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All MMOG discussion is being moved to its own forum with child boards for the most popular games.

Weekly Game Releases child board created in PC/Console Gaming.

Xbox [Live] forum removed and topics put back into PC/Console Gaming.

M:tG board moved to PC/Console gaming since it's not really "massive".

Game conference and convention forum opened with E3 and AGC discussion moved there.

Post you stealth nerfs here.

In the weekly game discussion forum, I'll be doing a single thread for each interesting game.

For now, the bulk threads have been migrated to it - which you've probably seen by now.

Hey Mikey!  I like it!

Don't know why I ended this pre-maturely.  Anyway... it all seems much neater and tons easier to find stuff.  I like it all tidy like this.  I do regret the sudden demise of Useless News as morning coffee break fodder, though some people seem to be picking it up.  Maybe you should have a contest and vote on the best bit of Useless News found each week... I have an unopened box of RYL I could offer up as a reward!  I do!  Please?

But not next week, as I'll be at AGC. I'll do my regular Sunday thread. Apologies.

Looks good, I like it.

I have also enabled the spell checker to see if it works. You'll see it as an option next to "Post" and "Preview".

I just noticed that... well, after you said it and I clicked "quote".  I'll always forget to use it, though.  I'm pretty sure my typo's are cute.

The giant avatars and long titles play havoc with this site.  Everyone keeps getting smushed into each other.

I've never had that problem. I think your computer has a raging case of Stage III Syphilis.

That happens to me every once in awhile. I usually just hit refresh and it's fine.

Change frightens and confuses me.

I refresh and it goes away, too... but I shouldn't have to!   :-P  I was just sayin', anyway.  And whatnot.

(There, there, wee lawyer.  I used to be like you, back when WTO became f13, but I came to realise change is good.  Boog?  Ray?  Where are they?  NOT HERE... it's good!)

Ohhhhh Spell check, was that for me?

Its was four me.

I don't think I like the new layout. More forums and subforums makes stuff harder to get to. "PC / Console game discussion" didn't have much traffic to being with, now it's got right around zero.

I'd keep the child-boards, but one section for game discussion, one for development - like it was before I guess.

Second.  Before I had a "at a glance" look at the MMOG and whats receiving action, now I have to click on the subforum to see them.  Kinda messed up the rotation.

The other option is to have a million level 1 forums in their own section. I mean, is that really a preferred form of viewing? Cuz I think Child boards are luv.

I'm not a big fan of the child forums, although my main complaint is that if a parent forum has unread child forums, the parent shows up as unread too.  Not that I'm trying to ignore any of the child forums, heaven forbid.  Each of them is special in its own way.

Not sure if there's a perfect solution.  Really, the ideal thing would be if each user could set up a customized "home page" consisting of all their own most-used forums in whatever layout they want.  I don't know of any forum software in existence that does such things, though.

Personally, it irritates me when I'm forumwhoring to see a new post in a forum I actually watch only to find out it was just for Fantasy Sports or some other child forum that's Not For Me.

But catering to the forumwhores is not necessarily the best policy.  And really, I'm not even sure if you COULD set that up.

Oh! Oh! I know!  Let everyone organize the forums for themselves!  User defined interfaced! Million dollar idea!

You guys have the money for that sort of thing, right? Right.

If you could organize the forums yourself, you'd never seen anything that wasn't interesting to you before. Or something you didn't know about. Basically, ignorance isn't bliss when it comes to gaming. Unless you only want to play Madden.

I also hit "Mark Read" for the Fantasy Sports forum. But I deal with it.

Fantasy Sports is where all the cool kids post!

My only complaint with the re-org is the elimination of the Xbox Live area. I liked being able to see what other folks were playing, and to post when I got a new XBL- enabled game.

My f13 bookmark goes to the "Show unread posts since last visit" (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?action=unread) page, then I right click on "Mark as Read" and open it in a new window which I just close.  That clears all the checkmarks everywhere and leaves me with one nice central page to browse through (in the first window that I didn't close).  From there I can either read the new posts by right clicking the thread's "Last" button into a new window, or ignore the post because it is in a thread/forum I don't frequent.

I find it's the most orderly and clean way to do it, so I never really see the forum layout.  So long as someone who wants to start a new thread never abandons the idea because there is no suitable place for their topic it's all fine.  And with subforums like "Game Development", "PC/Console Gaming" and of course "General Discussion" I don't see that ever happening.

Question: Does F13 shut off anyone elses HTTP proxy?  For some reason it seems to randomly shut mine down.  I am still working out as to why, I just do not have the wherewithal to narrow it down in a timely manner.  If anyone else has this issue please sign in!

I do not like the changes, and must be the only one due to others not posting.  Final bump before giving up.


Fuckers.

It is somewhat less convenient for me now that I have to enter the MMOG Discussion subforum to see whether or not anyone has said anything in the CoH forum.

Is there a way to indicate new posts in the child forums from the main page without dechilding them?  Maybe make the color of the link change color?

Aren't you just too adorable when you're frustrated!

No, I just think it doesn't matter.  Not my (your, etc) site, and opinions weren't asked for.

Couple of thoughts:

* I do the same as Miasma and usually just check "replies to my posts" and "unread posts since last visit". The only time I really hafta hunt around is when I post a new topic and wanna put it in the most appropriate place.

* I'm glad MMOG discussion is all in one place (was it in PC/console gaming before?) so I can avoid it altogether.

* Having a separate thread for each new release is intuitive and limits derailing.

* The news box has continued to suffer from neglect every other week or so. Could it have a different function?

* Adding a "notify me of new posts" feature would eliminate the most common complaint people seem to have about child boards, and I've seen it elsewhere (but don't know about feasibility here).

I will look into making the link color change when I get back from Austin.

Is your avatar an actor from some tv show, Shockeye?  I know I've seen him before.  What is he holding?  I love his shirt, too.  It's totally adorable.

Sweet, thanks.

If this idea fleshes out well I vote that Llava get something special, like a pretty color name or something.  In one fell swoop my gripes will be erased and the rose tinted glasses will once again be in effect. 

Llava, man babies?

Mmm, no but ask me again in a few months.  I may change my mind.

It's only a matter of time before that biological clock starts ticking.

It's true.  You're not getting any younger.  In a few months, what man will even want you?

I've touched on this before.

I'm totally hot.  And I will be totally hot for the rest of my life.  I will age like a fine wine.  Or David Bowie.

David Bowie goes to Switzerland twice a year for virgin monkey piss injections administered facially and warm coffee colonic irrigation to keep him looking young. 

Beauty isn't cheap.

Or pretty.

Never look behind the curtain.

I'm downloading a current copy of the website at the moment and will start playing with some things as soon as it finishes.

Ok, as you'll now see on the main board index, child boards light up when there's a new post since the last time you visited that board. The check mark will only appear on the main board index when there's a new post in a main board that you haven't seen. New posts in child forums will no longer cause the main board to light up, just the child board name.

That is totally rad sir.  For your accomplishment I present this cheerleader for you to use. 

(http://www.threewisheslingerie.com/images/dallascheerleader.JPG)

Those are the saddest pair of pom poms I've ever seen.

(http://www.insidecowboys.com/1998/1999/cowboys/Cheerleader2.jpg)

There!

You're my hero.

These two cheerleaders are fighting over you!

(http://kellyanncollins.com/cheerleader-LEAD-red-blue.jpg)

Yes!

Shake it, madam!

Capital knockers.

(http://tatooine.fortunecity.com/bear/353/pyromovie5.jpg)

You are a god among insects.

Caution: slippery when wet!

I'm not seeing the yellow check when child boards get updated.

Apologies if someone already brought it up.

Intentional change, child boards links should now highlight and no longer trigger the yellow check.  The parent board itself will have to have a new post to trigger the check.

I, however, cannot see the yellow highlights on the child links.  Or, at least, I can't see it on Firefox.  It works fine on IE.  I may be missing the appropriate plug-in to make it work on Firefox.

Woah, okay, suddenly it works.  If you changed something, that fixed it.  If not... hooray for magic!

I was sleeping when it started working. Magic indeed.

I agree with this. I find that its like one new post per forum or so. More clicking to find what I want to read. I think you should merge the MMOG forum and the gaming forum, and leave the sub forums as sub forums. Also, the gaming release forums are turning in to the general gaming forum. I think those should be just in the gaming forum. But thats just me. Otherwise I like the redesign.

For a long time I've wanted a roped off area for one thread each week for each new game worth talking about. It helps me gauge what people want to see and read about. It only takes a glance to see what generates interest and what doesn't. If we clump it into the regular PC Gaming Forum, it won't be anywhere near as easy to follow. I guess the Weekly Release forum could be dumped into PC/Gaming at the end of each month though. That might be more reasonable. Though it'll be neat after a year to see how many threads are in the weekly release forum and to merely glance to see what the most "popular" game of the year was in 2005 or whatever.

Mainly what I was talking about was the MMOG forum joining the Gaming forum, and having all the sub forums of mmog be sub forums of gaming.

One of the reasons we kept it seperate is that the child boards in Gaming, if we did that, would almost go past the fold. Way too many.

Yep. If all the child boards were put into general gaming, it would be terrible for navigation. Way have WAAAY too many WoW and CoH/CoV posts to not be in their own child boards. The only other option is no child boards ever. To me that's ugly.

The setup as it is now works for me. I also use the Show unread posts since last visit (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?action=unread) link so the overall organization doesn't matter that much too me. The only oddity for me if I was to nitpick is that discussion for Battlefield 2 is under the Game Server child/sub forum when it's mostly discussion about the game itself and not the f13 BF2 server.

I never post from home, but hanging out today I logged in. I can now see how child boards light up, I always wondered what folks were talking about. Apparently it's not working on Safari on OSX 10.3.9 (not sure the version of Safari, the latest). At home I'm using WinXP/Firefox and it works fine, pretty cool. At work it works like it always has. No biggie, just FYI.

Irrelevant, but I'd just like to use this as an opportunity to request that...

You get rid of postcounts.  :-)

Who needs them?!

You're just embarrassed because you have nearly 500 more posts than me and I've been here a month longer.  You are a Chatty Cathy! 

Don't listen to him.  Not only should we keep postcounts but they should be in a bigger font.  We should have a star rating, too!

It's all done with CSS so if it isn't working on Safari, Safari isn't parsing CSS files correctly.

It's all going to be about user levels. Each 1000 posts will ding you a level. However, before you are allowed to "level up" you will have to get trained by a more senior level poster. Also, because of the sliding scale we're going to be using, very few people will ever make it to the top echelon of poster levels.

Not sure if you're just trying to be funny or not, but you're right on the money. LOL.

I wasn't kidding, actually.  Look at schild's postcount, too.  He's heading quickly towards 10K, at which time he will be retired to a rest home and we will erect a statue in his memory after he finally passes away.

It'll be fun.

I'll erect a statue when the city becomes a metropolis.

That stupid statue was impossible without cheats.  YOU ARE A CHEATER.

please dont ban me

He's just being silly.  He knows he can't erect a statue to himself, anyway... that would be like posting your own welcome thread.

Oh wait....

Or your own birthday thread.

Oh wait...

No no.

It has to be 100, then 500, then 2500, then 10000, then 500000, etc etc.

Once you hit 2000 posts, posting in a "normal" forum will not reward you with a counted post. You'll have to move on to a PVP forum to see your post count increase.

We're still working on the forum raiding system. Anyone got Tigole's cell number?

Politics?

How many dragon points does one need to accrue before earning a grief title?

Unfortunately I cannot get into too many specifics because of the NDA. Once we are ready to showcase it to the world we will have a FAQ up with some screenshots.

Crap, I am closing in on 700 posts.  At 700 I will reroll and try a new class.  I am not ready for end game content.

The PvP blows. Not only is one faction overpowered -- they're also overpopulated. Hell, if you're on their side, you can just go afk and still win. There was a time when things were in more balance, but the devs nerfed to hell the Beserker and Troll classes -- Now there's no one playing the opposing side.

It sucks that the nerfed the Atheist class; all those players quit after a classic goodbye post.  We should stage an in game protest.

(http://www.spscriptorium.com/Season7/ThreeFeathersDoctor.jpg)

This is my brother, Premise-Running-Thin.

Fixed.

It seems that deciding upon what titles to assign various ranges of post count is like 50% of the job when setting up a phpBB/phpNuke/postNuke board. And it seems to be so fun that it can explain why there are so bloody many of them.

For all its warts, that's a feature slashcode doesn't have, which might be a reason there are fewer sites using that. Not to mention the sheer ugliness of anything written in Perl.

(http://home.earthlink.net/~nellojean/minniepearl/minniepearl.jpg)
Howdee?

I'll raise you:

(http://junior.apk.net/~tremor/images/moo/artcows/d-milkmn.gif)

What was this thread about again ?

Farm pr0n.

Oh god, Karl's down on the farm again, if you know what I mean.

And some of you people wonder why your damn post counts are so high...

++

Oh, btw it must've been some kind of cache problem here at work, linkies lighting up just fine now.

 :hello_kitty:

What the hell is your avatar, Sky?

Is that the same clown?

You made me weep :( and want my mummy.

(http://www.shastahome.com/machu-picchu/images/mummy.jpg)

Yep. I didn't realize House of 1000 Corpses had a sequel!

Do better than that. I have no fear of mummies, silly monkey.

(http://www.scaryornot.com/scaries/img4008739b186b9.jpg)

(http://www.hyperorg.com/blogger/images/michaelwonka.jpg)

I removed the child boards under Game Servers. Some BF2 stuff moved to PC/Console Gaming, other stuff moved to Game Servers. Unreal Tournament 2004 and Half-Life 2 stuff moved to Game Servers.

I'm thinking of disabling the ability to change your avatar and then wiping everyone's avatar. From then on the only avatar you can have is the one the admins or mods assign to you based on what we think fits you best.

This frightens me.

Don't react to him.  If he thinks no one is watching, he might wander off.

I'm thinking it's your avatar that is causing this fascist policy to even be considered.  I blame you. :-P

It looks like something that should be painted onto black velvet, doesn't it?   Like those crazy Elvis paintings you can get in Las Vegas.  Elfis.  hehe.

I can't stop giggling.