Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: stray on May 06, 2004, 06:12:10 PM This guy did:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=353338&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1 "152 hours. 8.4 million total xp" Fuck(!), even if I didn't play my alts, I'd only be hitting 20 by now. Hope this doesn't bring an Assault/Dev nerf.. Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: Kyper on May 06, 2004, 07:31:29 PM Do you smell that?
Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: schild on May 06, 2004, 07:33:45 PM Smells like Exploitation.
Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: Daydreamer on May 06, 2004, 07:42:17 PM 152/~11 days = ~13.8 hours a day
A jobless loser/catass, but it appears he didn't share the account. Wonder how long it will take people after they nerf SS/Devices... Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: schild on May 06, 2004, 07:44:53 PM Don't think they will. He did nothing spectacular it seems.
Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: Shockeye on May 07, 2004, 01:55:17 AM He only abused the 3x defense bonus of superspeed that was supposed to be fixed.
But on the plus side he feels really bad about it. Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: Soukyan on May 07, 2004, 05:24:40 AM The guy has spent 14 hours a day since release doing nothing but playing his character. No granted, he exploited that defense bonus. Okay, so that's bad, BUT a true exploiter would have had level 40 in like 10 hours. ;)
Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: Signe on May 07, 2004, 08:24:25 AM Only 23 more levels to go! Woo hoo!
Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: Mr_PeaCH on May 07, 2004, 08:40:04 AM Overheard in Broadcast last night a guy bragging and complaining (bragplaining?) how the game was 'broken' and he was offering to PL low level people with a certain exploit. To my delight, and surprise, the channel filled up with people saying how stupid that would be to get PL'd in this game because just playing it straight-up is <brace for it> FUN!
Then the guy switched tactics and claimed we all were getting upset and we should quit the game if we couldn't handle people being PL'd... to which the general consensus remained "we're not upset, we just think you're stupid". Also evident was a good deal of MMO-n00bness as people began to ask "what PL means?"... somebody in another thread pointed out how the game seems to have crossed over and brought new, no-prior-mmo-experience players into the genre. Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: Alluvian on May 07, 2004, 09:16:00 AM Why would you even WANT to be level 40 right now? I know I don't. I am level 13 and am annoyed that I am leveling faster than I can do all my missions. A bunch went away at level 12 to be replaced with boomtown stuff. Annoyed me, I wanted to do those.
Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: WayAbvPar on May 07, 2004, 09:53:45 AM That guy's place must smell like a zoo.
On second thought, his mother probably cleans up for him while he toils away in the basement. Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: HaemishM on May 07, 2004, 09:54:56 AM Wow, level 40 less than 2 weeks after release. Way to miss the fucking point of the game, you asstardic munchkin-fucking pixel monkey.
Now what? Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: Furiously on May 07, 2004, 10:39:24 AM Now the griefing begins!
Either that or he posts a diatribe about how horridly his class is gimped. I'm never been the type to like the lowby levels - but in COH I'm in no hurry to get to the top. (Also cause I have problems figuring out what to play and keep rerolling). Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: Mesozoic on May 07, 2004, 11:10:43 AM Look at the bright side: The catasses will all cap out in a month, and then they'll leave.
"I will not catass. 12-hour play sessions are the mind killer. I will let the the stupid wash over me, and when it has gone, only I will remain." Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: geldonyetich on May 07, 2004, 11:30:51 AM Total path of least resistance. Threw out caltrops and was somehow able to actually root his targets with it instead of just slow them (something normally possible only against already slow targets). Then he applied some Burn AoE DoT (applied the same way as caltrops) with Ignite (lvl 18 Assault Blaster ability) to his targets to hasten their being put down.
He probably did this to multiple groups of mobs at a time. Once rooted, he probably hid behind walls to prevent them from fighting back. Avoided all mobs with good ranged attacks or mind control. Making maximum use of the Super Speed defence buff doesn't help his case any(, although personally I haven't found the Super Speed defence buff to be all that useful since it gimps your own accuracy when active, but then I have low recycle claw attacks). Still, several people here are right that he's missing out on the game by playing it like a race. He's technically did most of his hunting in just four hazard zones. We can probably look to nerfs probably coming in the immediate future to the effectiveness of caltrops at rooting, or possibily an increase in ranged mob attacks (which would *really* screw blasters). Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: eldaec on May 07, 2004, 02:55:55 PM I'm fully expecting any number of effect stacking caps to be applyed before long.
For instance most slow effects don't require an accuracy check, but stack 3 of almost any of them and you have unbreakable root. Similar effects can be had with def bonuses. Whether the nerf is needed is another thing, I remain unconvinced either way - but I'm kind of expecting it. Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: Alluvian on May 07, 2004, 03:50:10 PM nah, because you have to keep THREE effects up at all times as opposed to 1. Nothing imbalancing about that at all.
Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: Daeven on May 07, 2004, 05:36:00 PM Quote from: schild Smells like Exploitation. Teen Spirit? Rampant Stupidity? France? feh. Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: eldaec on May 08, 2004, 02:13:39 AM Quote from: Alluvian nah, because you have to keep THREE effects up at all times as opposed to 1. Nothing imbalancing about that at all. Historically MMOG devs have believed that unbreakable root is more than three times more useful than a 33% slow. And tbh - they're right. Worth noting that if one person runs three such powers themselves, end use would only barely outpace end regeneration. Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: Murgos on May 08, 2004, 07:46:06 AM The caltrop rooting doesn't work without the superspeed. Trust me I know. To get close enough to a large group of baddies, like in a hot zone, and throw out the caltrops pretty much means you get plastered, and with a blaster it doesn't take many hits to kill you.
He has to be abusing the superspeed +def to run up and throw the caltrops and get back of attack range without ending up a chalk outline. As far as the perma-root thing, caltrops does that to pretty much any blue con. Some Mobs more affected than others but I don't think thats over-powered at all. All your're really doing is forcing the mobs to use thier ranged attacks, the same as with hover or any of the boundary knockback powers or roots. Rooted is not incapacitated. Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: Murgos on May 08, 2004, 07:48:39 AM Quote from: eldaec Quote from: Alluvian nah, because you have to keep THREE effects up at all times as opposed to 1. Nothing imbalancing about that at all. Historically MMOG devs have believed that unbreakable root is more than three times more useful than a 33% slow. And tbh - they're right. Worth noting that if one person runs three such powers themselves, end use would only barely outpace end regeneration. Wtf are you talking about? ALL the roots in CoH are unbreakable and ALL can be made to be 100% accurate. Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: Sky on May 08, 2004, 07:51:08 AM Actually, that's one of the reasons I like my energy blaster, even though he doesn't get any root powers. When a mob is recovering from knockback, he can't do anything but stand back up for a couple seconds, whereas rooted mobs can still function, just without movement.
Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: AOFanboi on May 08, 2004, 08:16:12 AM Quote from: Sky Actually, that's one of the reasons I like my energy blaster, even though he doesn't get any root powers. When a mob is recovering from knockback, he can't do anything but stand back up for a couple seconds, whereas rooted mobs can still function, just without movement. I think you're mixing Hold powers (mob becomes inactive, e.g. as a result of Controller primary powers) and Immobilization powers (which only affects movement). Two different "roots".Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: Murgos on May 08, 2004, 08:19:50 AM Quote from: AOFanboi Quote from: Sky Actually, that's one of the reasons I like my energy blaster, even though he doesn't get any root powers. When a mob is recovering from knockback, he can't do anything but stand back up for a couple seconds, whereas rooted mobs can still function, just without movement. I think you're mixing Hold powers (mob becomes inactive, e.g. as a result of Controller primary powers) and Immobilization powers (which only affects movement). Two different "roots".No, I think he said it correctly, no blaster gets a 'Hold' but all of them except energy (his) gets a root. He said he foudn the knockdown of energy made up for the lack of a root. Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: Aslan on May 10, 2004, 07:46:20 AM As an electricity/electricity blaster, I get an immobilization root as one of my first powers, I can stop the mob's movement but he can still shoot, ect. Recently, I got a Tesla Cage, which is a hold. The mob is frozen and cannot act or move. So as a blaster, I do get both.
Title: Hit Lvl 40 yet? Post by: geldonyetich on May 10, 2004, 11:17:59 AM To immobilization eligability: Electricity yes, Energy no. Of course, energy has foe knockback built in to every attack, so it balances out to an extent. Energy does get some disorient hits as well, which is about as good as a root (foe shambles around, unable to attack).
Take a look at the kind of mob control those Defenders with Psychic Blast get. Neigh all of the attacks slow the foe's attack speed. Subdue immobilizes. Telekinetic Blast knockbacks. Will Domination sleeps. Psychic Tornado AOE knockbacks. Scramble Thhoughts disorients. Psychic Wail AOE disorients. On the downside, most of these effects only have a chance to go off with the Psychic Blast Defender, where the effect is much more likely to go off in a Controller (100%) or Blaster (75% - 90%). |