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Title: Victory celebration gone bad
Post by: Nebu on October 26, 2005, 01:31:33 PM
I heard about this story recently as I taught for a shot period of time at this school.  The reason I post this is that I'm left wondering if it will have a nationwide effect on this type of post-game celebration. 

Quote from: USA Today
Student dies after goal post pulled down in Morris, Minn.
MORRIS, Minn. (AP) — A memorial service will be held this week for a University of Minnesota-Morris student who died after football players and fans exhilarated by a double-overtime homecoming win pulled down a goal post.

READ HERE (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2005-10-22-goalpost-death_x.htm?csp=34)

I'd appreciate it if you could refrain from tasteless jokes and one-liners. 


Title: Re: Victory celebration gone bad
Post by: HaemishM on October 26, 2005, 01:43:23 PM
I never understood why schools allowed that kind of celebration anyway. Surely that kind of thing costs money in repairs.

Also:

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I'd appreciate it if you could refrain from tasteless jokes and one-liners. 

In Useless News? Did you wake up on the wrong side of reality this morning?


Title: Re: Victory celebration gone bad
Post by: Nebu on October 26, 2005, 01:51:28 PM
In Useless News? Did you wake up on the wrong side of reality this morning?

It's your sandbox.  You tell me where I should have posted it.


Title: Re: Victory celebration gone bad
Post by: HaemishM on October 26, 2005, 01:54:54 PM
I should have put that in green. My snarkiness got the better of me.

Did the school allow this sort of thing when you taught there? I know my high school principal would have shit a brick had we tried to pull down a goalpost after a victory. Not that there were many victories, mind you.


Title: Re: Victory celebration gone bad
Post by: WayAbvPar on October 26, 2005, 01:56:45 PM
It isn't so much that these celebrations are allowed; more that they aren't rendered impossible by adequate security. A few well aimed doses of pepper spray would have kept those goalposts up.


Title: Re: Victory celebration gone bad
Post by: Nebu on October 26, 2005, 02:01:11 PM
I know they weren't allowed... but for reasons other than safety.  Last I knew, it cost like $15k to replace goalposts (at least at the Division 1 level).  Smaller schools try to discourage this for financial reasons. The bigger schools with TV contracts don't care much.

The reason for my request was that while I was there, I was asked to be a positional coach of the football team and I also played basketball with many of the players. I felt connected to some of the athletes there as I was an athlete in college myself.  Seeing a 20 year old lose their life senselessly also bums me out.


Title: Re: Victory celebration gone bad
Post by: Roac on October 26, 2005, 02:46:15 PM
Hard for me to get worked up over the student.  Hanging around a crowd looking to topple large objects is not a good idea, regardless of where you are.  I know my college had people bringing in electric circular saws (!!!) to help tear the thing down, and there were people climbing up onto it and up the poles (!!!).  Not to mention everyone standing around the base.  Which is where the posts land.  I can't believe there wasn't serious injury, and I'm sorry this kid drew the short stick.

There should, however, be some fury directed at administrations that let this sort of thing go on.  Not that there shouldn't be post game celebrations, but stop tearing up public property and citizenry to do it.


Title: Re: Victory celebration gone bad
Post by: Llava on October 26, 2005, 03:02:20 PM
Thus why I sometimes can't help but wonder how the fuck people get so goddamned worked up over this shit.

If I pull off a really, really impressive win in a game, I don't smash a window in celebration.  Who the fuck started this, "I'm happy, LET'S SMASH SHIT!" tradition?


Title: Re: Victory celebration gone bad
Post by: Samwise on October 26, 2005, 03:10:02 PM
In most cases it's the drunken fans, not the actual athletes, who smash stuff up, right?  Emphasis on the "drunken" part.


Title: Re: Victory celebration gone bad
Post by: koboshi on October 26, 2005, 04:46:05 PM
Thus why I sometimes can't help but wonder how the fuck people get so goddamned worked up over this shit.

If I pull off a really, really impressive win in a game, I don't smash a window in celebration.  Who the fuck started this, "I'm happy, LET'S SMASH SHIT!" tradition?

  I'm pretty sure it started at University of Maryland, after an upset win against duke, then a year later after a upset loss, a year later it was just because we played duke. That last year the riot squad was out in force with those damn paint-gun-pepper-spray pellets. That shit hurts when the pellets don’t break. :-o Anyway the second or third year it got coverage on The Daily Show and I think it only spread from then on.
  As for why, as a participant in all three riots, I have to say it was fun ass hell. And I don't even like sports. I don’t think it would have really been a problem if it were just up to the school; they spent way more than the cost of a goalpost on school spirit anyways. But the local neighborhood wasn’t happy about it. Interestingly enough, for a town called "College Park", almost half of the residents didn't see why the school even needed to exist in the first place, much less why it had to be in their neighborhood.


Title: Re: Victory celebration gone bad
Post by: Evangolis on October 26, 2005, 08:20:14 PM
Thus why I sometimes can't help but wonder how the fuck people get so goddamned worked up over this shit.

If I pull off a really, really impressive win in a game, I don't smash a window in celebration.  Who the fuck started this, "I'm happy, LET'S SMASH SHIT!" tradition?

Smashing shit is fun for drunk people.  Some fellow alcoholics I knew had a bottle range set up in the basement, with plastic sheeting to stop flying fragments, where we would throw bottles against the concrete wall.  Then we would laugh and drink more.  Like so many other drunken notions, it seemed like a good idea at the time.


Title: Re: Victory celebration gone bad
Post by: Llava on October 27, 2005, 01:12:15 AM
Sports Riots: Making Prohibition Seem Like A Not-So-Bad Idea


Title: Re: Victory celebration gone bad
Post by: Sky on October 27, 2005, 06:36:51 AM
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As for why, as a participant in all three riots, I have to say it was fun ass hell. And I don't even like sports.
Real nice. This is when I pray for karma to be real.


Title: Re: Victory celebration gone bad
Post by: Kenrick on October 27, 2005, 08:29:37 AM
Who the fuck started this, "I'm happy, LET'S SMASH SHIT!" tradition?

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Title: Re: Victory celebration gone bad
Post by: Pococurante on October 27, 2005, 12:53:19 PM
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