD or two.  Watching the steelers drop 2 interceptions, one that would have been a TD, in the last few minutes of their game was not pleasant for me.  However, my lack of depth bit me in the ass, since I had to start Davis vs the Eagles and actually used two Raiders.

FREE JAMAL!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on October 18, 2004, 03:20:22 PM
My Raider did OK. It's sad when that's been some of my best TE production of the year.

I was worried early on when I checked Morton's numbers.  I just didn't think the Jags would give him all of those grabs, especially when Kennison back.  

Hey, if you need a RB, I have a certain Bronco that would like to get off the sidelines :)


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on October 18, 2004, 06:17:01 PM
I did not expect Fred Taylor to be such a stud for you.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Soukyan on October 18, 2004, 06:32:43 PM
Quote from: Rasix
Haem needs a big game out of KEN DILGER.  Good luck on that one.


Please god no. After the lousy points I put up this week (thanks Ben Rothlisbastard for not throwing to Ward EVER!), I can use the win. ;)


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on October 18, 2004, 07:29:27 PM
Quote from: El Gallo
I did not expect Fred Taylor to be such a stud for you.


Neither did I with the way he's played this year.  Guy racks up 1500 yards/year and I don't think he's had a hundred yard game yet. But lately he's been getting some decent yards through the air.  

Still, I had higher hopes from him.  But, hey, 22 points, good job buddy.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on October 19, 2004, 03:07:30 AM
Ricky Williams picked up? heh


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Dark Vengeance on October 19, 2004, 03:42:32 AM
I knocked off two undefeated teams this week in the corpnews leagues.

In Corpnews 1, Holt's 2 TD performance was enough to cement a win vs the Vince Van Pattens. Garcia finally put together a decent week, and I won despite starting the killer RB combo of Quentin Griffin (I didn't get the memo) and The Bus.

In Corpnews 2, I knocked off Slog, after Faulk and Bulger came through...although I must admit that Bulger's 1 fumble, 1 INT performance kept in doubt until about 11:30pm.

The Lions screwed the pooch against the Pack, but all the playmakers were hurt (5yds from Jones, no Williams). Apparently God wants us to win with Az Hakim as our top WR. GB had something to prove, so I had a nasty feeling it could get away from us. Fans here are reacting as if we are 0-5, but after going 3-1 I think most forgot the predictions of 8-8, and started thinking playoffs.

Bring the noise.
Cheers.............


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on October 19, 2004, 12:34:13 PM
Fucking Packers. Finally get off the goddamn snide and it's against my Detroit Defense. Thanks for that zero fucking points, asshats.

Ken Dilger did ok for a TE, but a win was not to be. The byes really hurt me in all the leagues.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Dark Vengeance on October 19, 2004, 12:39:07 PM
BTW, Haemish, what do you need for Torry Holt in Corpnews 2???

Bring the noise.
Cheers.............


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on October 19, 2004, 12:58:49 PM
Your very soul.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Jamiko on October 19, 2004, 01:04:15 PM
Well, I knew my undefeated record wouldn't last all year. I sort of figured I'd lose this weekend with Edge and Tiki on byes.

It was fun while it lasted...


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on October 20, 2004, 02:48:44 PM
Looks like I may have given up on Antonio Bryant too early, he got traded to a team that may actually throw to him. Then again, that team is the Browns, so I won't lose much sleep over it.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on October 20, 2004, 02:53:12 PM
You actually think Jeff Garcia will throw to him anymore than he was throwing to Morgan or anyone else on that team? One has to have blocking to throw a pass.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on October 24, 2004, 06:23:06 PM
McNabb + Holmes = a pretty damn good week for me so far.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on October 24, 2004, 06:48:24 PM
Uggg, I think I should have gone for another player in my trade (I'm way too goddamn accomodating).  I don't think Peyton even looked at Wayne more than the two times he threw to him.  Here's a hint Peyton: he's not the white guy.  At least I've got a lot of depth now at WR, a single injury shouldn't hurt me much at all and Boldin should be ready to go in a week or two.

Ohh well, I don't think I'd even start Droughns beyond matchups just because I already have two, steady productive RBs.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on October 25, 2004, 07:24:54 AM
Well, I had by biggest point output of the season and still only barely beat a team that was playing two bye-week players.  Go Roosters.  I really need The Man to get off Jamal, and I need Steven Davis to stop being such a wuss.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Soukyan on October 25, 2004, 08:13:45 AM
Quote from: El Gallo
Well, I had by biggest point output of the season and still only barely beat a team that was playing two bye-week players.  Go Roosters.  I really need The Man to get off Jamal, and I need Steven Davis to stop being such a wuss.


Yeah. I literally had nobody to use in place of my Bye week wideouts. I figured I'd give it a shot with 0 points from both. Even with my one really shitty backup, I still would have lost by ~10 points. I just couldn't make the bench space for the lousy wide receivers that were available. Bleh. I probably blew my whole season with the decision...


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on October 25, 2004, 08:31:47 AM
That jillion points the Ravens D came up with almost carried you through anyway.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 25, 2004, 09:21:27 AM
Fuck me to tears. I had one of the worst hangovers of my life yesterday, and then I had to watch the goddamned Seahawks tapdance all over their dicks in Az. That was as pathetic a display of 'football' as I have seen in a while. I am blaming Jerry Rice.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on October 25, 2004, 01:15:12 PM
At least you got to see a decent matchup. Fuck, I had to watch Atlanta get their shit pushed in for 4 quarters against KC, or watch Steve McNair's sucking chest wound. THEN, just for added insult, the Saints/Raiders game came on, and was a better game than both of them. It's just painful to watch fucking Aaron Brooks receivers just drop everything for 2 quarters. And to top it all off, ESPN had no night time game. Fuck you very much.

I'm hoping both Droughns and Chad Johnson blow it tonight, or I could be sunk. If Droughns has his normal game, I'm fucked in the f13 pool.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on November 01, 2004, 08:17:08 AM
Well, I am in for a nailbiter against Murg tonight, 5.7 point lead but he has a WR tonight against the lowly (but respectable pass-defending) Dolphins.  Funny that we both made pretty big lineup mistakes with him getting very little from Farve while Brees racked up a jillion points on his bench, while I got nothing from Byron L and little from the Bolts D with Roethlisberger and the Steelers D sitting on mine.

Is Steven Davis ever coming back?


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on November 01, 2004, 08:42:27 AM
Interesting week.  Bad news for my team, as it looks like the curse of Fred Taylor is renewing itself.  Fucking fragile bastard.

Here's the 1 minute wrapup of the weeks pre MNF:

Nose Pickers  (me) 124.38
McNair's Inebriates (glamdring) 57.00  
 
Not a hard win when your opponent forgets half his team is on a bye.  Bench points wouldn't have mattered anyhow.  Curtis Martin gets to pad the score tonight.
 

Dean Martin's Liver  (wayabvpar) vs 65.24
The Murdoc Bandwagon 133.86  

The bandwagon rolls on while the liver takes a beating. No Randy Moss and subpar Dante hurt. 2 scores left to be decided by MNF won't matter.  
 

Pottsville Maroons (soukyan) vs 107.90  
DrunksOnGrass (zetlef) 73.76  

A bad AZ defense and underperforming hurt the Drunks.  Soukyan runs away with this one.
 
 
Murg's Maulers (murgos, duh) vs 76.06  
Roosters (El Gallo) 81.78  
 
This one is still in progress. Can McCareins make up the points after Murg leaves 43 points out of Drew Brees on the bench (how did this guy all of the sudden learn how to play, he couldn't throw a fucking slant last year. A SLANT!!! My 6 year old nephew already has that throw down)? Roosters get hurt by shitty performances from Lord Byron and Fitzgerald (a whole lot of Steeler's points on that bench too).
 
 
Kilt Wavers (haemish) vs 82.64  
Killer Koalas (who is this again?) 155.76  
 
Haem leaves 60 odd points on the bench (wouldn't have mattered) and gets fucking creamed.  Goddamn Tiki Barber, WHY THE HELL DIDN'T I PICK THIS GUY? Ohh yah, I forgot that everyone said big Ron Dayne was coming back. Fuck, I'll fall for anything.  Of course, Plummer and Rod Smith's mutant performances helped some.  

Fucking Koalas, this guy has Alge Crumpler riding the bench. THE BENCH. GRRRR.  With him in they would have scored near 170. Jeeeebus.
 
 
The Groin Pulls (shockeye) vs 83.44
Natty Bohs (arc) 111.66  

Battle for the basement ends with the following conclusion:  Shockeye sucks more. Didn't help that Dillon didn't play and Graham did nothing (risk you take with NE TEs). Shockeye leaves a decent amount of points on the bench.
 
 
Best case scenario (murg loses) I'm in 3rd.  Worst, I'm in 4th.  Good enough.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Jamiko on November 01, 2004, 09:05:18 AM
Quote from: Rasix
Killer Koalas (who is this again?) 155.76


That'd be me. Nobody really.

Quote from: Rasix
Fucking Koalas, this guy has Alge Crumpler riding the bench. THE BENCH. GRRRR. With him in they would have scored near 170. Jeeeebus.


Yeah I screwed up this week. Johnson has been dominating but on a spiral lately. I won't let that happen again.

Quote from: Rasix
Goddamn Tiki Barber, WHY THE HELL DIDN'T I PICK THIS GUY?


I love that guy. He's 2 players in one. MVP all the way.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Shockeye on November 01, 2004, 11:57:03 AM
Quote from: Rasix
The Groin Pulls (shockeye) vs 83.44
Natty Bohs (arc) 111.66  

Battle for the basement ends with the following conclusion:  Shockeye sucks more. Didn't help that Dillon didn't play and Graham did nothing (risk you take with NE TEs). Shockeye leaves a decent amount of points on the bench.

Let's see, I have no faith in Plaxico since he shit on me for the first 4 weeks and benching Dillon the day of the game fucked me over nicely or else I would've played my NE WR in the WR/RB spot and I would've won by 2 points instead of losing by 28. I am low man on the scrotum pole and I'm about to throw in the towel. At this point my only hope is to win survival football.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on November 01, 2004, 12:09:20 PM
Quote from: Shockeye
At this point my only hope is to win survival football.


Goddamn Colts.

Edit: Feel free to start giving away Plaxico or Smith.  Really, you can have Eddie George or the gimp child Tim Rattay in trade.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on November 01, 2004, 12:38:46 PM
Fuck me, but the football yesterday rolled over me like a fucking Mack truck. Just about every game went the exact opposite of how I thought it should. I mean, New England and Tom Brady just absolutely shit the bed. The Colts lay an egg. Minnesota bit it big time. I think the only games I picked right were the Pack, the Eagles and the Seahawks. Luckily, it appears I'm 3 out of 4 in leagues, only losing the f13 league. I'm fading fast.

How was I to know Muhammed would finally catch a ball? Or that Vick and the Falcons would learn what the endzone looked like against Denver? Amazingly enough, the one big gamble I took (starting Kevin Jones over Duce Staley at RB) turned out to be a positive, since Jones caught a TD pass and Staley didn't score.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Murgos on November 01, 2004, 07:45:11 PM
Quote from: Rasix
Best case scenario (murg loses) I'm in 3rd.  Worst, I'm in 4th.  Good enough.


I r weener.  Joo luz!

P.S. How you like Reggie Wayne this week?


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on November 02, 2004, 08:43:48 AM
Quote from: Murgos


P.S. How you like Reggie Wayne this week?


Good. The man has great points potential when Manning realizes he's on the team.  He just tends to disappear at times when Manning gets zero'd in on Stokely.  I think one of my other two options (you gave) would have been a better choice, but then again, you might not have agreed to the trade.

Of course, Droughns might be needed soon here with Fragile Fred getting hurt and Lamont Jordan doing well in garbage time for the Jets.  If Edwards turns that situation into a running back-by-comittee, he's the biggest idiot on the planet.  But I have faith that the Jets aren't stupid enough to think a 1-2 punch actually works except when one guy needs a breather or you're up by 20.

Next week's going to be rough. I'll score decent but I think Murdoc will just blow me out of the water.  150-120 is the likely score.  Another 3 scores for Priest combined with big days for some of the soft matchups (except for McNabb v. Pit) will make this one painful.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: MrHat on November 02, 2004, 08:57:47 AM
Bah, I woke up late last Sunday and forgot to sub out McNair and Westbrook.

And I still only lost by 3 points.  Wtf.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on November 02, 2004, 10:02:56 AM
I think I'm through my bye weeks now for the most part with a minimal amount of damage.

It'll be nice being able to field my full team this week.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on November 08, 2004, 09:43:18 AM
Nose Pickers vs 36.70 Match
The Murdoc Bandwagon 100.92  

Well, I'm getting creamed.  Apparently no one on my team knows where the end zone is.  Being on the recieving end of some spectacular blowouts isn't a good way to score points.  Murdoc gets hurt by crappy McNabb and non existant Stallworth.  An amazing Gonzo game and a OMG WTF game from Vinateri helped. Both left a good reciever performances on the bench.  

Monday Night decides this one.  Can Peyton, Reggie Wayne and Jerome Wiggins put up 65 combined points? I'm guessing no and I record my lowest point total of the season because everyone deciding to be an underachiever on the same week hurts.  
 
Dean Martin's Liver vs 47.70
The Groin Pulls 97.60  
 
Byes hurt Way badly.  Starting unspectacular players won't get you a win (trust me, I know).  Shockeye leaves a decent amount of points on the bench and gets a goose egg from Graham.  

Still, if Culpepper doesn't break 50 points. He's got a win.  
 
 
Pottsville Maroons vs 100.24
McNair's Inebriates 102.72  

Will the players that don't even look at their rosters all week please stand up?  Jesus Christ.  If neither of you want Dominick Davis or Willis McGahee, let me know.  Both players fail to manage byes and injuries well and thus leave major points on the bench.

Glamdring pulls this one off unless Marcus Robinson suits up and manages to post negative yards and fumble mutliple times.   Soukyan got hurt by subpar AJ and Chad P performances.
 
Murg's Maulers vs 133.28
DrunksOnGrass 80.04  
 
SCARY LINEUP ALERT.  The Maulers.. well.. maul; even with Joe Horn performing like a Raider's wideout.   Drunks have some points to bring come Monday, but will lose this one handily.  Underperforming Garcia and gimpy boy wonder Roy Williams hurts the Drunks.
 
Kilt Wavers vs 96.06
Roosters 85.62  
 
Roosters still hope that Stephen Davis will magically ungimp himself. Fitz or Sammie Morris would have been a better fit, being able bodied and all.   Staley being out hurts Haem some.  

Can Marcus Pollard score 11 points? That's a bet I would never, ever touch.  
 
Natty Bohs 102.16
Killer Koalas 92.20  
 
Koalas leave some major points on the bench while Arc leaves just a little.  Tiki Barber and Treen Green (took him long enough) continue to be fantasy monsters.  

So, the equation for Monday night is... if Marvin Harrison + 9.blah point cushion > Nate Burleson + Edge.  I'd like to see arc pull this one out.. but I think the Koalas win via Burleson being one of the few able bodied Minnesota WRs and Edge running against the football equivalent of paper mache.

Edit: Yep, lot of points on the bench for Haem.  Tough calls though.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on November 08, 2004, 10:10:54 AM
Injuries and bye's fucked me. Had I known Staley would not start, I'd have had Bettis, who would have at least given me points. Same goes for Jackson, who I didn't think would start, and ends up with 2 TD's. Still, Pollard likely won't get enough to hand me a loss.

And thank you very much, Vinny Testeverde and the Cincy Bengals D. 3 INT's, 2 fumbles and a handy 28 points were my top performers!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Jamiko on November 08, 2004, 10:23:38 AM
Quote from: Rasix
Koalas leave some major points on the bench while Arc leaves just a little.


Damn that Santana Moss. He was supposed to be a top 10 WR and he has been worthless. I finally give up on him and he decides to produce. I hope Edge has a monster night, for more reasons than my ffl team. The Vikings deserve another good beating.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Soukyan on November 08, 2004, 10:45:57 AM
Quote from: HaemishM
Injuries and bye's fucked me. Had I known Staley would not start, I'd have had Bettis, who would have at least given me points. Same goes for Jackson, who I didn't think would start, and ends up with 2 TD's. Still, Pollard likely won't get enough to hand me a loss.

And thank you very much, Vinny Testeverde and the Cincy Bengals D. 3 INT's, 2 fumbles and a handy 28 points were my top performers!


Some points? Bettis racked up 149(?) yards in that game.

Yes, I was looking at my roster during the week and was getting ready to adjust it when I was interrupted at work and never got back to making the changes. I had a wonderful "oh fuck!" moment yesterday while listening to the Steelers game when I realized I had left two byes in my starting lineup. Moral of the story? Don't make roster changes at work.

There go my hopes for a post-season, too. *sigh* Fuck.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on November 08, 2004, 11:02:48 AM
Quote from: Soukyan

There go my hopes for a post-season, too. *sigh* Fuck.


Not terribly.  If I some how pull off a victory, I'm in 4th alone with the two cellar dwellers (I'll lose to at least 1) coming up, which would hurt your chances.  If I lose (the likely outcome), we're in likely a three way tie for 4th with me ahead on points, but without any sort of commanding lead (except on Haem).  If Way pulls his game out, then it's a 4 way tie for 4th with Way in the lead.

Of course, if Haem loses, just subtract Haem from the above paragraph :)

5 games to go though, and the battle for 4th will be a tough one.  After playing the dung heap, I have to retread through the Liver, Koalas, and Maroons.  I think I get to play for the consolation prize again this year. A 3-2 record in those might be enough to squeeze in though.

Edit: Heh, looks like our week 14 matchup might be of fair importance.

Edit #2: Looks like your season took another blow: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/football/nfl/11/08/bc.fbn.jets.pennington.ap/index.html


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on November 08, 2004, 12:31:45 PM
Quote from: HaemishM
Injuries and bye's fucked me. Had I known Staley would not start, I'd have had Bettis, who would have at least given me points. Same goes for Jackson, who I didn't think would start, and ends up with 2 TD's. Still, Pollard likely won't get enough to hand me a loss.


To be fair, I started Steven Davis because he once again said he would play and didn't, so I got zero in that slot instead of the 20+ Larry Fitzgerald racked up.  But, fool me twice and all that.

Unless Pollard comes through for me, it looks like I will be penning my concession speech this week.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Shannow on November 08, 2004, 12:40:43 PM
Quote from: Rasix
and a OMG WTF game from Vinateri helped.


heh heh. Best TD ever.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Soukyan on November 08, 2004, 12:51:29 PM
Quote from: Rasix

Edit: Heh, looks like our week 14 matchup might be of fair importance.

Edit #2: Looks like your season took another blow: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/football/nfl/11/08/bc.fbn.jets.pennington.ap/index.html


Yes and yes. The big guy upstairs really likes me... really...


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on November 08, 2004, 01:06:36 PM
Shit, Pennington goes down and Quincy Carter is the Jets QB. So much for a Super Bowl run.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Shannow on November 08, 2004, 01:15:28 PM
heh, on another note anyone else watching TO begin the slow path to self destruction in Philly?


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: sidereal on November 08, 2004, 02:10:18 PM
Not in-league, but just so you can share my pain, I need Marvin Harrison to stay under 14 points tonight for me to take 1st in my league.  I can absorb 1 touchdown and 79 yards.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Dark Vengeance on November 08, 2004, 02:36:51 PM
Quote from: sidereal
Not in-league, but just so you can share my pain, I need Marvin Harrison to stay under 14 points tonight for me to take 1st in my league.  I can absorb 1 touchdown and 79 yards.


Same for me in Corpnews 2. Only it's Reggie Wayne, and I can absorb a maximum of 119 yards and 1 TD.

If I lose, it'll be 2 weeks straight I've lost with the 2nd highest score in that league.

Bring the noise.
Cheers............


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on November 09, 2004, 01:16:22 AM
In this week's episode of As f13 Turns, Marcus Pollard guest stars in the role of Haemish's daddy,


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Soukyan on November 09, 2004, 05:20:43 AM
Quote from: Rasix

Can Marcus Pollard score 11 points? That's a bet I would never, ever touch.  
 


Remind me to bet against you next time. ;)


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on November 09, 2004, 08:17:03 AM
Quote from: Soukyan
Quote from: Rasix

Can Marcus Pollard score 11 points? That's a bet I would never, ever touch.  
 


Remind me to bet against you next time. ;)


Heh, when I said wouldn't touch, I meant exactly that.  It's really hard to predict how a TE like Pollard will play.  He likely won't get a lot of catches, but he's likely to get red zone opportunities.  

I came up 5 points short.  If Manning just hadn't forgotten that Wayne was on the team in the second half like he usually does, I could have gotten it.  Feast or famine players can be extremely frustrating.  Indications early on  were that Wayne would have a big game.. but nooooo..  

The problem with having Colt offensive players other than Peyton or Edge is that there's just too many weapons and it's really easy for one player to get overlooked or lost in the shuffle.  At times Peyton just seems to zero in on a player or the offense sees a weakness and just exploits the hell out of it.  Happened with Wayne v. Greenbay, Stokely at times this year, and TEs in the red zone in this game. Ohh well, valiant effort if a bit short.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on November 09, 2004, 08:52:13 AM
Quote from: El Gallo
In this week's episode of As f13 Turns, Marcus Pollard guest stars in the role of Haemish's daddy,


Marcus, you goatfucking bitch. I start you a few weeks ago, you go down with an injury. I need you to lay down like a good little tight end, you score two TD's.

WHAT... THE... FUCK.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on November 09, 2004, 09:24:47 PM
Not too often when your kicker PASSES FOR VICTORY. I lucked out this week as the abnormal score that Vinateri put up was the only reason I won.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on November 15, 2004, 09:41:55 AM
f13 league: Week 10 (pre MNF)

Nose Pickers 127.80    
The Groin Pulls 95.90    

Shockeye puts forth a decent performance but it's just not enough.  Lack of QB performance and offensive touchdowns offsets what was a decent amount of yardage gained all around.  

With 2 scores for me left to be decided at MNF, this one is over. Stat padding time!  Great performances by Peyton, Taylor, and Martin were enough to clinch this one early.  

Neither player left significant points on the bench.

Dean Martin's Liver 110.42    
Natty Bohs 42.74    
   
Way showed he can be a two man show even without Randy Moss! Culpepper the king of catchup put up gaudy numbers once again.  A crappy performance out of everyone else but his kicker (and defense to a point) nets a win.   I kick myself for not picking up Burleson when I could.  It's good to play an absentee doormat when you've got bye-city.  

Arc has arguably the worst team in the league and it showed (injuries haven't helped).  Hope nothing bad IRL is keeping him from managing his team (and posting here).


Pottsville Maroons 65.10        
The Murdoc Bandwagon 110.90    

Souk fails to address a couple holes in his lineup and leaves a decent amount of points on the bench (expected points though).  Murdoc gets another crazy number from Vinateri and everyone but the waste-of-human-DNA Stallworth produces.

McNabb's performance on Monday night will cushion this one a bit more.  If you look closely though, you can see the holes in the armor.  This team is beatable.  
   
Murg's Maulers 135.14     
McNair's Inebriates 91.36    
   
The Lineup-of-Doom once again destroys.  Solid performances out of everyone including eye poppers from Favre and Horn pave the way for the  Maulers.   Relatively poor play from glam's WRs and the late inactivation of Jones doomed him.

Again, nobody left anything significant on the bench.


Kilt Wavers 124.52
DrunksOnGrass 72.10    

Haem.. creaming someone? WHAAAA HAPPEN?  Muhsin Mohammed went JIHAD on the Niners.  Solid play out of The Bus, Brady and Walker helped. The Drunks get very little out of definitely-not-gay Garcia and wunderkid Williams.  Witten will try, but ultimately fail to score 52 points on MNF.  This is unless, Jesus really really hates Haem.

Ohhh, and... Zetlef leaves 56 points on the bench. /crotchkick
   
Roosters 75.76
Killer Koalas 110.98    

Isn't it nice when your reciever catches 1 ball for 2 yards?  Having to rely on the Arizona passing offense is INSANITY.   Gallo leaves some small, yet important points on the bench while his recievers are on the end of some unspectacular quarterbacking.

Koalas again are steady as a damn rock.  Mason, Barber and Crumpler forge the way while everyone else except Steve Christie comes out to play.  

So, can TO outscore the Philly defense by 36 points tonight? Ehh.. not likely, but it would be funny to see the Roosters pull off another MNF miracle.


Overall, not a very dramatic week.  MNF football is really just a game this week unless you plan on watching it with one eye towards the heavens. Solo fourth place is mine!  Managing my recieving corps is giving me fucking ulcers though.  I love having no clear cut #1 guy on my entire team.

No more byes from here on out.  Best foot forward from here on.  At least that will eradicate about 50% of the apathetic roster mismanagement.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on November 15, 2004, 09:57:49 AM
Quote from: Rasix
Kilt Wavers 124.52
DrunksOnGrass 72.10    

Haem.. creaming someone? WHAAAA HAPPEN?  Muhsin Mohammed went JIHAD on the Niners.  Solid play out of The Bus, Brady and Walker helped. The Drunks get very little out of definitely-not-gay Garcia and wunderkid Williams.  Witten will try, but ultimately fail to score 52 points on MNF.  This is unless, Jesus really really hates Haem.


JIHAD!!!!! is screamed as the wheels on the bus go round and round. Fuck yeah.

It looks like I will win every game this week in all 4 leagues. It was a week without really any surprises for me; almost every game went like I thought it would except for the Seahawks laying an egg. How bad are the 49ers that they can't even beat a Panthers team with NO RUNNING BACKS? Pathetic. The Bears surprised me, but not by much. I expected A-Train to get something off of the Titans, and I expected KC to steamroll New Orleans. I hate the Saints; there is absolutely no way to know which team will show up this week.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on November 15, 2004, 10:10:49 AM
Fat lady is singing for the Roosters.  I felt that my boys would be fired up with a chance to get back into playoff contention against the #1 team in the league, who came out a little flat.  Instead, every single player on my roster lays an egg.  Roethlisberger with 7 points, WTF THROW DEEP TO PLEXIGLASS AGAINST THE BROWNS, Moulds with 9, OK he was playing against NE, Pollard with 3, WTF, Fitzgerald with the BIG ONE FUCKING POINT I DON'T CARE WHO YOUR QB IS THAT SUCKS-YOU WERE A TOP 3 DRAFT PICK.  Disgraceful.  Hell, my high spot was Jamal Lewis pulling down 12.  The truly depressing thing is that I had no worthwhile bench performers.  At least the Steelers D came through.

I had high hopes for this team, but I just could not survive Jamal Lewis posting poor numbers when he wasn't being suspended and Steven Davis taking the season off because he is a giant wuss.

I still have faith that the Eagles win 77-70, with TO pulling down 11 TD's, and the Eagles D putting up big negative points for the KK's.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on November 15, 2004, 12:21:45 PM
Ray Lewis on Terrell Owens (http://www.sportspickle.com/features/2004-1110-lewis.html)

GodDAMN that is a funny website. Do yourself a favor and read some of the archives. It is basically The Onion does sports. Good stuff.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on November 15, 2004, 12:29:22 PM
From that site:

Quote
November 10, 1991 – Bernie Kosar of the Cleveland Browns ends his NFL record of 308 passes without an interception. However, Kosar’s career-long streak of not being able to elude a single pass rush continued.


Pure genius.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on November 15, 2004, 04:18:18 PM
<3 the weekly wrap-ups, Rasix.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on November 16, 2004, 07:27:52 AM
T.O.'s monster game last night just made that loss so much more painful.  If Roethlisberger and Fitz had put up even halfway decent numbers, that was a very winnable game.  C'est la vie.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on November 16, 2004, 08:06:28 AM
Quote from: Rasix


McNabb's performance on Monday night will cushion this one a bit more.  If you look closely though, you can see the holes in the armor.  This team is beatable.  
   


And did it cushion... nice monster games from McNabb, Owens and Witten there.   Of course, now I look like a total boob for saying the above.  Have I mentioned lately how much I dislike Adam Vinateri?

Here's a helpful fantasy hint for everyone.  If you've got a wide reciever playing against the Cowboys, START THEM.  That's one of the worst looking secondaries I've ever seen.  They make Indy look like Baltimore.

Edit: Except this week, they play Baltimore.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on November 22, 2004, 08:20:06 AM
What the hell is taking Yahoo so long to post the scores?  If it's showing up for anyone, PM me a copy/paste of the scores, please.

Edit: Scores up. Write up to come.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: MrHat on November 22, 2004, 08:38:11 AM
Quote from: Rasix
Quote from: Rasix


McNabb's performance on Monday night will cushion this one a bit more.  If you look closely though, you can see the holes in the armor.  This team is beatable.  
   


And did it cushion... nice monster games from McNabb, Owens and Witten there.   Of course, now I look like a total boob for saying the above.  Have I mentioned lately how much I dislike Adam Vinateri?

Here's a helpful fantasy hint for everyone.  If you've got a wide reciever playing against the Cowboys, START THEM.  That's one of the worst looking secondaries I've ever seen.  They make Indy look like Baltimore.

Edit: Except this week, they play Baltimore.


I've taken to drafting players who play against SF.  Worked pretty well for me so far.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Murgos on November 22, 2004, 09:49:57 AM
I dont believe I scored 126 points yesterday and I'm probalby going to lose to the bandwagon tonight.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on November 22, 2004, 10:12:19 AM
I made a monstrously good choice picking Indy's Defense back up this week. 32 points... YIPEEE KAI YAAY MOTHERFUCKER! Of course, against Chicago's O, that was a no-brainer. Even without Brady and Patten, I got this game sewn up, unless the Pats D can have a game like the Colts D did. Against KC, probably not.

Koalas got owned. If Murdoc's 3 KC players and Vinatieri can't pull of 42 points, it'll be a 3-way tie for first place.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on November 22, 2004, 10:41:10 AM
Nose Pickers  133.74    
Natty Bohs     79.00    

Thank you, Peyton, you are a rock. Thank you Reggie Wayne, you are still an enigma.  While I can't seem to win in a consistant manner, I roll on.  Well, unless Trent Green somehow throws around 6-7 touchdowns(well, NE's secondary is pretty horrible) and manages to keep Jonnie Morton out of the action.  This week, the running backs take a week off and Fred Taylor still doesn't know where the endzone is.  The monster fantasy player that is Jermaine Wiggins once again waddles to victory.  

Arc gets a ginomormous game from Westbrook and a good showing by the Denver D. However, when you've got a two deadweights bringing your team down (Conway, Mangum), it's hard to win.  Not a bad game out of Harrison either, but his star seems to be fading a bit (Peyton just has too many weapons).  

No team leaves sizable points on the bench.


Dean Martin's Liver  139.82
Killer Koalas             110.56    

The improbably asskickers light it up again.  Big games out of Driver, Chambers, Burleson, and a business as usual game for Culpepper pave the way with most other scores being pretty solid.  I dislike this team being at my heels.   The points potential once Moss comes back will be even scarier.

Koalas get steady, yet unspectacular play out everyone except Edge who made the esteemed Bears defense look like a bunch of Ivy leaguers trying to shut down a Big 12 rushing attack. Lack of offensive touchdowns really hurt the Koalas.  Relying on weak or erratic passing games may cause some problems later for the Koalas.

Koalas leave Alge's big game on the bench.  Not enough to make a difference, however.  

Pottsville Maroons  87.90
The Groin Pulls      41.36    

While this may look like a done deal, there's still a lot of football left to be played.  Can Givens, Graham, and Dillon make up the points. Probably, this is afterall the KC defense.  Shockeye gets nothing from studs Portis and Smith.  Bad offensive systems hurt fantasy owners.

Soukyan really needs to just get a quarterback to plug in some points. Anyone starting would have likely put this one a little farther out.  Bad games from Ward and Green (geeeemp) didn't help much.  Gates is a damn pimp.  

The possibly worst starting running back in the league, Davis,  rests on the bench with a big chunk of points: 22.  I'm not sure who's a worse pure runner, him or Barlow.  Both guys make Eddie George look like LT. McCardell's 16 rot in lala land for Shockeye.

Murg's Maulers                  126.52    
The Murdoc Bandwagon    85.68    
   
It's going to be rough watching MNF football for the Maulers.  While they put together a solid 126 points behind Droughns (I miss you buddy), McAllister the pass catching fiend, and steady games from everyone except the kicking and defense, it's not going to be enough.

The Bandwagon still has the core of the Chief's offense to come including points monsters Blaylock and Gonzales.  Lets not forget offensive juggernaut Adam Vinateri.  Big games from McNabb and Tampa Bay D pace the Bandwagon to this point.

Some small point upgrades left on the bench for the Maulers could have helped.

Kilt Wavers             108.80    
McNair's Inebriates  84.78    

This one's a done deal.  Patten and Brady plus 16 points will outpace NE's defense with ease. JIHAD, Indy's D (WTF) and solid play just about everywhere else propel Haem towards victory.

Holt had a good game for glamdring, but no one else did anything spectacular.  Marcus Robinson is useless.  Way to not Carpe Diem. Burleson will likely be the second target behind Moss once he returns.

Vick's points will likely go to waste, but not much else would have helped either team.  Nose Candy Robinson would have likely put up better numbers than "I'm not as good as people think I am" Robinson, but alas, he said yes to drugs.  Small TE improvement left on the bench for the Inebriates.
   

Roosters            81.72    
DrunksOnGrass    102.52    

It's somewhat sad when Michael Pittman is your main man.  Jamal "OUCH IT HURTS" Lewis, didn't do much. Neither did, Eric "Drew Bledsoe is my QB" Moulds.   TO didn't explode and Super Rookie really isn't a fantasy QB despite his winning ways.  Murphy's Law in full glory.

The Drunks don't exactly rock the house either.  23 combined point from Not Gay, Roy Williams, Witten (Baltimore hurts), and Grandfather Smith, didn't help.  Big games out of LT, Buffalo's D, and a solid game out of Lelie did.

Both players leave points on the bench.  Fitz's 22 were big, but not enough to turn the tide.  


Interesting week.  Defenses were big in many situations.  Two teams are going to cringe watching MNF football as their Ws turn into Ls (probably, don't quote me here).   Two teams I wanted to lose, both win big.  The race for spot 4 is on.   Sorry this took so long, I'm still getting used to tabbed browsing.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on November 22, 2004, 11:26:55 AM
When I heard that the Bills scored 37 and the Ravens put up 30, I thought I was set with Moulds and Jamal.  Whoops.  It was nice of Larry Fitzgerald to finally produce some quality points the week I give up on his sorry ass and bench him.  But really, Jamal Lewis and Steven Davis jacked my season.  Everything else is just a rounding error.

Nothing like losing to the QB you cut a few weeks ago to really remind you that you have royally fucked up a fantasy football season.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: shiznitz on November 22, 2004, 12:02:17 PM
I am 5-5 with the second highest point total in a 16 team head to head league. Sucks.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on November 22, 2004, 12:03:28 PM
Figures, I finally bench Stallworth and he explodes. It won't surprise me if keeping him on the bench makes the difference between a win and a loss this week.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on November 22, 2004, 12:06:40 PM
Ohh yah, I missed that one.  Funny, one week after I call him a waste.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on November 22, 2004, 12:13:47 PM
The entire New Orleans Saints team is a waste. None of them produce consistent enough touchdowns to be worth anything.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on November 23, 2004, 01:36:19 PM
Whew. Glad I picked up Kennison this week!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on November 23, 2004, 01:43:42 PM
Bleh, fuck Kennison, he's stealing touchdowns from Morton.

I feel sorry for anyone that owns a Patriot reciever that isn't named Deion Branch.   Poor Givens and Patten are pretty much meat from now on.  (watch one of them explode next week now that I said that)

If I lose to Way next week, and I probably will, we have a 3 way tie for 4th.  4 way if Haem managed to pull off an upset.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on November 23, 2004, 01:45:27 PM
Shit, if my ass beats Murdoc next week, I should be crowned champion.

BTW, I'm #1 at 10-1 in the Morlocks League. BOO-YAH!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on November 23, 2004, 02:00:17 PM
Vick and Walker could have potentially good games next week for you Haem.

Also, I'm heading to Seattle for the Seahawks vs. Bills game so I will have to have my  team set by Friday and I have the feeling the Chiefs aren't gonna say if Priest is in or out until after I have to finalise my rooster, which could help you quite a bit.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on November 23, 2004, 03:07:23 PM
Quote from: murdoc
Vick and Walker could have potentially good games next week for you Haem.

Also, I'm heading to Seattle for the Seahawks vs. Bills game so I will have to have my  team set by Friday and I have the feeling the Chiefs aren't gonna say if Priest is in or out until after I have to finalise my rooster, which could help you quite a bit.


Enjoy. Seahawks Stadium aka Pisspoor Customer Service (Qwest) Field is pretty damned nice. It is a pretty steep hike to the top level seats, but the sight lines are good, there are tons of concessions, and (knock on wood) it has rained only once for a Seahawk game in the past 3 years, which is just short of a miracle.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on November 23, 2004, 10:03:27 PM
I got pretty groovy seats imo.

16 rows off the field, right at the front of the endzone.

(http://www3.telus.net/murdoc/view.JPG)

That should be roughly what my view will be.

Been wanting to catch an NFL game live for YEARS, but it's harder to do that living up in the frozen north of Canada. Was pretty excited because I knew the NFC South was playing the NFC West this year, but my Bucs didn't make the journey out west unfortunately. Kinda wanted to see the Seahawks vs. Falcons game, but with it on January 2nd it was a difficult one for me to plan around.

Also been somewhat of a closet Bledsoe fan, so figured this game would be ok. It might even turn out to be a close game with Dilfer starting for Seattle and the Bills actually playing 1/2 decent.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on November 24, 2004, 08:22:25 AM
NFL games are fun. Despite being only 2 1/2 hours from New Orleans, I've only been to one NFL game, when I was 8. And it was in the nosebleed section, during the Saints only non-losing season while Archie Manning was QB. They got whupped by the Dan Fouts' era Chargers 35-0.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on November 24, 2004, 08:30:53 AM
For a semi-knowledgeable fan, live games are incredible- you can see so much more of the action it is unreal. You can see what defense is being run, what happens behind the play, etc. The only thing I hate is that it is tougher to get fantasy info when you need it =)


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Paelos on November 24, 2004, 08:32:42 AM
Quote from: WayAbvPar
For a semi-knowledgeable fan, live games are incredible- you can see so much more of the action it is unreal. You can see what defense is being run, what happens behind the play, etc. The only thing I hate is that it is tougher to get fantasy info when you need it =)


A Blackberry solves this problem usually.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on November 24, 2004, 08:54:17 AM
I already tote my own cellphone, a company phone, and a company pager (don't ask...it is fucking stupid)- I am out of space for electronics =)


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on November 29, 2004, 09:18:24 AM
Nose Pickers               120.74    
Dean Martin's Liver    86.40    

Why, must once again I have to sit through an unbearable MNF.  I know that I'm up by 35 points; I should be secure right?  Not when the outstanding points are by a Green Bay WR.  

Anyhow, way to be Peyton.  His 46 kept me going with decent contributions by Fred Taylor and David Akers.  The rest of the team just blew the goat.  Here's the telling stat: Peyton Manning: 6 touchdowns; Rest of the Offensive Starters: ZERO.  Useless slugs.

Way gets hurt by Brown missing the game with a sprained lower left eyelid.  Culpepper, Moss, Chambers and NYJ defense all contribute decent points.

Both teams leave significant points on the bench, with Way winning the "ahh fuck" award by having Jerry Porter's "I'm a free agent!" game on the bench.  Monday Night is going to give me ulcers.
   
Pottsville Maroons     64.90
Natty Bohs              161.02    

Souk:

quar·ter·back   Audio pronunciation of "quarterback" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (kwôrtr-bk)
n. Football Abbr. QB

The backfield player whose position is behind the line of scrimmage and who usually calls the signals for the plays.

Wouldn't have likely mattered anyhow, even with Antonio Gates having another stellar game.  This guy would still score touchdowns with a 100lb weight attached to his ankle.  

Arc gets 3 gigantic performances from Harrison, Westbrook, and Rudi to lay an absolute pasting on the Maroons.

Soukyan leaves Davis's huge game once again on the bench.  Second week in a row this guy performed well after I call him a bad back.  Arc leaves huge Antonio Bryant points on the bench that don't matter one lick.  

161 points without a Tight End playing. Fuck.

Murg's Maulers          89.00    
The Groin Pulls     82.04    

Murg manages to roll on despite leaving a metric shitton of points on the bench. A good game out of "why didn't I choose you" Horn and some OK performance elsewhere leave this one as a lock with Favre's point still to come.

Shockeye gets decent games out of Dillon (when did this guy become such a goddamn badass?) and Carr, but lack of production elsewhere hurts.   A spoiler win would have been good here.

Kilt Wavers                      77.08
The Murdoc Bandwagon    106.66    

Vick finally lives up to his draft status! The Bus rumbles on! Everyone else takes the day off!  I don't think Javon Walker will outscore Isaac Bruce by 30 points, so Haem's likely to get a loss here (yay).

McNabb, Gonzales, Blaylock and Clayton all have solid gamesm for Murdoc. Kennison does shit.

No offense Haem, but how do you not start the hottest defense in football againt the fucking Lions? Their top reciever can't put on his shoe without screaming.  
   
Roosters                 82.44
McNair's Inebriates    76.06

Ugg, do I have to recap this one? The Rooster's get a huge game out of Pittman, the fumbling, rumbling machine.  Moulds also produces, but no one else does much.   Pollard does zippo and Gallo forgets to start a kicker.  

Glamdring gets decent points out of Brooks, Jones and New England.  Gets Sad Panda games out of Alexander and Williams (B-U-S-T).  With Longwell's and Holt's points to come, the Inebriates should pull this one out.  Last year's juggernaut loses again.

Some points were left on the bench for the Roosters. Glamdring leaves a McGahee's "who's this Henry guy" game on the bench.  Lot of points there, damn.

DrunksOnGrass         108.98    
Killer Koalas               113.90

Koalas once again get sickening steady points production.  15+ points on 5 players led by Mason's 22.  And Bolger's points are still to come. Bleh, this team is frightening; no weak holes.

Zetlef gets good games out of McNair and the incomprable LT but leaves a lot of significant big games on the bench.  Stokely's and Jones's big games sit there.  Pitty. Witten was almost invisible v. Chicago.


Playoff picture:

Provided Way, Haem, and Souk lose, I will have a 2 game lead on the 4th and final playoff spot with 2 games to go.  Games remaining: Koalas (ICK) and Pottsville (ok, you don't HAVE to get a QB).

I need to lose my final 2 and Haem/Way/Souk need to win out.  Souk and Way also play each other next week, so only one of them has a chance.  Way is the only one with a realistic chance given that Soukyan and Haem will have to make up around 200-300 points. In two weeks.  Way has a tough final game against Murg's Maulers.

Of course, if Driver has the game I fear he will, the above is meaningless and I need to win one game or Haem can win it (two creampuff games left).

The Bandwagon will likely remain the top seed with 2 easy games ahead.  Koalas and Maulers have a rougher road but will likely keep their spots.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on November 29, 2004, 09:24:01 AM
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Way gets hurt by Brown missing the game with a sprained lower left eyelid. Culpepper, Moss, Chambers and NYJ defense all contribute decent points.


That gimpy son of a bitch screwed me in 3 different leagues. I fucking hate Thanksgiving for football- you have to set your lineups too early to know who is going to play Sunday.

I also HATE HATE HATE head to head leagues. Invariably I have a high scoring team with a mediocre record due to the fact that my opponents always have their top score of the year against me. Next year, I am gonna set up a points race (maybe one that goes through the Superbowl, if that is possible). It is a far better indicator of which team is superior, IMHO.

Not that I am bitter.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Zetleft on November 29, 2004, 09:29:13 AM
I really pulled defeat from the jaws of victory this week.  Damn I am sucking in this league.  Oh well as long as I defeat Murdoc in the final game that's all that matters.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on November 29, 2004, 09:32:59 AM
Quote from: Rasix
No offense Haem, but how do you not start the hottest defense in football againt the fucking Lions? Their top reciever can't put on his shoe without screaming.  


Don't think I'm not kicking my own ass for that one. Here was my thought process. Indy can't stop anyone, and Roy Williams is a good wideout, playing at home. Detroit hasn't turned the ball over a lot, which is where Indy has gotten it's D-fantasy points. Meanwhile, Cincy is playing FUCKING CLEVELAND, which can't find the endzone with a water dowser's wand, a map, and automatic weapons on their side. Cincy has sucked at run D, but has had a really opportunistic, turnover-happy D. Ergo, while Indy against Detroit wasn't a bad matchup, the Cincy-Cleveland matchup seemed much tastier.

Holy Fucking Shit. 106 FUCKING POINTS!

I mean, really, who the fuck saw that coming? Neither team has shown anywhere near this kind of offensive production. Cleveland has shown an inconsistent ability to stop the run, but neither side has been able to do much against the pass, or with the pass for that matter. I'm thinking this game is going to go 17-10, 17-6, Bengals win. Some really obscenely low score, lots of fumblestiltskins and INT's, with as many points on D as on O. HOW THE FUCK COULD THE FOOTBALL GODS PISS IN MY FACE LIKE THAT? It is inconcievable.

Yep, I laid on egg on that one. Went for what I thought would be the mad points and end up leaving the mad points on the fucking bench.

Oh and Way... please go to Seattle, walk up to Matt Hasselback and SLAP HIM IN THE FACE WITH YOUR DICK. What the fuck is wrong with that team? Darrell Jackson should be lighting up a team like Buffalo or at the very least able to catch a pass or two. How the fuck does Seattle's D allow Bledsoe... BLEDSOE FOR FUCK'S SAKE to put up 30-sumin' points?

Oh wait, that's right, they lost to Arizona and had trouble with Miami. Jesus jumped up on a stick.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on November 29, 2004, 09:47:50 AM
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Oh and Way... please go to Seattle, walk up to Matt Hasselback and SLAP HIM IN THE FACE WITH YOUR DICK. What the fuck is wrong with that team? Darrell Jackson should be lighting up a team like Buffalo or at the very least able to catch a pass or two. How the fuck does Seattle's D allow Bledsoe... BLEDSOE FOR FUCK'S SAKE to put up 30-sumin' points?


Your boy Jackson dropped at LEAST 3 passes right in his fucking hands to kill drives. The offense was just unbelievably shitty, and Holmgren needs to be shoed in the nuts for a few hours. Why? Well, let me explain- Seattle has what many talking heads in the league refer to as the 'best left side offensive line in football'. They also have the league's leading rusher in Alexander. So what do they do most of the time? Run to the right, over their WORST O-lineman (G Chris Gray). 4 and goal at the 1, down by 10? Don't hand it to your Pro Bowl RB and run behind your 2 Pro Bowl OL. Kick a FG like a fucking pansy!

That fucking game pissed me off so bad it even carried over into my poker game (I started playing in the 2nd half to try to distract myself). I blew off $15 in about 10 minutes, realized I was playing poorly, said 'Fuck it' and took my wife to see The Incredibles (good flick).

Gahhh! Now I have a headache. GodDAMN the Seahawks. At least the Sonics are en fuego.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on November 29, 2004, 06:45:08 PM
Sorry about the empty kicker slot, despite my results, I must confess that I am actually trying.  When I swapped around my roster the other day, I completely overlooked it in my lust to pick up Ricky Williams for comedy value.  The fact that I was high on pumpkin pie and on my parents' "two tin cans attached by a tight string" internet connection didn't help.   On the upside, Janakowski managed to somehow put up zero points, so it won't have any impact on the outcome.  

<Insert my weekly whine about Jamal & Steven D stabbing me in the back this season here>


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on November 29, 2004, 07:07:34 PM
Seahawks game was pretty fun. When I first got the tix back in.. august I think... I was concerned it would be total dismantling of Buffalo, then the season started and I REALLY thought it would be a total dismantling of Buffalo.

Closer to gameday I figured it might be close... but I can honestly say I never thought Buffalo would absolutely dominate the Seahawks. Without the couple bad throws by Bledsoe that resulted in INTs, this game was OVER by 1/2 time.

Was still a blast. I had an insanely good time considering it was such a dud of a game. Lee Evans TD catch was RIGHT in front of us (8th row woo) and I kinda got a semi-blurry picture of it as I tried to aim my camera and not watch the game thru the little view finder.

Jackson sucks. There was a large sarcastic cheer when he finally caught a ball.

One thing that really impressed me was the class of the Seattle fans. As the game became apparent it was over and Buffalo was going to win, all around me Seattle fans were finding the nearest guy in a Buffalo jersey (lots in my section) and shaking their hands congratulating them on the win. Was very cool to see, especially with all the bad press sports fans are getting lately.

ps. On an unrelated note, Grammatica needs to have his ass FIRED promptly. Bucs might as well just go for the first down on 4th and whatever when they're in fieldgoal range.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on December 06, 2004, 02:06:14 PM
Nose Pickers     140.80    
Killer Koalas       68.18    

Aaaaannndddd he's in the playoffs.  This is not a game I expected to win.  Instead, it's a laugher.  It looks like the team was listening to me when I pointed out their lack of offensive touchdowns.  Everyone played well, not a single let down. Peyton, super plug in Goings, and C-Mart put forward huge fantasy games.  Still 2 more scores to go; this one could get silly.

Koalas got nothing from everyone not named Edge. Bulger: hurt; Moss: nothing; Crumpler: OMG, A SAFETY IS ON ME; Barber: "pitty me, my QB doesn't shave yet".

No significant points on the bench.  
   
Dean Martin's Liver      76.46
Pottsville Maroons    114.80    

Chambers and Culpepper(turnover machine) put decent points for Way, but not enough others contribute to make this game winnable.   Soukyan, on the other hand, gets enough solid performances to get by.  Nothing spectacular here, but enough to win (Andre Johnson did have a big yardage game, however).  Gates was held in check and I'm not sure why Dunn is still a starter.  

Enough points on the bench for Way to make Browns Monday night worth something.  Of course, when you're starting Donald Driver and Randy Moss and getting less combined points than Nate Burleson, perhaps God doesn't want you to win.  Souk leaves Kerry Collins's "it wasn't a fluke!" game on the bench.  
   
Murg's Maulers  78.44    
Natty Bohs    164.60

Boy am I glad I don't have to play the 'Bohs now. Natty Bohs, the hottest team in the league.. feels odd saying that. Westbrook just had a sick game. 48 fucking points.  This guy makes McNabb's job easy.  30 points out of Green, Byrant (WTF!?!?!?) and this one is a pancaking.  Heap and Johnson doing nothing matters little when you're riding 3 100 yard receiving games and 6 receiving touchdowns.

Joe Horn (/sigh) has a monster game and Roobie (/sigh) has a OK for real life, good for fantasy game.   However, Favre's horrible game pretty much made this game unwinnable for Murg.  Branch, Shockey, McAllister pretty much do nothing also.  

Charles Johnson's walk-the-walk game sits on the bench.  I guess I should be happy with Reggie Wayne, him winning me games and all that, but I still feel like a chump at times (this is mainly for Murg's benefit, bastard).

Kilt Wavers            127.60    
The Groin Pulls    88.18    

You'd think the reemergence of Portis and the dominance of Dillon would take a team somewhere, right? Not when the rest of your team stinks as righteously as Shockeye's. To be fair,  Carr, Smith, and Givens did jack (Givens fantasy value took a dive with Branch back).  Expecting something out of a New England TE is suicidal.

Haem braves the ride that is "Michael Vick, turnover experience". This guy can be simply jaw dropping amazing one week and then single handedly lose the game for his team the next. He has a way of pooch screwing ball games Dante Culpepper could only accomplish with two broken hands.  At times the man seems to embrace his inner Mark Brunell a bit too much.  Ok, off the negative, Haem gets great garbage time numbers out of Walker, an unexpected donkey punch from Ronald-flippin-Curry, and another bonzo-gonzo game out of JIHAD!; negating goose eggs from TEH BUS and Clark.

Haem also leaves 60 odd points on the bench.  Too little, too late, my friend.
   
Roosters                      111.94    
The Murdoc Bandwagon    105.36    

Amazing to think that someone could possibly lose behind McNabb's ludicrous-speed game.  Well, it's possible when you leave almost 95 points on the bench. There needs to be a rule about how many Chief's you're allowed on one team.  In Murdoc's starting lineup, Blaylock and Jackson don't do bad, but Clayton, Bruce and Gonzo fail to live up to expectations.

The first half of the Rooster's lineup produces well, including an actual fantasy game worth mentioning for Rothleswhatever. TO, despite being the equivalent of human sewage, once again produces big.  

Rooster's leave it all on the field, while Murdoc leaves enough points to beat 4 teams this week on the bench.  
   
DrunksOnGrass            127.64
McNair's Inebriates    133.34    

This game is still pretty much TBD. Can Witten + Julius Jones outpace Shawn Alexander and a handful of points? Toss up.

Stokely, the bane of my existence, puts up another waiver wire wonder number, while LT returns to his rightful place atop the San Diego offensive production. I can't help but feel pitty for a team that has to start a San Francisco player.  Poor poor Drunks.

Glamdring's boys get a ton of points out of New England, Aaron Brooks, Marcus Robinson and Tory Holt.  Boo Williams again, disappoints.  Thomas Jones is on the Bears.  

The Drunks leave Drew Bennet and his 33 points languishing in limbo.  I'm not sure why you wouldn't start him instead of Lelie.  At least Bennet is more spectacularly inconsistent.  

Still plenty of points to come.


Playoffs!

Looks like I'm in and in third(currently) due to Peyton Manning padding my point total all season. It is glorious to be riding the best season ever for a quarterback.

Looking at the schedules, next week will determine the 3 and 4 seeds.  If I win, I'm in third due to points.  If I lose and Murg loses, I'm in third due to points.  If I lose and Murg wins, well, I get to play the damn Bandwagon.  NOOOOOOO.

Koalas would have to win and score huge while Murdoc would need to go comatose for the Koalas to steal back first.  

Of course, if I win and the Koalas lose, I could be in second (depending on points).   I think. I'm starting to get confused.

Weeee.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on December 06, 2004, 02:14:22 PM
I'm still trying to figure out how many teams make the playoffs. I don't think I have a shot thanks to last week's loss.

I looked at the numbers between Vick and Brady all week long. I vacillated, switching them each twice. Vick had decent TD numbers against the Bucs, while Brady had never thrown a TD against Cleveland. My first instinct was that Brady was a better match because Cleveland sucks, but I second-and-third-guessed myself and finally stuck with Vick. Fucking goose egg, thanks Mike.

Kevin Jones... holy fuck. Not that I needed his 30 points, but shit. Even though I knew it was a decent matchup for him, I still didn't think he'd put up a buck-96 and a TD to boot.

And I have to play the Marvin Harrison/Trent Green/Bryan Westbrook Natty Bohs next week? Shit. At least Westbrook is playing against the Redskins, so he probably won't rush for much.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: schild on December 06, 2004, 02:15:24 PM
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I don't know what the FUCK you just said, Little Kid, but you're special man, you reached out, and you touched a brother's heart.


Edit: I enjoy reading the drama. But I don't know shitall about football.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on December 06, 2004, 02:22:12 PM
It was heartwarming to see my boys out there playing for pride, knocking off the #1 team in the league even though we're out of the race.  Brings a tear to my eye, and fills me with confidence for the 2005 season.  Obviously, I'll start with Lewis and Davis once again...


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on December 06, 2004, 04:18:45 PM
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I don't know what the FUCK you just said, Little Kid, but you're special man, you reached out, and you touched a brother's heart.


Edit: I enjoy reading the drama. But I don't know shitall about football.


(http://auction4.comton.com/member/bushlax2003/FoghornLeghorn.jpg)

Foghorn thinks there is something kinda Eeeeeh about a boy who don't know shit about football =)


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on December 06, 2004, 09:27:26 PM
How ya feeling right now, Way?  Seattle D shits the bed once again.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Zetleft on December 07, 2004, 06:20:41 AM
Julius came up big for me this game, and yes my one game hell of using a SF player due to injuries is over.  As far as lelie goes he has been scoring every week as has Bennett, downside of Bennett is he has alot of near TD dropped balls.  Oh well still won, not making the playoffs but at least I'm not at the bottom.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: MrHat on December 07, 2004, 09:04:11 AM
Heheh.

4 weeks ago I was last place in my league.  Now I'm a play off contender.  Scored 241 points last week w/ McNabb-Westbrook, Hasselbeck, Mohammed, Lelie, J.Jones, and Portis finally did something useful.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on December 07, 2004, 09:21:02 AM
Quote from: Rasix
How ya feeling right now, Way?  Seattle D shits the bed once again.


Goddamn that was fucking sickening. How shitty is your D that you can't even hold a fucking 10 point lead with 2 minutes left AGAINST FUCKING DALLAS? How much shittier is it that you can't sweep through the fucking NFC WEST FOR CHRISSAKES? I mean, you play Arizona AND San Francisco TWICE EACH. That's not even junior varsity level games. And you should at least win one game against the Rams, considering you play outside and they suck outside. That's 5 gimme games right there. And yet you struggle to maintain 6-6 and lose at home to DALLAS and BUFFALO in consecutive weeks?

Steve Largent wants his number back.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on December 07, 2004, 10:56:28 AM
Quote from: Rasix
How ya feeling right now, Way?  Seattle D shits the bed once again.


To compound matters, I have Seattle's D in my big money league ($200 entry fee, winner pockets ~$1800- currently tied for 2nd)- they were worth 12 points until the last 3 minutes- over 30 points is a -10. FUCK.

I was out, so I TiVoed the game. I had heard some rumblings about it, but had no idea how it ended. I am pretty sure I woke my neighbors up at midnight screaming FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! when Keyshawn caught that fucking pass (out of bounds, it would appear). I still feel sick- I was giddy when Alexander busted that run on 4-1 to APPARENTLY ice the game. Then POW- right in gonads.

Holmgren's ass is SO fired at the end of the year it isn't even funny.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on December 07, 2004, 11:31:42 AM
I'm still trying to figure out WHY the Hawks are sucking so bad. It isn't for lack of talent, because that defense has some guys with major talent. But for whatever reason, they don't seem able or willing to play "four quarters of football." I mean, I can understand giving up a big lead to the Rams eariler in the year; it's the Rams, after all. But to the 49ers AND the Cowboys? UNPOSSIBLE!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: sidereal on December 07, 2004, 12:32:00 PM
It's because the linebacking crew is absolutely terrible.  I mean, I like Kazjiwinewskivitz and Kotivelenopus and all, but we're playing a 4th string linebacking crew, which puts too much pressure on the line and the secondary.  Chad Brown was always, I thought, a marginal NFL linebacker, and now we're pining for him.

The Hawks offense feels funny.  It's like a Rubik's cube where it looks like you're so close because only one or two squares are off, so you diddle around for an hour and can't get it, because in fact you're completely fucked and nowhere near done, so the only solution is to tear it up and start over.

Holmgren shouldn't be blamed for the officiating crew upstairs brainfarting and refusing to look at a critical touchdown in the last 2 minutes.  He should be blamed for letting Dallas hang around long enough at home that it even mattered.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: MrHat on December 07, 2004, 01:27:49 PM
Quote from: HaemishM
I'm still trying to figure out WHY the Hawks are sucking so bad. It isn't for lack of talent, because that defense has some guys with major talent. But for whatever reason, they don't seem able or willing to play "four quarters of football." I mean, I can understand giving up a big lead to the Rams eariler in the year; it's the Rams, after all. But to the 49ers AND the Cowboys? UNPOSSIBLE!


Didn't they have a bunch of injuries on defense like 5 weeks in?

I swapped out that defense for turnover happy Cin.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on December 08, 2004, 01:19:22 AM
I think I found the weakness to my team... it's run by me.


I think Seattle is missing 4 of their starting linebackers, but that final drive by Dallas was impessive. You don't see many last minute 57 yard drives that include only one pass reception for I believe 13 yards. The rest was all Jones and ineptitude of the Seattle defense.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on December 14, 2004, 11:55:58 AM
Since I've been buried at work, I'll try to make this a short, short version.  

Playoffs next week, this week was pretty much just jockeying for position and for pride.

Nose Pickers  97.52          
Pottsville Maroons    113.36    

Damn, I lost.  Lack of performance from the kicker, D and Keyshawn didn't help much. Also, a nice chunk of points left on the bench.  Common Manning, 2 touchdowns, no picks and almost 300 yards. Goddamn slacker.

Soukyan rides Davis's big game to victory (this guy has been dynamite since I dissed him).  Baltimore also put forth a huge performance making Eli Manning look like Tim Hasselback.
   
Dean Martin's Liver vs    107.20    
Murg's Maulers    115.40    

Mediocre game from both teams.  Chris Brown could have done a lot better for Way. Two fumbles, OUCH MY TOE.  

Murg wins (only playoff bound team to)  third place and the right to face the slumping Koalas in the playoffs.  
   
Kilt Wavers     116.70    
Natty Bohs    110.76    

Close game.  Arc leaves KC's D on the bench (rightfully) and loses due to it.  JIHAD once again performs well for the Wavers.  

Haem leaves the current hottest D and Capt. Falafel's big games resting on the bench.
   
Roosters     69.66    
The Groin Pulls   122.06    

Shockeye sends last year's champs home in a nice humiliating fashion. You're not going to win a game when your highest point producer is Pitt's D at 15.  

Shockeye gets good games from Hasselback, Portis, Smith and Dillon to make his season a bit less embarrassing.

DrunksOnGrass     202.64   
The Murdoc Bandwagon    130.00    

Holy fucking Drew Bennet.  Yet another player I could have gotten for Reuben Droughns.  This guy just slaughers shitty defenses.  Highest point total of the year involves 3 scores of more than 36 points.  Nearly a 100 points between Bennett and Volek. Ouch.

Murdoc leaves a good amount of points on the bench but it's not going to touch 202 points.
   
McNair's Inebriates     102.48    
Killer Koalas    89.16    

Inebriates win to bring their record up to an NFC playoff worthy 6-8.  Koalas drop their 2nd in a row and fail to break 100 again.  

Both teams leave points on the bench.  Hey, I'm tired.  This game wasn't that interesting.  If I'm the Koalas I want Bulger back. Plummer is a fantasy crap shoot (more just crap lately).  

Playoffs!

Murdoc v. Rasix (Nose Pickers)

The matchups don't favor me in this one.  Hopefully Atlanta can play KC tough or I'm meat.

Jamiko (Koalas) v. Murgos

Interesting machups with this one.  I'd rate Murg as the favorite as the Koalas just haven't looked that impressive lately.  Edge should be a non factor this week as well (I'm usually spectacularly wrong with these type of predictions).

Fun season!  

Some quick notes:

Way finishes 4th in points but is 6-8 and in 7th place.  Also loses his last 3 games of the season.

Souk only has 4 roster moves all season and finishes in 5th.  Some better roster management could have possibly put him in the playoffs.

3 of the 4 playoff teams lose in the last week.  The two top teams are riding back to back losses.

Haem wins the Most-Roster-Moves award with 25 waiver pickups.  I held the lead in this through most of the season.  

I lose 2 of my top 5 picks with the same broken bone.

Peyton Manning can single handedly carry you to the playoffs.

The Bus still has gass in the tank.

The Chiefs may suck, but they're fantasy gold.


Two weeks until we crown our champ. Weeee.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Zetleft on December 14, 2004, 12:03:32 PM
Sure I missed the playoffs by a mile but I beat the hell out of Murdoc and that's really what matters in the end :p


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on December 14, 2004, 12:13:44 PM
This league was a fun one for me, because I didn't really have any BIG names like the Priest Holmes or Marvin Harrison's. I did all right with smaller names like Javon Walker and, of course, THE BUS during the weeks Staley was hurt. Most of my wins and losses were only by differences of 20 points or less. I finished 8th in points, but 6th in the standings. I still like the head2head style of play, because it favors good roster management with a bit of luck as well.

I'd say probably 1/4 of all my roster moves were trying to settle on a good defensive matchup. I started the year with Tennessee and Indy's D and ended it using Indy's D, but got no real consistent defense. I also spent most of the year trying to get a 2nd wideout and a tight end to give me consistent points. It wasn't until JIHAD and the Panthers got their shit together that I got that, and never got it with a TE.

Ah well, I can still look at my Morlocks League team which has only lost 1 game!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on December 14, 2004, 01:16:00 PM
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Way finishes 4th in points but is 6-8 and in 7th place. Also loses his last 3 games of the season.


To quote myself earlier in the thread-

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I also HATE HATE HATE head to head leagues. Invariably I have a high scoring team with a mediocre record due to the fact that my opponents always have their top score of the year against me. Next year, I am gonna set up a points race (maybe one that goes through the Superbowl, if that is possible). It is a far better indicator of which team is superior, IMHO.

Not that I am bitter.


/shakes fist feebly


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Shockeye on December 14, 2004, 01:41:18 PM
I am... the basement. I am the suck. I am humiliation. I am the Groin Pulls.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Jamiko on December 14, 2004, 02:07:42 PM
Yeah, I sure went in the tank lately. Tiki Barber went from the ultra stud to mega pansy. I don't expect anything out of him next week against the Steelers either. Bulger may be back, but I'm not confident enough to play him. Perhaps Kansas City will allow Jake to toss a few in the endzone. Perhaps. I don't like my chances.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on December 14, 2004, 02:30:44 PM
I could throw touchdown passes against KC's defense. To myself.

Tiki is a victim of the same thing Eli is a victim of. Hard to run/throw the ball when the offensive line couldn't block Lucy and the Peanuts gang.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Soukyan on December 14, 2004, 03:42:22 PM
Ack! You're right. A couple roster changes during my loss of Pennington and I would have made the playoffs with no problem whatsoever. Ah well. It was a fun season to be sure and I look forward to next year. I enjoy head to head leagues because it's nice to have a surprise week with lucky wins sometimes. Gives it more of that "Any Given Sunday" feel that makes American football so fun.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: El Gallo on December 15, 2004, 07:11:06 AM
While they could have put a little more effort out in the last game, I am proud of the hard work my boys put in over the season.  But for a few injuries and drug suspensions, we would've been right up there.  I feel we will have a strong team next year, and bring the title back to the chicken coop where it belongs.

I also have to speak out in favor of the head-to-head system.  It almost screwed me last year, but it makes the season more fun.  I stayed awake through a couple Monday night games that I normally would have slept through because of the head-to-head matchups.  Raw points makes things more dull in my opinion, and you pretty much know who is going to win the season by week 3, barring some ACL tears.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on December 15, 2004, 08:42:41 AM
Quote from: Soukyan
Ack! You're right. A couple roster changes during my loss of Pennington and I would have made the playoffs with no problem whatsoever.


Hey, I'm happy you missed the playoffs.  It saved me of having the second highest point total and missing the playoffs by one spot for the second straight year.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on December 15, 2004, 02:25:00 PM
NFL to crack down on touchdown dances (http://www.thebrushback.com/nflcapgayness_full.htm)

I am guessing the TO pom poms bit is out, but who knows?


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on December 15, 2004, 02:45:42 PM
Pure genius.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on December 20, 2004, 08:34:42 AM
I will compose myself and perhaps write something later.  I will, however, say one thing.

Fucking Chiefs.

Note: This does not mean I like the Broncos. Fuck them too for allowing Kennison and Grandmama to pour on the points.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Paelos on December 20, 2004, 09:14:30 AM
Fire Shanananananahan.


That is all.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on December 20, 2004, 09:16:41 AM
Jeebus the Seahawks are bad. I hope I can find a way to be in Vegas for their inevitable (and wholly undeserved) playoff appearance- it will likely be at home, which means the line won't be as lopsided as it should be. Easy money!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on December 20, 2004, 09:27:51 AM
Yay Chiefs!


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on December 20, 2004, 09:33:24 AM
The NFC West is a hot potato no one wants to hold onto. The Rams or the Seahawks should have RUN AWAY with that division like Atlanta did with the Dirty South. Of course, the NFC North seems just as bad, since Green Bay apparently can't stop ANYBODY. Fucking Mike Sherman; the D Coordinator wasn't the problem, it was the D. KGB, Nick Barnett and Al Harris are the best you have; Grady "One More Plate of Mashed Potatoes" Jackson being a crucial part of their run D is just criminal. That clothesline on Ferguson probably wasn't intentional, but goddamn that was an ugly hit.

Oh to have a looped replay of TO going down. OWWIES. Especially to hear the sound of what might be a ligament popping (he said he thought he heard a pop). I don't say that kind of stuff about any player, except maybe TO and Keyshawn. Go AWAY.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: WayAbvPar on December 20, 2004, 10:17:54 AM
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That clothesline on Ferguson probably wasn't intentional, but goddamn that was an ugly hit.


Yeah, that was vicious. Gonna cost him a few grand, methinks.

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Oh to have a looped replay of TO going down. OWWIES. Especially to hear the sound of what might be a ligament popping (he said he thought he heard a pop). I don't say that kind of stuff about any player, except maybe TO and Keyshawn. Go AWAY.



Heh. I can't believe TO claims to have heard anything pop- how could he, with his goddamned mouth running at all times? I rarely dislike anyone enough to wish injury upon them, but I would love to see TO go out Theismann-style. Especially if shards of his femur flew up and took out his vocal cords.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on December 20, 2004, 01:35:31 PM
And on that note Owens is DONE for the season including playoffs (http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/news_story.asp?id=108689)

Anyone who actually decides they WANT to be in the playoffs in the NFC has a shot at the Superbowl imo.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on December 20, 2004, 01:43:00 PM
Fuck me. The NFC is now officially WIDE FUCKING OPEN. Shit, even the Seahawks or the Packers could make it. Without TO, that Philly attack is limited to McNabb and Westbrook, because Todd "I won't run the middle of the field" Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell ain't gonna scare no one. Atlanta isn't even the favorite because of their incosistent play.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Paelos on December 20, 2004, 01:44:57 PM
I'll support the Falcons for the Atlanta love, but I'm not a believer. They lack a critical element in the game called a secondary, which will eventually crush them when they face off against a pass dominated team.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on December 20, 2004, 01:46:16 PM
Quote from: Paelos
I'll support the Falcons for the Atlanta love, but I'm not a believer. They lack a critical element in the game called a secondary, which will eventually crush them when they face off against a pass dominated team.


Vick can also single handedly either win or lose the game depending on what phase the moon is in.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on December 20, 2004, 01:50:55 PM
I kinda like Atlanta. At least they let the Bucs beat them up this year, and not many teams allowed that.  Plus, I do admit, I'm on the Vick bandwagon. When that guy is ON he is damn fun to watch play football.

I bet Buffalo, Denver, Baltimore and even some of the 6-8 teams in the AFC wished they were NFC right about now. Hell I bet the Colts wish they were NFC right about now.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Dark Vengeance on December 20, 2004, 02:12:58 PM
I don't see anyone pushing the Eagles that badly, even without Owens. Who else is there?

Green Bay? Pfft. The defense is in no position to stand up to Indy, and even Pittsburgh or the Pats could score serious points on them.

Atlanta? Paelos is right, outside of the rookie Hall, the Falcons don't have a worthwhile cover guy. Put that Falcons team up against receivers like Harrison/Stokley/Wayne, Burress/Ward/Randle-El, or Givens/Patten/Brown and it's going to be a long day.

Minnesota? Provided they don't implode and miss the playoffs, the Vikes are about as well equipped as any team offensively, with a solid core unit on defense. They just need to get back on the roll they were on during the first few weeks of the year. Outside of a healthy Philly, the Vikes are the most likely to beat the AFC Champ, and Minnesota has certainly shown themselves to be mortal.

Seattle? The Seahawks have to find a way to stumble into the playoffs, and then stumble on through a couple of games. I don't see them getting anywhere if they make the post-season.

St Louis? Bulger is banged up, Faulk isn't the spark he once was (even splitting time with the rook), and the defense can be had.

Arizona? BWHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH. When Detroit has beaten you by 2 TDs, you've already started booking tee times for January.

Tampa or Carolina? Long-shots to make it in, scary to their fellow NFC teams, but Cowher, Dungy, or Belichick would absolutely love to see an NFC Cinderella show up in Jacksonville.

Bring the noise.
Cheers............


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: HaemishM on December 20, 2004, 02:38:02 PM
Hell, even WITH Owens, I don't see any NFC team giving any AFC top-tier team a scare. They just aren't that good.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Zetleft on December 20, 2004, 04:09:33 PM
Quote from: murdoc
And on that note Owens is DONE for the season including playoffs (http://www.tsn.ca/nfl/news_story.asp?id=108689)

Anyone who actually decides they WANT to be in the playoffs in the NFC has a shot at the Superbowl imo.


Holy fuck, I love that and now I love you for posting it.  That's what you get for dancing on the star FUCKER.  I never cheer for injuries but I damn near hit the roof when I jumped for joy during that play.  bye bye iggles.  Guess the superbowl is Pitts to lose this year, I hate the team so that takes alot to say.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: SirBruce on December 20, 2004, 04:35:04 PM
The idea that a 7-9 team could still win their division is very sad.

Bruce


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on December 20, 2004, 05:05:35 PM
Kinda of a weird dilemma. McNabb is a big reason my team is where it's at, but now I'm faced with the 'Do I play Drew Bledsoe and his fighting-for-a-playoff Bills against San Fran, or do I keep McNabb and his coast-into-the-playoffs-without-Owens Eagles against St. Louis'.

The only reason I can honest say I would keep McNabb in is that they play St. Louis on Monday night and I can see McNabb trying to shut the nay-sayers up by having a huge game on MNF... or trying to at least.

Interesting choice imo


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Zetleft on December 20, 2004, 06:23:11 PM
The only way he is gonna have over 200 yards is if he runs for about 80.  Go with the guy on a hot streak while it lasts.  McNabbs other receivers can't finish a play and won't take a hit.  And San Fran simply blows goats.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Paelos on December 21, 2004, 06:53:47 AM
Quote from: Zetleft
Guess the superbowl is Pitts to lose this year, I hate the team so that takes alot to say.


As much as I love the Steelers I must say the obvious here: rookie quarterback. The AFC is the dominant side right now of the playoff tree, I would imagine making it to the championship game would prove exceeding difficult for Rothlesburger.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: murdoc on December 29, 2004, 07:10:21 AM
Yay! I win! I just got back online after the Christmas break, so haven't really looked at what happened other than 'Yay! I won!'


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Rasix on December 29, 2004, 10:48:36 AM
I lost the Reuben Droughns bowl to end up in fourth. Boo.

Funny that the playoffs ended up exactly as the seeding would dictate. Good job. Chiefs suck.


Title: Fantasy Football Central
Post by: Murgos on December 29, 2004, 11:32:02 AM
I have no idea how my team only managed 60 points the first week of the play-offs.  What kind of strange freakish luck was that?