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From Kill Ten Rats (http://www.killtenrats.com/?p=570)

Wow! I've always thought that would be a nice idea.

Ditto.

But I would settle for character management without the client. Last time I checked, you could look at your character stats/skills via account-management. If only you could set skills to train without firing up the client :heart:

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Hello f13.

I was thinking about this a lot last week, integrating web-based Habbo Hotel (http://www.habbohotel.com/habbo/en/" title="Habbo Hotel)ish stuff into a traditional MMO.

Actually there's a lot of activities during low-intensity periods (http://www.raphkoster.com/?p=198" title="Raph Koster: Forcing interaction) that could be moved out of the "game."  Shopping, crafting, guild management, igemail, chat, fiddling around with character/inventory stuff...

Basically a level of interaction between "actually playing the game" and "just cruising the forums."

Yeah, it'd take away some of the "worldiness" of the game, but for some games, worldiness-for-accessibility is the tradeoff to make.  Although EVE's so far in the negatives for accessibility that it's beyond hope.

I don't understand this statement. I had never played the game before, fired up a trial account, and did fine.

The average Jane-never-played-an-MMO can pick up WoW, go through tutorial, get spoon-fed 20 levels, and be fine.

Eve, on the other hand, has less direction, a more complicated advancement system, is a helluva lot slower and, from what I've heard, pretty much requires a Corp to enjoy.

I'm not knocking the Eve, it's a great niche game.  And that's one direction MMOs could definately be taking, especially if development costs come down.

I agree with Cadet here on all counts.   Plus, while EvE in empire is pretty easy to get into and dick around shooting Pirates, EvE PvP gives me nightmares of running calculations and speadsheets for hours to find my 'optimal' layout for a 90 second battle.  (Yet another reason I haven't moved-on to a lowsec base).  I can only imagine the fits your average MMOer would have trying to play EvE.. and that's before their first podding.

I've always thought that being able to adjust what skill you are training on the website would be huge. It's really the only reason I need my personal laptop at work. From the comments I've seen, CCP has always said that won't do that because they always want you to login via the client (which I don't understand - I mean, $10/m is $10/m whether I use their client or not) so it's good to see they are at least looking at alternatives.

I wonder if they are planning on charging for the new cell phone client?

If they are going to do this why not just let people queue up skills for training?

Maybe they don't currently have a way to stop you from skill training after you cancel (which seems to be the case), so if you set it up to train a ton of skills and then cancelled your sub you could come back 6 months later with 10 million skillpoints. It's a lame excuse if it's true.

Interesting way to make sure people eventually resub.

Interesting way of thinking, Schild.

I know people usually set Battleship lv5 when cancelling subscription:)

Anyone knows if this works with the trial account as well ?

Could be a good way to reach frigate level 5 till I have my new internet connection set up in march.  :heart:

I can't concentrate on the words when Wolf's avatars are controlling my mind.

Skill training runs for a month after you cancel your account, assuming you've set a month+ skill.  The only reason I can think for lack of queues is to keep skill training idlers somewhat engaged with the game logging in periodically, saying "hi" to corp mates and what have you.

Anyway, some way to change skills that doesn't involve logging on will be awesome.  Poopsocks can start taking long holidays again. :)

Wouldnt a catass just wait to max their skills then log in?

That is the problem with offline skill adjustment or skill queueing- it makes it that much easier for people who sell ISK or accounts to manage large numbers of them at one time.

In this game I do not have a problem with someone who buys an advanced account.

And to get ISK you have to do something.AFK mining is not very profitable I think.

My only thought is where are they mining? I'd wager there are a few corps that have people paying for their guildleadership's rent.

Or are they mining in high sec for safety and just sitting there afk with a macro throwing it into a dumpster and have a collection agent come around every so often?

There are sometimes large-scale miners that roll though Scolluzer, a .8 system, sometimes soaking up the entire belt.  I would not be surprised at AFK mining since I am able to completely ignore .8 pirate spawns in my mining-fitted Navitas frig.  When I do the drop, I come back with my combat Tristan and blast them, but I figure someone in a cruiser could safely ignore spawns in .7 or higher.

One of my future dreams in Eve is an all-out war on IGE-style operations. Brings up a lot of interesting facets, I think.

Already in progress; there's an interview up on evenews.com with the vigilantes that take on such operations. "Interview with the Macro Killers" or somesuch.

I don't think it will.  I do not think that Battleship Skill itself is trainable on a trial account.  You'd have to make it a legit account, then buy the Battleship skill to even be able to train it to Level 1.

True that.

But I was looking at Frigate (Minmatar) Level 5.
My trial account runs out today. See you guys in game in 2 or 3 weeks.