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Tell me, am I wrong for thinking Picture #3 is funny?

I'm upset.  Are they dead?   :-(

They've been stepped on by a 2000lb bull. What do you think?

I saw that last week, and I want to know the story behind those pictures.

Nope, not gonna click on that ... God only knows what you're willing to burn my eyes with to make a point.

Pit bulls attack six people, terrorize neighborhood; child critically injured

CARY, Ill. A ten-year-old boy is in critical condition a day after three pit bulls escaped from a home in Cary, Illinois, and went on a rampage.
Authorities say the pit bulls attacked several people before police shot and killed the dogs.

No charges have been filed, but McHenry County Sheriff Keith Nygren says a criminal investigation is under way.

Neighbors say the attacks started late Saturday afternoon when children going door-to-door for a fund-raiser arrived at the home of the man who owned the dogs.

Police say the pit bulls attacked the two children, and when the dogs' owner tried to stop them, the dogs turned on him and bit off his thumb. The boy's father tried to protect his son and was attacked. The dogs went after another neighbor as well.

Residents threw rocks at the dogs and honked car horns to try to distract them before police arrived and shot the animals.

So You Want To Raise A Wolf (or Wolfdog)?

Deliberate well on the actualities of raising a wolf - which equally applies to raising wolfdogs - before you think of getting a wolf as a pet. Just a few considerations are:


Legality
Many countries, states and local regions have their own particular laws governing the keeping of wolves. Find out about the laws which relate to your area. You may need a licence.


Neighbours
Before you make a move it is a good idea to consult your neighbours. They may object strongly to howling and perceived danger.


Only one wolf?
You should raise at least two wolves as they need the company of their own species and may well develop behaviour problems if raised as singletons. Of course, two wolves doubles your costs and work load.


Partners & helpers
You should enlist helpers, of both sexes, because you cannot raise cubs alone. At least have a caring partner who is as much accepted by the cubs and as committed as you are. Your partner should take care of the wolves when you are around and also carry on if you are incapacitated or disappear (eg hospitalised, imprisoned, die) so that your wolves are not abandoned to fate.


The new-born
You will have to take your cubs from their mother at two weeks of age (cruel for the mother if these are her only cubs). Later than this is too late as the wolves will never socialise properly to human society.


Bathing
You must constantly swab your cubs' bottoms to empty their anal sacs and to stimulate them to relieve themselves. At their age they cannot relieve themselves without help. There mother would naturally do this herself by licking them.


Food
Exotic animals have special nutritional needs that are difficult for the average pet owner to meet. Your cubs must be bottle fed around the clock for two weeks, then weaned on a diet of high quality meat. An adult wolf needs 1 to 2.5 kg (2 to 5 lbs) of quality meat daily along with bones, skin and fur. Ordinary pet food is inadequate.


Handling
You have to know the proper way to handle a wolf cub. Doing the wrong thing can make incurable problems in later life. For example:


Dogs
Organise well controlled meetings with dogs a few times a week. This will help prevent your cubs fearing dogs when adult. Having dogs as company will also help prevent them completely imprinting on humans. If they imprint on humans they will tend to devote their attention to people instead of their own kind.


People
Organise people of both genders and different ages to be with your cubs so that the cubs can approach and inspect them (not the other way around). This must be on the cubs' home ground so that they are not afraid and can withdraw to a refuge to get away from people if necessary.


Leash & Muzzle
Train your cubs at the right time to wear a leash and muzzle - and make the experience pleasurable for them. Always use a pleasant experience as a reward when they do what you want. (Never use punishment - this applies to any dog or animal.) Whether cub or adult, never let your wolves run about without a leash or they may grow to hate restraint and control. You never know if you may need to use a muzzle some time.

Housing
The minimum housing recommend by the American Zoological Association (modified by any local law) for one large canid is an enclosure of 4m x 4m (12 x 12 ft), ie 16 sq metres (150 square ft), increased by 50% for each additional canid. Fences must be at least 2m (6 ft) high and need an overhang at the top, to prevent jumping out, and an inside skirt buried below ground, to prevent tunnelling.

You should use chain link or equivalent and may need a pair of gates (so that one gate is always closed for security). You may also need an outer perimeter fence at least 2m (6 ft) high and about that distance from the main fence to prevent people, especially children, getting a shock if they try poking their fingers through the primary fence.


Exercise
You cannot duplicate the wolf's territorial needs; nevertheless your wolves will need abundant exercise that exceeds the average dog's demand. Do not keep your wolf in a village, town or city; you both need room for manoeuvre.


Learning & Relationships
Keep in mind what (you think) your wolves are learning and that wolves never stop leaning. You must always ensure that your wolves know they are subordinate to you when they are adult. Should your adult wolves seriously attack and injure you (eg if they try to be dominant), you must carry on your relationship; if you think you cannot then you should not consider getting a wolf in the first place.


15 Years
Your commitment has to last up to fifteen years, for that is how long wolves can live in captivity. Remember: a wolf is for life.

Freaky thing about this is that my husband and I were eating dinner in the local tavern in Cary that evening.  He took me to a bar next to the train station there and while we were eating we heard the sirens.

still boggle over him telling us about an agressive St. Bernard that tried to get at him over a fence.  We owned Saints and trying to wrap our brains around one of those big couch potatoes being aggressive... couldn't do it.

IMHO Cujo woulda been a lot more fucking scary if it had been a wolf hybrid or a pit bull.

St. Bernard's are just too fluffy, even if they are the size of a VW Bug.

I think I'm going to fire up the dv cam and shoot Cujo II: The Whitening... using my 1 year old westie...

ROWR!!!!!!

This is the dog my sister and I rescued from a shelter.
 
(http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/4851/02lokiweb1bj.jpg)

Yes, she is apparently the tiniest pitbull in existence.  She's the smartest dog I've ever seen... and we used to own Alsatians which are very, very smart.  She's terribly  silly and immensely entertaining.  She would only bite you if you bit her first... and probably not even then.  Don't be fooled, however, pitbulls are often  bred to be aggressive.  Same with chows, and some other breeds, but any breed can be aggressive  It has a lot to do with the sort of training a dog has, but also you have to factor in what sorts of traits were concentrated on when breeding a dog.  It's not all that difficult to breed unwanted traits out, however.  (my mother used to breed German Shepherds/Alsatians)  Unneutered male dogs bite the most and children under 10 are the most bit.  If I were the parent of a small child, I would be very careful what sort of breed to get.

I have had dogs that I felt I loved as if they were a family member.  If that dog were to show aggressive tendencies towards humans and if I were not able to have that corrected through training, I would have that dog destroyed in spite of how much it hurt me.  Regardless of how much of a silly person I might appear to be, I do have my head screwed on properly when it comes to things like this.  So yes... if I had to worry that an animal I owned and loved dearly was capable of seriously harming an human I didn't know and could care less about as an individual, I would have the animal put to sleep before I would chance a tragic accident.

This thread makes me sad.

I hate pit bulls. It's crazy how many pit bull mixes there are in the animal shelter here in Austin.

I prefer my pets to be non-lethal. If my dog does go postal because something or someone freaks it out, it's nice to only have to worry about "did it break the skin?"

All the anti-pitbull (or anti-any breed) crap is all because people just jump on the media hype and accept it as fact without seeing the real picture.

There are dead dogs in a picture and amazingly this didn't end up in the den. Hey mods, that's pretty sick.

Next it'll be hey look at all the happy kittens drowning. Fuckers.

I saw several real pictures at the beginning of the thread, they are of two pitbulls vicious and crazy enough to try and kill a bull.

Hi. Welcome to the "bull" part of "Bull Terrier."  Bulldog History. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulldog)

I think this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull) might have been the link you were looking for, although the other is relevent for the history of the orgin breed for pit bulls.

Statistics
Of the 199 dog-attack fatalities in the USA between 1979 and 1996, dogs identified as pit bulls were responsible for 60 attacks—just under a third. The next most-dangerous group was Rottweilers, responsible for 29 attacks (statistics from the CDC).

According to The Age, pit bull terriers have been responsible for four of the seven dog attacks in which Australians have died between 1991 and 2002. The Endangered Dog Breeds Association of Australia denies these figures, claiming that pit bull terriers have caused no known fatalities. Most Australian state governments have introduced new legislation specific to pit bulls.

Although they are short, they have extremely high muscle density and are generally capable of executing a standing four foot vertical jump.

From the Wikipedia link for pitbulls:


While the numbers are relatively small it's inescapable that these perfect pets occasionally are the ultimate nightmare and of all dogs the most likely to snap.  I view having one around the house exactly the same as I view being a gun owner without a gunsafe.

It wasn't immediately clear to me in the pictures that the pitbulls were dead. No exposed viscera and such.

Last night I broke into my landlord's apartment with a screwdriver in about 15 seconds. (She asked me too, locked herself out) I think I have a career as some sort of super-sleuth. CSI, here I come!

This quote made me chuckle:


I saw this one time - damn dog literally levitated straight up four feet and landed on a ramp we were using to load out furniture.  We used to play "fetch the stick" by throwing a four-foot very heavy log and the dog would catch it in mid-air/mid-run without even ducking his head.

The owners had to put him down once he got older - his wife made him as she no longer felt the kids were safe.  I agree with her - damn things scared the hell out of me.  Sweet dog when he was younger though.

Exhibit 4,213,673(b):

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/11/27/D8E5326O0.html

Don't laugh, but when I worked in the ER I saw a lot of bite injuries caused by Daschunds.  Apparently it's not uncommon for them to snap if you get in their face.  Too many trips down the badger hole I'm guessing.