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You can't blame me for this one, Haemish spotted it first.  I hadn't heard of it or, at least, took no notice until they sent me an invite today.  I am "betatester_0"... how about that!  (I just replied to the beta invite email:  "FIRST!"  I couldn't help it.

http://www.cabalonline.com/

Play it.  You know you want to.  It'll be... umm... fun?

Dear Signe:

You are evil.  Or I am bored.  Either way, I applied too.  We'll see what happens :P

Korean.  From ESTsoft Corp. which seems to make anything.  My next test MMO is Wurm.

The one where you can burn yourself up in your own campfire?  Cool.

Considering the google ads at the top are pimping www.nightlifeinteractive.net i feel you should go give up your beta_0 status and go check that out.  Sounds right up your alley Feet.

Xilren

Nah, I looked and it appears to be more rubbish from Asia.  They sure like everyone to look the same, too, don't they?  As usual, nearly no character customisation, although it's not as bad as Lineage. 

check out what else ESTCorp does.  Yes, this seems to be their first game.  But they have a catalogue of other widgets.

It's ESTsoft but I did find it and dl'd this so I would be ready for St. Patty's day next time!  yay!

(http://www.altools.net/Portals/0/images/Green_Beer_200x150.gif)

I'm always up for more asian gibberish.

I signed up for theBeta. I'm not sure what I am getting myself into.

I'll sign up once I bother to access my hotmail account and verify my acct status.

It seems that to kill the bunnies right outside the warrior town, you must die several time and then make sure you attack the same bunny as it's hps will get lower and lower.  Sheesh... I made a warrior so I could insta-kill bunnies!  I lasted 15 minutes.

Bunnies - 9 

Me - 0

http://www.alllooksame.com/

They should have named this one: Pretty boys with swords. 

I'll just never understand the association of cute with hack-someone-apart-with-a-pointy-weapon.  Avatars should be grizzled... they should look like they've actually had blood on their hands without rushing to wash it off.  Noone should wear puffy shirts! EVER!

I scored a six, to be fair I can't imagine that anyone would be able to score better on a similar quiz with white people asking if they were French/German/English/Russian ok perhaps a tiny bit better who knows...

I thought the NA beta hadn't started yet everyone is already getting ahead of me in the grind?!!  OH NOES!

Unless you're Raphael David Bowie from Soul Calibur.

I think I got a 9 on the asian quiz...though when I got the answers, some of my mistakes were glaringly obvious ofr some reason, when I looked back over the pictures and connected the people with their "real" ethnicity.

Wow, I got a 12. I expected to do much worse than that.

Quick, someone come up with another derail for this thread!

Asian insecurity about all looking alike for the win.  I can't tell a German from a Frenchman either, unless I can hear them talk.

I got the Japanese people right. Except for one. I mean really, I can't tell Africans (as in actual people from africa) apart from eachother either. Or people from the pile of countries in eastern Europe. What's it prove? Lack of Exposure. Or perhaps a rack of exposure.

Um...

Higurashi no Naku Koro ni episode 12 is not out yet, and that makes me a sad panda.

(I'm not very good at pre-meditated derails)

See, now, if it was pictures of various Asian boobs, I'd get 100%.

Or perhaps people from the same geographic region don't somehow magically look different just because they drew a border somewhere and took up different languages.

*GASP*

NO WAI!!11!

I demand someone find a quiz of this nature for any ethnicity GoGoGo!@!!

P.S.  This game has already brought me more fun then DDO, god MMO's suck these days.

Nothing makes you hate ramen more than occasionally having a nice steak.

I did awful, but I'm pretty good in real life at telling the difference.

Between what?  I have forgotten what this thread is about.

Asian boobs.

Ann Coulter and Hitler?

Well I applied and got a script error on the website, but then got into the beta forum!!!

So if I understand this correctly they are currently accepting anyone/everyone?

I don't know, 5150, I don't read their forums but I haven't met anyone who has applied and not been accepted so... I'd guess yes!

The picture on the synopsis page has Yuna, Lulu, some guy from FFTA, The Crow, a hobbit, the bad guy from FFXII, a tall dwarf, Sephiroth, an angel, Saruman, and someone from Shadowhearts.  They are apparently not going to be niche.

I haven't recieved a beta invite yet.  :|

Maybe they stopped at a certain point?  I don't know... you are literally the first person I've seen who hasn't received one.  Try again with a different email or something?  Anyway, this game is SO much like Lineage it gives me ancient flashbacks.  I am very nearly almost sort of enjoying myself.  Tons of loot, lotsa money, so many monsters that no one has to fight for them... at least early on.  If it continues to mimic Lineage, there will be camping special mobs at some point.  It's so Lineagey that I'm tempted to call the mobs, mops.   :-P

I signed up too 2 days after your post and haven't gotten an invite either. Word of mouth must have spread pretty fast, or they have a small population threshhold. That, or they took the weekend off. Damned non-americans, bunch of slackers (yes, I'm kidding).

How's the questing?

Don't know yet about questing.  I've only just started to play and have only done intro quests, things like go around and meet everyone, go kill 4 thingys, go visit some other town, etc.  I'm expecting the game to start feeling like the dark side of Lineage any time now... sooper dooper grind, special mob camping, all that sort of thing, and then the fun factor probably disappears.  I'll be surprised if it doesn't happen fairly soon.

Good lord!  I think I've become cynical and jaded!

Total shit.

Geez, it feels more and more like Lineage.  I bet I can even delevel in this game!  Woo hoo!

So I got accepted.  Eep!

But the link they sent me to...isn't a link or something.  It says "CLICK HERE" but there's nothing to click on.

Not a very inspiring beginning.

Actually, since those borders have been around for so long, it definitely is a factor. Especially with Japan. Which, for the most part, is secluded from the rest of continent.

Chinese and Koreans do tend to have a more yellow tint. Japanese vary from tan to very pale, but not yellow. While Thai's and other southern Asians are darker and reddish brown. Japanese have slightly longer upper lip areas. Chinese tend to be have more round, soft features. Koreans tend to have a bigger jaw area (and just squarish features in general), while many Thai's have high, pronounced cheekbones like Native Americans. Chinese eyes are more small and ovalish, Koreans very squinty, Japanese very angular. Japanese men are among the only Asians who can grow full beards as well.

Not to say all of this is written in stone, especially when it comes to areas where there is a lot of cross breeding. In Bangkok, for example, they have a huge Chinese-Thai population. Most of the people who run businesses, restaurants, etc (whom tourists are probably the most exposed to) are of this type -- And so in turn, outsiders mistake them as Thai. Many who are in the states running Thai restaurants are usually Chinese-Thai's as well.

Now I know more about all those other people than I know about me. 

What kind of lips to Scanditalians have?  Maybe I should refer to myself as a wopegian, instead.  I don't know.  You didn't say anything about ears, by the way.

You can probably make those same sorts of generalizations about British and French as well, but I still can't tell them apart by sight alone.  Not unless you stack Prince Charles up against some dude in a beret.

(http://www.fco.gov.uk/Files/kimage/DSC00054.JPG)

Ou est le rosbif?

It's easier if they're side by side.  The German will be wearing some sort of uniform, and the Frenchman will be telling the German he's kept his room just as he likes it.

I saw that on an episode of Chef! once but I thought it was just an absurd fake joke.  Do the French really call British people roast beef like everyone else calls them frogs?

I got accepted into beta today! Yay! Of course, they gave me a link to their forums for the client download which doesn't work. Isn't this at least the 2nd day running that the link is broken? They can't fix a simple html link to a bit torrent client, so I worry about the rest of the game, regardless of design and 'fun' factor.

Yeah, exactly.

I mean, I apply for your beta.

I get accepted.

I'm interested, ready to test and report.

BUT YOUR FUCKING LINK TO DOWNLOAD YOUR FUCKING BETA DOESN'T FUCKING WORK!

THIS IS SIMPLE SHIT, Y'ALL.  FIX YOUR SHIT!

Really, you're better off for not playing it.

Oui.

Once again Righ, your Google-fu amazes me. Good day sir.

I've encountered a super strange bug in the setup executable of this client. I cannot delete it! The self-extracting file downloaded from the site extracts to a folder with the actual set up files. These then install the game. I played the game for a while, then logged out.

I went to delete the original compressed executable, called CabalSetup060620_1.exe. It won't let me! It says the application is being used by another process or user! Ok, fine, wierdness, I can handle that. I reboot the computer and bring it up in safemode, without networking. It still won't let me delete the danged thing! Anyone have any clues about this?

I assume you checked the properties to make sure the file wasnt locked?

I'm not sure where one would find such an attribute on a file of this type. I've never heard of 'locking' a file in Windows. If you mean Read-Only flag, or an archive bit, then no, it doesn't have such a flag. It merely states that the file is being used elsewhere.

Engels,

Reading through their forums it seems there are numerous problems with the game's files. For a lot of people the game is setting off their virus protection software and a lot are getting warnings of a trojan when trying to install the game.

Some people have reported problems with deleting certain files connected to the game, namely anything with a .tmp extension. Although I didn't see any mention of your specific problem, the reccomended solution to deleting the .tmp files is: You must boot into Safe Mode-DOS prompt, and then delete the files through DOS. Perhaps doing the same will allow you to delete the .exe set up file?


This game didnt seem very interesting to me, so I wasnt going to try it anyway. But having read through their forums and the reported problems with the game (such as the difficulty in deleting game files) I would warn any F13 member against down loading and installing this game.


If the method described above doesnt work for you check this thread I created on the problem, perhaps someone will have better advice-
http://www.cabalonline.com/forum/showthread.php?p=54013#post54013

Thanks for taking some time with this Broughen, it was very nice of you. Honest here, not being a jerk. I solved the problem simply by booting up my alternate hard drive that has another OS on it. The original hd is attatched as a simple data drive slave device, so deleteing the file was as simple as navigating to the desktop folder of my slave drive and deleting it.

I still have no idea how that happened.

It happens to me too with seemingly random files. I think it's a sort of spontaeous "with love from Microsoft" thing.

I keep Cygwin on my machine so that I can use the "rm" command to get rid of files that the Windows command prompt won't let me delete. It unlinks them unix-style. It is annoying that I have to emulate a totally different OS to get crap game installs to delete, but that is my main use for it (also worked for AO back in the bad old beta days).

I found a handy guide:

http://howtospotajap.ytmnsfw.com/

Bad example, as Charlie-boy is half-Greek, (mostly) half-German.

Well, people like to call the British royals German, but the Queen, paternally, is as much German or Euro-anything as most of the European royal families.  She goes back quite far maternally, however, with English and Scot.  It hardly matters.  They're all inbred.  My family in Norway is pretty inbred, too.  It's a wonder they just have floppy ears now and then, and not pin heads and albinos.  Of course, the albino pinhead royals could just be hidden away or muted at birth.  Prince Philip, however, was born in Greece.

That's about as accurate as calling Francis Rossi an Italian.

I don't know much about Windows, but anything you can't delete means it's hooked itself into the registry either to depend on something else always running (like explorer) or it has spawned a process that is always running. Yes, what malware does.  Chances are with a crappy auto-downloader/installer, there's a thread that is never closing its connection, so it keeps spinning (and this is why it thinks it needs the tmp file -- because it doesn't know the install has fully written yet).  In any case, it's bad news.  Do what Broughden said and walk the hell away.

I like it when people try to get back on topic in hopeless threads.

Not albino, but the Windsors and their immediate family have a ruthless approach when it comes to hiding away the family problems.  The Queen Mother (gawd bless'er etc) had two nieces, Katherine and Nerissa, who were severely mentally handicapped, and who were locked away in a state-run asylum for the rest of their lives in 1941 (Katherine was still alive, and still locked away, in 2002).  These kids were first cousins of the current queen.

In a pretty jarring note, the hilarious Bowes-Lyons family made a delightful ugly sisters joke, by calling their younger, healthy daughter Diana Cinderella Bowes-Lyon.  They very neatly excised the two from the family, avoiding awkward questions about mad relatives of the reigning Queen, by declaring Nerissa as having died in 1940's Burke's Peerage.  Katherine was similarly "disappeared" in the 1962 edition. Reference (http://www.sundayherald.com/23673), Other (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerissa_Bowes-Lyon) references (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Bowes-Lyon)

I'd go on - George VI had a similarly mentally handicapped brother who was similarly hidden away (and who really died young, this time, of epilepsy), but it's not really on-topic.  Makes me glad to be a republican.

Apparently, the Cabal folks have IP banned America. It's probably a precursor to a nuclear strike, or something. In the meantime, there's always HTTP-Tunnel and Proxy Cap (http://www.http-tunnel.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=1924).

Good info Righ. But I do hafta wonder about why anyone would work that hard to play this game. Will anyone miss it?

Not many in the west will probably miss it, although it seems to be somewhat popular in Europe.  It just annoyed me that I beta tested it for a couple of weeks and then they locked me out.  I had all but wandered off the beta test when they locked me out.  That annoyed me.  Now I can not log in on my own terms, if I like!

So there.

No, they are just doing us a favor.