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Title: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: SurfD on June 27, 2006, 02:16:11 AM Well, just got done screening Supe Returns, thought I would toss out my 10cent critique:
I liked it. Good action, fiarly coherent plot, some very decent character development. Very little in the way of inconsistincies (other then one small gripe about the whole Lex master plot setup), and some interesting (although not mindblowing or cleverly hidden) twists. Rehashing of superman's background / origin story takes up a whoppign 5 minutes or less of the movie, half of which is told in nice, concise flashback. From there, its all about Supes and adjusting to life in metropolis after a 5 year absence. Movie is fairly heafty. The print i screened clocked in at 2 hours 50 minutes (counting 6 full length trailers and theatre adverts). You will be happy to know that there is nothing to see at the end of the credits, so unless you feel like listening to the Superman theme score, feel free to bail when the lights come back up. All in all, I would put this at just a tiny bit under Batman Begins as a really good Revival movie for DC's other superhero movie franchise. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: shiznitz on June 27, 2006, 07:12:44 AM I already saw this movie in 1978. Apparently Singer co-opted Brando and dialogue from the original. Will wait for Netflix.
Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: bhodi on June 28, 2006, 07:23:16 AM I liked it, but when the scene came up, all I could think of was this: http://lexluthor.ytmnd.com/
Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Zetleft on June 28, 2006, 12:46:31 PM I already saw this movie in 1978. Apparently Singer co-opted Brando and dialogue from the original. Will wait for Netflix. How CGI helped Marlon Brando return. clicky (http://youtube.com/watch?v=-K_x-HE_ya8&search=marlon%20brando%20superman) Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Broughden on June 29, 2006, 01:23:24 AM Okay I went to see the movie tonight.
Initial impressions... Spacey did a marvelous job. Routh did a pretty damn good job as well. Production quality and special effects were AMAZING but compared to X-Men 3 or the last Star Wars movie...Im not really sure how they managed to spend so much more money than those two movies did. The one BIG thing that I felt was kinda a let down (SPOILER ALERT)- posted in black..... I dont know. While I think Spacey did a great job as Lex Luthor, the main plot seemed to come down to...... Superman versus the Giant Evil Island! Also it was an entire island FULL of kryptonite! I understand the concept of suspension of disbelief, but I also feel the writers have to be true to the character....sorry but I dont buy Superman launching an island the size of Manhattan into orbit when its made of Kryptonite. (with more kryponite still stuck inside of him- the sliver they pull out at the hospital). The ending just left me thinking...WTF?!? Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Cheddar on June 29, 2006, 05:19:59 AM Okay I went to see the movie tonight. Initial impressions... Spacey did a marvelous job. Routh did a pretty damn good job as well. Production quality and special effects were AMAZING but compared to X-Men 3 or the last Star Wars movie...Im not really sure how they managed to spend so much more money than those two movies did. The one BIG thing that I felt was kinda a let down (SPOILER ALERT)- posted in black..... Hey asshole, I am using the babylon background! (whitish background). Thanks for spoiling everything for me!!!!!11111eleven Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Issele on June 29, 2006, 11:15:15 AM Okay I went to see the movie tonight. Initial impressions... Spacey did a marvelous job. Routh did a pretty damn good job as well. Production quality and special effects were AMAZING but compared to X-Men 3 or the last Star Wars movie...Im not really sure how they managed to spend so much more money than those two movies did. The one BIG thing that I felt was kinda a let down (SPOILER ALERT)- posted in black..... To reply to the spoiler in black, in how is that possible....He is Superman. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: raydeen on July 02, 2006, 05:15:06 PM Went to see it today at the Imax with the 3D effects. Good movie, but the 3D was wasted and seemed like a complete afterthought. Parts that I thought should've been in 3D weren't and parts that I felt shouldn't have been were. There were at least two scenes that they put into 3D that were so dark the effect was pretty much lost. And the actors looked really fake when 3D'd. Sort've looked like they were plastic action figures hung in front of the background. The opening credits should've been in 3D. That would've freaking rocked. They showed some previews for upcoming CGI kids films that were in 3D and they looked incredible so the technology is certainly worth using more. Other than that, the only other complaint I could come up with is it could've been shorter. Kevin Spacey did rock as Lex. Definately made the movie.
Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Abagadro on July 02, 2006, 11:04:58 PM Quote Im not really sure how they managed to spend so much more money than those two movies did. Huge amounts of money were spent that never went into the movie you see on the screen but are included in the "budget." They had to pay tens and tens of millions of dollars to people like Nicolas Cage, Tim Burton, Kevin Smith, J.J. Abrams, McG, etc. etc. etc. who have been part of the project but then left before Singer took over. So the 260 mil. figure you seen thrown around is pretty misleading. On the flick, I liked it quite a bit. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Llava on July 02, 2006, 11:26:08 PM Great movie, except I had to sit next to some 4 year old whose parents wouldn't shut him the fuck up.
I'm sorry, but you know what? Wait for DVD or get a babysitter. Keep your child out of movies that aren't rated G or PG. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Kail on July 02, 2006, 11:43:41 PM Great movie, except I had to sit next to some 4 year old whose parents wouldn't shut him the fuck up. Ditto. Every damned time the soundtrack dropped to "dramatic silence" the sprog behind me yelled "MOMMY, IS THAT GUY DEAD?" or something. On the movie, meh. I thought it was a bit on the predictable side, but still worth the price of admission. Lex was an interesting character, but that was the lamest evil plot I've ever seen. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Abagadro on July 03, 2006, 12:06:57 AM Quote but that was the lamest evil plot I've ever seen. I somewhat saw the flick as a relaunch of the franchise with the concept being "let's pay homage to the original so we don't look like assholes." They were handcuffed by Reeve's post-Supe life and had to at least not appear to trash it in the reboot. They are now in the position to do more interesting stuff. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Chenghiz on July 03, 2006, 06:21:06 AM I haven't seen the older Superman movies, but this one pretty much got my impression of Superman dead-on. I enjoyed it. Luthor's plot was megalomaniacally awesome but had some severe problems that I probably don't have to mention, but whatever, it's a comic book film.
I did notice the CG characters in some of the scenes, but Routh was wearing so much makeup as Superman that it was actually kind of hard to tell what was CG with him. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Broughden on July 03, 2006, 07:17:17 AM , but that was the lamest evil plot I've ever seen. Glad Im not the only one who felt this way. Hence my spoiler post above (and below) about this. To reply to the spoiler in black, in how is that possible....He is Superman. Response is posted in black below. It is SPOILER information so dont read past this line if you havent seen the movie: I understand that but as I said its a matter of consistency. For example when he first lands on the island he was there for what? 30 secs? And was so weakened already that Lex knocks his ass down the stairs. Yet 15 mins later Im supposed to believe he can pick up the same island the size of Manhattan and fly it into orbit? Sorry but thats bullshit. Not to mention...look at how difficult stopping that 747 airliner was for him. But then again later in the movie he can launch entire islands into space. More BS. Sorry but the consistency just wasnt there as far as Im concerned. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: ahoythematey on July 03, 2006, 07:30:31 AM After seeing Jon Peters as the producer I just thought it was something of a miracle that I went through the whole movie without seeing a big-fucking-spider. As for the spoiler stuff, I'm wondering if Superman is more super as he bathes in more rays from our Sun, because that could help explain the swiss-cheese logic in that part, although I'm not saying it does.
SPOILER Honestly, though the inner geek in me is more concerned about the whole kid aspect. Didn't somebody on Singer's crew clue him in on Larry Niven's stuff? END SPOILER I loved the movie, warts and all. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Chenghiz on July 03, 2006, 08:03:31 AM About the Larry Niven thing:
Niven's main conjecture doesn't really work unless you consider ejactulation to be a voluntary muscle action. When he blinks there are no sonic booms, so his involuntary actions can either be controlled and slowed down, or aren't that strong to begin with. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: tazelbain on July 03, 2006, 08:19:21 AM The plot was fine. I still hate plastic man.
I hope they give him a non-lex enemy this time, someone who'd be a real challenge like the Justice Lords. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Llava on July 03, 2006, 08:23:40 AM Response to spoilery questions:
The entire island was not made of kryptonite. It had kryptonite pockets in it. Unfortunately, he walked directly over one of those pockets when confronting Lex and was weakened for it. When he got away, he bathed in the sun, which does make him stronger (read Grant Morrison's recent issues of All-Star Superman to see what happens when he gets right next to the sun) and drilled into the ground to avoid such close exposure to the kryptonite. Some radioactive pieces did grow near him, but by that point he was exiting the Earth's orbit. All he had to do was let go. Which he did. Then fainted. Regarding it being hard to stop the plain- it's not because he wasn't strong enough, it's because he was trying to be gentle so as not to kill everyone on the inside. See, he could've just grabbed the plane by the tail and stopped it mid-air, but it would've ripped in half and dumped out everyone. Remember how the tip of the plane collapsed in for a second, if he'd been much less gentle he could've ripped a hole right through the whole thing. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Broughden on July 03, 2006, 08:30:09 AM Response to Llava:
Yes but remember its the radioactive properties of Kryptonite which effect him, hence his need for a lead lined suit in the past. Having a few rocks between you and literal tons of Kryptonite isnt going to do anything to stop the radioactive energy from bombarding you...especially with a sliver inside. Hell we could argue back and forth as two geeks for weeks about this. I just found the whole thing cheesy. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Ironwood on July 03, 2006, 08:31:50 AM Superman is cheesy.
What the hell were you expecting ? Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Llava on July 03, 2006, 08:37:09 AM We're not just talking about having some rocks between him and the kryptonite. He was potentially miles away from any radiation before the end there, when it grew out around him. The sliver in him was likely temporarily counteracted by his bathing in the sun, but played a part in his near-death when he was exhausted and fell to the Earth. Chances are it wasn't enough to weaken him, but it was enough to stop him healing.
But you're right that we can go back and forth over this. I think it was at least, however, plausible. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: raydeen on July 03, 2006, 08:40:52 AM As for the spoiler stuff, I'm wondering if Superman is more super as he bathes in more rays from our Sun, because that could help explain the swiss-cheese logic in that part, although I'm not saying it does. I had this sick urge to yel 'BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRDMAN!' at the top of my lungs at that scene. :D Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: caladein on July 03, 2006, 12:02:44 PM Great movie, except I had to sit next to some 4 year old whose parents wouldn't shut him the fuck up. Ditto. Every damned time the soundtrack dropped to "dramatic silence" the sprog behind me yelled "MOMMY, IS THAT GUY DEAD?" or something. I just always tell them yes, yes he's dead Bobby. The moms always look at me funny though. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Samwise on July 03, 2006, 12:31:16 PM I'm wondering if Superman is more super as he bathes in more rays from our Sun I believe that's what they were oh-so-subtly hinting at, yes. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: ahoythematey on July 03, 2006, 03:50:45 PM What I meant was if Superman actually intensifies beyond his normal superness as he receives more exposure of our sunlight that isn't "diluted" by the earth's atmosphere while he flies in space. It seemed likely, but I haven't read that many superman comics as some.
Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Broughden on July 03, 2006, 04:55:14 PM What I meant was if Superman actually intensifies beyond his normal superness as he receives more exposure of our sunlight that isn't "diluted" by the earth's atmosphere while he flies in space. It seemed likely, but I haven't read that many superman comics as some. That would lead to people like myself asking...... Gee, he flew to the other side of the galaxy to search for his former home world? Huh...then why didnt he immediately die once he left our solar system and got beyond the range of our yellow sun? Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Abagadro on July 03, 2006, 04:56:55 PM He didn't fly there how he flies around here. He took a crystal ship like the one he used to get here as a baby.
Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Samwise on July 03, 2006, 05:07:39 PM Gee, he flew to the other side of the galaxy to search for his former home world? Huh...then why didnt he immediately die once he left our solar system and got beyond the range of our yellow sun? He carries a pretty decent charge. Otherwise he'd be powerless at night. Duh. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: schild on July 03, 2006, 05:09:14 PM I've always preferred this answer:
He's fucking Superman. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Broughden on July 03, 2006, 05:59:31 PM This is almost as geeky as arguing about science in Star Trek.....i love it.
Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Samwise on July 03, 2006, 06:47:35 PM Arguing about superhero abilities is an order of geek magnitude over Star Trek. It's up there with arguing about the physics of D&D spells.
Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Broughden on July 03, 2006, 09:51:45 PM Arguing about superhero abilities is an order of geek magnitude over Star Trek. It's up there with arguing about the physics of D&D spells. so that makes us like UBER geeks then right?!!? Okay back to arguing about Superman!Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: HaemishM on July 04, 2006, 10:43:34 AM Arguing about superhero abilities is an order of geek magnitude over Star Trek. It's up there with arguing about the physics of D&D spells. But not nearly as geeky as writing slash fan fiction depicting Kirk having sex with Spock and Harry Potter. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Ironwood on July 04, 2006, 12:52:53 PM Stop it, or someone'll break out the flowchart again.
Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Llava on July 04, 2006, 02:22:09 PM He does carry a pretty good charge (weeks or months, arguably, as he's been to other planets many times) but they decided not to touch on that and use the crystal ship thingy, which makes sense as he was gone for 5 years in this, and seemed quite weak when he returned until the next day.
Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Broughden on July 05, 2006, 07:29:11 AM Arguing about superhero abilities is an order of geek magnitude over Star Trek. It's up there with arguing about the physics of D&D spells. But not nearly as geeky as writing slash fan fiction depicting Kirk having sex with Spock and Harry Potter. must....not....google....resist.....temptation. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: HaemishM on July 05, 2006, 08:27:39 AM If that's a temptation, you really need to get out more.
Or be confined to a 6x9 and kept away from decent folk. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Xerapis on July 05, 2006, 08:31:27 AM Yeah, seriously.
Dude, I'm gay. And that is just....icky. Besides, they never should have had that episode where Spock was shirtless. Vulcans should be smooth, like elves or Asian boys. And before any of you say anything...NONE OF WHAT I JUST SAID IS AS DISTURBING AS DREAMING UP STAR TREK/HARRY POTTER SLASH FANFIC. IT'S JUST NOT. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Broughden on July 05, 2006, 10:56:47 AM Yeah, seriously. Dude, I'm gay. And that is just....icky. Dont worry I was posting sarcastically. My sense of humor just sucks, as Ive been told many many many times here. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Xerapis on July 05, 2006, 11:18:27 AM Yeah, seriously. Dude, I'm gay. And that is just....icky. Dont worry I was posting sarcastically. My sense of humor just sucks, as Ive been told many many many times here. ~insert large sigh of relief~ Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Broughden on July 07, 2006, 04:39:09 PM Superman plunging rapidly, faster than a speeding bullet...........at the box office. Discuss.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,202526,00.html Quote Superman: Dying for Real It may be all over for Superman this weekend. Bryan Singer’s “Superman Returns” took the biggest hit day to date from Tuesday to Wednesday this week, losing an astonishing 38.9 percent. This was the biggest drop on that day for any film in the top 10. “Superman Returns” has now limped to about $119 million since its opening 10 days ago. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: dusematic on July 07, 2006, 08:30:18 PM Jesus I like nerdy stuff as much as the next guy but having in depth analysis of the plausibility of Superman is a little too rad for me. I didn't really like the movie. I mean, I did because it was Superman, but I didn't really think it was that good. Singer gets too much credit. X-Men 3 was the best X-Men movie. Batman was decent, but really, who couldn't have made a sweet Batman movie with Christian Bayle?
Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: stray on July 07, 2006, 10:38:34 PM Finally saw it. Little long, but I thought it was OK. Not bad. Didn't read this entire thread, but if anyone said anything like "better than the originals" or "as good as" all I can say is
WRONG!!!!!11111 It had enough going for it to not make me sick, but I wouldn't care to see this again. While I and II are still as good as they were 25 years ago (a rare feat for anything sci-fi or comic book-y). Reeves was also a much better actor than Routh (he actually made the whole idea of Clark Kent believable. Routh was only good as Superman). Spacey didn't come off as faggy and decadent as I thought he would, but he can still kiss Gene Hackman's ass. Hmm...What else? Mrs Teschmacher > Kitty Otis > Kumar...? Zod That Pimp scene in Superman II Margot Kidder loses major points for the poetry sequence however. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: stray on July 08, 2006, 12:32:58 AM Silly me...
The pimp scene was in Superman I "Say Jim...Wooo!!! That's a bad outfit!" [edit] Pimpspeak is hard. Also: the kitty rescue scene. Little girl gets slapped at the end. Funny shit. Last thing I should mention is that Superman Returns seemed to copy lines from the other films. Kinda lame. For example, Lex's condescending banter with Miss Teschmacher was almost exactly the same as Kitty's (can't remember the exact line though). Same goes for the line about "flying" when Superman lets down the plane in this new one, compared to the scene when he rescued Lois from the helicopter in the first movie (..."statistically speaking, it's still the safest form of travel"). Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Llava on July 08, 2006, 09:46:48 AM Singer gets too much credit. X-Men 3 was the best X-Men movie. Batman was decent, but really, who couldn't have made a sweet Batman movie with Christian Bayle? There are four things wrong in the selected portion of your post. Each of them is wrong on a different level. 1) No, he doesn't get too much credit. The man consistently puts out good movies. 2) No, X-Men 2 was the best. X-Men 3 wasn't the piece of shit most people here claim it was, but it was certainly not the best. 3) Bryan Singer had nothing to do with Batman Begins. Nothing. 4) It's spelled Bale. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: stray on July 08, 2006, 10:19:51 AM He gets just a bit too much credit for Usual Suspects at least. That film isn't remarkable for it's direction. It's just right, don't get me wrong, but it isn't remarkable. What stands out is Del Toro, Spacey, and the Script. Christopher McQuarrie conceived of and wrote the thing. He invented Keyser fucking Soze. And few people ever mention him. He's been given very few opportunities afterwards as well (only one chance to direct his own film -- Way of the Gun).
Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Johny Cee on July 08, 2006, 03:53:08 PM He gets just a bit too much credit for Usual Suspects at least. That film isn't remarkable for it's direction. It's just right, don't get me wrong, but it isn't remarkable. What stands out is Del Toro, Spacey, and the Script. Christopher McQuarrie conceived of and wrote the thing. He invented Keyser fucking Soze. And few people ever mention him. He's been given very few opportunities afterwards as well (only one chance to direct his own film -- Way of the Gun). I like Way of the Gun. No one else seemed to.... The parking lot scene in the beginning, and having a badass Jimmy Caan running around, are the high points for me. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Llava on July 08, 2006, 11:38:24 PM I liked Way of the Gun, too. But I think I might be ever so slightly gay for Ryan Phillipe.
Not as gay as I am for Pitt or Depp, but it's there. I want to like him. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: stray on July 09, 2006, 01:43:14 AM Ryan Phillipe and Brad Pitt?
Just for future reference, if you're going to publicly admit to slight gayness, name someone that doesn't make you actually look overly gay :lol:. Y'know....Like Lee Marvin or the above mentioned James Caan. You can be totally gay for Lee Marvin, and not even amount to the "slightly gay" of having a thing for Ryan Phillipe. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Litigator on July 09, 2006, 03:20:06 AM Superman is kind of tough to make a good movie out of. He's a God from space, and I think that Singer was right to hit the "god" images rather than the traditional superhero type images. Superman floating in space listening to the worlds prayers for help was kind of a powerful image. Ultimately, Superman as a movie property has to be about God. Superman is God, and he is alone and isolated. His desire for Lois and the impossibility of reaching it brings out the point of Superman's otherness, alien-ness and solitude, and the fortress makes that point as well.
Lex is about the human desire for power and resentment towards those who have it. As benevolent as Superman tries to be, Lex hates him for being Superman, and will try to kill him. The cruelty that Lex and his goons displayed toward Superman was thought to be excessive, but it drives home the message. But this is really the sum-total of a two and a half hour movie, that was otherwise pretty empty. The movie felt hollow. The action sequences came off a bit flat, and the chemistry between Kate Bosworth and Brandon Routh was nonexistent, and simply didn't add up to a compelling motivation. Also, Routh more or less looked the part, but his attempts to act like Christopher Reeve made it painfully obvious that he is not Christopher Reeve. I appreciate the desire to pay homage in reintroducing the franchise, but why invite an unfavorable comparison? As for Brando, apparently, he shot a lot of footage for Superman 2, and then the studio cut him out of the movie to try to save money. This was part of the feud that led to the firing of Richard Donner and the hiring of Richard Lester to finish the movie. A Donner cut, including the never-seen Brando footage, is going to be released soon, so that will be much better than the computer-generated Brando in Superman Returns. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: stray on July 09, 2006, 03:22:30 AM Puzo touched on the "God" thing in original script as well. He admittedly borrowed all the Father/Only Son lines with Jor-El from the Gospels.
Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: sarius on July 09, 2006, 06:13:08 PM The island was really a distraction to me for the movie. I must more appreciated the tragedy of being Superman as a theme than another impossible Lex story.
One wonders, do advanced civilizations believe in passwords or what? Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Llava on July 10, 2006, 09:38:18 AM Ryan Phillipe and Brad Pitt? Just for future reference, if you're going to publicly admit to slight gayness, name someone that doesn't make you actually look overly gay :lol:. Y'know....Like Lee Marvin or the above mentioned James Caan. You can be totally gay for Lee Marvin, and not even amount to the "slightly gay" of having a thing for Ryan Phillipe. I think I'd rather be overly gay for Ryan Phillipe than slightly gay for Lee Marvin. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: stray on July 10, 2006, 11:07:20 AM Dude, Lee Marvin with an eyepatch is HOT.
Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Llava on July 10, 2006, 11:30:37 AM I don't know, I guess I just don't go for the silver guys. I need my men to look young and full of vitality. But maybe I just haven't seen the right guy yet.
(Plus he kind looks like Captain Murphy from Sealab. (http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/pics/movies/lee-marvin05.JPG) (http://photos1.blogger.com/img/298/5379/640/captain%20murphy.jpg)) Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: HaemishM on July 10, 2006, 12:00:49 PM And few people ever mention him. He's been given very few opportunities afterwards as well (only one chance to direct his own film -- Way of the Gun). Way of the Gun would be why. It wasn't a bad flick, but it was definitely one that would NEVER click with mainstream audiences. It's one of those movies I like, but can't figure out why. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: jpark on July 20, 2006, 09:07:41 AM I don't normally spring for hollywood chicks but boy - Kate Bosworth was a knock-out. Anyway - great flick.
Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: WindiaN on July 20, 2006, 09:17:06 AM was i the only one who laughed out loud when kumar came on screen?
Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: HaemishM on July 20, 2006, 09:45:05 AM was i the only one who laughed out loud when kumar came on screen? It took me a minute to figure out who he was, but yeah. I love that actor. Wish he'd had some more speaking lines. Title: Re: It's a bird, its a plane, its the Superman Returns thread. Post by: Slyfeind on July 22, 2006, 07:41:41 PM Damn. That's what I get for waiting until the last week to see this. The thread is already in The Gay.
Anyway, good film. I was hoping it would be OMG THE BEST EVER FOREVER AND EVER and like, headlines in newspapers all over the world saying "Superman Sinks Titanic!!!" in terms of money made, and suddenly the Taliban thinks it should chill out because they saw Superman and would be all like "Any people that makes Superman Returns must be good." And...yeah. All that shit. But as it stands, it was a good way to kick off a new/old franchise. I want to see a sequel. The opening credits were worth the price of admission. Then ten minutes of story, followed by an hour of homage and tribute and in-jokes, and the rest of the movie picks up the story again. And that's cool, I was hoping for the tributes and homages, and totally loved the copied phrases and tableaus. I thought it pretty blatant at that one part, that Superman was soaking up and storing Yellow Sun Maximum Power!!11!! Kind of a bummer that Superman didn't serve a bit of whoop-ass to Lex and his thugs. But overall, I think Brian Synger and company need to take a break. They're still on good form, but their work is starting to seem a little rushed. |