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Title: Silent Hill
Post by: schild on April 18, 2006, 05:46:47 PM
Comes out this Friday. STOKED. 2 of my roommates and I (the other one is a big pussy when it comes to horror movies) are going. It's going to be the best movie ever. So, who's with me?

(http://www.horrorchannel.com/img/story/silenthillpic19.jpg)

And who wants to go with us? Comeon, come out of the woodwork. Take a day trip to Phoenix. COMEON.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: stray on April 18, 2006, 06:00:50 PM
Not sure about best movie ever, but it's the first horror in a long time that I actually gave a shit about.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: schild on April 18, 2006, 06:16:20 PM
Come to Phoenix! Everyone come to Phoenix!

Edit: And by best movie ever, I mean, the best movie I care about right now that I can't go into my living room and watch. I set the bar low for the movie folks, god knows they need the help.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Lantyssa on April 18, 2006, 06:24:25 PM
I am going on Sunday because I caved during a moment of weakness.  A certain someone is going to have the added realism of scratch-marks suddenly appearing across their body during tense moments.  Lots of them.  To heighten the experience of course.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: SurfD on April 18, 2006, 07:13:34 PM
One way or another i will probably give you guys my thoughts on it (no spoilers tho) on Thursday night, when i prescreen a copy at work.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Hoax on April 18, 2006, 07:57:12 PM
I've already got playoff hockey on tap for this weekend (I think, goddamn schedule needs to come out already).



Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Strazos on April 18, 2006, 09:21:05 PM
Sorry, you couldn't pay me to stay Anywhere in Arizona....nothing personal.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: schild on April 18, 2006, 09:33:30 PM
Are people from New Jersey allowed to make statements like that about....anywhere? No? Didn't think so.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Surlyboi on April 18, 2006, 09:43:08 PM
I've already got playoff hockey on tap for this weekend (I think, goddamn schedule needs to come out already).

If I know those guys at NHL broadcasting (well, actually... I do know those guys...) they're still sitting there at right now trying to hammer out the playoff schedule as usual.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Strazos on April 18, 2006, 09:50:50 PM
Of course. You can't get a schedule done until you know who is playing who.

Are people from New Jersey allowed to make statements like that about....anywhere? No? Didn't think so.

Hey, it's not as if I like living here, or even have a real choice in the matter. I'm the last person who would say Anything positive about NJ.....

Well, besides the highway architecture for the most part. It's pretty easy to get around on them.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Engels on April 18, 2006, 11:35:52 PM
So, like, I don't know jack about this movie. And I don't want to get an 'opinion' from some professional movie reviewer, because most of the time they are either full of crap, don't like the genre in the first place or are catering to some wierd imagined movie bourgoisie in their head.

So Schild, why should I see this movie?


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: schild on April 18, 2006, 11:40:51 PM
It's not by Uwe Boll? Oh, you're serious.

I wasn't excited until I found out Christopher Gans (http://imdb.com/name/nm0304521/) was attached to the project in a big way. Brotherhood of the Wolf may not have earth-shattering but it proved that he's more than capable of making a beautiful film with a story portrayed more by the environment than the words in the script. In other words, he's a good name to have attached to a piece of survival horror.

Horror is a touchy genre. A lot of it is shit (see, 90% of the entire genre) and very rarely is it good (Ringu and Silence of the Lambs being notable exceptions to the rule). Brotherhood of the wolf was really 1 step away from being a period piece AND incredible horror movie. The guy has the chops, he just needed a setting to make it happen. Silent Hill is really a fantastic place for this to happen.

Also, it's not by Uwe Boll.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: stray on April 19, 2006, 12:20:34 AM
I know I wasn't asked specifically, but for one, it looks to be the first video game based movie written by a better than average script writer (not that the games weren't already good though). Secondly, it looks to be the first horror in a long while written by a better than average script writer (at least English speaking ones).

Anyways, there's some interesting comments here (http://www.edge-online.co.uk/archives/2005/09/roger_avary_tal.php) about game adaptations (as well as Avary's opinons on Gans).


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: stray on April 19, 2006, 01:04:02 AM
Quote
Random Silent Hill fan said:

If they ruin this, I WILL destroy. This movie had better have the same effect as Frankenstein did way back when. People fainting; vomiting; going into shock. That is Silent Hill to me. I had better walk away feeling nauseous and very very depressed. Nausea, melancholia, and confusion are key, you sloppy c*nts.


DO IT RIGHT OR I AM COMING FOR YOU.

Damn, I thought I had high expectations.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Surlyboi on April 19, 2006, 01:52:51 AM
Of course. You can't get a schedule done until you know who is playing who.

It's harder than that. They also have to work out broadcasting issues. One of the most dreaded days in the NHL offices has always been playoff schedule day becuase you're guaranteed an all-nighter on random conference calls with everybody and his brother trying to work out rights and venues and teams.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Yegolev on April 19, 2006, 07:36:27 AM
Tell your roommate that my extra-squeamish wife is also STOKED about Silent Hill.  She never watches horror movies, nightmares and creepouts and whatnot.  She'll watch this one... and I didn't even suggest it, she brought it up to me.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: bhodi on April 19, 2006, 07:48:53 AM
Where are the reviews?! Holding the movie in close and screening it as close to the wide release date as possible screams "BOMB! THIS MOVIE IS TRASH!" to me. And I want to see it, I want to like it.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Lantyssa on April 19, 2006, 11:49:59 AM
It also has Sean Bean.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Yegolev on April 19, 2006, 12:20:40 PM
It also has Sean Bean.

Which I like to pronounce "Seen Been" in a loud voice.  He rocks.  Equilibrium > Matrix.  And... uh... National Treasure.  Awesome.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Morfiend on April 19, 2006, 02:41:41 PM
[National Treasure.  Awesome.

I loled just seeing those words next to each other.

I fall under the "big pussy" catagory, when it comes to horror movies. I cant help it, they influence me way to easilly. If I see a decent horror movie I have bad dreams about it for several weeks. My entire life this has happened to me, and I have never found a way around it. It only seems to happen with movies like the Ring, or The House on Haunted Hill (I think thats the name, not the Haunting of Hill House, the one in the old asylem was fucking scary). I have no problems with movies like Scream or Silence of the Lambs. If it has a creepy little kid in it, im fucking done for. That girl from the Ring haunted my dreams for months. And Silent Hill looks like it has creepy kids galore. Its to bad really, cause I would love to enjoy these movies. I just cant knowing I will have major bad dreams afterward.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: stray on April 19, 2006, 03:04:33 PM
Its to bad really, cause I would love to enjoy these movies. I just cant knowing I will have major bad dreams afterward.

Wait...I thought bad dreams defined the very meaning of "enjoyment" when it comes to good horror stories. How else would you enjoy them?


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Flood on April 19, 2006, 04:44:43 PM
Aye it shall rocketh.

I won't get to go until Tuesday or Wednesday of next week due to work constraints, but I plan on hitting it up first thing on my day off.  Going to get as drunk and stoned as possible in the Red Robin that is immediately adjacent to the theaters right before I go in.  Although the though of Whiskey BBQ Burgers coming back up isn't appealing.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Dren on April 20, 2006, 07:27:15 AM
Quote
Random Silent Hill fan said:

If they ruin this, I WILL destroy. This movie had better have the same effect as Frankenstein did way back when. People fainting; vomiting; going into shock. That is Silent Hill to me. I had better walk away feeling nauseous and very very depressed. Nausea, melancholia, and confusion are key, you sloppy c*nts.


DO IT RIGHT OR I AM COMING FOR YOU.

Damn, I thought I had high expectations.

That person describes exactly why I don't like horror movies.  I hate that feeling afterward.  Of course, I get that feeling to a small degree from watching any movie in the theater.  I had a tinge just watching Ice Age 2 last weekend.

Silly?  Yes.  Sorry, just me.  I think I might have an inner ear thing or something.  Large screens with lots of movement affect me 100x more than it did when I was a kid.  That added to my aversion to horror movies (always had that) makes it even worse.

Hell, I DO read the spoilers for horror movies (I like the concept of them, just can't handle them.)  Even when I do that, I get that creepy, sick feeling just reading about them.  I was ill for hours after reading about Hostel.

Now, you may laugh at my expense.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Signe on April 20, 2006, 08:04:35 AM
Scary games bother me more than scary films.  I like scary films.  I've always enjoyed being creeped out.  I don't know what it is about games, though.  They make me nervous.  My saving grace is that I'm much less of a big girlie's blouse than Dren.  Ha!




Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Yegolev on April 20, 2006, 09:26:49 AM
So how far did you get in Silent Hill, the game?  I made it to the school (?), but I didn't stop because it was too creepy.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Signe on April 20, 2006, 09:30:46 AM
Who me?   :|  I never bought it.  I did have Fatal Frame, although I was too scared to open it.  It looked like a disturbing game to play.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: kaid on April 20, 2006, 09:56:43 AM
Fatal frame was pretty freaky. Trying to avoid the evil undead with a wussy little asian girl armed with her magic camera was a bit spooky.

Nothing like having to look through the camera for massive tunnel vision to make things jumping out at you even more freaky.

kaid


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Dren on April 20, 2006, 10:54:20 AM
Scary games bother me more than scary films.  I like scary films.  I've always enjoyed being creeped out.  I don't know what it is about games, though.  They make me nervous.  My saving grace is that I'm much less of a big girlie's blouse than Dren.  Ha!

HEY!  I like the games actually.  Maybe it is because I can stop and start whenever I want.  In the theater, I'm stuck for a good 1 1/2 to 2 hours.

Plus, my blouse isn't that big.  Please.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Signe on April 20, 2006, 01:35:42 PM
It's not as if they lock you in the theatre, now, is it?  You could leave anytime you like... if you weren't so afraid of the usher.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: SurfD on April 20, 2006, 10:55:35 PM
Ok, just got done screening our copy before it goes up for public enjoyment later today, and i must say, WOO HOO, that was great.

Opinion Note: I did not find it scary.  I have seen friday the 13th / Nightmare on elmstreet installments that I consider more "scary" then Silent Hill.  I did however find it quite sufficiently creepy, and very satisfyingly fuck-with-your-headish.

Starts off kind of slow, but once they actually get into Silent Hill, things really pick up, and you are in for a decently gripping ride into bizzaro land.

I do have to give them mad props for the visual effects.  Shit is REALLY well done, and some of the scenes just leave you going "wow, that was SOOOO fucking sweet".

Cant really say too much, or risk spoilers, and there was one bit of the move that i was somewhat dissapointed with (sort of broke the flow of the whole thing), but on the whole, it really is just a spot on cover of the way the game felt.

Man, I REALLY hope they re-release the first game, I have a crazy urge to play that sucker now.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: stray on April 20, 2006, 11:00:12 PM
I'll probably see it tonight. Kind of a shame that you say Freddy and Jason offered more thrills, seeing that those movies are shit (imo, of course). Still, the rest of what you say keeps me from completely holding off.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: SurfD on April 20, 2006, 11:29:45 PM
I'll probably see it tonight. Kind of a shame that you say Freddy and Jason offered more thrills, seeing that those movies are shit (imo, of course). Still, the rest of what you say keeps me from completely holding off.
Well, its a question of what do you find "scary".

 In all honesty, I couldnt really think of a move I have seen ( with the possible exception of the Grudge) that I sould consider "scary" since I watched Pet Cemetery back when i was 12 or so.  For me, Pet Cemetery was the horror movie I hold other movies up to to measure how scary I find them.   (For reference: I watched Pet Cemetery at a friends place, and the movie scared the fuck out of me.  I remember watching the last 3rd or so of that movie from behind my friends couch, with a fortress of cushions built up in wich to hide).

In hindsight, I imagine I would not find that movie quite as frightening as I did when I saw it way back when if I were to watch it again, but there you have it.

As to Silent hill, there was very very little of the typical "BWAGH" loud-noize-sudden-movement-thing-jumps-out kind of shit that freddy and jason movies love to call "scarry".  I wouldnt really call Silent Hill a Horror/Thriller in that sense.   It is more of a Psychological/Thriller with moments of mindfuckery kind of thing.  None of the "omfg that sudden movement was scary" things, but rather a long scene of "wtf was that and why the hell do i feel really creaped out all of a sudden kind of feeling.

Thats sort of what I meant when I said I dont find Silent Hill "scary".  It doesent go for the vicereal, heartpounding scare, but rather the building sense of something being just wrong, and not in a good way.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: stray on April 21, 2006, 12:25:33 AM
I'll probably see it tonight. Kind of a shame that you say Freddy and Jason offered more thrills, seeing that those movies are shit (imo, of course). Still, the rest of what you say keeps me from completely holding off.
Well, its a question of what do you find "scary".

Heh, I may be missing something, but the last thing that scared me were the Silent Hill games actually.

Other than that, the best I can ask for is "disturbing" or "unsettling" (which usually comes down to something dealing with psychosis. Jacob's Ladder or Oldboy come to mind). Sometimes, I find the best kind of horror in films that aren't billed as such (Irreversible).

Anyways, since you say Silent Hill deals with mindfuckery, I'm sure I'll be happy enough (wait, is that a good thing?).


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: schild on April 21, 2006, 12:38:32 AM
Silent Hill 1 is being remade for the PSP. It comes out in October.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: schild on April 21, 2006, 01:13:53 AM
Having read some reviews, I have this to say.

When movie critics see movies based on games, they disdain them in the same way game critics look at games based on movies. In other words: It's a pissing fight.

Who can piss further? I dunno. 100 reviews for Silent Hill should be out by next week. And in a couple weeks we'll see the gaming industry's reviews of X3.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Azazel on April 21, 2006, 01:54:25 AM
I am going on Sunday because I caved during a moment of weakness.  A certain someone is going to have the added realism of scratch-marks suddenly appearing across their body during tense moments.  Lots of them.  To heighten the experience of course.

mm sexy!


It also has Sean Bean.

Excellent! I love Mr.Bean's work.


Opinion Note: I did not find it scary. I have seen friday the 13th / Nightmare on elmstreet installments that I consider more "scary" then Silent Hill. I did however find it quite sufficiently creepy, and very satisfyingly fuck-with-your-headish.

Did you see Ringu 1/2 and what did you think of them?



Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: schild on April 21, 2006, 02:55:39 AM
Ya know, as creepy as Ringu was, I found Ju-On and Phone much scarier. Ringu was a perfectly crafted thriller, don't get me wrong, I'd sing it's praises from the mountain. But for raw scares, there's a raft of other shit (especially Korean stuff) that just can't be beat. Of course, this may just be a reflection of watching each of the Ringu things (including the TV show) at least 5 times a piece (and the original movie about 20-25 times).


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Shockeye on April 21, 2006, 04:42:49 AM
Review worth reading. (http://www.popsyndicate.com/index.php/site/story/silent_hill/)


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: stray on April 21, 2006, 05:18:13 AM
Hmm, I can't find enough from the reviewer ("Stefan") to gauge what else he/she likes. Looks like "Pop Syndicate" just launched this month.

Other than that (and at the risk of sounding prematurely fanboi-ish), the review itself sucks.

[edit]

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Rose ventures into Silent Hill looking for her daughter enshrouded by a thick fog and snow like ash falling from the sky.  She catches a glimpse of Sharon running down an alley. She follows when suddenly a siren goes off and everything goes pitch black.  She flicks her torch of a Zippo lighter and continues her search only to be attacked by strange burning childlike creatures.  Just as she’s about to be overtaken, the creatures disappear. 

This goes on for the first hour.

That last line is important. Bad reviewers usually say lazy, dismissive shit like that. Either this person didn't watch the film in a theater (with a good sound system), or they really don't know how to watch a film. I'm not convinced that only that is what "goes on for the first hour".

However....

I'll drop my expectations a bit and accept Schild's advice : "It's not Uwe Boll!" Hopefully, it's not Saw either.

Going in with that in mind might make the experience a little better.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Savant on April 21, 2006, 06:33:34 AM
I had just gotten back into the groove of enjoying horror movies when Saw II completely fucked that up again.  I have hopes that this movie will set things straight again.  If not, no more horror movies for another two years.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Fabricated on April 21, 2006, 08:49:44 AM
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060420/REVIEWS/60421001/1023

Well, Ebert didn't really get it, but he had to drag his retarded views on games into it as well.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Fabricated on April 21, 2006, 08:54:33 AM
This is the best review I've read so far.


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I went with two people who didn't know the games and they had no trouble understanding the plot. There is a part in this movie where it holds your hand so hard while walking you through a ton of exposition it's painful. If anyone says they don't understand what's going on in this movie then they were not paying attention or they don't understand how they're supposed to watch a film. Ebert fits for both of those.

I have no shred of doubt that Sony hates this movie. The clunky, wrongheaded marketing gave me this impression. Refusing to screen it for critics gave me this impression. They released it through TriStar instead of their typical Screen Gems. The movie is dirty and they have been pushing it away from themselves so they don't get contaminated by it. From the "difficult" plot to the intensity of the action sequences to the broadness of some of the characters to the inescapably violent and sexual subject matter to Gans' compositions and camera work (which rely on none of the easily recognizable cliches that typify the way horror movies are shot these days,) there is nothing here that a Decider for a studio as artistically bankrupt as Sony wouldn't react to with fear and hatred.

I have no hope for that proposed sequel, adapting the plot of Silent Hill 2, to go anywhere. With such pathetic studio support, I'll be amazed if this one manages to come close to breaking even in the theatrical run.

The very least that can be said about Silent Hill is it's an attempt at something other than a 70s/80s horror remake or a J-horror remake or a shitty slasher flick. It wants to be something different and it is something different. It is good for horror that there is a movie like this.

When you see whiny dickless little babies complaining that they hated it, it wasn't the way they wanted it, and that they'd rather there'd never been a Silent Hill movie you should let them know that they are lower than shit. They are bugs, made of shit, that live in a gigantic pile of shit and worship a Shit God while they suck shit into their disgusting little mouths and shit it back out and then eat it again (they love shit.) The world will be a cooler place when they're dead.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Hoax on April 21, 2006, 11:39:16 AM
Fucking shit-god worshiping bugs made of shit.  I HATE THEM!!

 :mob:


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: ahoythematey on April 21, 2006, 12:50:01 PM
Quote
Random Silent Hill fan said:

If they ruin this, I WILL destroy. This movie had better have the same effect as Frankenstein did way back when. People fainting; vomiting; going into shock. That is Silent Hill to me. I had better walk away feeling nauseous and very very depressed. Nausea, melancholia, and confusion are key, you sloppy c*nts.


DO IT RIGHT OR I AM COMING FOR YOU.

Damn, I thought I had high expectations.

Just got back.  While maybe not quite that emotionally disturbing, the movie was pretty grotesque in a mostly-cerebral way, but plenty graphic all things considered.  I think Gans did an awesome job and I hope people see through the prejudices of assfaced reviewers incapable of escaping their own narrow views of what a movie should be and where the source material can come from.

I would recommend seeing Silent Hill.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: stray on April 21, 2006, 03:16:26 PM
Not as good as I thought it'd be (but of course), but it had it's moments. It was a bit slow at times, and I expected something more relentless. Creepy, but not scary, as Surf said. The best part was probably the score.

Also, the ending was the shit.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: schild on April 21, 2006, 03:23:39 PM
A lot of people say they wanted "something more relentless." The problem is in the source. The SH games are anything but relentless. They are slow moving, pretty dull for long periods of time, and disjointed in terms of plot construction.

I love them, but the bar is set low in my brain for this movie. I have no worries that it won't be anything but fucking totally awesome.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: stray on April 21, 2006, 03:46:09 PM
Hmm, the games, at least for me, were completely relentless. There were more times where I had to hit pause and take a breather than when I was just twiddling my thumbs, waiting for something bad to happen. My expectations for the film were because of the games, not in spite of them.

Maybe it's just an issue of medium and player involvement or whatever, but the games worked on an entirely different level for me than this film did (but just to be clear, I didn't dislike the film either).


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: stray on April 21, 2006, 10:51:25 PM
Schild, it's past midnight. Where is your opinion?


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Margalis on April 22, 2006, 12:17:47 AM
The games were awesome. I wouldn't call them relentless, more like crushing. Even when nothing was really happening action-wise or plot-wise the whole thing was like a slowly contracting box.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: schild on April 22, 2006, 12:21:34 AM
Just got back. Better than the game(s). It was damned faithful and well paced (for a Gans movie). I would change the opinion of it being better than the game if they remade Silent Hill 1 to play like Resident Evil 4. Every horror game should be remade with the over the shoulder thing actually.

Anyway, I'm gonna chat about it for my chronicle tonight. Goddamn that whole project is a mess. I didn't think I'd be this preoccupied before E3.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: stray on April 22, 2006, 12:30:20 AM
The games were awesome. I wouldn't call them relentless, more like crushing. Even when nothing was really happening action-wise or plot-wise the whole thing was like a slowly contracting box.

Maybe that's a better description. Either way, I didn't mean relentless in the overt, Slasher flick kind of way. I just meant relentless in the sense that the game(s) offered little respite or less than overwhelming predicaments.

And like I said, the movie has it's moments. Just not enough of them -- and those are mainly towards the end. The charred babies and Pyramid Head are as nightmarish as I hoped them to be, and the ending gorefest is the fucking bomb. I hope it does well enough to warrant a sequel at least....Since I think SH 2 would make the better flick.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: schild on April 22, 2006, 12:40:29 AM
--Vague Spoilers--













Oh, I positively loved the whitewash backstory scene. The brutality near the end was spot on. And pyramid head will haunt my dreams. And I welcome it. The babies were well done as well. I wish the acid spitters had been roaming Silent Hill like they should have been. And finally, I thought the nurses in the final hallway were just badass. Oh, and I'm glad they made the protaganist a chick. Other than that - good fucking stuff all around. I would like to say that in the first 15 minutes of this movie they had more dialogue than in the whole of Le Pacte de Loups (Brotherhood of the Wolf, spelled incorrectly as well).


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Target_Erukul on April 22, 2006, 02:15:26 PM
    Started out abit slow first, then it zipped off into Land of Soon to be Classic Films, right up until it hit a fat road block when it decided it needed to explain. Simplistic moronic 1+1=2 explanatios. A beutifully filmed rythmic film screamed to a dead stop. And it went down hill from there. Luckily it was the last 15 or so minutes but still it left me feeling cheated.
    What makes it worse is after that blatent scream of 'LOOK BEHIND THE CURTAIN !!'  It continued with its subtleties, the costumes colors, the fog, etc etc, but after being brained up side the head with the Sledgehammer of Captian Obvious it could not recapture its rythm.
   I am hoping for a Directors Cut released DvD titled "They(corporate execs) edited it when I wasn't looking, heres the real ending"
 


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Kitsune on April 22, 2006, 10:04:16 PM
Spoilers below!





The movie really annoyed me in a few places.  Both of the parents seeming very bewildered when police arrest them for blatantly breaking the law.  The fact that nobody questioned the very, well, videogame-ish chain of events, when the mother explains to the cop that they have to go to the hotel because she found a piece of the hotel sign in some dead guy's mouth, the cop didn't say, 'That's the stupidest bullshit I've ever heard.  What the hell would make you think finding something in a dead guy's mouth tells you where your daughter is?'

The ending was kinda 'eh'.  I'd suspected that they were all dead from their various crashes, and the ending seemed to support the idea, but if that was the case, why were none of the bodies discovered, nor, apparently, the cop's motorcycle?

The visuals were great, and the movie was nicely eerie, but the writing could've used some work, IMO.  I'd consider it more a rental candidate than something to see opening night.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Rasix on April 22, 2006, 10:45:22 PM
I could not in good faith recommend that anyone see this movie. It sucked. Badly. Pretty movie, great visuals. Everything else was a steaming pile.

I really want some of what you people are injecting between your toes.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: stray on April 22, 2006, 11:50:22 PM
[edit] Pointless news. Nevermind.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: schild on April 23, 2006, 01:28:13 AM
I've seen it twice now (went with a different group of people). Every person has liked it and every person has disliked the same scene.

The scene that starts with "It looks like there's been a fire here" and ends with "use this rope to get around the pile of garbage, you silly platforming bitch."


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Engels on April 23, 2006, 09:03:46 AM
Anyone know a place to get a PS2 emulator and/or a PC version of the original game?


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: SurfD on April 23, 2006, 11:52:27 AM
www.zophar.net for all your emulator needs (If they dont list it, chances are it probably doesent exist)

As for an image of the game, no idea.  I imagine you could find ISO's of it floating around on pretty much any fileshare service.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Yoru on April 23, 2006, 12:12:53 PM
Saw it yesterday afternoon.

I dunno, the movie seemed to build up and fall flat too often on various fronts. The first 'omg dark & scary' sequence started off pretty creepy, but I found it comic towards the end. Subsequent dark & scary sequences were heavily foreshadowed and, well.. not scary. Meanwhile, you have a pretty good WTF factor going on with the cop & mother storyline, and then they feel the need to jolt you out of it with the crappy father storyline, throwing off the pacing. They eventually ruined the WTF factor entirely with all the plodding, pedantic exposition. I felt like I was being physically assaulted with a giant steel I-Beam Of Clue.

And then there's the whole suspension of disbelief thing. The opening ten minutes required an excruciating effort to believe. I found neither the actions of the mother nor the actions of the cops believable in the first ten minutes. The videogamey mechanic of "go somewhere, find absolutely tangentially-related item, take it as gospel proof of needing to go somewhere else" felt forced.

The cinematography also felt a bit videogamey, like Gans was trying to replicate scenes from the game in certain parts; there were a handful of travel scenes with a static camera where someone enters the screen at an odd angle then exits it (or walks up into a closeup) that screamed 'video game'.

That said, the actual visuals and art direction were pretty good; nothing truly spectacular or revolutionary, but solid.

I'd say it's worth a DVD rental or a second-run ticket.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Fabricated on April 23, 2006, 01:00:16 PM
Anyone know a place to get a PS2 emulator and/or a PC version of the original game?
I think there may have been a PC version of the original Silent Hill but my memory fails me at the moment.

For emulation:

Emulator: ePSXe.
http://www.epsxe.com

Plugins:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/peops/

You'll need the PSX BIOS file to make the emulator work, but well, that's illegal to provide.

I took some screenies of the opening with my copy of SH1:
(http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/6277/epsxe20060423161112545ws.th.jpg) (http://img399.imageshack.us/my.php?image=epsxe20060423161112545ws.jpg)(http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/1892/epsxe20060423161124312kg.th.jpg) (http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=epsxe20060423161124312kg.jpg)(http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/3296/epsxe20060423161239376xk.th.jpg) (http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=epsxe20060423161239376xk.jpg)(http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/5233/epsxe20060423161253296qx.th.jpg) (http://img474.imageshack.us/my.php?image=epsxe20060423161253296qx.jpg)(http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/6645/epsxe20060423161335202sg.th.jpg) (http://img474.imageshack.us/my.php?image=epsxe20060423161335202sg.jpg)(http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/7192/epsxe20060423161320343wf.th.jpg) (http://img474.imageshack.us/my.php?image=epsxe20060423161320343wf.jpg)


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Lantyssa on April 23, 2006, 07:13:44 PM
I really enjoyed the movie and I do not like horror.  I know some of you did not like the ending but it felt appropriate to me.  I had no complaints about the movie.  Maybe that is because I am not used to the genre so it is easy to creep me out.

(Okay, there was something that bothered me, but it is not really a complaint.  The cop was my favorite, so a few of her scenes really got to me.  Moreso than some of the other powerful moments.)


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: WindupAtheist on April 23, 2006, 09:55:28 PM
Equilibrium > Matrix.

Just to go off on a tangent, I remember reading an incomplete fanfic with a really great premise.  Preston goes out to apprehend some sense-offenders, but instead of finding his old friend Sean Bean out there in that little room, he finds... wait for it... Morpheus and his two pills.  It was a lot of fun while it lasted.


Title: Re: Silent Hill
Post by: Trippy on August 13, 2014, 04:16:44 PM
Silent Hills game stuff moved here:

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=24351.0