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IVF clinic forced to close after running out of sperm (http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=826812006)

I say we meet up in Scotland in August.

What say you?

'Only one active donor in Scotland.'

Time to raid Scotland's Teenage bedrooms on Kleenex runs.

Wow, that one guy could wind up having hundreds of children.

As to the law forcing clinics to give information on the fathers I thought Scotland went semi-independent in the 90s.  I guess they haven't given themselves the right to strike down some of the more asinine laws from England?

Sad to say, but we probably wouldn't.  We have a more responsible view of these things than England does...

I always wished people seeking fertility treatment would seek to adopt instead.  We already have children in need of a home.

If you've got kids then you already understand the subtle psychological difference between seeing your kid and everyone else's.  It's what makes cleaning up puke, shit and messes they make tolerable.   It takes a rare individual to overcome that, rarer than most adoption proponents think about.  Not to mention the feeling of failure as a person if you're so broken that you can't even do one of nature's most basic functions, reproduce.

Plus, y'know, most of them are the wrong color.

Ouch.

I understand the psychology behind it, but still think it is silly.  Of course I don't have that whole desire to breed thing going, so it is a little easier for me to see past the irrational bits that makes people spend tens of thousands for fertility treatment.

At least Ironwood gets my jabs.

I got the jabs, too.  I just didn't acknowledge them because there is too much truth to them to be comfortable with.

A lot of these kids tend to have behavioural problems as well, especially those that are a year old or more when adopted.  They have been raised in a different environment than the average kid, and it often shows.  And from what I have seen with my own eyes, those adopting seem too often ill-equipped to deal with these problems....especially when the parents are a bit older than average.

Even so, I think adopting a child is about the noblest thing a person can do.

Having been adopted, if I ever decide to deal with raising a child, it's the way I'll go. Return the favor, whatnot.

I want to print up some stickers saying "If you haven't adopted a kid, you're part of the problem" and slap it on al the assholes with anti-abortion stickers. I get a strong urge to punch a motherfucker who says adoption is a solution to abortion, but doesn't adopt kids. Put up or shut up imo.

I dunno about you, Sky, but I only see abortion protesters in the 'burbs around here.   The same place I see the anti-abortion billboards and bumperstickers.  Never see it in the ghetto. See my earlier snarky remarks.  These are the same people freaking out that whites will be a minority in 5 years, and trying to figure out what to do.

Asian, black and latino kids are far cuter than pasty white children. That is my intellectual contribution to this thread.

Do they require donors to pass some sort of test?

No idea.  Judging by the high numbers it's probably something hard like refusing a drink...

Heh.

It is more the anonymity thing that is scaring folks off. I don't mind- I even have a Scottish last name, so I will fit right in!

Ironwood, I am gonna need a ride from the airport and a lot of Gatorade. And maybe an ice pack for the boys when I am done.

You forgot a fast Internet connection.

Naw, you just need to use a DVD burner beforehand.

Then you're SOL.  We don't have Gatorade.  I have no idea what the fuck Gatorade even is, tho I would imagine I'd put it in my car to help the engine.

:(

How about Powerade?

Heh, I was able to get both while in fucking Italy.

Heh. It is a sports drink that replaces electrolytes after furious exertion. I am guessing they use beer in Scotland, which works for me as well  :-D

Irn Bru for Teh Win.

I see that they have an "energy drink" variation of Irn Bru (that has even more caffeine) now. Humour me, how much does a wee can of Irn Bru 32 cost down at Galbraiths? Wait... Lows, um Templetons, er Liptons, ah Presto, oh Morrisons, hmm Safeway?

The sort of drink that these folks are looking for is Lucozade. Ew.

We weren't allowed to adopt because of my wife's health.  They let us foster teenage kids, though.  Not always as simple as it seems.

Damn no shit?

Now I have to adjust my worldview.  Dammit.

Damn I just laughed out loud. (For real yo!) "Not always as simple as it seems!" I don't think I could last 2 hours doing that. More power to you.

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40 degrees - Californians shiver uncontrollably.
People in Scotland sunbathe.

35 degrees - Italian cars won't start.
People in Scotland drive with the windows down.

20 degrees - Floridians wear coats, gloves, and wool hats.
People in Scotland throw on a T-shirt.

15 degrees - Californians begin to evacuate the state.
People in Scotland go swimming in the sea.

0 degrees - New York landlords turn the heat on.
People in Scotland have a last barby before it gets cold.

-10 degrees - People in Miami are extinct.
People in Scotland lick flagpoles.

-20 degrees - Californians all now live in Mexico.
People in Scotland throw on a light jacket.

-80 degrees - Polar bears begin to evacuate the Artic.
Scottish Boy Scouts postpone winter survival excercise until it gets cold
enough.

-100 degrees - Santa Claus abandons the North Pole.
People in Scotland wear a vest and pull down their ear flaps.

-173 degrees - Ethyl alcohol freezes.
People in Scotland are angry 'cos they can't thaw their whisky kegs.

-297 degrees - Microbial life starts to grind to a halt.
Scottish cows complain of farmers with cold hands.

-460 degrees - ALL atomic motion stops.
People in Scotland start saying " A bit hill billy ... eh? "

-500 degrees - Hell freezes over.
Scottish people support England in the World Cup

That's because you're drunk. You can handle the lower temperatures because you're always heating up. Let's not confuse the issues here. You'll still get hypothermia and DIE.

Oh, it was a joke. I like -173 degrees.

My in-laws have a huge old house in Dunoon.  It's lovely there.  When we go for Christmas, I'm cold constantly.  It doesn't matter how many layers of clothing I wear, I shiver all the time.  We use electric blankets at night and I'm still cold.  It's not a normal cold, either.  It's an evil cold, scary and invasive and you can feel it inside your bones.  The only way to escape it is to leave Scotland.

In Lords Of Midnight, the Ice-fear that the Witch King sent rolling over the plains came straight from a portal in his castle that linked to Edinburgh.

Fact.

I should move to Scotland. I love cold, cloudy days.

I also don't understand your funky non-american temperature scale!

Don't make us bomb you.

You don't understand Fahrenheit?

That's true… NY landlords don't turn the heat on at 32ºF.

This is inaccurate. Californians - at least, in SoCal - think 65 degrees is "arctic". Thin-bloods, they are.

Me too.  It was pretty nice when I was there, getting down to 12 when I was in Edinburgh for some reason.  Maybe because the queen was there the day before.  I think it was colder in Edinburgh than Kirkwall (Orkney).

It's always colder in Edinburgh.  Than ANYWHERE.

As for the Glasgow and the Clyde Estuary, that's warm by Scottish standards. North Atlantic Drift and all that. Palm nuts wash up along the shore, resulting in seaside towns with rows of palm trees along the shore. Don't think of white sandy beaches or anything - rocks and oil slicks are more our thing. There's some sand down in Ayr, where the forecast for tomorrow is rain.

Paradoxically, the biggest temperature pansies I know are from the midwestern/eastern US.  In summer they complain that it's too cold, and in winter they complain that it's too warm.

Hehe that thing is also overestimating floridians tolerance for cold. I was down there once and they had wind chill warnings and it was all of 42F outside. Thats windbreaker weather at best in wisconsin. Many would still be sporting shorts if its 42 our.


kaid

When I was driving for a courier company I put snow chains on my truck while wearing shorts. Cold doesn't really bother me much.

Don't be so sure, WAP.  Elderly men, such as yourself, sometimes don't feel the cold.  One minute you're putting snow chains on their truck while wearing shorts and the next thing you know... POOF!... you're dead.

Stay off my lawn!

Which is a lot worse than POOF, you're a homosexual.

I still find it amusing that the only day my college ever closed due to weather it was because it was so cold that you physically could not make it from the parking lot to the doors without getting frostbite on exposed skin.

kaid