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Right-Click, Save As and THEN click below. (http://www.f13.net/schild/ProjectOffset.wmv) The most beautiful women in the world aren't this beautiful.

Taken from Here (http://projectoffset.com/technology.html).

What you've just watched was an actual video of the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuutttttttttttuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeee.

Fanboi is me.

Looks very nice -- I hope they find somebody to back them. It'll be interesting to compare their finished game graphics-wise to the various games that are in the works right now using the Unreal Engine 3, which supports many of the same features as the Offset Engine plus a whole lot more.

Hot.

Edit: We could donate some dollars to them and put www.f13.net on their page.

Maybe it was just because I was forced to upgrade to media player 10 when I did my windows update but that video was terribly stuttered when I played it.  I take it that didn't happen for anyone else?  I mean whole sections just froze while the audio was going fine.

I just tried it again and noticed that media player 10 pegs my cpu when playing the video, that never happened with 9.  I also noticed the links on their site make a point of saying wmv9 format.  I wonder if I can downgrade.

Winamp is your friend.

Also, I see big upgrades in my future.

Also also, I saw no T&A elf chicks in chain-mail bikinis. I must say it's a sad indicator for the industry when a straight, and otherwise normal 22 year old male is surprised and relieved a game isn't shoving some chicks chest in his face. Of course... I am assuming they just forgot and will fit some in before the game goes gold.

Rendered in beautiful cinematic quality.  The porn could be strong.

Holy... fucking... crap. That was gorgeous. I'm interested to know what kind of hardware was running that. Color me interested.

When I tried to install WinAmp 5 I got a Windows error refusing to allow some of the video components to be installed.  The result was that it does the same thing in winamp.

I'm not one of those raving anti-Microsoft people but when they slip in media player 10 during a security update, don't allow me to uninstall it since "it is such a vital piece of the OS" bullshit, and then don't allow a different program to be used correctly I get a little upset.

Shiny leads to the Dark Side.

Read the features they are talking about in the "Game Design" section of the website. IF they pull half of that shit off, it should be some kind of shiney Robot Jesus.

Call me after the contractions are five minutes apart.

Dear God, why did you go there?

I'm tempted to make this thread very NSFW.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/lonestar627/Misc/Camila.jpg)
She's angry with you, Schild.

Angrier than this guy even.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/lonestar627/Misc/offset.jpg)

I'll play just for the graphics alone.  Well, I think I will.

Man, I'd love to do that kind of work all day.  For now, I have to settle for art and character generation as a hobby.  TGIF.

To get back on track.



Ya, some very good stuff in there.  Persistant FPS ftw.  Reminds me vaguely of the CS serverside mod that put some WC3 elements in there.  Every map you leveled up and got cool abilities.

The fact that you fight 4-5 battles (maps) per war, and the winning side on each map determines the next map in rotation is a really simple idea that I'm surprised hasn't been implemented yet.  It will also be interesting to see how they implement FPS melee combat.

Edit: Then again, for me, about 80% of the fun of a game is watching it being developed.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it were done on a PS3 or 360 dev box. Cuz you ain't buying a computer off the shelf that can do that.

I dunno, the Unreal 3 engine demos looked almost as nice as that, and they were done what, a year ago?  An SLI 7800 system might very well pull off graphics that nice.

They do say on the site it's being developed for next-gen PC's, which I'm not exactly sure what the standard is there but I think it's 64-bit. They say they also want to put it on PS3 and X-Box 360.

I am not impressed.  Sure its good, but its just the march of technology.  Nothing particually clever.  The mission stuff seem pretty good, but its just another step down the path with Halo, CS and GW.

That video stuttered like mad, video-wise. Audio was ok. Looking at the stats said it dropped 3000 frames, even though I had downloaded it. WMP on OSX. Oh well.

Looked beautiful from my end. *shrug*

Oh, the screenies look drool-worthy. I love teh shiney, just adding the texture packs to Thief 3 has made it a better game imo.

I friggin' love the shadows and bloom effect, though (before it became the effect dujour). Last night I was hiding behind the door and my spine actually friggin' tingled when I saw a guard coming just by his shadow looming through the doorway. Playing a thief observing by sound and shadow is how the game should be.

So my graphics-whoriness has some merit ;)

I had the same problem on WMP on OSX. Moved the file to a PC and used WMP 10 and it played smooth as butter.

Meh, it's nice tech, I suppose.  I'm kind of disappointed that it looks like it's shaping up to be Generic Fantasy Game number two million and one, though.  Yeah, okay, so you've got a kickass engine and all that, now please hire someone who can do something with it.

Gameplay features sound nice, but the difference between this game and something like, say, Savage, is going to be in the execution, so I dunno.  Could really, really rock, or could turn out to be the next Star Wars Battlefront. 

I was having the stuttering problem with the video, too (on several players), but they have a lower res version on their site that works fine for me.  Might want to give that a shot.

Oddly enough those three guys were three of the key people that made Savage.

Well... I was impressed.  I've been longing for a fantasy-based FPS (even though I pretty much suck at fps) and this seemed like a damn fine start in that direction. 

You guys are some jaded motherfuckers.

Wow, those are some incredible graphics.  It's been awhile since I've been into FPS, but if they delivered on the goods I'd definitely pick this one up.

But are they hotter than Adriana?

I think not.  :wink:

By the time this game is released, most games will start looking like it....Then we'll all just  :roll: and want the next best thing after that.

That's tough, because *nothing* is hotter than Adriana.   ;)

Eventually it'll converge to the point where if it were any more realistic, your eyes wouldn't be able to tell the difference anyway.  I look forward very eagerly to that day for more reasons than I care to enumerate here.

Evolution baby!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/lonestar627/Misc/evolution.jpg)

I don't know what's worse: Stalking hot Brazillian and Argentinian girls in real life, or doing very, very bad things to them in a virtual space.

Okay then...That joke didn't go over too well.

Lower rez gave me shitfits, too. Yay for bad video codecs, or something.  Maybe if I try it on the main PC instead of my laptop, but what I saw looked good.

Holodecks of the future, for the win.

I'm not really thinking holodeck - that would take a lot more than graphics and probably won't happen in our lifetime.  What I'm thinking is more along the lines of:

1) Anyone with a PC will be able to create cinema-quality films on a very modest budget.  This will undoubtedly lead to some very badass sci-fi/fantasy indy films, which are currently a bit constrained by their special effects budgets.

2) Once graphics hit their theoretical limit, all the R&D time will go towards things like AI and more fun gameplay.

Heh, here I was thinking that you just wanted more realistic pr0n.

Anyways, that's great and all, but if 3D tries to take over filmmaking too much (and I'm speaking mainly of acting) then I'm going to become the next Ted Kaczynski (for thespians). Digital artists make lousy actors (and not necessarily good photographers either). No matter how good they can portray the surface, they'll never really be able to convey all the subtleties and range of emotions that flesh and blood is capable of (let alone the subtleties and range of an entire cast of characters). It's an art form founded in psychology. Not visuals......At least good acting is.

And if you're not just talking about 3D, but post production for video and film, then I'm cool with that. HD/Pro Tools/and a PC or Mac are making many things possible already (with things like green screening being out of reach for budget minded -- but even having that opportunity will become cheaper as it becomes more common). If someone isn't already trying that (or something) now, then they shouldn't even bother trying it later on their personal Pixar machines (to spare all of us the pain). By that thinking, they're already telling me that they've underestimated what good filmmaking is about in the first place.

Shit, I've been saying that since I started pc gaming. I really wish AI weren't such a red-headed stepchild of programming. We don't need badass reaperbot AI that can smoke players instantly, we need Homerbot AI - something that can realistically make human mistakes and be fooled in a convincing manner, something with a real memory space that knows how to independantly interact with other npcs. I spend a lot of time studying how AI interacts with each other when I'm in a game that has some interesting programming (Thief series, NOLF 2, there are a few with decent (or at least interesting/funny) rudimentary AI).
Really? Why is something that was high tech on 70's local news stations still out of reach? That's nuts.

I'm just talking about the cost of renting studio spaces, especially since the big ones are mainly in cities where everything is expensive. The screens don't cost anything.

Ai is Hard, graphics are 'simple.'  Expect that after this 'theoretical limit' is reached then the focus will shift to better framerates with lower processor/ power requirements, and showing more shit onscreen (pushing the clip plane) rather than  AI.  20 years from now you'll still be aching for an AI better than your 3 year-old behind the screen.

But I'm just pessimistic like that.

1920x1080p version. (http://download.nvidia.com/downloads/nZone/videos/project_offset_august2005_1920x1080p.wmv)

Not being able to run this video at full speed is a sign that I need a new computer. And it's only 98MB or so. Sigh.

<nod>  Yeah, that's my guess, too.  I mean, the original Quake engine could render things "photo realistically..." assuming you limit it to certain things, from a certain distance at a certain angle, and you only interact with them in certain ways, and so on.  The old Unreal engine can render more types of things, from different distances and more angles and you can interact with them in more ways... and so on.  This game, Project Offset, looks very nice, but I don't care how pie-in-the-sky, next gen their stuff is, there is a lot of stuff it won't be able to do.  There is some angle where you'll be able to tell that this leaf is a 2d sprite.  There is some distance where the textures will appear blurry when you zoom in on them.  It's all just going to be a bit harder to spot than before, but it'll be there.  The march of progress might someday give us a game where everything is modelled down to the molecular level, and then some kid will look at it and say "Crap, that's unrealistic, where are the tau muons?"

Kail, you're making the assumption that the game interface includes an electron microscope.   :wink:  Real human eyes can't "zoom in" to an infinite degree on a texture.  There's no reason to think that most games would need to provide that facility in order to provide a level of detail equalling our perceptions of the real world.

I thought his point was that it's all illusion anyway.

Following from that, art direction is far more important than the ability to render zillions of true color pixels in real time.

Let's hope whatever they produce doesn't go the way of EQ2 with teh shinny and teh voicovers and the general lack of goodness.  Otherwise, very impressive.

Try to argue that Macs are faster than PCs now:P

Decoding of HDTV res AVC codec requires some serious processing power on your rig.

Yeah, because I'm always doing that.

And if I were to brag about the speed of macs, I'd brag about the g4 emac I use at work.

Because I'm trying to be a kindler, gentler Sky this week, I won't call you a douche.

Rise from your grave!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw_QBGUYmy0&eurl= (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw_QBGUYmy0&eurl=)

Not sure if this footage is new to anyone but it impressed the hell out of me.

Pretty. Wonder if it'll be any good, though. Some great tech.

Some of that footage is old (the stuff at the end), but the dragon in the cave thing was new.  And SEXY.  As Straz said earlier in this thread, a fanboi is me.

I've been following this over the last year, that video on YouTube is months old... but still pretty.

I keep checking by their site, and not really seeing much new lately.  The latest news on the site is from the end of October, for example, saying they have a publisher, but they're keeping quiet on the project for awhile.

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Alkiera

Yeah, pretty sure that game is going to require I build a new rig.

I hope I can at least use the same Lian-Li case I have been using for 4+ years.

new news .

http://www.projectoffset.com/news.php

intel is participating in the project. One way or the other it does sound like its a good thing.

I'm with a few others here: call when there's a publisher. All of this is nice, but it was nice two years ago too.

"participating" was an understatement. Says "Intel has acquired Offset Software.". Guess Intel needed something to pump Havok on Quad Cores with.

So what was this thread about initially, anyway?

Looks like the new oblivion really. It'll be changed to focus on consoles and thereby be ruined like most good pieces of tech.

I think its a win win situation here where buyer and seller enhance each others technology.
So "participating" might be the case .. At least i hope :)

Apparently the future of gaming is on its way. I look forward to being notified when it arrives.

I dunno about you guys, but I'm off to watch I AM LEGEND.

Look at the date of the original post. When trolling be sure you're not nearly 3 years late and said company ALREADY failed to deliver.

So any joke is trolling now is it? Or just ones that reference you in some way? Lighten up partner, and read the few posts before mine.

All I know is I'm getting the lifetime sub.

That was part of the joke.

To be fair, I spent 3 or 4 minutes trying to get the link the original post to work before checking the posting dates.

Heh, I remember distinctly hearing the name years ago but didn't know it had floundered uselessly already. I figured it had become a new Duke Nukem Forever, locked in vaporware land.