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Title: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Hoax on June 10, 2005, 01:16:10 PM From NYtimes, my apologies if I missed another post, but the Den is lonely without Bruce to feed it anyways.
Quote The process began at about 11:30am Monday when several actors dressed as the Master Chief, a green-helmeted warrior from "Halo", walked into the lobbies of several Hollywood studios, scripts in hand... Studio executives were asked to read it while the Master Chiefs waited in the lobbies. At Paramount, said one studio executive, the Master Chief held his helmet in his lap because he was hot. When executives were finished reading, each of the studios was given a proposal with M$'s terms and 24hours to respond. Aside from the $10million upfront fee, M$ was asking for 15% of the studio's first-dollar box office gross receipts. The budget could be no less than $75 million, not including the fees for the actors and the director. If the studio did not make the movie, it would forfeit the $10 million fee. M$ also wanted creative control, with the script and characters unchanged. The studio would have to pay to fly a M$ representative to watch all cuts of the movie, and the studio would forgo merchandising rights." On Tuesday, Universal began looking for a financing partner. Fox was interested but rigid about what creative rights it would cede to M$ Both studios declined to comment on Thursday. That is because the deal is contingent on M$ agreeing to relinquish some creative control. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: WayAbvPar on June 10, 2005, 01:19:10 PM I smell another Starship Troopers. Yikes.
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Evil Elvis on June 10, 2005, 02:00:27 PM I actually liked Starship Troopers :/
I haven't read the book, and I suspect the movie wasn't done entirely in the same vein, and was a letdown to its fans, but I thought it was actually pretty enjoyable. It was corny in just the right places, I thought the special effects worked for the most part, Casper Van Dien was actually well suited for the roll, and it had Dennis Richards and Doogie fucking howser. Good movie when you don't want to turn on your brain. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: WindupAtheist on June 10, 2005, 02:03:10 PM The sheer incompetence of the soldiers in Starship Troopers ruined it for me. Those asshats would die like bitches on a WW1 battlefield, much less a modern one. Now the soldiers in the BOOK were fucking hardcore, jumping around in mech suits and lobbing nukes everywhere.
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Viin on June 10, 2005, 02:16:06 PM .. Doogie fucking howser .. Ah ha! haha! ha! Phew, I'm laughing just thinking about this movie (http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=70000091&trkid=181026). Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: HaemishM on June 10, 2005, 02:22:36 PM .. Doogie fucking howser .. Ah ha! haha! ha! Phew, I'm laughing just thinking about this movie (http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=70000091&trkid=181026). All-time classic movie. As for Halo, I cannot forsee it ever being a good movie and frankly, Microsoft doesn't give a fuck. It's a goddamn branding exercise, an attempt to spread the Halo brand beyond the gaming world, in the hopes of sending some new customers to the X-Box and the 360. The movie could be 90 minutes of circle jerks and Microsoft wouldn't care, so long as it got the Halo name out in the cultural consciousness. Which means, as a movie, it'll be shit on toast. And why the fuck would you need a movie? The fucking game has enough cinematics to deal as much of a story as a Hollywood action fest would. It probably had more story than House of the Dead. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: WayAbvPar on June 10, 2005, 02:23:10 PM Quote The sheer incompetence of the soldiers in Starship Troopers ruined it for me. It was the sheer incompetence of the actors, director, screenwriter, and (apparently) anyone else involved that ruined it for me. It was so cheesy that even the wink wink cheesy parts came off like they were half serious. Ugh. The good news is it is SO bad that it is fun to watch while drinkng with friends just to give it the proper MST3K treatment. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Merusk on June 10, 2005, 03:07:33 PM .. Doogie fucking howser .. Ah ha! haha! ha! Phew, I'm laughing just thinking about this movie (http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=70000091&trkid=181026). Oh, and there's some extra in there for the backseat of your car. I expected to be so dissapointed when I rented that movie and it was one of the best comedys I've seen in a while. And this was some ballsy move on MS's part. What if all the studios had laughed and said 'go build your own stuido, asshat!" Then again, they probably knew that the only people greedier and more paranoid than themselves is a Hollywood Exec. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: sidereal on June 10, 2005, 03:17:30 PM Ah, what a letdown after the topic title.
When I read 'vs' I thought 'in conflict with' not 'crawling into bed with'. One guesses as to how Microsoft's attitude towards intellectual property will evolve when they start raking in money from movies. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Hoax on June 10, 2005, 03:39:58 PM Well I didn't have the time/effort to write up the full article, but I couldn't link it because I was reading one of those old school paper things and I'm 90% sure you need to sign up for an account to access the NYTimes website.
But here is the gist: M$ said to the studios they had 24hrs to: -give them $10million for the right to the license -but they dont get any creative control and MUST use M$'s script and they will pay to fly a M$ guy out to every editing session -they will spend $75million not counting director/actors -they dont get the merchandising rights -they will fly a shitton of M$ guys to the opening, first class -M$ gets 15% of that dollar thing, which apparently is a big deal So basically, Dreamworks, Disney and some others said "fuck you" in less then a day. Only Universal and Fox were willing to talk about it. It was versus, but M$ just basically shit on the movie industry's face is the way I see it if they get their movie made. The writer compared it to if Lucas had forced somebody else to pay to make his movie. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Llava on June 10, 2005, 09:39:07 PM Disney Master Chief, singing a song composed by Elton John. Think about it for a few seconds. Okay. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: schild on June 10, 2005, 09:43:29 PM I think what Microsoft is doing is brilliant.
Hollywood needs to be treated like the bitch it is every once in a while. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: AOFanboi on June 10, 2005, 11:50:19 PM The sheer incompetence of the soldiers in Starship Troopers ruined it for me. That seems intentional: Remember, these were mostly glory-seekers who believed the propaganda about the superiority of the Master Human Race over the insects. Until the assumed "underdogs" threw an asteroid on Buenos Aires, shot energy charges that blew up many of their ships, and basically overran their position forcing them to flee. I love movies that don't end good for the "heroes".Quote Now the soldiers in the BOOK were fucking hardcore, jumping around in mech suits and lobbing nukes everywhere. Verhoeven is anti-fascist and probably got a kick out of turning the book on its head.Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Arnold on June 11, 2005, 10:47:44 AM The sheer incompetence of the soldiers in Starship Troopers ruined it for me. Those asshats would die like bitches on a WW1 battlefield, much less a modern one. Now the soldiers in the BOOK were fucking hardcore, jumping around in mech suits and lobbing nukes everywhere. No shit. Starship Troopers pissed me off. I knew there was no way it would be a socio-political commentary, like the book was, but I did expect to see tons of FX with guys in mech suits jump jetting all over the place and dropping tactical nukes. The stupid Hollywood fuckers couldn't even get that part right. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Evangolis on June 11, 2005, 10:53:09 AM The sheer incompetence of the soldiers in Starship Troopers ruined it for me. That seems intentional: Remember, these were mostly glory-seekers who believed the propaganda about the superiority of the Master Human Race over the insects. Until the assumed "underdogs" threw an asteroid on Buenos Aires, shot energy charges that blew up many of their ships, and basically overran their position forcing them to flee. I love movies that don't end good for the "heroes".Quote Now the soldiers in the BOOK were fucking hardcore, jumping around in mech suits and lobbing nukes everywhere. Verhoeven is anti-fascist and probably got a kick out of turning the book on its head.Of course, he could have taken Joe Haldeman's Vietnam-era spin on Starship Troopers, Forever War (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060510862/qid=1118512242/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-4986765-9992620?v=glance&s=books), itself quite a kick-ass book that expertly did what Verhoeven failed to do, thus making the movie he wanted, and making a good movie at the same time. At least we were spared the sequels a good movie would have caused. Oh, and Microsloth looks close to a deal (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8172311/) on this, just 5mil up front, and 10% of initial gate. Creative differences being hammered out Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: HaemishM on June 12, 2005, 11:42:58 AM Creative differences meaning who gets to be creative with how the money is divided.
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Joe on June 12, 2005, 01:08:26 PM Was it you or some other idiot who superimposed all the S's with $'s?
News flash: that wasn't funny in 1995, either. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Hoax on June 12, 2005, 03:27:03 PM Well I liked it in '95 and I still like it now...
btw Newsflash wasn't even funny in the 80's :roll: Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Joe on June 12, 2005, 05:40:35 PM I see what you did there. Kudos to you, sir!
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Teleku on June 13, 2005, 12:19:21 AM Quote “Microsoft is not in the business of making movies, and that is why we want to partner with the studios. (But) we have an obligation to make sure the 'Halo’ franchise is protected and is something 'Halo’ fans can be proud of,” said de Leon. Now, while I realize that this is Microsoft, and thus money grubbing bastards themselves, I do have to give them props for this stance. Its nice to see a company that actually had something to do with the game demand they get to control of the story and creativity. When left to their own devices, Hollywood grandly fucks up any original source material they are adapting 99% of the time it seems (be it books, comics, or video games). Its just to bad that more developers don't have the clout Microsoft has, and can't get creative control of the movies themselves (thus why all video game movies suck). Granted, it can still easyily blow as a movie, but I'll hand them the moral victory on this. And as Schild said, any time somebody treats Hollywood like shit is a good thing.And yes, PLEASE stop using the damn M$ thing ;). Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: tar on June 13, 2005, 04:30:30 AM At least we were spared the sequels a good movie would have caused. No we weren't (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367093/). I've actually seen this, and yes it's as bad as you think. This is what happens when you let someone else go and rent the DVD for beer & pizza night. Be warned. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Merusk on June 13, 2005, 05:38:25 AM At least we were spared the sequels a good movie would have caused. No we weren't (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367093/). I've actually seen this, and yes it's as bad as you think. This is what happens when you let someone else go and rent the DVD for beer & pizza night. Be warned. I was going to mention this, but then thought it better to let Evangolis live in a world where he didn't know it exsisted. It's not just bad, it's abysmal. I rented it as a freebie *expecting* it to be bad, and I couldn't even get through without mocking it. Quote Its just to bad that more developers don't have the clout Microsoft has, and can't get creative control of the movies themselves (thus why all video game movies suck). They give up as much creative control as they desire. It's their IP and if they wanted to keep the creative control it's as simple as not signing the movie rights over unless they got it. Of course that probably means most video game movies would never have gotten made. This wouldn't be a bad thing, IMO. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Llava on June 13, 2005, 08:16:11 AM They give up as much creative control as they desire. It's their IP and if they wanted to keep the creative control it's as simple as not signing the movie rights over unless they got it. I think his point was that most companies feel like they have to hand over creative rights, and don't consider the option of just not selling the movie rights because that route means no money hats. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: HaemishM on June 13, 2005, 09:00:51 AM See, here's my problem. It's not with Microsoft essentially coming in to the office, dropping trou and dipping their balls directly in the studio's coffee cup. Because that's fucking funny. I love that. Someone needs to treat Hollywood like the slutty little bitch they've been for years.
My problem is that the movie doesn't need to be made. You are talking about a game that has an ASSLOAD of cinematics and developed story. The quality of the story may be debatable, but not the fact that it's there. I mean, how much more story do they think the movie will provide? In the days of no cinematics and 8-bit graphics, yeah, I could see going to a movie to expand on the narrative. But you have what is essentially an INTERACTIVE MOVIE. Creatively, you don't need a big-budget Hollywood movie to expand creatively, because they will not offer your creative pallette anything new. Which leads me back to this being nothing more than a branding exercise to sell more X-Box 360's. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: schild on June 13, 2005, 09:02:36 AM Oh assuredly it's to sell 360s. That said, they Bungie MIGHT have written a good story. Meh, even if they did, the studio will somehow screw it up.
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: WayAbvPar on June 13, 2005, 09:12:12 AM At least we were spared the sequels a good movie would have caused. No we weren't (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367093/). I've actually seen this, and yes it's as bad as you think. This is what happens when you let someone else go and rent the DVD for beer & pizza night. Be warned. Wow, look at that cast list. I wonder which one of them will star in a snuff film as their next gig? Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Merusk on June 13, 2005, 09:16:49 AM Oh assuredly it's to sell 360s. That said, they Bungie MIGHT have written a good story. Meh, even if they did, the studio will somehow screw it up. What, like getting to the climax. MC is in some harrowing position, enemies all around, and... Movie lights come up, "See Halo 2, November 2007"? Or at leastt that's how I understand the story for Halo2 worked, as I don't X-box. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Pococurante on June 13, 2005, 11:11:42 AM Of course, he could have taken Joe Haldeman's Vietnam-era spin on Starship Troopers, Forever War (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060510862/qid=1118512242/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-4986765-9992620?v=glance&s=books), itself quite a kick-ass book (...) That was a damn good book. Need to see if I still have my old copy. Mandala (http://www.jyh.dk/indengl.htm) was my kind of guy. I like ST - lots of bugs, lots of gore. The "Rorke's Drift" scene with thousands of bugs streaming over the hill converging on the fort made me all goose-bumpy. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Llava on June 14, 2005, 01:48:00 PM I haven't finished Halo 2, so I don't know the ending of the story. Matter of fact, I'm not really a Halo fan so I don't know any of the story except for what you get in about the first 30-45 minutes of the game.
But it could be that this movie isn't a film version of the stories in Halo 1 or 2, but a third installement, possibly a segue into Halo 3. (Directed at Haemish RE: the pointlessness of this potential film.) Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Teleku on June 14, 2005, 04:25:37 PM Yeah, I don't really know how a direct translation of game would turn out. But I could actually see a story set in the Halo universe being a pretty good movie. As long as it has lots of combat (both ground and massive fleet battles), good special effects, and decent acting, I could see it actually being pretty good. Probably better than Star Wars at least.
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Azazel on June 15, 2005, 01:09:38 AM This bit makes me hopeful...
Quote In this case, however, Microsoft hired writer Alex Garland, who penned 2003 horror hit “28 Days Later,” to dream up the story. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Ironwood on June 15, 2005, 01:44:39 AM Why ?
For all of a good film it was, it's story was totally, blatantly unoriginal. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: lamaros on June 15, 2005, 02:18:08 AM Starship Troopers is a great film. Showgirls on the other hand...
And Halo's story was very dull and unmovie worthy. Thus the movie can get no worse and it will be good. I can't wait! Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Daydreamer on June 15, 2005, 02:59:20 AM Why ? For all of a good film it was, it's story was totally, blatantly unoriginal. But he took some of the best bits from Zombie horror flicks and wove them into something coherent and polished and entertaining. If anything, given this movie aims to bring Halo the the Silver Screen, I'd rate that skill higher than any sort of original artistic genius in this circumstance. Assuming they let the man work instead of shoveling their ideas through him that is. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Yegolev on June 15, 2005, 08:16:46 AM ...and wove them into something coherent... I have to argue this point. It seemed like at least two separate movies even without counting the shitty ending. Started off good with the infected and survival and so on, then the script took a left turn at the military base. "An analysis of human nature? This was a zombie flick a few minutes ago...?" I didn't care for the movie as a whole. Halo movie will be lots of explosions and gunplay with little story. Like the games. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Mortriden on June 15, 2005, 08:36:38 AM ...and wove them into something coherent... I have to argue this point. It seemed like at least two separate movies even without counting the shitty ending. Started off good with the infected and survival and so on, then the script took a left turn at the military base. "An analysis of human nature? This was a zombie flick a few minutes ago...?" I didn't care for the movie as a whole. Halo movie will be lots of explosions and gunplay with little story. Like the games. To be honest the whole time I was watching that movie I was thinking to myself "Christ, when does this get better?" I would have left, but I was pinned in between a large mouth breather and family of about a 100. To me that movie suffered from 'stupid hero syndrome' badly; and yak-o-matic cam. And just to stay on topic Halo moive = Big special effects and action. Basically an Sci-Fi flick to turn your brain off in. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Daydreamer on June 15, 2005, 11:40:46 PM I guess to me, I saw shades of the human nature stuff all the way up the the point at the end when it became blatant. He did indeed overdo it in the last 20 minutes, but hopefully he'll get better at making it more clear earlier and less blatant at the end with time. I also hear the recut second ending is better in this respect, but I haven't had a chance to see it. Maybe I'll do that this week...
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Yegolev on June 16, 2005, 06:47:54 AM If the second ending is the alternate one I saw on the DVD extras, it sucks too.
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Ironwood on June 16, 2005, 07:33:54 AM If the second ending is the alternate one I saw on the DVD extras, it sucks too. Agreed. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Daydreamer on June 16, 2005, 03:25:22 PM Must you trample on all of my precious dreams?
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Sky on June 22, 2005, 07:31:13 AM Quote At Paramount, said one studio executive, the Master Chief held his helmet in his lap because he was hot. It's hard to find good help.Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Llava on June 22, 2005, 01:34:24 PM If the second ending is the alternate one I saw on the DVD extras, it sucks too. Agreed. There's one alternate ending that really is exactly the same as the released ending, except they change one detail that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. That's the one they actually shot. There's one that's quite different, only shown in storyboards. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Hanzii on June 22, 2005, 03:59:55 PM If the ending is what you guys call the last 110 minutes of the film, then I can see how an alternate unfilmed ending could have saved it. Otherwise? Bah!
It's a zombie flick for beret wearing dicks who wouldn't normally stoop to watching a zombie flick. Only good zombie flick since Romero hung up his hat, was Shaun of the Dead. And movies based on games is a crap idea. It'll suck. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Llava on June 25, 2005, 02:12:52 AM If the ending is what you guys call the last 110 minutes of the film, then I can see how an alternate unfilmed ending could have saved it. Otherwise? Bah! It's a zombie flick for beret wearing dicks who wouldn't normally stoop to watching a zombie flick. Only good zombie flick since Romero hung up his hat, was Shaun of the Dead. And movies based on games is a crap idea. It'll suck. I didn't say it saved the film, I didn't much care for/about the alternate endings. But <shrug> I enjoyed the film as it was, and I enjoy most zombie films. Of course, Shaun of the Dead was better. That's rewatchable. 28 Days, eh. Once, maybe twice. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Shockeye on August 23, 2005, 03:50:45 PM Quote from: Sci Fi Wire Halo Film Deal Sealed (http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?category=0&id=32132) 12:00 AM, 23-AUGUST-05 Fox and Universal have closed their deal to make a movie based on Microsoft's hit video game Halo, with plans to release it in 2007, Variety reported. Universal will oversee the production and is handling domestic distribution, while Fox will take foreign distribution. The studios will split revenues 50-50 out of a shared pot, the trade paper reported. Former Columbia president Peter Schlessel, who served as a Hollywood liaison for Microsoft, is producing. 28 Days Later writer Alex Garland was paid $1 million by Microsoft to write a script that met its approval. He'll now do a rewrite with studio notes, after which Universal will go out to directors. Microsoft is guaranteed extensive consultation on the project, but won't have approval over any elements. Several employees at Bungie, the Microsoft-owned development studio that created Halo, will serve as Microsoft's creative consultants. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Strazos on August 23, 2005, 04:02:52 PM Die die die die die.
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: stray on August 23, 2005, 04:06:41 PM Jesus. Why?
You know the one thing that pisses me off about Halo the most? It isn't the "Multiplayer FPS's -- Been there, done that" thing. And it isn't console hate. It's that so many people try to tell me that it has a good "story". Now I know that it has some kind of plot with religious alien zealots trying to destroy the earth or something (deep), but I'm talking about the "Master Chief" here. What kind of protagonist is this? He doesn't speak and you can't even see his face (what with the super cool spacesuit he always has on) --- Oh wait, he's supposed to be "me" right? Yes? No? :| How did such a stupid fucking character become so "iconic" (that's G4's description or something....Not mine) within a span of 3 years? I don't get it. I used to like Bungie too (when they made Mac games at least). Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Polysorbate80 on August 23, 2005, 05:05:29 PM The sheer incompetence of the soldiers in Starship Troopers ruined it for me. Those asshats would die like bitches on a WW1 battlefield, much less a modern one. Now the soldiers in the BOOK were fucking hardcore, jumping around in mech suits and lobbing nukes everywhere. No shit. Starship Troopers pissed me off. I knew there was no way it would be a socio-political commentary, like the book was, but I did expect to see tons of FX with guys in mech suits jump jetting all over the place and dropping tactical nukes. The stupid Hollywood fuckers couldn't even get that part right. I seem to recall hearing it being a budget problem; they blew so much of it on the bugs they couldn't afford to do the armor. Which makes even attempting the movie pointless, IMO. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: HaemishM on August 24, 2005, 08:58:34 AM Quote from: Sci Fi Wire Halo Film Deal Sealed (http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?category=0&id=32132) Former Columbia president Peter Schlessel, who served as a Hollywood liaison for Microsoft, is producing. 28 Days Later writer Alex Garland was paid $1 million by Microsoft to write a script that met its approval. He'll now do a rewrite with studio notes, after which Universal will go out to directors. Goddamn, that has to be the easiest fucking million anyway has ever made short of the fucking lottery. I'd stab any one of you (except my wife) for that opportunity. And yes, this movie will undoubtedly suck. I really believe with all my heart that it should be given to Uwe Boll in a turn of karmic justice to not only Microsoft, but also Bungie and all fans of the Halo series. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Llava on August 24, 2005, 12:16:49 PM Quote from: Sci Fi Wire Halo Film Deal Sealed (http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?category=0&id=32132) Former Columbia president Peter Schlessel, who served as a Hollywood liaison for Microsoft, is producing. 28 Days Later writer Alex Garland was paid $1 million by Microsoft to write a script that met its approval. He'll now do a rewrite with studio notes, after which Universal will go out to directors. Goddamn, that has to be the easiest fucking million anyway has ever made short of the fucking lottery. I'd stab any one of you (except my wife) for that opportunity. And yes, this movie will undoubtedly suck. I really believe with all my heart that it should be given to Uwe Boll in a turn of karmic justice to not only Microsoft, but also Bungie and all fans of the Halo series. But then you add further to Uwe Boll's already insurmountable level of karmic debt. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: HaemishM on August 24, 2005, 12:52:04 PM Demons don't have karma.
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Strazos on August 24, 2005, 01:09:59 PM But it's harder for him to die if he has money to buy food with.
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Bunk on August 24, 2005, 02:02:59 PM How did such a stupid fucking character become so "iconic" (that's G4's description or something....Not mine) within a span of 3 years? I don't get it. I used to like Bungie too (when they made Mac games at least). Gordon Freeman and his crowbar are borderline iconic. Master Chief is just popular because he has a cool name. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: HaemishM on August 24, 2005, 02:58:44 PM Master Chief is not a cool name. It's an oxymoron.
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: NiX on August 24, 2005, 11:45:48 PM Master Chief is cool because he didn't talk. There's nothing I hate more than a whiney, bitchey and over emotional main character. Just like why Duke and Sam were cool. All they did was blow shit up and say catchy lines. Sure, the painkiller dude was ok, but he was so emo. Master Chief said stuff, but only when he needed to. I'm sure some of you might like to hear "OH GOD! They're going to blow up the world! My life, my love.." I preferred Master Chiefs silent "Fuck you."
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Llava on August 25, 2005, 12:12:09 AM I'll take the Prince of Persia (pre-angst) over Master Chief any day.
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: stray on August 25, 2005, 12:17:42 AM I have no problem with silence. I watch spaghetti westerns and samurai movies 24/7. That's the kind of silence that denotes a "Fuck you."
The Master Chief's silence, on the other hand, denotes "Teenage boys think I'm one of those cool archetypes in western and samurai flicks, but really, I'm just a guy in a space suit with nothing to say." Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Murgos on August 25, 2005, 06:20:13 AM Master Chief is not a cool name. It's an oxymoron. Actually it's a naval rank. As in Master Chief Petty Officer, usually just referred to as Master Chief. I'm guessing they were trying to elude to special forces/SEALs with the name. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: HaemishM on September 02, 2005, 11:13:08 AM They failed.
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Shockeye on September 02, 2005, 11:43:48 AM They failed. Not totally. (http://img1.vunct.net/albums/WalkingCarpet/0724040856_G.jpg) (http://pics.inethouston.net/darktyler/arguing.gif) Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: HaemishM on September 02, 2005, 01:49:01 PM We can rebuild him slower... stupider... infantile.
The Six Million Dollar Retard. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Shockeye on September 17, 2005, 03:16:41 PM Courtesy of IMDB. (http://imdb.com/title/tt0464037/)
Quote from: IMDB Full Cast and Crew for Halo (2007) Directed by Uwe Boll Writing credits Alex Garland (screenplay) Joseph Staten story Produced by Peter Schlessel .... producer Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Llava on September 17, 2005, 03:19:10 PM Wow, they gave up on that pretty quick.
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: NowhereMan on September 18, 2005, 10:30:05 AM Sometimes I wonder if any Hollywood Execs have even watched Uwe Boll's movies. Do they just look at his resume and say, "wow this guy's got lots of experience with video game movies!" and then take another hit of crack?
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Merusk on September 18, 2005, 12:33:11 PM I'm more apt to believe that they convince themselves that the movies bomb because, "Those damn geeks just don't watch movies anyway, we need boader appeal this time. Try including "The Rock" he tests well!" rather than understanding crap is crap.
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: HaemishM on September 20, 2005, 12:43:32 PM No, they look at the fact that Boll's movies, despite being pure, unadulterated shit, are profitable, especially on the DVD end. Then they think of George Lucas, and the insipid fanboism that all video game type geeks appear to exhibit, and see how even shitty movies can sell like hotcakes in two and three different special editions to ignorant video game morons. And they think, "We can sell 3 or 4 different special edition type DVD's and make huge bank."
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: AOFanboi on September 21, 2005, 10:08:02 AM Not the director after all (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=60961).
*whew* Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Shockeye on October 04, 2005, 12:56:20 PM Quote from: BetaNews Peter Jackson to Produce 'Halo' Movie (http://www.betanews.com/article/Peter_Jackson_to_Produce_Halo_Movie/1128451543) By Nate Mook, BetaNews October 4, 2005, 3:00 PM Microsoft has tapped the team behind the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy to help bring its popular "Halo" Xbox game to the big screen. LOTR Peter Jackson will join his wife Fran Walsh as executive producers of the film, which will utilize Jackson's production facilities in New Zealand. Universal Studios, Fox and Microsoft's Bungie game subsidiary that created Halo will aid Jackson in the process. The Halo screenplay -- about futuristic soldier "Master Chief" battling aliens -- was written by novelist Alex Garland. A director is expected to be named in the coming weeks, although the cast has yet to be announced. Maybe Master Chief will get some hot Hobbit love. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Samprimary on October 04, 2005, 01:23:45 PM From Bungie.net (http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?story=biggorilla&p=4955829)
Quote No sense beating around the bush. I would only say that if you’re not already sitting down, you absolutely should. A few weeks ago we were lucky enough to partner with two tremendous Producers from Universal, Mary Parent and Scott Stuber. In the short time they’ve been on board, Mary and Scott have joined with Peter Schlessel to accomplish unimaginably wonderful things. Example? They’ve secured an Executive Producer to help guarantee the creative integrity and technical excellence of the Halo film. And that Executive Producer’s name is Peter Jackson. I’ll give you a second to process. If you’re having a strong, emotional reaction, don’t panic. When I heard the news it took me the better part of a day just to stop smiling. Yes. The Peter Jackson, Executive Producing the Halo film. Needless to say I and the rest of Bungie are positively incontinent (Marty especially). But what really knocks us on our asses is we’re also getting the combined talent of the mighty men and women of WETA in the bargain. From fabricating Covenant weapons to building life-sized Forerunner structures to accomplishing shot after shot of complex live-action/CG integration – simply put, there’s no group of people we’d rather have realize the Halo universe on screen. Indeed, I don’t think there’s another group that even could. Mary and Scott know Peter Jackson and his partner Fran Walsh because of their work on King Kong (which Universal is distributing), so I asked them for their personal take on this development: "First, let me just say how honored and excited Scott and I are to be involved in this project. As huge fans of the game ourselves we know how high the bar is. We've made it our mission to try and involve the absolute very best people one can imagine in every capacity. Having developed a great relationship with Peter and Fran through the extraordinary Kong experience, and seeing first hand just how unique a filmmaking environment they have crafted, we approached them about the possibility of coming aboard to Exec Produce. Not surprisingly, they were already avid fans of the game, and given our existing shorthand, they said yes! To be able to continue our relationship with them – on HALO of all projects – is really a dream come true for us in the biggest possible way.” I daresay me too. And did I mention that Mary and Scott are awesome? Not surprisingly I’ve begun apartment hunting in Wellington – though Chris Butcher says I can bunk with his grandmother in Christchurch so long I don’t mind a bit of a commute I’m only half joking. Parsons and I are hopping on a plane to New Zealand next week to meet Mr. Jackson and his team, and I imagine it won’t be the last time we make the trip. If I didn’t make this clear in my previous update, Bungie’s in this for the long haul – 100% dedicated to making the Halo movie the best it can be. Now we have help. Ten thousand pound gorilla help. And that’s just about the best kind there is. So, it's not doomed. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Murgos on October 04, 2005, 01:33:07 PM Awesome, we can never have enough movies about kicking alien ass.
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Samprimary on October 04, 2005, 01:40:22 PM Awesome, we can never have enough movies about kicking alien ass. Well, what if we got a good one? You know, to formally remove Starship Troopers from memory. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: HaemishM on October 04, 2005, 02:08:50 PM About the only almost exciting bit about that is that Halo will have WETA doing effects. Other than that, what does an executive producer do besides collect a check?
Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Samprimary on October 04, 2005, 02:39:10 PM About the only almost exciting bit about that is that Halo will have WETA doing effects. Other than that, what does an executive producer do besides collect a check? Oversees direction and production; typically the one called in to fixed borked pre=pro or to can the director for doing a shitty job. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Abagadro on October 27, 2005, 12:21:51 AM Update on Uwe Boll:
Because it is such an epic, he will release Dungeon Siege in two parts in Nov. & Dec. 2006 (http://comingsoon.net/news.php?id=11731). Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Llava on October 27, 2005, 01:04:13 AM God. I love that man.
The world needs laughter. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: HaemishM on October 27, 2005, 12:43:08 PM Update on Uwe Boll: Because it is such an epic, he will release Dungeon Siege in two parts in Nov. & Dec. 2006 (http://comingsoon.net/news.php?id=11731). Somewhere, I imagine the overinflated ego of Quentin Tarantino being covered by a gigantic shadow as the camera pans back to show him being dwarfed by the hyperinflated ego that is teh Boll. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: Daeven on October 27, 2005, 08:14:06 PM Update on Uwe Boll: I had not realized that mankind had tortured and mutilated enough puppies and kittens to deserve the Wrath of God this horrific.Because it is such an epic, he will release Dungeon Siege in two parts in Nov. & Dec. 2006 (http://comingsoon.net/news.php?id=11731). Obviously, I was mistaken. Title: Re: M$, Hollywood and Hobbits Post by: HaemishM on October 28, 2005, 07:39:01 AM Update on Uwe Boll: I had not realized that mankind had tortured and mutilated enough puppies and kittens to deserve the Wrath of God this horrific.Because it is such an epic, he will release Dungeon Siege in two parts in Nov. & Dec. 2006 (http://comingsoon.net/news.php?id=11731). Obviously, I was mistaken. Katrina was just the warmup. |