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Title: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Sky on June 01, 2006, 01:34:33 PM
According to the president of one of a bajillion subSonys (http://www.gamespot.com/news/6152133.html) (actually president of Sony Computer Entertainment's Worldwide Studios).
Quote from: Harrison
"We believe that the PS3 will be the place where our users play games, watch films, browse the Web, and use other [home] computer functions," said Harrison. "The PlayStation 3 is a computer. We do not need the PC."
After I lolled, I thought money should go where hype went: cancel the VAIO line.




...yeah, I thought so.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Miasma on June 01, 2006, 02:04:28 PM
But I thought the PS2 already replaced the PC? (http://archives.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/02/01/emotion.engine.idg/)


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: tazelbain on June 01, 2006, 02:09:27 PM
LOL, Sony.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: HaemishM on June 01, 2006, 02:16:13 PM
They really are redefining the term assclown.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Fabricated on June 01, 2006, 02:20:27 PM
Sony's hype machine sucks.

The PS3 will still sell like fucking crazy though.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Signe on June 01, 2006, 03:59:07 PM
It was all a fad, I knew it.  Good.  I'll be glad to see computers go.  They've been nothing but a big pain in the arse.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: stray on June 01, 2006, 04:25:29 PM
Sony's got the right idea though. It'll happen sooner or later (just not with the PS3).


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Brolan on June 01, 2006, 08:13:23 PM
Sony's hype machine sucks.

The PS3 will still sell like fucking crazy though.

Yes, at first.  Then it will run into a wall of price resistance that dwarfs the Great Wall of China.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Merusk on June 01, 2006, 08:20:23 PM
"No really, it's worth $600 because it replaces your PC!  That's why it costs so much!  It's ok!"

This has been 30 seconds of reading the subliminal.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Strazos on June 01, 2006, 09:17:00 PM
Once again, Sony is fucking retarded. What are they smoking/injecting/huffing/snorting? And are whores involved?


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Kenrick on June 02, 2006, 05:25:49 AM
Wasn't it Sony Pictures that had to create nonexistant film critics to "give themselves good reviews" and splash their fake quotes onto newspaper ads?  Yeahhh...  assclowns indeed.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Roac on June 02, 2006, 06:02:56 AM
More importantly, it could provide the processing power for the PlayStation 2 to challenge cheap PCs as the entry-level device of choice for home access to the Web... blah blah...the processor can handle 6.2 gigaflops at 300MHz. blah

Quote from: Other Useless Link
Blah blah..."The PlayStation 3 is a computer. We do not need the PC."

Show me the keyboard and mouse first, bitch.  It's not about processing power; I can get on the net just fine with a P3, plus run most non-gaming applications without incident.  Let me send an email.  Or type on a message board.

Haemish, we need some creative cursing.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Cyrrex on June 02, 2006, 06:12:35 AM
Don't stop there...let us swap out the graphics card, upgrade the RAM, or add on non-propriety devices that we don't have to pay out the ass for.  Etcetera.

Just the simple lack of compatibility of devices and the inability to upgrade and keep the machines bleeding edge will keep consoles from taking the places of PCs.  No matter what fancy things they can make them do.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Dren on June 02, 2006, 08:25:23 AM
Cool.  I can create spreadsheets, work on my resume, manage my budget, manage my forums on my webspace, log into work when I want, create solid models, and play around with my CG creation software on a electronic device that is primary made to play side scrollers and 3d fighting games/sports?  That is truly amazing.

I am filled with awesome.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Tebonas on June 02, 2006, 08:30:02 AM
My computer already feels obsolete, he eyes the windows. I think he gonna jump down to his doom when I'm not lucking.

Damn Sony.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Sky on June 02, 2006, 08:50:01 AM
Sony's got the right idea though. It'll happen sooner or later (just not with the PS3).
I wonder how our Board would react to a request for 50 new PS3s. I'm quite sure the public would like them, but it might be tough getting our monthly reports in on time.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Mr_PeaCH on June 02, 2006, 11:56:35 AM
The PS3 or the PSP?

According to the Fox News report I just read over on Lum's site I can use the PSP to download porn FROM THIN AIR!  Good enough for me.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: UD_Delt on June 02, 2006, 12:04:47 PM
In other news...

Microsoft reneges on backwards compatability.

http://www.xboxaddict.com/news/view.php?News_ID=7031

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Microsoft VP Peter Moore may be taking on the role of the fat lady and singing backward compatibility a fond farewell in a video interview available today on gaming website Kikizo.

"Nobody is concerned anymore about backwards compatibility." Moore said. "We under promised and over delivered on that. It’s a very complicated thing... very complex work. I’m just stunned that we have hundreds of games that are backwards compatible. More are coming, but at some point, you just go, there’s enough, let’s move on, or people aren’t as worried about a game being backwards compatible -- and I like to think we’ve upheld our end of the bargain in making at least two or maybe three hundred games backwards compatible."


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Merusk on June 02, 2006, 12:43:28 PM
Microsoft Exec:  The PS3 costs HOW much?  Hahahhaha.  Axe that compatability bullshit, we don't have to compete with them anymore.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Strazos on June 02, 2006, 10:44:57 PM
Microsoft Exec:  The PS3 costs HOW much?  Hahahhaha.  Axe that compatability bullshit, we don't have to compete with them anymore.

lol


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Hanzii on June 07, 2006, 03:19:14 PM
Of course the fact that the subject is referring to something he didn't say and the very first quote is taken out of context shouldn't stop you.

He's answerring a very specific question (http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzkultur/0,1518,418642,00.html) about his reaction to Microsoft extending Live to the pc - and answers that since the PS3 has built in webbrowser (a proper browser that can search the entire internet not just some Sony hosted subsite) and fully supports USB keyboards, they (meaning Sony) don't need the pc (as a platform for their online service).

Apart from that the interview is just a rehash of the wellknown marketing bulletpoints. Apart from saying, that the lack of HDMI on the "cheap" PS3 won't be a problem. At least not until 2010 which is the date set by the Blu-Ray consortium when all Blu-Ray playback capable devices must have HDMI. Until that time the size of Blu-Ray movies is the only copy protection needed (a 50 GB movie is a bit much to download, he says.)

And if you want to do the "LOLZERZ teh PS3 is too expensive"- gags, you gotta be realistic about it. The comparable pricepoint (to the Xbox 360) is $499 not $599. The "cheap" version of the PS3 compares favorably to the 360 Premium not the Core. Sure it still a hundred bucks, which is a lot when people allready considered the Xbox expensive, but it's not a $200 difference and you're retarded for repeating that.



Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Hanzii on June 07, 2006, 03:22:23 PM
Of course the fact that the subject is referring to something he didn't say and the very first quote is taken out of context shouldn't stop you.

He's answerring a very specific question (http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzkultur/0,1518,418642,00.html) about his reaction to Microsoft extending Live to the pc - and answers that since the PS3 has built in webbrowser (a proper browser that can search the entire internet not just some Sony hosted subsite) and fully supports USB keyboards, they (meaning Sony) don't need the pc (as a platform for their online service).

Apart from that the interview is just a rehash of the wellknown marketing bulletpoints. Apart from saying, that the lack of HDMI on the "cheap" PS3 won't be a problem. At least not until 2010 which is the date set by the Blu-Ray consortium when all Blu-Ray playback capable devices must have HDMI. Until that time the size of Blu-Ray movies is the only copy protection needed (a 50 GB movie is a bit much to download, he says.)

And if you want to do the "LOLZERZ teh PS3 is too expensive"- gags, you gotta be realistic about it. The comparable pricepoint (to the Xbox 360) is $499 not $599. The "cheap" version of the PS3 compares favorably to the 360 Premium not the Core. Sure it still a hundred bucks, which is a lot when people allready considered the Xbox expensive, but it's not a $200 difference and you're retarded for repeating that.

Oh, and one of the repeated bullets is a promise of close to 100% backward compatability (the PS2 chip built in is what most believes) - but of course, nobody cares about BC according to Microsoft...


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: schild on June 07, 2006, 03:41:47 PM
Ok, I'm about to stick up for the po' man, which is something I never ever do. So listen closely:

It doesn't matter if the PS3 is WORTH $600. It doesn't matter if the technology is WORTH what they're charging. November is not tax season. There are no November windfalls. Mainstream America can not AFFORD a $600 gaming system at launch without incredible gaming support (which it won't have - riiiiiiiiiiiidge racer). Japan doesn't matter. Europe doesn't matter. AMERICA MATTERS. And AMERICA can not afford a PS3 and those than CAN afford a PS3 in America (mind you, first shipment always has and always will sell out - so we're talking shipments after early adopters are done), will probably buy a 360 AND Wii before they buy a PS3.

You can be as rational as you want about the pricing scheme. The fucking system could give the best blowjobs in the world. $600 would still be too much for an entertainment device. These aren't people buying electrostats to listen to their jpop albums. These are gamers. They have shitty TVs for the most part and shitty taste in entertainment. They also live paycheck to paycheck. It PAINS ME to say that Nintendo just won a console war by being lazy with technological advancement, but they did.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Hanzii on June 07, 2006, 05:36:39 PM
Two mistakes.
It's $500 not $600,
Japan matters. A lot.

But you're right. It's too damn expensive - even more so in Europe, which is a smaller market with less money to spend on these things on average (and the price will be higher). Nintendo winning? I'm not so sure yet Blu-Ray and marketing still matters a lot ouside the hardcore who reads boards like this - the average buyer believes that the PS3 may be the most powerfull doodah ever and if Sony can convince them (mainly Americans with HDTVs) that they need Blu-Ray, they're cooking. If they can lower cost and then prices after the initial 6 million run which will sell out even if Harrison personally takes a dump in every box, they're really cooking.
Lots of maybes and not as cool as hard predictions that nobody will care to remember anyway when proven wrong.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Righ on June 07, 2006, 05:51:36 PM
Actually, I think that the problem is Blu-Ray. Yes, its going to be the dog's doodads, but other companies just don't trust Sony with media formats any more. There's very little buy-in, especially on the hardware side, and that's why Sony must sell lots of PS3s for lots of money. They success of Blu-Ray depends on the success of PS3. The problem that Sony has on its hands is that success of the PS3 in Japan alone is not enough to save Blu-Ray, and with HD-DVD as another option, people don't need an expensive PS3.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Miasma on June 07, 2006, 07:04:48 PM
I would have bought a PS3 regardless of price a couple of years ago, but not now.  With all of the controversies and problems Sony has had recently I really just don't like them anymore.  I sort of hope Nintendo comes out on top now, I'll root for the underdog.

Although in the end I really don't care about the price since apparently Canadians get them for free.

(http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7963/scamps39rs.gif)

I have already filled out the form asking for my name, address and social insurance number so now I just have to wait for it to be delivered, suckers.  I'm not sure why I had to enter in all that info about my credit cards and bank account numbers but I'm sure it is all legit, people on the internet are very honest.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Hanzii on June 07, 2006, 10:50:19 PM
Actually, I think that the problem is Blu-Ray. Yes, its going to be the dog's doodads, but other companies just don't trust Sony with media formats any more. There's very little buy-in, especially on the hardware side, and that's why Sony must sell lots of PS3s for lots of money. They success of Blu-Ray depends on the success of PS3. The problem that Sony has on its hands is that success of the PS3 in Japan alone is not enough to save Blu-Ray, and with HD-DVD as another option, people don't need an expensive PS3.

What do you mean by buy-in?
Blu-Ray definately has the strongest backing this time around on both hardware and content. The price of a player seems to be the important issue now, but it looks like  a standalone HD-DVD player will cost as much as the PS3. So if that's a decent player the choice will be between a Blu-Ray player/console (sorry Sony - entertainment center) and a standalone HD-DVD (or a noisy Xbox with an addon that will make it more expensive than the Blu-Ray playing PS3).

Now the question is, can Sony & co. convince the market, that they need HD players, when most are happy with DVD?


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Velorath on June 07, 2006, 11:08:21 PM
What do you mean by buy-in?
Blu-Ray definately has the strongest backing this time around on both hardware and content. The price of a player seems to be the important issue now, but it looks like  a standalone HD-DVD player will cost as much as the PS3. So if that's a decent player the choice will be between a Blu-Ray player/console (sorry Sony - entertainment center) and a standalone HD-DVD (or a noisy Xbox with an addon that will make it more expensive than the Blu-Ray playing PS3).

Now the question is, can Sony & co. convince the market, that they need HD players, when most are happy with DVD?

I'm not even convinced I need an HDTV, at least not for another couple years.  It's going to be pretty hard to convince me I need Blu-ray.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Roac on June 07, 2006, 11:28:31 PM
I'm not even convinced I need an HDTV, at least not for another couple years.  It's going to be pretty hard to convince me I need Blu-ray.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: eldaec on June 07, 2006, 11:34:47 PM
So if that's a decent player the choice will be between a Blu-Ray player/console (sorry Sony - entertainment center) and a standalone HD-DVD (or a noisy Xbox with an addon that will make it more expensive than the Blu-Ray playing PS3).

The people who will buy blu-ray players first (and the only people who will buy at all at $600) are enthuisiasts. Enthisiasts do not buy convergence devices, and gamers don't give a rats ass if the games console they want happens to play blu-rays badly, on the other hand the home-cinema junkie definitely will not be playing films on a games console.

Unless Sony acheive a first-time-ever marketing coup, the convergence argument is only remotely relevant in the sub $300 world.

People with nice televisions do not watch dvds on a PS2 - because it's a horrible dvd player if you have a nice TV. The same situation will arise on blu-ray. If you are budgeting in the $600 per component range you don't give a shit about convergence. And for that matter you probably don't buy budget brands like Sony.

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I'm not even convinced I need an HDTV, at least not for another couple years.

I'm utterly convinced I *want* an HDTV. It's a couple of years before it's affordable is all.



Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Der Helm on June 08, 2006, 12:34:02 AM
Once again, Sony is fucking retarded. What are they smoking/injecting/huffing/snorting? And are whores involved?
Are you thinking what I am thinking ? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syphilis) (might not be save for work ?)


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If not treated, syphilis can cause serious effects such as damage to the nervous system, heart, or brain. Untreated syphilis can be fatal.
bold = emphasis mine


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Strazos on June 08, 2006, 05:34:46 AM
 :rimshot:


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Sky on June 08, 2006, 07:04:31 AM
I'm not even convinced I need an HDTV, at least not for another couple years.  It's going to be pretty hard to convince me I need Blu-ray.
Oh, you knew this was coming:
(http://home.twcny.rr.com/iamthey/images/kahuna2.jpg)
Planetside at 5'. Oooh yeah (though I'd honestly like a 9' projector screen instead! And that pic is from 2003, not 1999). Imo the only reason for not having hdtv if you're a gamer is that you have a wife/girlfriend who is not properly supportive of your hobbies :)

BluRay...it's 1080p iirc, so I'd be dealing with downscaling issues and trying to save up for a mortgage means I might not be able to get into the 1080p DLP anytime soon. But I still think BluRay has already won the battle, because it's in the PS3. Every dipshit in every trailer park in america has a PS2. They'll eventually get a PS3, and when they eventually move to HD, they'll have an installed base of BluRay players that HD-DVD simply can't touch. PS3 shipping with BluRay ends the battle, period.

I just wish GTA4 was launching on the PC as well as the Box and PS3.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Yegolev on June 08, 2006, 07:18:14 AM
I'd like to get some opinions and rationale from anyone who is going to get a PS3 at $600, yet pass over the 360 and Wii.  If someone already has a 360 and is going to get the other two right off, that is easy enough to understand, no comments necessary.  I just want someone to explain to me, in small words that I can understand, exactly why they themselves are choosing the PS3 over the other consoles.  We have plenty of predictions on what Joe Fuckpack is going to buy; I'm looking for personal opinions and anecdotes.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Yegolev on June 08, 2006, 07:19:43 AM
I just wish GTA4 was launching on the PC as well as the Box and PS3.

Do you mean GTA6?


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: eldaec on June 08, 2006, 07:26:08 AM
Every dipshit in every trailer park in america has a PS2. They'll eventually get a PS3, and when they eventually move to HD, they'll have an installed base of BluRay players that HD-DVD simply can't touch. PS3 shipping with BluRay ends the battle, period.

This assumes that a winner does not emerge and achieve coronation by the movie publishers before the PS3 costs $250.

It's not a totally unreasonable possibility - but I'm not sure it's a dead cert either.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: HaemishM on June 08, 2006, 08:17:37 AM
Two mistakes.
It's $500 not $600,
Japan matters. A lot.

Look, no gamer is going to buy the $500 system when they can buy the $600 system, just like no gamer will buy the $300 360 Core when the $400 is available. It's just not happening. Anyone who knows ANYTHING about gaming and gamers would acknowledge that. Parents might buy that for their kids, but parents are idiots anyway who buy their kids GTA and then bitch when little Johnny FapFap beats hookers with giant dildos.

Wii has made a technological advance; it just isn't in sweat pixels, it's in something that matters. Gameplay and interface.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: HaemishM on June 08, 2006, 08:21:44 AM
Planetside at 5'. Oooh yeah (though I'd honestly like a 9' projector screen instead! And that pic is from 2003, not 1999). Imo the only reason for not having hdtv if you're a gamer is that you have a wife/girlfriend who is not properly supportive of your hobbies :)

Or you just can't fucking afford it. Seriously, I know it's the bees knees and all, and while I may want one, I cannot afford one when my regular TV works.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Velorath on June 08, 2006, 08:43:02 AM
Planetside at 5'. Oooh yeah (though I'd honestly like a 9' projector screen instead! And that pic is from 2003, not 1999). Imo the only reason for not having hdtv if you're a gamer is that you have a wife/girlfriend who is not properly supportive of your hobbies :)

Years of PC gaming have allowed me to adjust to not having top of the line graphics.  I'm not the guy who runs out and gets the latest graphics cards and has a nice monitor.  Likewise I'm not the guy that's going to run out and buy a PS3 and an HDTV.  I could afford it if I wanted to, but really I just don't give a fuck.  It's a hobby, not a way of life.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Sky on June 08, 2006, 08:58:50 AM
Hey, my pc is two years old. I just have a nice monitor is all. Haemmy, I'm just busting balls with the wifey comment, but if it were just a tv, I wouldn't have bought it. That's just a nice bonus. Finally, as I always wrap up the tv thingy: a pc + hdtv is actually inline or cheaper than most of my peer's hobbies, like snowmobiling, skiing, or sailing (hell, even some golfers).
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This assumes that a winner does not emerge and achieve coronation by the movie publishers before the PS3 costs $250.
I still stand behind the PS3 being the deciding factor. I know a ton of people waiting for it (everyone who owns a PS2 that I know), and these are almost all guys making $7-8/hr with families to support, yet they still found the money for an hdtv. Do not underestimate the lower-income folk's need for home entertainment. But even so, I still feel the PS3 install base (plus a few expensive standalone BluRay players) will far surpass the install base of HD-DVD as 360 add-on and expensive standalone players. I don't see how a movie exec could see otherwise, either.

Maybe if second revision 360s have the HD-DVD player, or the HD-DVD standalone players drop to DVD player prices exceedingly fast.
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Do you mean GTA6?
Err....yeah. The next one.
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I'd like to get some opinions and rationale from anyone who is going to get a PS3 at $600, yet pass over the 360 and Wii.
I'm tempted, for the BluRay and GTA6. I have a hard time buying a console for a couple games, though. I don't buy but maybe a half-dozen a year unless I dip into the bargain bin. Anyone know about any price gouging on games for the PS3 the way MS gouges for 3rd party 360 games? That alone leaves a shitty taste in my mouth when I can buy many new pc games at $40.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Yegolev on June 08, 2006, 09:11:19 AM
I don't have any confirmation of $60-$70 PS3 games, but with 360 setting the bar and Sony's arrogance, I see it as a possibility.

I seem to remember paying $70 for Final Fantasy III on the SNES at release.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Sky on June 08, 2006, 09:16:53 AM
Wii classic games under $10 (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060607-7009.html)


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: schild on June 08, 2006, 01:27:34 PM
Yea, saw that about the Rev titles. And, for the most part, that's too costly.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Velorath on June 08, 2006, 01:39:32 PM
Yea, saw that about the Rev titles. And, for the most part, that's too costly.

It's a little more costly than I would have liked.  On the other hand are the games going to be downloaded to a memory card, or will you have to be online to play them?  If it's possible for you and your friends to copy games to each others memory cards, it wouldn't be so bad paying $4.50-8.99 a game.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: schild on June 08, 2006, 01:41:26 PM
There is 512 megs of internal memory for storage and there is an SD card slot on the machine.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Yegolev on June 08, 2006, 02:09:16 PM
The "high" price of a VC game is surely offset by the fact that I don't have to get off my lazy ass to buy and subsequently play one.  Contrast with either emulating Super Metroid or repairing/replacing the SNES, and I am OK with it.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Margalis on June 08, 2006, 10:47:32 PM
$10 is fine with me. And who is to say they will all be $10? I'm guessing that 8-bit NES games probably won't be $10.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Merusk on June 09, 2006, 04:56:17 AM
Yeah, $10 isn't too bad at all.  It's better than the $19.99 for the classics on the Advance, and it's not like I'm planning on buying the entire library of old Nintendo games.  Only a crazy-man like Schild might try and do that.   Most folks might have 5-10 games they'll want to nab and that'll be it.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Strazos on June 09, 2006, 08:02:21 AM
Finally, as I always wrap up the tv thingy: a pc + hdtv is actually inline or cheaper than most of my peer's hobbies, like snowmobiling, skiing, or sailing (hell, even some golfers).

Ski equipment lasts a hell of a lot longer than a PC or TV.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Sairon on June 09, 2006, 08:50:09 AM
Finally, as I always wrap up the tv thingy: a pc + hdtv is actually inline or cheaper than most of my peer's hobbies, like snowmobiling, skiing, or sailing (hell, even some golfers).

Ski equipment lasts a hell of a lot longer than a PC or TV.

Yea but unless you live nearby a ski resort the trips gets fairly expensive.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Strazos on June 09, 2006, 10:14:02 AM
Hmm...yeah, I forgot I'm not the one paying for our timeshare ownership.  :nda:


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: HaemishM on June 09, 2006, 11:37:19 AM
$10 is fine with me. And who is to say they will all be $10? I'm guessing that 8-bit NES games probably won't be $10.

The world needs more games (even older ones) for $10 or less.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Sairon on June 09, 2006, 01:06:40 PM
$10 or less is fine for GC games, perhaps even for a handfull of N64 games. Sorry but for NES games I wouldn't shell out more than a buck or two, if I wanted to go retro with NES games I would buy a NES and shitton of games for practicly nothing, since I want the NES controller in that case.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Toast on June 09, 2006, 02:09:56 PM
There's value in the integration of the old games into one single, accessible system. You might be the kind of guy who will have a big pile of clunky old electronics piled up in front of the television with wires, controllers, and stacks of games. That stuff doesn't fly at my apartment.



Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Sky on June 12, 2006, 06:48:38 AM
Sounds like Toast needs a closet.


Title: Re: PS3 renders PCs obsolete
Post by: Strazos on June 12, 2006, 08:53:51 AM
There's something to be said for the convienence of being able to simply download all the old games through your Wii. You don't have to go out and find all the old games. You don't have to putz around with the NES not loading games up correctly. And you don't have to deal with the mess.