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Title: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Calandryll on November 18, 2005, 11:31:49 AM http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15672
Quote So you say you want to play in the DDO Stress Test Event? Well here’s your chance! We’ve had a very successful Stress Test Event so far, but now we really want to up the ante and push our servers to their limits. In order to get even more people on the servers we’re giving all of you a chance to join the Stress Test Event. To sign up for a chance to join the Stress Test Event, visit http://www.ddo.com/index.php?page_id=113 and enter your e-mail address and first name. We’ll be sending out e-mails to the first 2,000 people who enter their information. This e-mail will include instructions for how to sign up and download the client. But that’s not all! Tonight from 6pm EST until 10pm EST we will be running a special event on the Stress Test server. Turbine admins will be logged in looking for players who are adventuring in a dungeon. If we find you in a dungeon, you and your party will gain full access to the closed Beta. We’ll also be giving out items to players as well as a few other surprises! Keep in mind that this is a stress test. The servers will mostly likely be unavailable from time to time, even during the event. Slots are limited, so sign up now! Remember also, the NDA still applies for anyone who gets in the Stress Test. The e-mails will be sent at around 3pm or 4pm EST. Also, make sure your spam blocker isn't blockng e-mails from turbine.com! Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Dren on November 18, 2005, 12:19:20 PM I registered for the Alpha and Beta through your site.
I had a friend that got into Alpha send you my email for a Beta Invite. I've gotten nothing so far. I'm not spending any more effort to just get into the stress test. My input is obviously not needed. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: WayAbvPar on November 18, 2005, 12:25:05 PM Thanks for the heads up, Cal. I have a friend who is clamoring to check it out, so I took the liberty of signing him up :-D
Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Calandryll on November 18, 2005, 12:30:07 PM I registered for the Alpha and Beta through your site. Did your friend win a beta referral in the last Beta event? If so, please have him e-mail me and send me his account name (not password) and the e-mail he sent for a referral. We sent out the referral e-mails for that event a while ago, but a few people didn't get them. I can look into this once your friend e-mails me.I had a friend that got into Alpha send you my email for a Beta Invite. I've gotten nothing so far. I'm not spending any more effort to just get into the stress test. My input is obviously not needed. jhanna@turbine.com Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: cevik on November 18, 2005, 01:07:07 PM Alas, no email from DDO, I guess I'll grind in WoW tonight.. :(
Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Roac on November 18, 2005, 01:21:17 PM Sent mine in minutes after Cal's post. Nothing yet.
Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Calandryll on November 18, 2005, 01:28:14 PM Signups are over.
The e-mails should be going out soon. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Merusk on November 18, 2005, 02:00:20 PM Hmm.. no e-mail yet.. and I signed-up within a few mins of seeing this posted. S'pose it's a matter of how long after Cal posted over there to when he posted here.
Ah well, thanks for the heads-up anyway, Cal. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Calandryll on November 18, 2005, 02:03:21 PM The e-mails were just sent. I just got mine about 2mins ago.
Also, the e-mails are coming from gamespy.com and ign.com. They are 1 day free fileplanet access which you can use to get access to the Stress Test. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: cevik on November 18, 2005, 02:14:33 PM I'm in.. I'll download it as soon as I get home.. :)
Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Nebu on November 18, 2005, 02:14:54 PM I signed up after you posted and just received my confirmation a few minutes ago in 2 emails (DDO and Fileplanet/IGN).
Thanks for the opportunity. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Xanthippe on November 18, 2005, 03:55:51 PM Hmmm. Signed up, received confirmation, went to File Planet, it's going to take 3 hours to download, it's almost 4pm Friday afternoon. The stress test is over at midnight tonight, but since I'm going out at 7pm....
Oh well. A little more lead time would have worked better for me. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Surlyboi on November 18, 2005, 04:28:09 PM Hmmm. Signed up, received confirmation, went to File Planet, it's going to take 3 hours to download, it's almost 4pm Friday afternoon. The stress test is over at midnight tonight, but since I'm going out at 7pm.... Oh well. A little more lead time would have worked better for me. Same, I'm catching the new Harry Potter tonight, so I'll miss out. Appreciate the opportunity though. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Merusk on November 18, 2005, 08:15:12 PM *looks at clock* Well THAT only took forever and a day to download. So much for the 200 beta accounts. Just got done unzipping the file and starting the install. By the time it's done I should be ready to fall asleep.
Edit: "This requires the .NET framework 1.1 to install. Do you want to install now?" Right, well I'll be system restoring that out tomorrow morning, but unless this is Manna from Heaven I already can say no thanks to a retail purchase. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Trippy on November 18, 2005, 09:05:45 PM Edit: "This requires the .NET framework 1.1 to install. Do you want to install now?" Why don't you like .NET?Right, well I'll be system restoring that out tomorrow morning, but unless this is Manna from Heaven I already can say no thanks to a retail purchase. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Flood on November 18, 2005, 09:18:17 PM I got in by way of being a sucker (a FilePlanet subscriber).
I'd have to say that AC1 was one of the best games I've ever played, not to mention MMO's I've ever played. So when I saw Cal's post I just wanted to say I thought that was pretty cool, thanks for the oppotunity, etc etc. Label me Turbine gh3y I guess. I have a Dwarven Cleric on Jorasco(sp?) that has reached Stormreach itself and is about to go out and see more of the world. Nothing glaringly bad in my playtime so far, although of course I can find things to nit pick about if I had too. Ehhh anyway not to start a wanna be review. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Merusk on November 18, 2005, 09:32:09 PM Why don't you like .NET? The stupidity of Logging-in to a computer you're the sole user of aside, any time I've had .net it's never given me anything but problems I don't have the time or inclination to deal with. It's not required for anything I do, so I prefer to not have it or be a part of the 'friendly microsoft .net family.' Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Samwise on November 18, 2005, 09:32:45 PM Also, M$ |S EV|L!!!!
Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Flood on November 18, 2005, 09:36:13 PM Mer I feel the exact same way.
I went into the Control Panel and disabled/changed something in User Accounts and got the .net logon to go bye bye. Not sure what I did though now. Very helpful, sorry. :? Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Trippy on November 18, 2005, 09:56:16 PM Thanks to Microsoft's marketing genius, you've confused the .NET framework (Microsoft's attempt to destroy Java) with what was formerly called .NET Passport (now called "Microsoft Passport Services") that later of which does not require the .NET framework.
Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Merusk on November 19, 2005, 05:52:37 AM I probably have, I'm not a programmer or computer tech by trade, just an advanced user. All I know is I had a login screen on my PC when I booted it up this morning just like the last time something installed .NET so out it goes along with the program that installed it.
Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Hellinar on November 19, 2005, 06:40:01 AM I installed the DDO stress test, and hence .NET. It does automatically set up an extra logon for .NET, which is a nuisance. And seemed to cause a new "serious error" at boot up for a while. I was glad to get rid of it when I removed the stress test.
Using .Net would lower the chances of me buying the game. If I *really* wanted to play, I suppose I would learn to live with it. But my basic principle with my home computer is "if it works, don't fix it". Installing .NET violates that principle. Besides which, I code in Java, and don't want to support Microsofts "Java killer". :-) Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Trippy on November 19, 2005, 07:13:38 AM That's odd. Does Turbine still use Microsoft for login services? I had to have a .NET Passport account for AC2 but that was back when MS was still publishing their games. I just downloaded and installed the .NET Framework 1.1 through Windows Update as part of setting up my new computer and it never tried to create a .NET Passport login for me.
Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Samwise on November 19, 2005, 10:52:29 AM Hrm... I haven't seen any extra .NET login since installing DDO. Or anything that uses the .NET framework for that matter. Y'all are just special.
Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Krakrok on November 19, 2005, 02:59:00 PM Was the stress test covered by NDA? I clicked through a bunch of EULA BS that I didn't read so I'm not sure if I can say anything about it or not. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Signe on November 19, 2005, 04:12:28 PM Yes, stress test was :nda:'d!
Shh! Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: MrHat on November 20, 2005, 02:56:36 PM Who's in the beta anyways?
Send me a tell! Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Signe on November 20, 2005, 05:25:48 PM Who are you?
Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Der Helm on November 21, 2005, 03:12:47 AM I probably have, I'm not a programmer or computer tech by trade, just an advanced user. All I know is I had a login screen on my PC when I booted it up this morning just like the last time something installed .NET so out it goes along with the program that installed it. Whoa. This is going to be my second derail today, I am so sorry :crying_panda:But I just reinstalled XP on my new computer and I remember vaguely that I installed something .net (don't remember why though :evil: ) Now I have to select a "user" everytime I start xp. Any connection to the above statement by Merusk ? *back to work* Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Dren on November 21, 2005, 05:17:49 AM I registered for the Alpha and Beta through your site. Did your friend win a beta referral in the last Beta event? If so, please have him e-mail me and send me his account name (not password) and the e-mail he sent for a referral. We sent out the referral e-mails for that event a while ago, but a few people didn't get them. I can look into this once your friend e-mails me.I had a friend that got into Alpha send you my email for a Beta Invite. I've gotten nothing so far. I'm not spending any more effort to just get into the stress test. My input is obviously not needed. jhanna@turbine.com Thanks, I'll have him do that. I believe he said it was a beta referral thing and that I should have gotten an email right away, but I've been checking for about 2 weeks and nothing. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Merusk on November 21, 2005, 05:43:41 AM I probably have, I'm not a programmer or computer tech by trade, just an advanced user. All I know is I had a login screen on my PC when I booted it up this morning just like the last time something installed .NET so out it goes along with the program that installed it. Whoa. This is going to be my second derail today, I am so sorry :crying_panda:But I just reinstalled XP on my new computer and I remember vaguely that I installed something .net (don't remember why though :evil: ) Now I have to select a "user" everytime I start xp. Any connection to the above statement by Merusk ? *back to work* Yep, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Remove the Net stuff and it goes back to power-up & there's your desktop. The only other setting I've been able to find when you have Net installed forces the windows login, meaning you need to type-in a username and password to get on your machine. Thanks, but no thanks. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Trippy on November 21, 2005, 05:57:33 AM Go to Control Panel -> User Accounts. Click on "Change the way users log on and off". Make sure "Use the Welcome screen" is checked. That should get you straight to your desktop in a normal single user setup. If you do see the colorful XP-style Welcome screen rather than the Windows 2000-style login dialog box but you see a list of users that you have to click on, delete the user accounts you don't need or use the Tweak UI tool from Windows XP Power Toys to auto login your main account.
Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Alkiera on November 21, 2005, 09:47:59 AM *blink* Maybe I'm just a paranoid freak, but since leaving Win98's laughable login security, I've never turned on any of the 'auto log-in' features of Win2k and XP. I leave my computer logged in, I don't even have the screensaver set to require me to log back in. I only log in when I have to reboot... which isn't too often, lately. But I do log in those times. I just don't find it to be a trial to type in my 6 character password.
But maybe I'm just paranoid. (p.s. I also have several accounts on my machine, as to get XP to save the login for my linux samba server, I have to have a local account with the same username.) I've been signed up on Turbine's alpha/beta site for some time, I'm just unlucky, I guess. I haven't signed up at the new ign site... I think I read somewhere that I don't have to if I've already signed up with Turbine. Alkiera Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Nija on November 21, 2005, 10:01:24 AM You guys are crazy.
You don't like net 1.1 but you keep system restore going so you can revert back to have it not installed? I'd hate to see how you behave in a domain, where OH NO YOU HAVE TO PUT IN A PASSWORD TO LOG IN. Oh the fucking humanity. Those 6+ keypresses kill me more and more each day. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Signe on November 21, 2005, 10:16:37 AM My system restore is always off because it saves stuff and when it saves stuff things slow down and I'm impatient.
Figure THAT out! Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Merusk on November 21, 2005, 11:10:59 AM Go to Control Panel -> User Accounts. Click on "Change the way users log on and off". Make sure "Use the Welcome screen" is checked. That should get you straight to your desktop in a normal single user setup. If you do see the colorful XP-style Welcome screen rather than the Windows 2000-style login dialog box but you see a list of users that you have to click on, delete the user accounts you don't need or use the Tweak UI tool from Windows XP Power Toys to auto login your main account. Yeah that was already set-up. However, I discovered .net created it's own user that didn't show up on the menu, and I just deleted it. Haven't bothered to reboot the machine yet to see if that works. Usual spew of bullshit. It's a home machine I'm the sole user of, it's stupid to have a login. Piss off, you irritating shit. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Pococurante on November 21, 2005, 11:19:48 AM My logon account is what protects me from my kids... ;) that, and the raw copperwire tracing the keyboard & front panel and down into the powerstrip.
Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Margalis on November 21, 2005, 05:01:24 PM I think the question here is why do you need .NET at all and why do you need to log in when no other game requires that?
Haven't they learned from the amazing failure of MS technology with their own AC2 chat server, not to mention the lobby for the game Impossible Creatures which never worked right and went a long way towards making the game tank. (Hint: A working lobby/matchmaking service is kind of important for an online RTS) Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Glazius on November 22, 2005, 05:27:59 AM I think the question here is why do you need .NET at all Same reason you need to install the Java virtual machine to run anything in Java.--GF Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: OcellotJenkins on November 22, 2005, 06:13:48 AM I think the question here is why do you need .NET at all and why do you need to log in when no other game requires that? Better get used to it. Visual Studio.NET 2005 is a superior development tool and most of the apps you install in the coming months and years will require the .NET framework. Of course, it will be standard on the next version of Windows. Relax, it's harmless. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Hellinar on November 22, 2005, 08:42:23 AM I think the question here is why do you need .NET at all Same reason you need to install the Java virtual machine to run anything in Java.--GF Yes. But you can copy and paste the Java Runtime Engine into your game for distribution, so that it doesn't even change the Registry, and the user is completely unaffected. .NET "integrates" itself deeply with the OS, and thus has potential to screw things up. Given a choice, I'd rather wait till Vista and get a pre-integrated .NET. Given there are so many games out there, adding something that forces a user to change how they use their computer is going to lose you a few sales. But that might be worth it if .NET makes development easier. It exactly the same with Java. The positives are all in the development side, none in the distribution. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Nija on November 22, 2005, 09:04:11 AM Is this slashdot?
Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: AOFanboi on November 22, 2005, 09:15:02 AM The reason installing the .Net runtime might add new (local) users to a machine is that the ASP.Net component adds one; though as far as I can tell that's under the hood. My Windows install threw up the login screen/user selection after I installed SQL Server dev. edition, though it only listed the one user I had defined at install...
And this is not Slashdot - not too many games run on Linux you know. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: OcellotJenkins on November 22, 2005, 09:28:07 AM I think the question here is why do you need .NET at all Same reason you need to install the Java virtual machine to run anything in Java.--GF There are plenty of positives for the user. Eliminating "DLL Hell" being one of them, and another is being able to install an application by just copying files to a directory (just like good 'ol DOS). How about having multiple versions of an app installed at the same time without them interfering with each other? Reducing the need for the registry? I see little reason to complain about .NET from either a developer or user standpoint. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Merusk on November 22, 2005, 11:42:04 AM The reason installing the .Net runtime might add new (local) users to a machine is that the ASP.Net component adds one; though as far as I can tell that's under the hood. My Windows install threw up the login screen/user selection after I installed SQL Server dev. edition, though it only listed the one user I had defined at install... The user I deleted was called ASP.Net, and only showed up on the user list that Trippy pointed me at, not on the login screen. Deleteing it cleared up the login screen and I boot straight to desktop now. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Samwise on November 22, 2005, 11:55:34 AM I see little reason to complain about .NET from either a developer or user standpoint. Aren't you ignoring the fact that it was made by M$ and is therefore EVIL, regardless of what it actually does? Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Hellinar on November 22, 2005, 02:16:17 PM Given there are so many games out there, adding something that forces a user to change how they use their computer is going to lose you a few sales. But that might be worth it if .NET makes development easier. It exactly the same with Java. The positives are all in the development side, none in the distribution. There are plenty of positives for the user. Eliminating "DLL Hell" being one of them, and another is being able to install an application by just copying files to a directory (just like good 'ol DOS). How about having multiple versions of an app installed at the same time without them interfering with each other? Reducing the need for the registry? I see little reason to complain about .NET from either a developer or user standpoint. Maybe. Once everyone has .NET installed. But the first game to take the hit, like DDO, and install .NET also takes the rap for any "weird" things it does. Maybe the "sophisticated" people here automatically blame M$ for the bad things that happen on their computer. But most people will blame the last person in the chain, in this case the DDO developers. The fact that the DDO distribution can potentially change the boot up behaviour for the computer does seem to me to be a "distribution issue". Not a fatal one, but an issue. It seems very similar to the Java distribution issues I'm struggling with a the moment, for similar reasons. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Trippy on November 22, 2005, 04:25:27 PM I just downloaded and installed the .NET Framework 1.1 through Windows Update as part of setting up my new computer and it never tried to create a .NET Passport login for me. I uninstalled and reinstalled the .NET Framework 1.1 through Windows Update and this time it did create an ASP.NET user account. I went back and checked my Windows Update history to verify I did in fact install it earlier and I did (by itself as well, not with any other updates). My other machine that has .NET 1.1 installed on it doesn't have the ASP.NET user account either and I don't remember ever deleting it. Very odd. Anyhow sorry about the confusion.Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Sky on November 23, 2005, 06:37:29 AM Quote Eliminating "DLL Hell" being one of them, and another is being able to install an application by just copying files to a directory (just like good 'ol DOS). How about having multiple versions of an app installed at the same time without them interfering with each other? Reducing the need for the registry? I see little reason to complain about .NET from either a developer or user standpoint. I just started profiling XP for use in our computer lab (hey, we're a mac library), and I really get bothered by how MS handles it's applications. So messy, when OSX bundles all that shit into the .app "file". Drive imaging on macs is much nicer, as well as the aforementioned moving of applications, even across machines.Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: AOFanboi on November 23, 2005, 09:02:07 AM To Turbine: You know your game is in trouble when even F13.net thinks discussing .Net is more interesting.
Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Alkiera on November 23, 2005, 10:07:06 AM To Turbine: You know your game is in trouble when even F13.net thinks discussing .Net is more interesting. Not really, it's because the game is under NDA, so no one really knows much, and those who do, can't say anything. It's part of the problem of NDAs... sure, no one can say anything bad, but no one can say anything GOOD either. Alkiera Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: AOFanboi on November 23, 2005, 11:46:19 AM Not really, it's because the game is under NDA, so no one really knows much, and those who do, can't say anything. Yes, but then we end up going "Dungeons and Dragons Online! Er. Well, how about them White Sox, eh?" like we sort of do here now.We need a gaming equivalent of Aint-it-cool news to spill the beans. Is there such a beast on any of the hundreds of other gaming sites I don't frequent? Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Pococurante on November 23, 2005, 11:46:49 AM Hate to get drawn into a budding OS holy war but I've been installing framework since 2000 and have never seen any weirdness even in the betas. OTOH I've had no end of upgrade woes because some numbskull put a specific version check in their code that prevents later JVM.
Anyway the future of Windows is .NET and those of us who work with it everyday find it a tremendous improvement in productivity over what we had before. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Roac on November 23, 2005, 01:37:52 PM Anyway the future of Windows is .NET and those of us who work with it everyday find it a tremendous improvement in productivity over what we had before. .NET is :heart: Only downside is lack of widespread installs on the framework, but since most of what we do is web or internal, not an issue here. It'll be delt with in next OS release, as mentioned, anyhow. Massive set of standardized libraries (plus DirectX for the DDO guys), plus a managed environment, means (usually) less development time and good support for the libraries. Should mean more time gets to be focused elsewhere for DDO. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Merusk on November 23, 2005, 02:30:26 PM Not really, it's because the game is under NDA, so no one really knows much, and those who do, can't say anything. Yes, but then we end up going "Dungeons and Dragons Online! Er. Well, how about them White Sox, eh?" like we sort of do here now.We need a gaming equivalent of Aint-it-cool news to spill the beans. Is there such a beast on any of the hundreds of other gaming sites I don't frequent? None I know of. I'd love to discuss what I saw in my one-day 4 1/2 hour experience, but it's :nda: so.. yah. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Nija on November 23, 2005, 03:06:50 PM There's a text file on my desktop that might interest you.
Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Alkiera on November 23, 2005, 04:00:37 PM To de-rail again, since we can't talk about :nda: ... Those complaining about the login process, do you reboot/shutdown your machines that often? I mean, how much of your time is wasted having to click your name on startup?
Alkiera Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Hellinar on November 23, 2005, 09:23:00 PM To de-rail again, since we can't talk about :nda: ... Those complaining about the login process, do you reboot/shutdown your machines that often? I mean, how much of your time is wasted having to click your name on startup? Alkiera I do shut down my machine quite a lot. Normally, I power up, go get a coffee or something, and when I return the machine is ready to use. With the login screen, it sticks part way through the process. Then I have to click OK, and wait for the rest of the boot up to happen. Mildly annoying, because it doesn't have to be that way. I'm am the only "real" user, I don't want .NET creating fake users. My point was more that the install was causing an unexpected change in my regular computer behaviour, and generated a spurious error message a couple of times. Not a big problem for a techie user like me, but something you would like to avoid if you are going for mass market. That will include some people who panic if something strange happens on their computer. I can see it being a problem for a while with .NET, until you can rely on the framework being present on your target machines. Its a familiar problem in the Java world, where the Java Runtime Environment may or may not be present on your target machine. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: HaemishM on November 28, 2005, 11:25:33 AM Not really, it's because the game is under NDA, so no one really knows much, and those who do, can't say anything. Yes, but then we end up going "Dungeons and Dragons Online! Er. Well, how about them White Sox, eh?" like we sort of do here now.We need a gaming equivalent of Aint-it-cool news to spill the beans. Is there such a beast on any of the hundreds of other gaming sites I don't frequent? Fatbabies used to be, but I haven't looked at that site in years. And really, spilling the NDA is just retarded. All it gets you is the "you are the cool geek on teh interweb" award for a few minutes, then everyone goes back to their regular posting places. EDIT: Of course, I'm also of the belief that Turbine should go the way of Wish in the DDO beta. Kill the NDA, or at least structure it so that the only thing you can't talk about is the specific bugs. Because really, betas are nothing more than free demos and stress tests for netcode, exploit hunts for griefers and the like, so you might as well just use them as the PR tools they are to the fullest. WoW's subscription numbers weren't hurt by the non-NDA beta. If your game sucks, people will find out about it anyway. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: shiznitz on November 28, 2005, 12:45:15 PM If your game sucks, people will find out about it anyway. See AutoAssault. NDA didn't stop everyone from learning it was boring. At least the devs had the guts to admit it, take it offline and try to fix it. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Hoax on November 28, 2005, 01:06:03 PM See AutoAssault. NDA didn't stop everyone from learning it was boring. At least the devs had the guts to admit it, take it offline and try to fix it. I REALLY want to know how that is going, I'm going to be re-subbed to WoW by this weekend if I can't find a reason not to. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: CaptainNapkin on November 29, 2005, 06:53:15 AM See AutoAssault. NDA didn't stop everyone from learning it was boring. At least the devs had the guts to admit it, take it offline and try to fix it. I REALLY want to know how that is going, I'm going to be re-subbed to WoW by this weekend if I can't find a reason not to. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Der Helm on November 30, 2005, 01:50:57 AM nah, you don't want to know... have fun in WoW :nda: That bad ? Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: schild on November 30, 2005, 04:41:03 AM Don't break any NDAs on my watch, numbskulls.
Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: AOFanboi on November 30, 2005, 09:13:52 AM Those of us not within a Imperial mile of the beta can post lots of totally wild speculation about the game, and you beta players with your ball-and-chain NDAs cannot stop/correct us! Bwahaha! And a one, a two...
1) It's a MMO, so it must suck. 2) D&D works for pen and paper play, and the occasional computer game. A persistent world without a continuing endless quest production? Forget it. 3) Why D&D? There are so many other good roleplaying games that deserve an MMO treatment. But nah, more pantsasy for the masses. 4) The runaway success of AC2 sure is an indication of Turbine's success in their endeavors. 5) Related to 1 and 3: The world does not need another chat client with 3D fantasy art attached to it. Unless it's the World of Gor with Boris Vallejo as art director. :evil: Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Merusk on November 30, 2005, 11:03:30 AM In case you missed it, Signe posted in the other DDO thread that one of this month's gaming magazines is giving away a bunch of DDO beta slots. Those of you who want in or liked what you saw in the stress test might want to go hunting for it.
I bought lunch at McDonald's with the cash instead. I hate their food. Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: Xilren's Twin on November 30, 2005, 11:55:53 AM nah, you don't want to know... have fun in WoW :nda: That bad ? Apples and oranges. My 9 year old plays WoW; I gave that up months ago. Xilren Title: Re: Anyone want in the DDO Stress Test? Post by: jpark on December 01, 2005, 11:07:37 PM Any idea when the beta might be "complete"?
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