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Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: Venkman on May 04, 2004, 12:24:51 PM http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/040504/45283_1.html
Quote ATI has used the most advanced technologies available to design and manufacture its new RADEON X800 graphics chips. Using the successful low k .13 micron semiconductor process from Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., Ltd., ATI created a scalable, highly parallel and powerful visual processor that is twice as fast as today's performance leader, the RADEON(TM) 9800 XT. The advanced fabrication process and leading-edge GDDR3 memory have also enabled ATI and its board partners to deliver high-performance, user-friendly graphics card solutions which will work in customer's existing PCs without requiring radical and costly power supply or cooling upgrades. I have no idea how good it actually is. Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: cevik on May 04, 2004, 12:28:23 PM A preview:
http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?articleid=517&cid=2 Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: Fabricated on May 04, 2004, 05:28:51 PM Short summary:
The new Radeon is a bit slower than the new GeForce 6800+ in OpenGL, but faster across the board with AA and Ansi on, and decidedly faster with DirectX games (check the Far Cry scores out). It also doesn't have a disgustingly huge and noisy heatsink/fan combo, nor does it take 100+W of power and 2 dedicated molex connectors. Thank you, ATi. Now just work on those drivers and Nvidia will be the next 3dfx. Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: schild on May 04, 2004, 05:29:50 PM 3DFx makes some great professional chips. I still drool over some of them.
Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: Glamdring on May 05, 2004, 06:55:23 AM HardOCP comparison between the two new X800s, 9800XT, and the 6800 :
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NjEx Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: Alluvian on May 05, 2004, 07:26:01 AM I find it pretty shitty that in the conclusions the talk about some barely noticable differences in farcry rendering (invalid anyway since they are comparing images at two different resolutions) and completely fucking ignore that the new ati cards failed to show ANY shadows at all in whole scenes of splinter cell. The screenshots there looked like shit on the ATIs compared to what they should have looked like. Went from a dark shadowy forest to an appearance of high noon, in a game where shadows are critical.
Overall the ATI cards still seem like they are doing a better job with their hardware, but their driver engineers still are having issues (I would suspect the splinter cell issues are bad drivers). I just don't trust ATI yet, but Nvidia is not making hardware that really wows me. Damnit why won't one of them buy the other out and have them merge all their strengths? Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: Glamdring on May 05, 2004, 11:57:12 AM Quote from: Alluvian I just don't trust ATI yet, but Nvidia is not making hardware that really wows me. Damnit why won't one of them buy the other out and have them merge all their strengths? Nvidia has just been pissing me off with their hardware designs in general, from jet engine sounding fans to the massive power hog that is the 6800. Do they really think we want this crap? I thought technological advancement was supposed to help parts get smaller/quiter, but it seems that Nvidia is hell bent on going off in some other direction. Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: HaemishM on May 05, 2004, 12:37:16 PM I think Nvidia has gotten too focused on maintaining benchmark speed while releasing at the same time or earlier than ATI. Competition is great, until the only goal in your design is to match the competition despite any serious shortcuts you have to take to achieve that. If ATI can release the X800 XT without needing a ginormous fan strapped to the card that requires 2 power connectors, why can't Nvidia? It just seems like those connections and fans are going to cost something awful.
Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: Sky on May 05, 2004, 03:23:22 PM *cough 3dfx cough*
*hack voodoo6 hack* Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: Alluvian on May 06, 2004, 06:57:39 AM I have not looked at the details on the new cards, but in some ways the FX series was more powerful than the 9800 series, but not in ways important to video gaming. FX ran at a full 32 bits which turned out to not be necessary and crippled them vs the 16 bits of the 9800 (or 24 or whatever it was). You could not see the 32 bits, but you could sure see the extra fps of the 9800.
It would not surprise me if the geforce6 falls in this same trap by doing more work to get the same result. It seems that they are trying to just use brute force to slam out fps with a hammer. Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: Sairon on May 06, 2004, 03:42:29 PM I'm runing out of hope for Nvidia, shity performance/buck. I think it's pretty damn obvious which card is THE card to get, just as it was with the last generation cards. Of course there's still some Nvidia fanbois talking about how great and powerful their cards are. The expensive Nvidia card supported 3.0 shaders, but who fucking cares, when we are going to see them used, you will have to turn them off anyway because of crapy performance.
Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: Alluvian on May 07, 2004, 08:51:15 AM Yeah, I am not really a fanboi, but I like 3d stereoscopic gaming. And ATI still don't have that.
Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: Shrike91 on May 07, 2004, 05:05:58 PM Quote Damnit why won't one of them buy the other out and have them merge all their strengths? Ack! We don't need fewer serious, well funded companies producing GPU's. We need more. Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: Glamdring on May 11, 2004, 05:35:04 AM Well, www.nv40.com is reporting that Nvidia might not be stupid after all...
Quote Graphics company ready to embrace friendlier, less-expensive 350W power supply recommendation for upcoming GeForce 6800 Ultra GPU. Quote GameSpot: What are the reasons behind the 480W power supply recommendation for the GeForce 6800 Ultra? Ujesh Desai: We have to spec our products for the absolute worst case, not the best. Marginal power supplies and poorly ventilated cases must be taken in to account. We are traditionally over-cautious about our minimum specifications, and this is no exception. Now that we have had more time with the GPU we are getting a better feel for its capabilities, tolerances and resource requirements. The reason we initially spec'ed out 480W was because the GeForce 6800 Ultra was targeted at the Enthusiast. These folks tend to push their systems to the max. That means overclocking the GPU, using the fastest CPU on the market, and also typically using multiple peripherals. Nice spin. Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: Sky on May 11, 2004, 06:46:40 AM "Our cooling system for the FX is not a leafblower...it's an auditory desensitization device specifically designed for mmog players to drown out their bleating children and significant others."
Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: HaemishM on May 11, 2004, 07:39:56 AM :: WHOOOSH! ::
What was that sound? [shouts] DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, THAT'S JUST MY GRAPHICS CARD STARTING UP! [/shouts] Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: daveNYC on May 11, 2004, 08:48:40 AM Quote ...and also typically using multiple peripherals. What, like a microwave? Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: Alluvian on May 11, 2004, 11:11:28 AM Teh h4rdc0r3 are not exactly going to get UP and go to the KITCHEN to nuke that 3 day old burrito. So yeah, a microwave you smartass :P
Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: Glamdring on May 11, 2004, 11:30:25 AM Don't forget the leet car cigarette lighter mod!
Title: That didn't take long... ATI announces new chip Post by: Shmtur on May 11, 2004, 04:36:07 PM Quote from: daveNYC Quote ...and also typically using multiple peripherals. What, like a microwave? Just so you know, that was fucking hilarious. |