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Title: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: TheWall on February 07, 2006, 01:18:42 PM
I played UO pre Trammel. It was the best of the best for my money and for no other reason then the players could interact with eachother and the environment in so many ways. It made the world feel real and dangerous. Success meant so much more then it has in any other MMO I have played. I don't want to play an emulated server or anything like that.

I'm just curious if there are any games out there now that come close to the fun that was UO.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: schild on February 07, 2006, 01:20:01 PM
Here we go again.

(http://www.talking-heads.net/graphics/david/bigsuit.jpg)


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: TheWall on February 07, 2006, 01:21:44 PM
I don't get it. But then I don't know what catass means either.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Nyght on February 07, 2006, 01:26:14 PM
Perhaps we should just join the world of missing persons.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Nebu on February 07, 2006, 01:26:23 PM
I don't get it.

1. This topic has been replayed more than "Dancing Queen".

2. It's easy to look back on the past with rose-colored glasses.  It's often referred to as "romanticizing the past".


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Yegolev on February 07, 2006, 01:28:46 PM
Someone go get the Myopic Turdburglar.  I'll let him give you the advice I gave him: sub to Horizons.

Schild: nice pic!

A serious suggestion to TheWall: sub to EVE.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Rasix on February 07, 2006, 01:31:34 PM
Hmmmmm.. so many pre-canned responses and so little time. 

You're obviously just looking to gank people, you dirty little PK griefer.  So, take Yegolev advice and try EVE; they've got open PVP.  Just bring a book for the travel times.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Fargull on February 07, 2006, 01:31:52 PM
Would U Atleast do a post search with UO as the focus.

Damn Schild, I actually laughed at the picture.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Venkman on February 07, 2006, 01:32:15 PM
I played UO pre Trammel. It was the best of the best for my money and for no other reason then the players could interact with eachother and the environment in so many ways. It made the world feel real and dangerous. Success meant so much more then it has in any other MMO I have played. I don't want to play an emulated server or anything like that.

I'm just curious if there are any games out there now that come close to the fun that was UO.
What have you been playing since 1999? It'll help drive you to a new game to understand what you've been playing since.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: TheWall on February 07, 2006, 01:38:44 PM
I don't need to search on UO because I don't want to discuss or find out about UO. I just want to know if any games have a similar play style.

I've played SWG, DAOC, COH and WOW. COH didn't last more than my first travel power. SWG didn't last more than my free month. DAOC I played for two years before the TOA stuff set the post 50 bar to high. I have just ebayed my WoW account.

I'm looking for something new that is as close to the fun as I once had in UO. Of course I am looking at the past with rose colored glasses. I'm sorry for the nostalgia.

I'll look into EVE. I don't know much about it. I'm to casual a player to ever become a mega PK or griefer. I just want to play in a world that is dangerous and interactive. And yes, if I kill you, I want to take your stuff.  :-D


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Yegolev on February 07, 2006, 01:57:48 PM
Saerching on "UO" will just save everyone here some typing effort.  Except me.

In the spirit of the olden days, I'll SirBruce this... with a smile, of course:

I'll look into EVE.
You should.  It's better than UO.

I don't know much about it.
Me too, and that's after going through the four-hour tutorial twice and playing with established people.

I'm to casual a player to ever become a mega PK or griefer.
Even casuals can grief in EVE.  You do need to learn the ropes first, otherwise one of the first words you will learn is CONCORDOKKEN.

I just want to play in a world that is dangerous and interactive.
How much more interactive do you want outside blowing up people and mining asteroids?

And yes, if I kill you, I want to take your stuff.  :-D
Welcome to your new obsession.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Signe on February 07, 2006, 07:02:45 PM
I THINK Schild was trying to say, "same as it ever was".  I could be wrong but it would be just like him.  He likes to go all gray and blurry around the edges.



Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: schild on February 07, 2006, 07:04:47 PM
What else would I have been trying to say?


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Signe on February 07, 2006, 07:16:39 PM
I was only trying to be kind to poor TheWall.  He seemed to be confused. 


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Righ on February 07, 2006, 07:22:31 PM
What else would I have been trying to say?

Take me to the river?


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: schild on February 07, 2006, 07:23:48 PM
What else would I have been trying to say?

Take me to the river?

Heh.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Issele on February 07, 2006, 08:42:24 PM
Eve does look good. I plan to give it a go here soon:  http://www.gamespot.com/news/6143833.html


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: tar on February 08, 2006, 02:05:52 AM
What else would I have been trying to say?

First thing that came to mind was 'Road to Nowhere'


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Alkiera on February 08, 2006, 05:55:41 AM
Eve does look good. I plan to give it a go here soon:  http://www.gamespot.com/news/6143833.html
Quote from: ffe_neo link=http://www.gamespot.com/news/6143833.html
I just picked this up the other day and I have to admit I wasn't impressed. I thought it was overly compicated and really aimless in comparison to some other MMOs available which I have recently played (CoV, WoW, etc.) and after playing a few hours on my first day I pretty much thought I had made a huge mistake but I came back the next day and tried it again and gave it a bit more time and it has really grown on me in the last few days. I love playing it now and I've even got a couple of friends trying it too. The best part is you can play it windowed! So I can play and read Gamespot at the same time hehe.

Emphasis mine.  Egads, man.  Like, the best part of a stationary bike is that you don't need both hands, so you can excercise and play russian roulette at the same time...  A practice I highly recommend to the author of that comment.

Alkiera


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Venkman on February 08, 2006, 05:59:38 AM
Are the universal chat channels still dominated by what books people are reading while they travel?  :roll:


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Murgos on February 08, 2006, 06:22:54 AM
Are the universal chat channels still dominated by what books people are reading while they travel?  :roll:

Dunno, I stay in the f13 channel.

I don't actually think travel is all that slow, jumping across 10 systems in EVE is no slower than going from say Freeport to Qeynos in EQ2, with griffons - I have had very little reason to travel farther than that yet but I r still nub.  The problem is that it can be entirely 'hands-off' and non-interactive.  You set up a route, turn on the auto-pilot and then there is nothing to do but catch 5 minutes of whatever show happens to be on the tube, unless you are cutting a corner through contested space.  If you are doing some crazy trade route across 150 systems (EVE is HUEG) all through > .5 space then yes, I would bring a book.

My answer to that is 'resist the urge to catass'.  Yes, huge volume trading looks like you can make 100's of millions of ISK with little or no risk, just a MASSIVE time investment, however you are abandoning your soul to the spreadsheet.

The final thing I have to say is that EVE is a slow paced game - don't expect anything else.  It is perfect for casual gamers though.  One or two sessions for 2 or three hours a week is plenty but there is also an enormous depth there if you want to devote more time to it than that.

Though some appearance customization would be nice.

edit: Also, as laughably as it sounds, EQ2 is making great stides as well.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: HaemishM on February 08, 2006, 09:38:01 AM
I don't get it. But then I don't know what catass means either.

It means...

Same as it ever was.
Same as it ever was.
Same as it ever was.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: schild on February 08, 2006, 09:49:53 AM
It brings a tear to my eye that this thread made it past the second post.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Furiously on February 08, 2006, 10:40:48 AM
It brings a tear to my eye

great - now I'll have steve winwood stuck in my head.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: schild on February 08, 2006, 10:43:27 AM
It brings a tear to my eye

great - now I'll have steve winwood stuck in my head.

That's entirely and completely your fault.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Nebu on February 08, 2006, 10:54:19 AM
great - now I'll have steve winwood stuck in my head.

Better Steve than this.

(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:SPm7tNrgealTBM:http://www.linkclub.or.jp/~yk-elton/captain.tennille.3.jpg)


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Murgos on February 08, 2006, 11:11:00 AM
It brings a tear to my eye that this thread made it past the second post.

If you had grief linked the goat instead of some sly joke I am sure it would have died right there.

Probably would have been the appropriate way to deal with the subject anyway, what did that WUA thread get up to?  30 pages?  If the guy can't be assed out to look at a thread that goes into that kind of detail on the subject he's asking about (even when he is told that the subject exists) then he probably deserved a little bit of the goatse, or rainbow tub girl...


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: schild on February 08, 2006, 11:18:17 AM
Speaking of tub girl, my birthday is next week.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Murgos on February 08, 2006, 11:30:02 AM
Speaking of tub girl, my birthday is next week.

It better not be friday.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: schild on February 08, 2006, 11:39:36 AM
Speaking of tub girl, my birthday is next week.

It better not be friday.

Yours better not be wednesday.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Alkiera on February 08, 2006, 11:48:29 AM
Speaking of tub girl, my birthday is next week.

It better not be friday.

Yours better not be wednesday.

Mine is two weeks from yesterday.

Alkiera


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Murgos on February 08, 2006, 12:44:38 PM
Speaking of tub girl, my birthday is next week.

It better not be friday.

Yours better not be wednesday.

No, it's friday.  :roll:


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: WindupAtheist on February 08, 2006, 12:58:21 PM
UO forevar?

No seriously, play EVE I guess?  I don't know much about it, but it's pretty much the only game around that's any different from the DAoC/WoW/Whatever that you've already played.  I still play UO, but then I'm a carebear.  So yeah, EVE or STFU and play graphical Diku like everyone else.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Morfiend on February 08, 2006, 02:01:08 PM
What else would I have been trying to say?

I love you?


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: tazelbain on February 08, 2006, 02:12:20 PM
Buzz words like interactive bug me.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Nebu on February 08, 2006, 02:18:05 PM
Buzz words like interactive bug me.

I feel that "interactive" dovetails nicely into the blogosphere.  Especially when coupled with proper netiquette.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Furiously on February 08, 2006, 02:26:48 PM
I think you are just trying to create some positive synergy there Nebu.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: schild on February 08, 2006, 02:30:24 PM
If I were to create a new vernacular, I'd call it Cowboy Bebop.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Furiously on February 08, 2006, 02:33:37 PM
You recommended that anime to me before. I can't stand things with dogs.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: schild on February 08, 2006, 02:34:19 PM
Everyone recommends Cowboy Bebop. But I wasn't recommending it. I was just being silly with things that aren't buzzwords.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: tazelbain on February 08, 2006, 02:39:29 PM
You recommended that anime to me before. I can't stand things with dogs.
So you would like Wolf's Rain.  No dogs.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Furiously on February 08, 2006, 02:47:28 PM
I hate it when people don't get a Joke. (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=5055.msg157467#msg157467)

Cowboy Bebop rocks. (pun intended).


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: tazelbain on February 08, 2006, 02:49:23 PM
I got it, you didn't get mine.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: schild on February 08, 2006, 02:58:46 PM
I got the crossthread fun also.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: MrHat on February 08, 2006, 08:51:10 PM
They should make a "Bible Times" MMO.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: schild on February 08, 2006, 08:51:57 PM
They should make a "Bible Times" MMO.

You mean, A Tale in the Desert. They should make a tale in the desert. But fun. And with a year end event of crucifixion. Then the server resets.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: MrHat on February 08, 2006, 08:56:32 PM
No crafting.

All whips.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: schild on February 08, 2006, 08:59:37 PM
No crafting.

How else are the jews going to build the pyramids?


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: MrHat on February 08, 2006, 09:11:13 PM
Irish slaves.

Edit: DuH!


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Yegolev on February 09, 2006, 09:06:28 AM
Agreeing with the Turdburglar is unnerving.  Somebody take his meds away.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: WindupAtheist on February 09, 2006, 07:36:23 PM
If he came on and said "I played EVE and I'm tired of it, now I want a new game that isn't just Diku." then I'd probably say something like "Try UO if you absolutely have no concern for graphics whatsoever."  With SWG having gone to the dogs, the field of MMOs that aren't just class/level/dingdingding is just that thin.


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: Cheddar on February 09, 2006, 07:49:54 PM
If he came on and said "I played EVE and I'm tired of it, now I want a new game that isn't just Diku." then I'd probably say something like "Try UO if you absolutely have no concern for graphics whatsoever."  With SWG having gone to the dogs, the field of MMOs that aren't just class/level/dingdingding is just that thin.

[/concur]

I really wish we had more hopes for the future, but for now EQ2 is gonna have to be my Mecca. 


Title: Re: In search of the great interactive MMORPG
Post by: glennshin on February 10, 2006, 09:15:32 AM
You didn't have to LOVE griefing and killing people to love UO.

The reason UO has a place in my  :heart: is that no other game I have played SINCE has ever had that much FREEDOM in an MMO. You can chop down some lumber, whittle them into arrow shafts, kill some birds, take their feathers and make arrows. steal horses, etc. etc. Hell, my coulsin and I shoplifted SO much from the Jhelom magic shop that I eventually ended up w/ a fairly full spellbook AND that was the only reason I became a caster.

If another MMO can have as much freedom as UO did, w/ just a bit more structure, it would be the sweetest. There HAS to be some consequenses though for the simple fact that it is the internet and anyonymity just seems to bring out the worst in some people.