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This is easily solved by a) turning off general chat and b) joining or forming a guild with an 18+ minimum age limit (and other anti-fucktard restrictions).  I haven't put up with such shit in a over a year and I play everyday.

5. Make sure they're large enough / active enough for your tastes (3 people online including yourself weekday/weekend primetime does not a good guild make)

It does if one is a tank, and one is a healer.

See, you've made the presumption that you are a raging catass, and the other two people are not. I was in a guild with three of other raging catasses, and it probably would have worked out if we hadn't all been mages and hunters.

Edit 2:  Another thing that irked me about this guild was that as soon as I popped into Ventrilo, I realized there was a Guild Princess.  You know, the one girl who isn't there with her husband, who someone has apparently seen a picture of, who's supposed to be hot, who all the slobbering undersexed fuckheads can't stop obsequiously worshipping, and who'll probably make your life hell if you piss her off.  No fuckin' thanks, these particular slobbering undersexed fuckheads were making it was too obvious.

I've been in guilds like that, "friends" guilds, that never really go anywhere.. it's like "my friend, his brother, their cousin and two guys from my work"; You really need to get a critical mass before the guild takes a life of it's own, gets a website, and is going to be stable enough with enough people to really be worth joining. Guilds like that generally don't last more than a month or two, and are generally only saved by merging with other guilds. With that few people you'll probably have differing schedules and since you really need 5 people to make a group, most likely it's going to be a lot of "Well, I guess we'll play without X" and then he's 2 levels behind everyone and gets frustrated.. the only easy way to avoid this (other than the level 60 game) is to have a large enough pool of people to draw upon.

Yeah I saw that alot. It was sad.

I do this and have been succesful as well.  We should write a how-to book like some people and make tens of dollars!

Wha'cha talkin'bout? My guild fits your criteria and yet we've been around since 1997 with no sign of imploding anytime soon, we have a vent server, a website, an IRC server, you name it. The only thing we lack is a large number of people (we have ~10 members playing WOW atm), but we're not likely to mass recruit in /1 either, kek.

Oh, it was in the high three figures!

So how much are they selling the US for?

If you have to ask, you can't afford it.

In all seriousness, I can't find out. No one talks dollars. The closest (http://www.gizmag.com/go/3310/) I could find (http://www.theworld.ae/) was some references, cited in our favorite wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_%28archipelago%29), citing $25mil for the smaller islands.

This is easily solved by a) turning off general chat and b) joining or forming a guild with an 18+ minimum age limit (and other anti-fucktard restrictions).  I haven't put up with such shit in a over a year and I play everyday.

One of the officers is actually quite old, in his late 40's; We constantly give him a good natured hard time about it too.

40 quite old? You young fukkr. One of these days I will take out my pong paddle and whack you upside the head. Right after I strap on my Depends and sip my morning Metamucil.

He's 47 or some such. That's almost double my age. Yeah, double my age is quite old to be playing those video games ;) He's retired and plays allllll day.... he has 5 or 6 characters at level 60.

My dad's 64 and plays way too much.

My confession, The real Me
Many people believed that I was someone older then who I am in the real-life world. I felt really bad everytime someone asked me how old I was because I knew that I would lie about it. I don't know why I did lie about my age but I do know that in the start of my journey in this guild, I recall there was a certain age limit that the guild required- forcing me to do something I really hated doing.

My real name is Kris and I am only 16 years old- someone who goes to an amazing Private school in Hawaii. I always wondered why grimfang proposed me to be an officer, but I took the action for the guild's sake not considering the amount of stress and pressure I would be getting myself into. My knowledge to lead a guild was very low, considering that WoW was my first rpg game I played ever. Though I was kind of immature at times (music on vent and such), I knew that I did a pretty decent job- able to complete the duties that my guildleader proposed me to do and even cheering up some guildies that felt like shit on certain days.

I am not here to gain ur attention and such- I just wanted to express the "real" samuseva that is in ur guild and clear up certain misconceptions people got from me. I felt that it was the right time to provide the truth to you u guys because I feel that a sense of trust has been concreted once the guild was created. Also, I want to confess that I am totally not sure if I will be playing this game during the summer. I will be going away in the Summer to fulfill a session I will be taking with teh Carpenter's Union- hopefully becoming an apprentice.

You may think that this game had ruined my life in school, but it actually allowed me to talk with peers I have never talked with. Here is a video that my friend created (www.microbyteproductions.com <-- click login and then click the yellow bar and type this: knip08@punahou.edu) expressng the addiction factor of this wonderful game and to reveal the amount of students that actually play this game at our school. If you do watch the video, you can see my twin brother (the guy typing on the computer with the school's firewall on), giving u a sense of what I look like. Hell, I even feel bad for using my brother to raid my guy at the times I had to go afk because I had the urge to gain dkp and stay in the raid for loot purposes. Again, I just wanted to express the truth to people that perceived me as someone else. All that stuff I said in officer chat- with how I had to go afk for a serious reason is not true. fact is, my grandparents make me eat with the family, forcing me to stop whatever boss we have initiated on or taking those unexpected afk breaks that I don't tell others about. The urge to gain dkp and stay in the raid was also a factor as well- leading to stress which I couldn't really handle any more. With that said, I will like to say goodbye, and hopefully I may come back during the early days of June though not totally sure. I am just glad I got this off my chest for the past half year I was with this awesome guild

Most of the people in my (casual raiding) guild seem to have kids and/or spouses. We have a couple of teenagers who are younger siblings of other members, but I'd put the average age in the high 20s. I'm one of the oldest at 36. I joined the guild because it had people I knew in EverQuest in 1999. I can't pick a "guild princess", but the leader is a woman with two kids, and is one of the most hardcore gamers I've met. She left a power guild in favour of a slower pace, but that means we tend to have some "slower people" in the guild who frustrate her.

The wider player base does seem much younger than other MMORPGs. I'm not that keen on it. My account has been cancelled for two weeks, not because I've left the game, but because the next raid I can attend is this Sunday :)

I have an update: this guild has just died. MMOG guild politics are always so annoyingly spectacular. Our hard-working leader's husband left a couple of months back, but she was intent on leading our guild through BWL. He continued helping to make up the numbers on our raids and even called some shots due to his knowledge, but some rather petty sniping went on about his presence. She discovered this bad attitude towards him was shared by a sizeable minority of the guild, who had also developed a slack attitude to raids.

So she left. The main raid leader left too. Then four officers, one after the other. Some of the grumpy people left to start their own guild, we went through five guild leaders in three days, and the remaining founders posted "the fat lady has sung" and shut down the forums.

I joined a friend's much happier guild that is roughly at the same stage (MC on farm, starting BWL), so nothing much changes for me. Time to grab some popcorn and watch the remaining fallout.

Regardless of age, if a person can't be arsed to spell out the words "have" or "leave" then odds are they'll contribute jack and shit to the guild.  I really fear for the future with this upcoming generation of kids that have the writing skills of degenerate monkeys.  I'm no spelling champion and my grammar could use some work but this is ridiculous and all too common.  I mean are these kids filling out the application on a fucking cell phone?  We've had recruitment open for about a month now and I'd say we've only allowed about 2% of the applicants into the guild.

Does anyone have any success stories of guilds where the original leadership left and someone successfully took it over?  You'd think it would be possible, but I've never seen it in practice.

Funny thing - almost the exact same thing just happened to me.  Everything was basically peachy until the original guild leader left, then we started going through an ever-accellerating series of leaders until finally, when it fell to me, I made a fat-lady-singing post and disbanded the guild.

Does anyone have any success stories of guilds where the original leadership left and someone successfully took it over?  You'd think it would be possible, but I've never seen it in practice.

Does anyone have any success stories of guilds where the original leadership left and someone successfully took it over?  You'd think it would be possible, but I've never seen it in practice.