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Could use some laser shield hardeners

I don't believe shield hardeners work like that - I think they only guard against damage types, not weapon types (so Kinetic, Thermal, Explosive, EM).

I might be wrong, as I'm not in a position to look these things up, although I have had shield hardeners before.

Sorry EM shield hardeners.

I need a new Gallente frigate after last night's debacle (tip for all you kiddies out there- the Monastery is a bad place for little ships). Or I might decide to go with a destroyer. Or switch racial ships and try something else.

On the off chance that someone comes across named heavy missile launchers, I'd enjoy a couple of those.

Damn, someone should've started this thread earlier. I've sold like, three or four.

I'll keep an eye out.  I pick up one or two on a few missions, but I haven't been getting those missions at the new agent.  Probably because I only have a 2.8 reputation with him.  My last agent was 7.9.

I've got a bunch of small stuff I've been picking-up, though.  Anyone flying frigates, or putting small guns/ normal launchers on their cruisers?

I will be in the small gun class for the next couple of weeks at a minimum.

Is that where they teach you not to point it at something you don't want to shoot?

I don't think it matters who you point it at since it won't hurt anything more than a couple of meters away.

http://www.eve-online.com/guide/en/g26.asp

Learn all about guns and tracking and speed. I'm sure someone else linked it somewhere earlier. But, this is really important stuff here.

Yeah I have read it a few times. Not sure how much I understand (or care to), but I get the basic concepts.

I am interested in cargo expanders or mining upgrades, or Mining II lasers.  The loot I find is barely useful to me, but I will watch for things.  Is this the right thread to ask for an Exequror?

Interested in fancy heavy missile launchers, shield boosters (at least TechII, or 90 healed units/interval), special Large shield extenders.

I'll try to keep an eye out for fancy loot I find. Just sold a bunch, and I'm now nearing 20m ISK in my wallet.

Buncha rich boys in our corp. Funny how the CEO is broke and all you blokes are rolling in the money.  :mob:


 :evil:

wander over 2 systems and kill rats for an hour or two. You should walk away with about 10M isk. (I'm guessing you will get at least 1 5M drop there though).

Like I have time for ratting!  :roll:

Ok - grab 5000 missiles, and head into a complex with me - I need someone to hold all the ammo I will need. You might have to warp with me once or twice too.

Competent Evil CEOs set taxes to a nice rate then "accidentally" buy their stuff on the corporate account.  You're as rich as your plebians make you!   :-D

Shh!

If anyone loots a Medium Energy Vampire, I'd be interested in it. :)

Hey i just noticed a bunch of folks asking for Tech2 stuff.  I don't think any of that actually drops (if it does it's freaking rare as hell. I've never seen it.)  As far as I know, it's all player-made from BPs won in the tech lottery.  Therefore, your only place to pick it up is the market.

Speaking of the tech lottery- do we have anyone going down that path? What exactly is required to get started?

Also- I could use a top of the line frigate-sized AB. I have a 1MH now, but would like a Cold Jet or whatever they are called. They drop a lot, so I am sure one of you will find one for me soon!

I believe we have one nascent scientist (Archlin?). To get started researching, you need science 5 and one of the advanced sciences. Then you go to a R&D agent and start an R&D team, which enters you into the tech2 lottery for a given blueprint. Every day, your R&D team generates lottery tickets for you; you can also do one mission per day for each R&D team you control to double the amount of tickets they generate that day. R&D teams working in different fields tend to work on different blueprints. I think you can view what a given research field will yield the next time CCP decides to hit the 'payout' button, but I'm not precisely sure how.

There's no reason that everyone shouldn't get in on the lottery. You're crazy if you don't really.  Those advanced sciences you need require Science 5 and one of Electronics, Engineering or Mechanical 5. Since you're going to want to max out those last 3 anyway you might as well grab a research agent and have the chance of never having to grind for isk ever again.  Still, it's something to put off until after your learning skills are done and you're working on getting all your support skills up.

Is there some upfront investment required to getting a R&D agent?  Someone mentioned this elsewhere but I don't recall the whole rundown.  With Science 4 and Electronics 4, I am surprisingly close.

I'm going to make a specific point to never mess with the R&D or Production/Factory windows. I'm only interested in blowing things up...or keeping our stuff from getting blown up.

Go here and click on Agents: http://www.eve-tutor.com/

Fine by me, Straz, I really want you nearby when I am eventually flying my tissue-paper haulers.

Earlier I asked for Miner II but after looking at where I might go after the cruiser, I find that I am not really sure what would be a good mining platform.  For the mining-laser part, that is.  I might put seven lasers on a battlecruiser (battleship?) but running those simultaneously would rupture the cargo hold.  I'll ask for cargo expanders and Miner II lasers for now, but I need to think for a while.  And make a mining thread.

Are mining drones any kind of replacement for the lasers? I've been vaguely considering using a couple mining drones when I run guard duty....whenever that is. I've managed to fall asleep at weird times and totally miss everyone's playtimes Sat/Sun/Mon night.

I'm still getting use to working 12 - 8.

Drones are fine replacements for mining lasers, if you are not in a huge hurry.  I'll know more when I can field more than one.

Oveur mentions in this  BPO Lottery bitch thread (http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=273880&page=2) that a change to the distribution system is in the design stages. Hopefully I can make my billions before it gets nerfed =)

Drones are an okay replacement for the standard Miner I mining lasers. They pale in comparison to the volumes you can achieve with a good cruiser and Miner IIs and are completely dwarfed by the possibilities of Miner II battleships or top-end mining barges.

As for a mining setup, any decent mining yield will come from using Miner IIs; they're double the output of a Miner I for less than double the requirements. Sadly, manufacturing those will require tech2 blueprints and they don't drop off NPCs, so you'll probably have to buy them. Or ask one of our pirates to blow up a PC miner and take his mining lasers.

Another use for mining drones is if your mining in low sec and want to kit your ship out for combat (for when the rats arrive) you can do that and use the drones to do all the mining - sure it will be slower but thats the trade off for the additional firepower (or you could kit your ship out to mine and use combat drones for defence)

Update on what I need... thirty minutes from Refining 5, and while I could spend 250k on Refinery Efficiency, I thought I would ask first since I only have 700k in the wallet.  I think I am set on things otherwise, aside from setting my sights on a mining barge one day.

Just a an update for those of you have I haven't seen in game- I ended up buying a Rifter BPO. My alt has it a couple systems from Neesher doing ME research on it, so just holler if you need a new disposable frigate to fly. I figured it would be nice to have some extras around for PvP tackling and the like in the future.

Named variations on the following:
-Heavy Beams
-Cap Rechargers
&
-Medium Armor Repairers

I need a CPU ugrade of some kind. I am .4 points short of pimping out my ride to my satisfaction, which is really pissing me off.

I may or may not use both of my Basic I, depending on how many Miner II I want to fit.  I think I'll just unfit one and leave it in Neesher for you, how about that?  Or, I remember there were some for sale ~5 jumps from Neesher, which is where I got mine.

Miner II BPC or BPO would be a nice thing...

I'll look around next time I fly back to Gall core, which should be next time I play if there is no mining op.  Drones seem cheaper (and I assume BP as well) there as well, if anyone wants to request any.

Think we have a BP for drones already.

Yeah, there is Mining Drone BP in the Neesher hangar.

I just put 20 warrior drones in the hanger in Arzi, so if any of you miners need combat drones go ahead and grab some.  I would have bought thermal drones but they were too many more jumps and for my purposes (finishing off frigate npc's that get under my guns) explosive is better because they shouldn't have any shields left if I'm not screwing up.

Tech2 BPOs only come from the tech2 lottery, even for something as mundane as Miner IIs, I think.

BPC, that should be doable, but it may require morphite and some RAMs to manufacture as well as specialized skills. Tech2 manufacturing is nasty.

I didn't see Miner II on the escrow market in Essence (Gall market region).  I did, however, get a Hob I BPO because I feel that we need one.

As we were discussing last night during our mining run, I think it would serve us well to procure an indy BPO or two. Maybe an Iteron III (I have heard they better than II and IV), and maybe a Caldari (Badger?). We will eventually need to be able to replace them in deep space, and flying them 20 jumps from their purchase area is painful.

We don't need that many indies, so a BPC would work just fine. We can buy some with 10-20 runs for a badger, and one for an iteron. We can always buy another one if we end up needing more. Ship BPOs are pretty expensive, so it'd be better to have a BPC of ones we only need a few of.

My thought was that we could gin up a couple of extras and sell them to other folks in the region. If there are no ships within 15 jumps, folks might just pay a premium for convenience.

Sure, we can do that with BPCs too .. let me check the prices on BPCs vs BPOs..

[edit to include below]

Badger MkII
BPO: 15mil
BPC: 980k at 20ME for 10 runs (98k a run). Guesstimating we'd break even at 154 runs.

Iteron MkIII
BPO: 9.5mil
BPC: couldn't find a Mk3, just a Mk4 which was 175k at 20ME for 1 run. Guesstimating we'd break even at 63 runs.

I guess the hard part is finding the BPCs. Of course, this is just the Kor-Azor region, so we'd probably find cheaper/more copies in the market regions.

You can set escrow to browse globally. It's doubtful that an Iteron Mk3 would sell well, since most people just would use that as a stepping-stone on the way to Iteron 5s, which are wonders of shit-moving technology.

Ah yah nvrmnd my remark about it being in Kor-Azor - it was set to global.  :-D

Always looking for:

Named Hvy Pulse/Beam Lasers
Named Med Nos
Named Webs
Good 200 and 800 plates
N-type active hardeners and energized nano modules of any type

Any chance someone in a big market area could pick up some 200/400/800/maybe even 1600mm nano plate BPOs?  Those are always a pain to find down by Neesher. 

Nano Plate doesn't have a BPO, they're "named" items that only drop as loot.

--Dave

Hey WAP,

The Rifter is my frigate of choice and I'll probably be flying them for a long time to come.  When I lost a couple to pirates and in the wars I replaced them from the hangar which I was instructed to do.  But now I'd just like to have a few extra 'in pocket' at the Neesher station and to pre-stage and outfit at Arzi for example.  What do I need to get you in order to run off a few more; the minerals, the isk, both?  I'm happy to help out however I can and don't want to just freeload. 


More generally about equipment in the Corp hangar... what is the deal with items that appear but are 'greyed out'... has someone sort of locked down these items or what?  I'm not questioning the motive I'm just curious what in fact is going on, I have no idea.

And as far as items go; when I'm ratting or running rat missions I tend to drop stuff off into the hangar for others to pick and choose (the way I do when I'm outfitting my ships) but now I'll know to be more selective about the good, named stuff.  Lately I've been refining the type of junk that we already have a dozen of but if it seems special I'll be sure to leave it for others who can use it.

Someone has put something in the container. When it goes it, it gets locked. So if you grab something and then put it back - it's then locked. I don't know how the permissions are set for unlocking, but try clicking on the item and selecting unlock.

Occasionally I'll just select all then hit unlock.

I tossed a couple of the ME 16 BPCs in the corp hangar- the BPO will be ME 21 sometime tomorrow, so I will run off some more copies then. If you have the mins, the BPs in the corp hangar are fair games as far as I am concerned.

You can unlock items in Open cans, so if you see something in there that you want that's greyed just unlock it. The other cans will prompt you for a password, so if you get a password box (and you don't know the password) you probably aren't suppose to unlock it.

However, if there is a password protected item that you want, we can probably give it up if you just ask.

I'm actually curious to how the whole BPC/BPO stuff works.

I have mining lvl1, and I put every piece of loot either in my personal hanger (if I think I'll get the best use out of it) or in the corp hanger in Arzi/Neesh.  So I'm not reprocessing anything either.

I'd like to be able to just ask for something built and pay in  cash for the item, I would assume it would still be slightly cheaper then open market prices, plus I dont have to go searching for shit (which means I would probably pay over market price, I hate shopping trips).  But I'm thinking, that most people with personal mineral stashes dont really have them to make shit for me, even if they are getting paid.  So what is the solution?

Should the corp itself have big buy orders for ship building minerals in various market hubs that are trucker'd into the Neesh area from time to time then bought by invidual corp members for <x>isk when they are short some minerals for a ship or if they are like me and never mine?

Or should I just put up my own buy orders, buy my own minerals and use them?

Case in point:

I need 4 punishers (we have the bpo) and I need a bunch of light and medium drones and I think we have some drone BPO's.  But I'm not sure how to go about getting them, and I dont want to make stupid demands that are unrealistic because I have never done any mining/building/researching.

Reprocess your non-named loot, or get something with a high refining skill to do it if you want to squeeze out every last drop, and use the minerals to build your own stuff with the corp BPOs.

Is there any skill that is required to build something/anything given that the corp has the BPO?  Can we screw it up if we don't know what we're doing?  Can it be built anywhere (that the BPO is, I mean) or is there a service required at the station, etc?

can't screw it up.

Just have to move the required minerals into a corp hanger

and pssst - little secret - the corp account pays for the manufacturing bay.

You also need to have Industry 1 trained, I think.

If you plan on doing manufacturing in any quantity, especially of anything larger than ammo, I strongly recommend picking up Production Efficiency and sinking the day it takes to get it to PE 3. You'll save yourself (and the corp) a lot of minerals in the long run. If you want to make cruisers, go for PE 4. PE 5 takes a long time, but if you're investing in a battleship or something of similar mineral intensity, then asking someone with PE 5 (hi Caad!) or getting it yourself is a very worthwhile investment.

Wow Caadwin has PE 5 already? I'm impressed. I'm still 9 days away. :)

Oh, and I'm now in the market for any named Siege or Cruise missile launchers anyone finds. Or named battleship-scale whatever. Or assault launchers.

And especially named Ballistic Control Systems. Those things are  :heart:

I <3 Ballistic control systems too

maybe a extender BPC?

how many ppl shield tank other than me?

target painters maybe?

I quite a few spare but just wondering about for other ppl

I shield tank on my Cyclone. Lotsa fun, that.  Too bad there's so few low-slot toys, though.  I just pop-in +damage and +tracking mods for PvE.

I'll be brining a few painters into Neesher Sunday, not a ton of them though I think ~5

I can't think of anything I need other than ISK.  I keep spending it on stuff and I can't seem to reach 4mil.  And nocx to make some Hob I, or some Hob I.  I don't need the Hobs right now.

What I really need is a better ship... and the skills to fly it.

Some Cap Power Relay I. Don't seem to be many around Neesher, and I don't have the skills to fit the named mods.

Needs (pretty much same as always):

-Named Med Armor Reps
-Named Med Nos
-Upper End 800 Armor Plates (mmm Tungstan)
-Named Cap Rechargers

That about covers it.  I check the Arzi/Neesh hangers at least once a week so if you get any of these drops and you can afford to not sell it I will love you long time.  :lol:

Go for the tech II armor repairers - they are much much much better.

I'm considering getting a Ballistic Control System I BPO for the corp

would anyone else use it?

Yar. I use BCSes on pretty much every ship I fly. The raven can use up to 3 of them.