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Title: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Trippy on March 20, 2006, 05:51:14 PM Some of you might have seen that brief video a few months ago supposedly from DICE that had a mech stomping around. Well it turns out that was real, they are making another Battlefield game this time set in the future:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-DnK-d_sp0 This is a from the May 2006 issue of PC Gamer. Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: pants on March 21, 2006, 05:09:48 AM This will be interesting. BF1942 was fun. A big whole bag of fun. Desert Combat and BF2 were less fun. No idea why - but I just plain didn't enjoy em as much. (Maybe coz it became more tank wars? Dunno). Be very interesting to see if this is fun as well, or if its just BF2 with a different skin (from EA? Surely not!). The very short video only shows it as BF2 with little mechs - not much to tell from there.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Trippy on March 21, 2006, 05:29:13 AM There's a stealth/cloaking class that's new (assuming it doesn't get nerfed into oblivion before release) and some sort of Tau-ish looking floating gun platform (pet for Engineer class?).
Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: HaemishM on March 21, 2006, 08:16:51 AM Who wants to start the pool on how buggy it'll be at release because it was rushed to hell and back?
Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: NiX on March 21, 2006, 08:41:57 AM That video looked like BF2 with new skins. Holy uninteresting. Seriously, for a world where everyone is fighting to survive the cities looked like they were in pretty good shape. Some war. Bunch of futuristic pansies.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Toast on March 21, 2006, 09:44:16 AM I can't wait to get owned by bunny-hopping mechs.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: HaemishM on March 21, 2006, 10:01:05 AM Bunny-hopping CLOAKED mechs.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: WayAbvPar on March 21, 2006, 10:18:36 AM I loved both 1942 and 2, but this gives me a giant case of meh. It sounds too goofy and gimmicky.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Furiously on March 21, 2006, 10:53:01 AM I'd really think this would lend itself better to a MMOG fee type game with being able to change your loadout and such.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Simond on March 21, 2006, 12:33:04 PM I can't wait to get owned by bunny-hopping mechs. Planetside free year-long trial starts Real Soon Now. ;)Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Azazel on March 21, 2006, 07:52:31 PM Well as long as they shove it out the door as soon as possible, before it's really finished and announce an expansion the day the base game ships I can't possibly see how it could be bad. :heartbreak:
Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: sinij on March 21, 2006, 07:58:08 PM Bunny-hopping CLOAKED mechs. It would be funny if it weren't so close to truth. What I want out of next FPS is more RTS elements - give commander some resources, extra for kills/meat goals, and give him control over spawning mechanical units. If you feel really ambitious make building and defending special pads (i.e. factory or helipad) required for getting specific type of units. Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Trippy on March 21, 2006, 07:59:30 PM That video looked like BF2 with new skins. Holy uninteresting. Seriously, for a world where everyone is fighting to survive the cities looked like they were in pretty good shape. Some war. Bunch of futuristic pansies. Yes it is using the same engine as BF2. Here's the content-free press release in Swedish:http://www.dice.se/press/pressreleases/?article=5663896d-06a2-4c48-9201-b9fde90704aa And here's a machine translation into English: Quote Digital illusion's develops Battlefield 2142 Digital illusion's CE Ltd (publ) 2006-03-21 The struggle for överlevnad utspelar itself years 2142. Sweden's bigest spelutvecklare digital illusion's develops a new title in the price awarding a prize to take Battlefieldserien: Battlefield 2142 for pc. The longed-for playing is planned to be launched over the whole world during the autumn 2006. Publishers are Electronic art. In the middle of October 2005 signed digital illusion's agreements about a pc playing in shootergenren that now is named. the pc playing Battlefield 2142 builds on same technical stand that Battlefield 2 and is developed on the company's Stockholmskontor. The playing is an independent product and to be based on digital illusion's own trademark. - Battlefield has long been synonymous with innovative and förstklassig multiplayeraction. Now, we take stridden in in the future, says Marcus's Nilsson, senior producer on digital illusion's. The document in the new product utspelar itself in the future. In Battlefield 2142 is forced the players to choose between two militära superpowers in the crucial kind for överlevnad. Years 2142 has a new glacial period lame big parts of the land and the world powers collects their forces. Up to 64 players can meet each other in two teams. With the player's success, advancement and awards follow in the form of new weapons, medals and a lot of more. Electronic art relocates and distributes Battlefield 2142. The lance ring is deliberate to the autumn 2006. Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Trippy on March 21, 2006, 08:00:23 PM What I want out of next FPS is more RTS elements - give commander some resources, extra for kills/meat goals, and give him control over spawning mechanical units. If you feel really ambitious make building and defending special pads (i.e. factory or helipad) required for getting specific type of units. You mean like they have in Natural Selection?Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: sinij on March 21, 2006, 08:06:12 PM Never played Natural Selection... What I want out of next gen of FPS is more strategical elements, maybe even some base building. Rush the tower while dodging AWP whores gets old from FPS to FPS - time to let player build that tower, in a different spot every time.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Trippy on March 21, 2006, 08:14:58 PM Never played Natural Selection... What I want out of next gen of FPS is more strategical elements, maybe even some base building. Rush the tower while dodging AWP whores gets old from FPS to FPS - time to let player build that tower, in a different spot every time. Natural Selection (http://www.unknownworlds.com/ns/) and Savage (http://www.s2games.com/savage/index.php?page=savageindex) are both hybrid FPS-RTS games. Battlezone (the updated one, not the original) also had an interesting base building interface built into a FPS game.Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Samwise on March 22, 2006, 02:55:52 PM Never played Natural Selection... Why on earth not? It sounds like it's the game you've been waiting for. Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: sinij on March 22, 2006, 05:00:34 PM They use Steam. I refuse on principle to take part in anything Steam-related. They killed my favorite game CS and for that I could never forgive them, even that now they seem to fix most of the initial problems.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: schild on March 23, 2006, 02:24:50 AM I understand why I don't buy EA products or Square Enix products, but you refuse to take part in anything Steam related? What's with the Steamhate? Why is there Steamhate? Is the footprint for it too big? I've found Steam to be nothing but the easiest game delivery program in existance.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Trippy on March 23, 2006, 02:47:39 AM I understand why I don't buy EA products or Square Enix products, but you refuse to take part in anything Steam related? What's with the Steamhate? Why is there Steamhate? Is the footprint for it too big? I've found Steam to be nothing but the easiest game delivery program in existance. I don't know what sinij's reasons are but to me Steam is fucking bloated piece of crap DRM spyware. Until they change it so you can play single player games without needing Steam running I'm not buying or playing anything that uses Steam (you can search on my username and "Steam" for details).Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Megrim on March 23, 2006, 03:23:20 AM They use Steam. I refuse on principle to take part in anything Steam-related. They killed my favorite game CS and for that I could never forgive them, even that now they seem to fix most of the initial problems. Plz do be explaining? 'cause Natural Selection kicks all sorts of ass. Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: schild on March 23, 2006, 03:49:15 AM Yea, it's bloated. Like I said, footprint. But DRM spyware? Spyware?! Wha? Howso? It's just an (unfortunately heavy) resource hog that turns out to be a unified platform for a good selection of games. I fail to see the problem. I could search it out, but I'd rather get the 1-2 paragraph summary.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Trippy on March 23, 2006, 04:01:52 AM Yea, it's bloated. Like I said, footprint. But DRM spyware? Spyware?! Wha? Howso? It's just an (unfortunately heavy) resource hog that turns out to be a unified platform for a good selection of games. I fail to see the problem. I could search it out, but I'd rather get the 1-2 paragraph summary. I consider it spyware cause they require you to connect to Steam to play single player games. Why is that necessary other than to track your game playing habits? Multiplayer: fine, I can begrudgingly accept the tracking since they are providing a match making service but not if I just want to play by myself.Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: schild on March 23, 2006, 04:03:22 AM Wasn't it recently announced that you didn't actually have to connect to Steam to play the single player games anymore? I could check on this laptop, but it's sleep time now.
Real quick though, I don't mind connecting to Steam. I like that insanely datamined report that shows up every so often. Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Trippy on March 23, 2006, 04:16:35 AM According to the support page (http://support.steampowered.com/cgi-bin/steampowered.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=213) it has not changed and I don't have Steam installed (obviously) to check it. Note that the FAQ implies that you can play without connecting through Steam but it's fucking bullshit. You have to *physically* disconnect your machine from the Internet for the offline mode to work. If you are connected to the Internet and Steam is not running and you try to run in single-player mode it will not work. It also doesn't work if you don't explicitly switch it into "offline" mode before hand which requries you to connect to Steam first. In other words if you make the mistake of disconnecting your laptop and trying to play the game without first having gone through the offline setup you are still screwed.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Miasma on March 23, 2006, 06:07:56 AM I haven't bought Half life 2 for the same reasons that Trippy has given. Steam is an ugly piece of junk rife with problems and I have heard far more bad than good about it.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: bhodi on March 23, 2006, 09:00:23 AM And the damn friends list thing never works for me. always with the "cannot connect"
With that said, NS rocks. I wish they'd hurry and release the beta based on the HL2 engine already... Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Furiously on March 23, 2006, 09:17:35 AM I had no problems with it when I had no internet for 2 weeks at home. Gave me time to finish HL2...
Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: sinij on March 23, 2006, 02:57:56 PM Plz do be explaining? 'cause Natural Selection kicks all sorts of ass. When Steam came out first it was very slow and would not allow to play games offline. Since I liked CS and they SHUT DOWN main matchmaking service I went and suffered through its buggy release pains. At one point I had to restore my system from backup when Steam botched something, thankfuly I had backups. What made me leave CS and swear to never touch Steam/Valve products when they banned my account for using no-cd patch. Fags. Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Toast on March 23, 2006, 03:12:35 PM I love how almost everyone forgets Battlefield: Vietnam.
What a terrible game. Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: WayAbvPar on March 23, 2006, 04:10:20 PM Yeah, it pretty much sucked. I ended up buying it like 2 weeks before 2 came out (I didn't realize 2 was imminent). Played it for a few days, then went back to 1942.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: schild on March 23, 2006, 04:12:44 PM Plz do be explaining? 'cause Natural Selection kicks all sorts of ass. When Steam came out first it was very slow and would not allow to play games offline. Since I liked CS and they SHUT DOWN main matchmaking service I went and suffered through its buggy release pains. At one point I had to restore my system from backup when Steam botched something, thankfuly I had backups. What made me leave CS and swear to never touch Steam/Valve products when they banned my account for using no-cd patch. Fags. No CD patches are pretty damn good at fucking things up. I can't say I wouldn't have banned you. When I was at BHG we had to issue a patch because of NoCD thing fucking up multiplayer. Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Azazel on March 24, 2006, 07:55:39 PM I love how almost everyone forgets Battlefield: Vietnam. What a terrible game. I got it free with a Pizza. No shit. It didn't stay installed for long. Though it still did better than NFS:UG2, which I never got around to installing at all... Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: sinij on March 25, 2006, 12:20:35 PM Quote No CD patches are pretty damn good at fucking things up Especially when you consider that game I get baned for using with No CD was CS and as a matter of fact does not have a CD. Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Azazel on March 25, 2006, 08:12:56 PM You're being obtuse.
If you don't have a CD for it, the version of CS you have is likely the free mod version of Half-Life (if it's not the Steam version, and it obviously wasn't). This makes the CD for it the HL1 CD. if there were no CD at all, you wouldn't have had a No-CD .exe applied.. Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: sinij on March 26, 2006, 11:25:37 AM I'm afraid I wasn't clear - version of CS I played for YEARS never required me to use any CDs for it to play it. As a matter of fact I no longer even own any CDs for it and was happy playing it that way since-before bunnyhopping desert eagle days. Yet I got banned for no cd... WTF?
Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Samwise on March 28, 2006, 01:32:01 PM I'm afraid I wasn't clear - version of CS I played for YEARS never required me to use any CDs for it to play it. As a matter of fact I no longer even own any CDs for it and was happy playing it that way since-before bunnyhopping desert eagle days. Yet I got banned for no cd... WTF? It still did originally come on a CD, though. With an associated CD key that uniquely identified it, corresponding to a unique WAN ID that you'd use any time you played an Internet game. Perhaps you were using an invalid CD key, like half the other CS players who "borrowed a friend's"? Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Soukyan on March 28, 2006, 01:53:03 PM So let me get this straight... BF2142. They want to compete with the Unreal Tournament AND Quake series of games? Good. Luck.
I was never big on Quake, but the UT games just flat out lay the smack down and put many other multiplayer FPSes to shame. IMHO, of course. Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Azazel on March 29, 2006, 12:18:01 AM So let me get this straight... BF2142. They want to compete with the Unreal Tournament AND Quake series of games? Good. Luck. I was never big on Quake, but the UT games just flat out lay the smack down and put many other multiplayer FPSes to shame. IMHO, of course. Looks more like EA decided to milk the DICE/BF thing a little more.. Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Wolf on March 29, 2006, 04:44:32 AM When I saw the trailer, all I was thinking was: "lol. quakewars.ea"
Title: Re: Battlefield 2142 Post by: Sky on March 30, 2006, 09:49:49 AM I enjoyed BF:V quite a bit, though 1942 is still my favorite. 2142 seems to continue moving in a direction away form the slower, more tactical gameplay I loved in 1942.
I didn't like DC, either. Though I was a pilot in my 1942 clan, I can't stand the speed of the jets (in DC and BF2), like everything else, it's just too fast, the weapons too high damage, probably too many commas in this sentence, etc. Giant robots? I'll pass. |