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Once inside the car, a source directly connected with the case says Gibson began banging himself against the seat. The report says Gibson told the deputy, "You mother f****r. I'm going to f*** you." The report also says "Gibson almost continually [sic] threatened me saying he 'owns Malibu' and will spend all of his money to 'get even' with me."

The report says Gibson then launched into a barrage of anti-Semitic statements: "F*****g Jews... The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world." Gibson then asked the deputy, "Are you a Jew?"

The deputy became alarmed as Gibson's tirade escalated, and called ahead for a sergeant to meet them when they arrived at the station. When they arrived, a sergeant began videotaping Gibson, who noticed the camera and then said, "What the f*** do you think you're doing?"

A law enforcement source says Gibson then noticed another female sergeant and yelled, "What do you think you're looking at, sugar tits?"

We're told Gibson took two blood alcohol tests, which were videotaped, and continued saying how "f****d" he was and how he was going to "f***" Deputy Mee.

Yes, it's me. Explanation here (http://www.gameangst.com/Movies/p2_articleid/49).

That pic would have been way better had you done the old "thumb goes beneath the index finger" thing with your fists.

Er, he's making a fist correctly. You don't want your thumb to be beside the index finger. If it was, you'd never see it becuase it'd be behind the fist in the picture.

Not like it matters, he could probably take Uwe either way.

But this came up before, when The Passion of the Christ was out, as the reason the movie focuses all blame squarely on the Jews (and none on Pontius Pilate and the Romans).

I never quite got that whole thing.  Any reasonably faithful movie adaptation of the Biblical accounts would have to lay most of the blame at the feet of the Sanhedrin, not the Roman government.  There were even a few embellishments in the movie that made the Jewish elders come off better than they did in the Biblical version.

Mel has apologized for makiing "despicable statements" when he was arested (although not specifying what they were) so that lends a bit of credence to it:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060729/ap_en_ot/people_gibson_23

He was only a .12, so it is odd that he went so nuts as that is my baseline while posting on here and I manage to keep it together pretty well.

Juan Cole has a different take on the whole thing (http://www.juancole.com/2004/02/passion-of-christ-in-world-religions.html). I'd tend to give him some credence in this regard.

Braveheart is still an awesome movie.

That sums up my feelings on Mel Gibson right there.

Two men enter. One man leave.

I'll never understand Hollywood's habit of butchering history to make a good movie, when the history itself would make a perfectly good story - If you're going to make a movie based upon historical events, actually base it on those events, instead of just making shit up. Either make it fiction and say so, or non-fiction.

As Tale said, "WTF!?"

Though, as far as movies go, Braveheart is still thoroughly enjoyable.

I don't think Mel became Australian until he was a teen-ager or something.  He also seems to be made up.

Born in NY state, he never gave up his American nationality, though he did grow up with the colonists who learned how to correctly spell and drive on roads.

A closer look at Gibson's apologies, moreover, reveals one big component missing: What about Mel's dad?

Now, the question here isn't about how Mel feels about his 86-year-old father, nor is this an attempt to drive a wedge between him and his father. (Indeed, it has been by pretending that this is the case that Gibson has so far evaded any serious attempt to answer the very serious questions that linger regarding his associations with anti-Semitic beliefs.)

Rather, it is a question about Gibson's own beliefs: What does he believe about the size and scope of the Holocaust? What does he believe about the role of the Jews in world affairs, both historically and currently? Does he in fact believe in the kinds of conspiracy theories that his DUI rant suggested?

This is largely because of what Gibson has said in the past, particularly when compared to what his father has written and said.

Take, for instance, his 1995 interview in Playboy:

    PLAYBOY: How do you feel about Bill Clinton?

    GIBSON: He's a low-level opportunist. Somebody's telling him what to do.

    PLAYBOY: Who?

    GIBSON: The guy who's in charge isn't going to be the front man, ever. If I were going to be calling the shots I wouldn't make an appearance. Would you? You'd end up losing your head. It happens all the time. All those monarchs. Ifhe's the leader, he's getting shafted. What's keeping him in there? Why would you stay for that kind of abuse? Except that he has to stay for some reason. He was meant to be the president 30 years ago, if you ask me.

    PLAYBOY: He was just 18 then.

    GIBSON: Somebody knew then that he would be president now.

    PLAYBOY: You really believe that?

    GIBSON: I really believe that. He was a Rhodes scholar, right? Just like Bob Hawke. Do you know what a Rhodes scholar is? Cecil Rhodes established the Rhodes scholarship for those young men and women who want to strive for a new world order. Have you heard that before? George Bush? CIA? Really, it's Marxism, but it just doesn't want to call itself that. Karl had the right idea, but he was too forward about saying what it was. Get power but don't admit to it. Do it by stealth. There's a whole trend of Rhodes scholars who will be politicians around the world.

    PLAYBOY: This certainly sounds like a paranoid sense of world history. You must be quite an assassination buff.

    GIBSON: Oh, fuck. A lot of those guys pulled a boner. There's something to do with the Federal Reserve that Lincoln did, Kennedy did and Reagan tried. I can't remember what it was, my dad told me about it. Everyone who did this particular thing that would have fixed the economy got undone. Anyway, I'll end up dead if I keep talking shit.

...

Then, after the furor erupted over The Passion, he gave an interview with Peggy Noonan that included evasive answers about Holocaust denial:

    "I have friends and parents of friends who have numbers on their arms. The guy who taught me Spanish was a Holocaust survivor. He worked in a concentration camp in France. Yes, of course. Atrocities happened. War is horrible. The Second World War killed tens of millions of people. Some of them were Jews in concentration camps. Many people lost their lives. In the Ukraine, several million starved to death between 1932 and 1933. During the last century, 20 million people died in the Soviet Union."

...

Of course, these are all organizations with whom Gibson's father, Hutton Gibson, has direct and open associations. He gives speeches before them and writes for their various publishing organs. Hutton Gibson speaks at Holocaust denial conferences and has continuing significant associations with such anti-Semites as Frederick Toben of the Adelaide Institute.

Even before The Passion was released, he made headlines by telling the New York Times that 9/11 was actually a Jewish plot:

    The actor's father, Hutton Gibson, told The New York Times he flatly rejected that the terrorist group led by Usama bin Laden had any role in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon Sept. 11.

    "Anybody can put out a passenger list," the elder Gibson told The Times.

    "So what happened? They were crashed by remote control."

    He and the actor's mother, Joye Gibson, also told The Times that the Holocaust was a fabrication manufactured to hide an arrangement between Adolf Hitler and "financiers" to move Jews out of Germany to the Middle East to fight Arabs.

    "Go and ask an undertaker or the guy who operates the crematorium what it takes to get rid of a dead body," Hutton Gibson told The Times. "It takes one liter of petrol and 20 minutes. Now six million?"

    Said Joye Gibson: "That weren't even that many Jews in all of Europe."


Just as the film was being released, Hutton Gibson gave an interview that included this gem:

    To a Jew a Christian commits idolatry every time he looks at a crucifix and says a prayer. You know there in control and they're going to get in control the way things are going. Because they get all of our people...They killed several generations of us Americans (referring to WWWI, WWII)...The Jews weren't in the army much in WWI that because they were fomenting a revolt in Russia. America had no right to fight in foreign wars (in reference to WWI and WWII).


Gee, sounds rather like people who claim that "the Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world," doesn't it?

Ah, but what does Mel Gibson think about all this? In the same interview with Noonan, he makes clear that he believes everything his pop says:

    "My dad taught me my faith, and I believe what he taught me. The man never lied to me in his life."

My favourite Mel Gibson film was Lethal Weapon. 

Even if it IS 'just the booze.' [...]

I'm sorry if you think that alcohol changes people in ways beyond themselves, but I disagree.

I'm telling you (not suggesting to you) that when they get drunk, it's exactly like Bruce Banner changing into the fucking Hulk. Completely different behavior.

No one is saying that alcohol effects everyone in this way, just that it does for some people. Hell, there wouldn't even be so many guilt ridden alcoholics trying to kick their habit, just for the sake of it, if that wasn't the case.

Oh man, that's some funny shit, Helm.  :-D

Do you also like to get beaten up and have your head tossed in a toilet? Because at a metal fest, I'm thinking that's what happens when you show up as Joseph's Gay Technicolor Rainbow.

No problems with being beaten up. But the paparazzi were annoying. :-D

That's because they thought you were Noddy!

Matt Lucas makes me laugh and laugh and laugh!

Which probably looks something like this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-679089585035130394