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Title: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: schild on October 30, 2005, 11:55:47 PM Yet another title that people with a PS2 should buy without thinking. It's basically Taiko Drum master, but with a guitar.
(http://us.st5.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/adux_1866_383180) (http://us.st5.yimg.com/store1.yimg.com/I/adux_1869_329666) I think the images speak for themselves but if they don't, you're basically following commands to press a certain fret at a certain time. The string equivilent of Taiko Drum Master or DDR or Donkey Konga. Kick. Ass. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Sky on October 31, 2005, 07:14:03 AM Or you could spend an hour learning a power chord and actually play along with real music. Shit, if you tune to drop-d, you only need one finger just like that crappy fake guitar piece of plastic crap. They shoulda called it Modern Rock for Dummies.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Signe on October 31, 2005, 09:00:37 AM Or you could just learn to play the same chords over and over and over again and form a Status Quo tribute band.
(you'll have to learn to play them really, really good, though) Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: AOFanboi on October 31, 2005, 09:25:06 AM But I thought Status Quo these days were little more than a Status Quo tribute band? Why more?
(I love old Status Quo, though - Quo, Piledriver, Hello) Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: voodoolily on October 31, 2005, 09:34:46 AM They did Pictures of Matchstick men way better than Camper van Beethoven.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Samwise on October 31, 2005, 09:55:26 AM I played the arcade version once and found it very satisfying. This is yet another reason I need to get one of my friends to buy a PS2.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: stray on November 05, 2005, 05:27:59 PM So Schild....
Can you play Smoke On the Water yet? Do you even learn anything from this game (like real fingerings), or is it just for fun? Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Samwise on November 05, 2005, 05:31:53 PM IIRC the fingering is about as challenging as power chords on an open tuning, as Sky alluded to. There are three buttons (arranged fretwise) as opposed to six strings and fifteen frets, and one button/switch thing that approximates a strum.
Guitar Hero is to guitar playing about like DDR is to dancing. Which is to say that it's a fun game but you wouldn't play it to learn anything useful. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: stray on November 05, 2005, 05:45:01 PM Ah, oh well. I probably wouldn't buy this, but it still sounds like a pretty cool idea. The world needs more games that ROCK :rock:
Which gets me thinking....Why AREN'T there more games that rock? We need more action games with guitars. First Person Shooters with guitars. Adventure games with guitars. Sim games with guitars... Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: schild on November 05, 2005, 10:22:06 PM We haven't gotten it in yet in Phoenix. I have one on preorder though.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: schild on November 08, 2005, 10:47:59 AM Motherfuck (http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=280005). That date better be wrong.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: voodoolily on November 08, 2005, 11:09:40 AM That's only a week away. I've grown so accustomed to dashed hopes with regards to release dates that a week is nothing.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: schild on November 08, 2005, 11:13:36 AM That's only a week away. I've grown so accustomed to dashed hopes with regards to release dates that a week is nothing. I wouldn't be so mad if I didn't get a phone call yesterday saying I could pick it up today after 11am. Which means they shipped...AN EMPTY BOX? What the hell is this world coming to? Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Sky on November 08, 2005, 11:52:53 AM Buy a $50 walmart guitar and have someone tune it to drop-D. Then you can get chicks.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: voodoolily on November 08, 2005, 11:55:43 AM The only things I can play on the guitar are the bass line from Astronomy Domine, the intro from From the Beginning, and The Wizard by Uriah Heep. I am a special, special kind of dork.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: schild on November 08, 2005, 12:08:07 PM Buy a $50 walmart guitar and have someone tune it to drop-D. Then you can get chicks. I'm trying to play games here. Not pick up chicks who say they like music but really have no taste at all. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Signe on November 08, 2005, 12:19:04 PM You should pick up chicks instead. How about those hot fems who model for the game companies at all those conventions you like? They have boobies and everything just like real girls.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Sky on November 08, 2005, 12:28:00 PM Buy a $50 walmart guitar and have someone tune it to drop-D. Then you can get chicks. I'm trying to play games here. Not pick up chicks who say they like music but really have no taste at all. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Shockeye on November 08, 2005, 12:36:12 PM Buy a $50 walmart guitar and have someone tune it to drop-D. Then you can get chicks. I'm trying to play games here. Not pick up chicks who say they like music but really have no taste at all. Twitch 4tehwin. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: schild on November 09, 2005, 05:28:01 PM I was GOING to review this. But it just killed my PS2's DVDRom drive. Yay.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Shockeye on November 09, 2005, 07:59:58 PM I looked at it earlier today. I went with The Movies DVD edition instead. I'm weak.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: schild on November 09, 2005, 08:56:55 PM Ok, got a new PS2 for $61 after trading in my old one and getting the employee discount. W00t.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Yegolev on November 10, 2005, 08:01:38 AM Buy a $50 walmart guitar and have someone tune it to drop-D. Then you can get chicks. I'm trying to play games here. Not pick up chicks who say they like music but really have no taste at all. Too much PK. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Sky on November 10, 2005, 08:40:05 AM Only in Eastern European black metal! Or rap.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Hokers on November 17, 2005, 10:58:32 AM This game so completely rocks. Sure the concept is simple and looks easy, but it does take skill and endurance, I am mentally drained after a song. But I am smiling. Smoke on the Water is on the disk in the easy section. Joan Jet's "I love Rock and Roll" is actually the simplest song included. What other games tell you "You Rock" when you do well. I :heart: this game. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Shockeye on November 17, 2005, 12:18:05 PM That's it, I'm going to have to buy this. I cannot resist the urge to rock.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: NiX on November 17, 2005, 04:15:07 PM Motherfuck. They pushed back the release of this AGAIN in Canada. I'm getting a family friend to pick it up while he's down in the states. Nonsensical bullshit.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Merusk on November 17, 2005, 04:50:59 PM "Jukebox Hero" missing from the game seems like such a complete oversight.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: CmdrSlack on November 21, 2005, 06:38:00 PM Yep, it's fun. It's most challenging if you sight read the songs and don't try to practice them a bit first.
No, it's not like playing guitar. But it's fun, so I could really give a rat's ass. Fortunately, it did not kill my PS2. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: schild on November 30, 2005, 12:22:02 AM I think I'm done with the game. I'll still play my favorite songs (Ziggy, Killer Queen, etc), but now that I've beaten Texas Flood on expert mode (and scored over 50,000 with a streak higher than 50), I feel like I've finished what it has to offer me. Now hopefully they'll release more shit. Like a punk/ska version and a death metal version.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: stray on November 30, 2005, 12:38:16 AM The Death metal version would be lame. It's just a bunch of downpicking on power chords and bullshit pentatonic leads (with whammy dives in between every three notes or so). For a game I doubt it'd even be as (un)interesting as that.
Ska: Instead of downpicking, you'll be uppicking high chords, but at half the speed. If you can flow through a gamer riff version of Texas Flood, then you'll won't probably won't be satisfied with much else. Virtually at least. I suggest that you now get a real guitar. :-) Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: schild on November 30, 2005, 12:43:46 AM I played real guitar at some point. But no one was keeping score. Sure, I was scoring, but there was no high score list. Unless you count tattoos. I don't even think I'm talking about games anymore.
I meant fun songs. Shit I can sing along to while playing. A ska version would be idea for that. Also, more 70's rock, but the not quite as popular stuff. No Stairway. Also, needs more Also, an all David Bowie, Peter Murphy/Bauhaus, and Nick Cave collection. I'd be all over that like white on rice. I'd add soy sauce if it was the acoustic shit from Peter Murphey's Alive Just for Love tour. Oh, and I guess they can throw in some old metallica, specifically One or Call of Cthulhu. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Der Helm on November 30, 2005, 12:57:03 AM *derail in progress*
The Death metal version would be lame. It's just a bunch of downpicking on power chords and bullshit pentatonic leads (with whammy dives in between every three notes or so). For a game I doubt it'd even be as (un)interesting as that. Whoa. How can something so simple (and I have almost no idea (technically) what you are talking about) sound so good.Death metal that is. But I prefer Grindcore (http://www.excrementory.de/), not sure if that qualifies as music at all. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: stray on November 30, 2005, 12:57:24 AM I played real guitar at some point. But no one was keeping score. Sure, I was scoring, but there was no high score list. Unless you count tattoos. I don't even think I'm talking about games anymore. I meant fun songs. Shit I can sing along to while playing. A ska version would be idea for that. Also, more 70's rock, but the not quite as popular stuff. No Stairway. Also, needs more Also, an all David Bowie, Peter Murphy/Bauhaus, and Nick Cave collection. I'd be all over that like white on rice. I'd add soy sauce if it was the acoustic shit from Peter Murphey's Alive Just for Love tour. Oh, and I guess they can throw in some old metallica, specifically One or Call of Cthulhu. Ah...Well yeah, better music selection is a plus. What's the "fun" part though exactly? The gameplay (i.e. the guitar) or the combination of that and what's seen on the screen (Which I haven't heard much about. Is there a story or something?)? Get a guitar anyways. You've got a house man. Take advantage. You could crank that shit up (I can't even do that)! Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: stray on November 30, 2005, 01:01:03 AM *derail in progress* The Death metal version would be lame. It's just a bunch of downpicking on power chords and bullshit pentatonic leads (with whammy dives in between every three notes or so). For a game I doubt it'd even be as (un)interesting as that. Whoa. How can something so simple (and I have almost no idea (technically) what you are talking about) sound so good.Death metal that is. But I prefer Grindcore (http://www.excrementory.de/), not sure if that qualifies as music at all. Well, it's not so simple right off the bat.... Actually....Yeah it is. It's "dexterous" though, if that makes sense. That can make it hard to an extent. [edit] When I think of death metal though, I'm thinking of, say, Slayer on one end, and Deicide on another. Not that I don't like any Death Metal because of this, but most of the riffing and leads aren't very complex. They just sound cool and require some endurance to keep up a whole set with. Thrash guitarists, on the other hand, like Dimebag, Mustaine, and the like, or general hard rock guitarists like Wylde or Van Halen are doing far more at the same speeds. I myself prefer to just be slow as a snail. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Der Helm on November 30, 2005, 02:35:41 AM But I prefer Grindcore (http://www.excrementory.de/), not sure if that qualifies as music at all. Well, it's not so simple right off the bat.... Actually....Yeah it is. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: stray on November 30, 2005, 03:19:22 AM Musically? I don't think so. I see more kids and new guitar players pick up on death metal-ish stuff quicker than anything else (actually, that's a lie. Nu metal is worse). Speaking for myself, I can usually jam along with a band pretty quickly and/or figure out songs as I'm listening.
It's hard in the sense that it's painful to keep up at those speeds for a long time. Heh, especially when so many metalheads have their straps adjusted so damn low! That's counter-productive in and of itself. Anyways, I enjoy this kind of stuff more as a listener than I do as a player. I'm not some intricate/complex guitar player guy or anything like that, nor do I think that necessarily makes "good" music, but I like to do more than just drive fast rhythms and power chords all the time. Death metal drummers though, are another thing entirely. I will always be in awe. [edit] That still wasn't much of a "Yes" or "No" answer was it? :-P "No", I guess. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Der Helm on November 30, 2005, 04:07:08 AM "No", I guess. I tend to agree. But I know nothing about music, but I know what I like :-D [/end_derail] ? Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: stray on November 30, 2005, 04:26:01 AM [/end_derail] ? No, it will not end! I just wanted to say that Slayer, for instance, consciously threw off melody or traditional theory at about the time Reign in Blood came out. They know it, they've said it themselves, and they just laugh about it anyways. Sure, they tried to make some catchy albums after that, but it's that album and that sound that spawned a host of imitators. It's this particular metal sound that I'm speaking about in the above posts. I'm not going to try to blame them (or any band like them) for something they're not even trying to be though. Death metal is a style driven more by the drummer than anything else. The guitars fall in place to that.....And that's cool too. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: schild on November 30, 2005, 04:46:22 AM Guitar Hero is incredibly fun. If I was only allowed to list 5 games you must buy for the PS2, this would be one of them.
The others - in no order? God of War, Resident Evil 4, Katamari Damacy (1 & 2, both are short games, and both together cost the same as one game, so I'm cheating a little), and Rez or Soul Calibur 3 (That's a tough call to make). I would list Guitar Hero before either one of the last two though. I think some Top Tens for this generation are in order since we have plateaued. The only thing left are games that companies don't want to bump to the next gen like Final Fantasy 12, Kingdom Hearts 2, Chulip, Black, Okami (which arguably wouldn't be much better on the next gen), etc. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: voodoolily on November 30, 2005, 09:32:54 AM Does it have Cult of Personality? For some reason that song just popped into my head. I woke up this morning with a Billy Joel song in my head. THe one where he says "don't know what it is" and "hmmm."
Picked this up this weekend. It's as awesome as it looks like it should be. (http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~qwerty/wire/images/drivebyshooting.jpg) I :heart: my vinyl collection. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: AOFanboi on November 30, 2005, 09:51:29 AM The others - in no order? God of War, Resident Evil 4, Katamari Damacy (1 & 2, both are short games, and both together cost the same as one game, so I'm cheating a little), and Rez or Soul Calibur 3 (That's a tough call to make). Did you not find it in your heart to put ICO on the list? For shame!Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: voodoolily on November 30, 2005, 09:54:38 AM Ico and SotC should obviously be included, but both are so short that they should share a spot like the Katamaris. Those are two of the best games EVAR, methinks. Classics.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Merusk on November 30, 2005, 10:30:34 AM Does it have Cult of Personality? No. (http://ps2.ign.com/articles/662/662002p1.html) The song list is: Quote # Motorhead - "Ace of Spades" # Ozzie Osbourne - "Bark at the Moon" # Audioslave - "Cochise" # Pantera - "Cowboys From Hell" # Cream - "Crossroads" # Sum 41 - "Fat Lip" # Edgar Winter Group - "Frankenstein" # Blue Oyster Cult - "Godzilla" # Burning Brides - "Heart Full of Black" # The Exies - "Hey You" # Red Hot Chili Peppers - "Higher Ground" # Joann Jett - "I Love Rock and Roll" # The Ramones - "I Wanna Be Sedated" # Bad Religion - "Infected" # Black Sabbath - "Iron Man" # Queen - "Killer Queen" # Boston - "More Than A Feeling" # Queens of the Stone Age - "No One Knows" # ZZ Top - "Sharp Dressed Man" # Deep Purple - "Smoke on the Water" # Jimi Hendrix - "Spanish Castle Magic" # Incubus - "Stellar" # Megadeth - "Symphony of Destruction" # The Donnas - "Take It Off" # Franz Ferdinand - "Take Me Out" # Stevie Ray Vaughn - "Texas Flood" # White Zombie - "Thunderkiss 65" # Helmet - "Unsung" # Judas Priest - "You Got Another Thing Comin" # David Bowie - "Ziggy Stardust" In addition, there will be 17 unlockable tracks from Indie Rock bands, which include the likes of: # Acro-Brats - "Call Out" # Anarchy Club - "Behind the Mask" # Artillery - "The Breaking Wheel" # Black Label Society - "Fire It Up" # Count Zero - "Sail Your Ship By" # Din - "Fly on the Wall" # Drist - "Decontrol" # Freezepop - "Get Ready 2 Rock" # Graveyard BBQ - "Cheat on the Church" # Honest Bob and the Factory-to-Dealer Incentives - "Hey" # Made in Mexico - "Farewell Myth" # Monkey Steal the Peach - "Theme from Guitar Hero" # The Bags - "Caveman Rejoice" # The Model Sons - "The Story of my Love" # The Slip - "Even Rats" # The Upper Crust - "Eureka! I Found Love" # Shaimus - "All of This" A hard rock/ metal lover's dream.. but it'll send 80s pop rockers screaming. As it should be for a game called "Guitar Hero" and not "preteen predator" Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: stray on November 30, 2005, 11:45:47 AM Not great, but that's a better song list than I expected.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Shockeye on November 30, 2005, 12:41:55 PM It's a fun game.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: stray on November 30, 2005, 01:02:10 PM It's a fun game. I understand that, but I'm just wondering what I (or any guitar player for that matter) would get out of it. What's the game besides the guitar playing parts? I already knew how to play through quite a few of those songs listed by the time I was 15 or 16. It was fun then, sure, but this part of the game wouldn't really appeal to me. Is there a story or something? Do you ever have to use the PS2 controller? Do you have to do other band related things like make money for better equipment, find gigs, etc..? Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Hokers on November 30, 2005, 01:50:24 PM Not much story here, it is not a Guitar RPG or anything like that. You can unlock cooler guitars but they don't matter playwise, and the gigs are handed to you, you earn the right to play harder songs in a bigger venue by completing the eaiser songs. Thats about it. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: voodoolily on November 30, 2005, 01:56:48 PM Yeah, it kinda strikes me as a Taiko Drum Master, DDR or Karaoke Revolution kinda thing. It's prolly more fun for people who aren't actually guitarists.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: schild on November 30, 2005, 02:45:22 PM Ico and SotC should obviously be included, but both are so short that they should share a spot like the Katamaris. Those are two of the best games EVAR, methinks. Classics. No, they shouldn't. They're definately in the top 10, but as far as GAMES go, they could use some work. As far as digital art goes, they're perfect. But I'm not judging them based on art. Neither of them are as viscerally fun as REZ either. On a grading scale of 1-10 I'd give the games I listed earlier a 10, ICO/SotC would get 9s. Why? Because those people don't know how to make a good camera. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Shockeye on November 30, 2005, 02:53:06 PM I understand that, but I'm just wondering what I (or any guitar player for that matter) would get out of it. What's the game besides the guitar playing parts? I already knew how to play through quite a few of those songs listed by the time I was 15 or 16. It was fun then, sure, but this part of the game wouldn't really appeal to me. Is there a story or something? Do you ever have to use the PS2 controller? Do you have to do other band related things like make money for better equipment, find gigs, etc..? The game isn't for you. The game is for people that don't play guitar that want to rock. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: stray on November 30, 2005, 02:57:09 PM Cool enough. Rock on, etc.. :-)
I'd like to see someone do the same thing with Music and Rock that was done with The Movies though. That'd be the best way to get my interest. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Merusk on November 30, 2005, 03:16:36 PM Cool enough. Rock on, etc.. :-) I'd like to see someone do the same thing with Music and Rock that was done with The Movies though. That'd be the best way to get my interest. Making movies : The Movies :: Playing Guitar : Guitar Hero :: Building Houses : House Design in The Sims. The more you know about an above game's topic, the more you say, "Fuck, that has nothing to do with reality." It's not supposed to, it's a game. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: stray on November 30, 2005, 03:50:15 PM I meant Music and Rock in the music biz/establishing a band sense. All of the other little things in between the actual performing/recording of music.
A Rock Star Sim or RPG (preferably as clichéd and corny as possible) could probably be a fun game to me. Playing virtual guitar wouldn't. I've been playing the real guitar for longer than half of my life. [edit] When I mentioned The Movies, I'm referring mainly to the story mode.....Which is more about being a movie mogul than it is about actually making movies (well, that part is optional at least). The movie making aspects are pretty nifty, but still, I have more fun and creative power with a real camera or when rehearsing/performing in a play or film project. The Movie Mogul part, however, is something I haven't done and will probably never will do --- Therefore I want a virtualized game/sandbox of it. As a Sim, it's The Movies. If it was an RPG, then I'd get to play the life of Howard Hughes. Additionally, if there was ever to be a Rock N Roll game that appealed to me, then it'd have to simulate the aspects that I'll probably never get to do --- Like riding my chopper through the Four Seasons Hotel ala Jimmy Page or banging Penny Lane. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Sky on December 01, 2005, 07:08:12 AM BLS kicks ass! Some great songs on there, if a bit heavy on the 'big hits' instead of 'best tracks'.
Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Yegolev on December 01, 2005, 05:45:40 PM The more you know about an above game's topic, the more you say, "Fuck, that has nothing to do with reality." It's not supposed to, it's a game. My wife loves building houses in The Sims because it's a lot more fun than building one in AutoCAD, but she did have to give up a lot of tools. Also, you can't have a gay couple live in your CAD design. Title: Re: 11/01/05 - Guitar Hero (PS2) Post by: Hokers on February 07, 2006, 06:31:46 AM After failing to find a second copy in stores, I discovered that you can order a 2nd guitar at the Red Octane web site. Got me a shiny red one. 2 player battles rock. |