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Title: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Trippy on August 01, 2005, 06:19:52 PM
From GameSpot: Blizzard shutters northern outpost (http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/08/01/news_6130138.html)

Quote from: GameSpot
Blizzard shutters northern outpost
Diablo studio closed; remaining staff relocated to Southern Calif HQ, put on "unannounced project"--likely Diablo 3.

The team behind the enormously popular Diablo franchise--most recently known as Blizzard North, the Bay Area outpost of Irvine, Calif-based Blizzard Entertainment--has been officially shuttered. Arguably, the office was moribund for months, those with ties to the Diablo franchise having departed months or even years ago to form studios of their own.

In a statement today, Blizzard president and founder Mike Morhaime said the relocation will "improve our efficiency as a company" and "represents an opportunity for all of our teams to have regular, direct input on each other's projects."

Those from Blizzard North who were offered relocation packages "will continue work on an unannounced project," which most believe is the third installment in the hugely popular Diablo series.

The studio that came to be known as Blizzard North was founded in 1993 by David Brevik and brothers Erich and Max Schaefer. The team--known then as Condor--pitched and sold Diablo to Blizzard. In 1996, the studio was fully acquired by Blizzard.

Blizzard North alumni have gone on to form at least three independent game studios of note: ArenaNet, formed in March of 2000 by Mike O'Brien, Patrick Wyatt, and Jeff Strain (and since acquired by NCsoft); Flagship Studios, founded in 2003 by Brevik, the Schaefer brothers, and Bill Roper (among others); and Castaway Entertainment, also founded in 2003 by brothers Stefan and Mike Scandizzo.

By Curt Feldman -- GameSpot
POSTED: 08/01/05 03:12 PM PST


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: MrHat on August 01, 2005, 06:23:44 PM
/jizz


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Paelos on August 01, 2005, 07:23:11 PM
NOWISTHEWINTEROFYOURDISCONTENT!


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: schild on August 01, 2005, 09:03:28 PM
MrHat and I will be unavailable for comment after launch.

Even if it sucks.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: angry.bob on August 01, 2005, 09:35:51 PM
Eh, you won't be able to alt-tab out of it and will be 800x600 only. And it will use the same engine as Diablo 2.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: schild on August 01, 2005, 09:48:55 PM
Ok. Fine with me. Clickity click click.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Samwise on August 01, 2005, 09:56:53 PM
God forbid they work on something I'd play, like Starcraft 2.   :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: stray on August 01, 2005, 10:03:10 PM
Three words: Dawn of War


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: MrHat on August 01, 2005, 10:05:57 PM
God forbid they work on something I'd play, like Starcraft 2.   :heartbreak:

/jizz

Mother of God.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Llava on August 01, 2005, 10:08:04 PM
I will so play this.  I don't even like either of the Diablos much anymore, but out of loyalty to the name, I must play it.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: schild on August 01, 2005, 10:08:21 PM
They've been working on Starcraft II since at least last October. Don't ask how I know that.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: stray on August 01, 2005, 10:30:10 PM
but out of loyalty to the name, I must play it.

I don't know what's worse. Your statement or MrHat's repeated use of /jizz.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Llava on August 01, 2005, 11:01:31 PM
I played Diablo obsessively when it came out.  It was my introduction to online gaming.

Then when Diablo II came out, it reawakened the passion I had thought long dead.  I've always been a gamer, but this was my first catass game.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Margalis on August 01, 2005, 11:24:10 PM
I have low hopes for SC2 after Warcraft 3. War3 was a step backwards from SC in a lot of ways. Hopefully they will keep the psuedo-roleplay shit to Warcraft.

Edit: I never understood why there was a Blizzard North anyway. Seems odd to have 2 different parts of the company located in different areas. Especially when you aren't talking about some huge company with a wide portfolio of games.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Samwise on August 01, 2005, 11:25:48 PM
Honestly, if they made another SC expansion, same engine and everything, I'd still buy it.  And I'd definitely prefer that over something like WC3, which just didn't grab me at all.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Trippy on August 02, 2005, 12:02:02 AM
Edit: I never understood why there was a Blizzard North anyway. Seems odd to have 2 different parts of the company located in different areas. Especially when you aren't talking about some huge company with a wide portfolio of games.
Blizzard North was originally Condor Games who were contracted by Blizzard to do Diablo and then Blizzard acquired them.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Signe on August 02, 2005, 05:46:10 AM
but out of loyalty to the name, I must play it.

I don't know what's worse. Your statement or MrHat's repeated use of /jizz.

What does that mean, anyway?


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: stray on August 02, 2005, 06:09:50 AM
It means that we now have billions of Blizzard fanbois in this thread alone.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Roac on August 02, 2005, 06:10:53 AM
Gah, never liked Diablo 1/2.  Did like both SC and WC series, and thought SC > WC mainly because of the racial divides.  WC seems too thrown together by comparison, but they're both fun.  


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Mesozoic on August 02, 2005, 08:03:23 AM
I wonder why people assume D3 rather than SC2.  It would seem like SC is more due for a sequel, and that D3 would drain some WoW subscribers.  Sure, their RTS side got a (relatively) recent sequel in the form of WC3, but theres no revenue loss for hoisting SC2 on those people who might migrate from WC3 to SC2. 

(alphabet soup, I know.)


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: El Gallo on August 02, 2005, 08:07:42 AM
PLEASE

WORLD
OF
DIABLO

PLEASE THX


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Mesozoic on August 02, 2005, 08:08:59 AM
no, no...Diablo of Warcraft 4tw.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: El Gallo on August 02, 2005, 08:10:32 AM
I would get my legs run over by a bus just so I could collect disability and catass my life away.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: HaemishM on August 02, 2005, 08:13:56 AM
Am I the only motherfucker who just never got all that interested in either Diablo or Starcraft? I could give two shits if they ever made a sequel to either of those games again. I'd rather the bitches just fix the fucking Moonrunner server and smash the harvesting bug bullshit in WoW.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Trippy on August 02, 2005, 08:19:03 AM
I wonder why people assume D3 rather than SC2.  It would seem like SC is more due for a sequel, and that D3 would drain some WoW subscribers.  Sure, their RTS side got a (relatively) recent sequel in the form of WC3, but theres no revenue loss for hoisting SC2 on those people who might migrate from WC3 to SC2. 

(alphabet soup, I know.)
Well I don't know how many people were left at Blizzard North that worked on Diablo I or II but that was the whole purpose of the team up (t)here (making Diablos) so it would make sense to keep them on Diablo III if that was in fact what they were working on and they had been making good progress rather than shift them over to new projects.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: tazelbain on August 02, 2005, 08:21:29 AM
Starcraft done with instansizing like GW.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Yegolev on August 02, 2005, 08:42:05 AM
You people need to lay off the shit.  Seriously.  The braintrust has been dispersed, spawning three reasons I don't care about this news: GuildWars, Hellgate, and... uh... well I guess Castaway isn't doing anything, but you get my point.  Mike O'Brien is working programming magic at ArenaNet and the Schaefers are working design magic at Flagship.  I'll be bold and state DIII is going to be another WCIII, at best.  So will SCII.  You can't go home again, fuckers.  Just ask Kerrigan.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Paelos on August 02, 2005, 09:26:55 AM
I just liked the Diablo atmosphere. The music, the quests, the scenes. It felt more immersive than other games I've played, except Deus Ex. Most immersive game ever.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Yegolev on August 02, 2005, 09:29:06 AM
Thief II > Deus Ex, IMO.  But I'm weird like that.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Rodent on August 02, 2005, 09:33:25 AM
Thief II > Deus Ex, IMO.  But I'm weird like that.

No love the Dark project? Otherwise you are correct.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Samwise on August 02, 2005, 09:46:57 AM
So will SCII.  You can't go home again, fuckers.  Just ask Kerrigan.

 :cry:

 :heartbreak:


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Merusk on August 02, 2005, 09:53:02 AM
Gah, never liked Diablo 1/2.  Did like both SC and WC series, and thought SC > WC mainly because of the racial divides.  WC seems too thrown together by comparison, but they're both fun.  

The Diablo hate must be an age thing.  I never got it either, and I really tried.

The one thing I REALLY don't get about Diablo is the folks who bitch about MMOs just being 'click to win' games for 'the uber shiny.'  Which is all Diablo is.   My mind just can't bridge that divide and it makes me turn to porn browsing any time I try and reconcile it.

I'm not sure I follow you on the WC seeming thrown-together thing.  Maybe because Warcraft was the first RTS I'd ever played, but it all makes sense to me.  (As logicly as a video game CAN make sense, that is.)

Am I the only motherfucker who just never got all that interested in either Diablo or Starcraft? I could give two shits if they ever made a sequel to either of those games again. I'd rather the bitches just fix the fucking Moonrunner server and smash the harvesting bug bullshit in WoW.

I never got into Starcraft either, Haemish, so I'm with you there.  I'm not as big a sci-fi geek as I am a fantasy one, though, so I think that has something to do with it.  It was a good game, and all but really I enjoyed WC3 a lot more.

 Of course, given the hate a lot of RTS players have for WC3 I know i'm the oddball there, too.  I enjoyed all the races, and actually LIKED the Hero characters.  They weren't uber-tipping and you're exploring anyway, sojust send the hero with the group.  All the BS people would give about "omg i have 2 lvl the h3ro!? sux!" was simply because it ruined their 'perfect' RTS build-order paradise.  For folks with a big chunk  of 'explorer' in them like me it was a great feature.  But I digress.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Yegolev on August 02, 2005, 10:51:32 AM
Thief II > Deus Ex, IMO.  But I'm weird like that.

No love the Dark project? Otherwise you are correct.

Plenty of love, really.  Probably a mood thing.  Right now I am appreciative of T2's large maps.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Samprimary on August 02, 2005, 01:09:54 PM
no, no...Diablo of Warcraft 4tw.

World of Diablo of Starwarcraft of III


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Shockeye on August 02, 2005, 02:32:44 PM
Am I the only motherfucker who just never got all that interested in either Diablo or Starcraft? I could give two shits if they ever made a sequel to either of those games again. I'd rather the bitches just fix the fucking Moonrunner server and smash the harvesting bug bullshit in WoW.

/agree


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Shockeye on August 02, 2005, 02:33:14 PM
no, no...Diablo of Warcraft 4tw.

World of Diablo of Starwarcraft of III

World of Starblo


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Hoax on August 02, 2005, 05:18:51 PM
You people need to lay off the shit.  Seriously.  The braintrust has been dispersed, spawning three reasons I don't care about this news: GuildWars, Hellgate, and... uh... well I guess Castaway isn't doing anything, but you get my point.  Mike O'Brien is working programming magic at ArenaNet and the Schaefers are working design magic at Flagship.  I'll be bold and state DIII is going to be another WCIII, at best.  So will SCII.  You can't go home again, fuckers.  Just ask Kerrigan.

Time will tell, I feel the same way about the 2006 Patriots (fuck you New England, and your stupid Red/White/Silver team) but I haven't had many agree that the Pats minus their coordinators wont still be super bowl contenders.

As to the idea that Blizzard's games were never that good to begin with, I agree about SC.  Fuck that game tell me more about the spiritual sequel to TA please.  WarCraft was cool but I liked CnC allot more (orcs and elves and dwarves! zzz) before they ruined that franchise while trying to milk it like some kind of sadist farmer on pcp and my thoughts on Diablo echo Llava's completely.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: WindupAtheist on August 02, 2005, 06:09:27 PM
PLEASE

WORLD
OF
DIABLO

PLEASE THX

Why?  D2 was way the fuck more fun than WoW will ever be.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Mesozoic on August 02, 2005, 07:25:38 PM
PLEASE

WORLD
OF
DIABLO

PLEASE THX

Why?  D2 was way the fuck more fun than WoW will ever be.

Why do you talk?


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Margalis on August 02, 2005, 08:17:23 PM
Whether or not you like SC, SC certainly succeeded in being a game that was comercially successful, successful among harcore RTS players, and a worthy competitive game. Usually you can't get all of those. Often games that are comercially successful are pretty lousy at high levels of competition. War3 is a good example - pretty successful commercially but it was never the competitive game that SC was and the overall hardcore RTS community was kind of meh on it.

As far as talent and brain drain go, I hink people vastly *underestimate* the effects of talent drain. It's possible to have processes and culture in place to make products achieve a certain level - consistent art design, nothing terribly wrong, good production value, etc. You can keep those sorts of things as individual talent moves around. But truly exceptional efforts require exceptional people.

Diablo 2 was waiting for it's large patch for years, and that was underwhelming.

Blizzard seems strange to me. They make very few games and don't seem to grow as a company. You would think they would expand and put out a larger range of products or something.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Daydreamer on August 03, 2005, 12:44:52 AM
PLEASE

WORLD
OF
DIABLO

PLEASE THX

Why?  D2 was way the fuck more fun than WoW will ever be.

Why do you talk?

To hear himself speak, me thinks.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Descended on August 03, 2005, 04:25:54 AM
See... those who don't get D2 don't get it because they aren't playing the game for the shineys.  That's it.

Diablo 2's loot table system with randomly generated stats is TEH BESTEST.  If I could choose one thing to change about World of Warcraft, it would be a vasty more complex random loot generation system.  It takes me so little attention to parse through the attributes on a WoW item; please, can I have a few more options, a few more interesting item attributes, maybe the chance to find a randomly generated item with end game value?

Shiney...


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Strazos on August 03, 2005, 08:05:30 AM
Am I the only motherfucker who just never got all that interested in either Diablo or Starcraft? I could give two shits if they ever made a sequel to either of those games again. I'd rather the bitches just fix the fucking Moonrunner server and smash the harvesting bug bullshit in WoW.

Agreed.

I played Diablo a bit with some friends in HS.

I kinda liked SC...but played maybe twice online. I can't stand the rush bs that occurs in Blizzard games. I'm an old AoE player, and I like to actually build up my stuff, not amass some cheap units and throw them at people.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: sarius on August 03, 2005, 09:52:24 AM
They've been working on Starcraft II since at least last October. Don't ask how I know that.

Please don't let this suck!


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Miasma on August 03, 2005, 11:24:21 AM
They've been working on Starcraft II since at least last October. Don't ask how I know that.

Please don't let this suck!
Whatever happened to Starcraft: Ghost?  My favorite missions in Starcraft were the ones where you infiltrated a base and had to work your way through it, carefully expending your limited units.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: schild on August 03, 2005, 11:33:56 AM
Starcraft Ghost is still being made. I think the gold window is in October or November.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Yegolev on August 03, 2005, 11:38:46 AM
Whatever happened to Starcraft: Ghost?  My favorite missions in Starcraft were the ones where you infiltrated a base and had to work your way through it, carefully expending your limited units.

It's an action-packed interactive experience now.  If you liked Halo, you'll love Starcraft: Ghost!

Edited out some of the retard.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: tazelbain on August 03, 2005, 11:43:54 AM
Whatever happened to Starcraft: Ghost?  My favorite missions in Starcraft were the ones where you infiltrated a base and had to work your way through it, carefully expending your limited units.
Hated those missions, seem to rely on trial and error.

I, too, have wondered why there is no SC:G yet.  The game practically writes itself. Stealth in, avoid detectors, steal technology, lock-down key enemy assets, nuke the hell out of stuff.  My favorite way to play Starcraft was to just use ghosts and nukes to level everything.  Good times.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: schild on August 03, 2005, 11:44:26 AM
Do I spy a nested fucked up quote?


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Yegolev on August 03, 2005, 12:39:23 PM
My bad.
(http://www.yegolev.com/images/demond.jpg)


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: WindupAtheist on August 03, 2005, 01:05:41 PM
Sorry, but it's true.  D2 had a better loot system, faster and more entertaining combat, and had the benefit of being built for fun, as opposed to being built as a time-sink to maintain subscriptions.  I never had to stand around spamming LFG in D2, nor did I ever have to spend twenty minutes running down an empty road.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: WayAbvPar on August 03, 2005, 01:17:53 PM
I liked the Diablos- I even finished the first one, which may be the only video game I have ever completed in my life (other than a couple of the gold box games). I really didn't like Starcraft- just ain't my bag.

I will buy D3 and play it, although the 800x600 thing really bugs me. What year is it again?


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Rodent on August 03, 2005, 03:29:30 PM
Whatever happened to Starcraft: Ghost?  My favorite missions in Starcraft were the ones where you infiltrated a base and had to work your way through it, carefully expending your limited units.
Hated those missions, seem to rely on trial and error.

I, too, have wondered why there is no SC:G yet.  The game practically writes itself. Stealth in, avoid detectors, steal technology, lock-down key enemy assets, nuke the hell out of stuff.  My favorite way to play Starcraft was to just use ghosts and nukes to level everything.  Good times.

Didn't they decide to drop Nihilistic as a developer and turn to another one? That might explain why there is no SC:G yet.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Shockeye on August 03, 2005, 03:38:59 PM
Didn't they decide to drop Nihilistic as a developer and turn to another one? That might explain why there is no SC:G yet.

Swingin' Ape or something is developing it now which Blizzard acquired a few months ago.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Pococurante on August 04, 2005, 05:11:09 AM
I will buy D3 and play it, although the 800x600 thing really bugs me. What year is it again?

Amen.  I've gotten quite addicted to 1920x1280 widescreen.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Ironwood on August 04, 2005, 05:27:17 AM
See... those who don't get D2 don't get it because they aren't playing the game for the shineys.  That's it.

Diablo 2's loot table system with randomly generated stats is TEH BESTEST.  If I could choose one thing to change about World of Warcraft, it would be a vasty more complex random loot generation system.  It takes me so little attention to parse through the attributes on a WoW item; please, can I have a few more options, a few more interesting item attributes, maybe the chance to find a randomly generated item with end game value?

Shiney...

Sockets.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Calantus on August 04, 2005, 06:35:17 AM
Rares with lots of sweet mods.
Magics with 2 powerful mods.
Perfect Gems.
Magic Find.
Yummy.


They fucked up when they made uniques the best shit you could get, but you could ignore all that. There is still nothing in gaming like seeing a rare spin up into the air and land at your feet.

Also: *hork* *hork* *hork* *hork* <3

I'm ready for some sweet sweet D3 lovin'.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Sairon on August 04, 2005, 10:45:49 AM
Personaly I wasn't so crazy about D2, I lliked the first better. Better atmosphere in the first and a much larger achivement for its time, D2 wasn't all that much better than the first imo, still a game which was worth playing through.

I like Warcraft 3, I'm a real sucker for RPG elements no matter what genre we're talking about. What's primarly good about WC3 though is all the custom maps, and escpecialy a map called DoTA. The phenomen that is DoTA is huge, it's what CS is for HL.

To try and explain it to those who hasn't heard of it, it's 5on5 RPG with a truckload of diffrent classes. 2 bases which spawns computer controlled units trying to make it into the other teams base through fighting their ways through 3 diffrent lanes. Everybody controls 1 hero each which are good at diffrent things and at diffrent stages of the game, it's all suprisingly balanced. When you kill stuff you gain money and if you kill one of the oponents hero you gain a little bonus + that the enemy hero must wait a couple of seconds for respawn in their base. Money buys items, there's even a little crafting mechanism in which you build items togheter to more powerful shiny. If you haven't tried it and can afford / have wc3 + tft you should definetly give it a shot.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Ironwood on August 10, 2005, 08:04:39 AM
Uh, Link ?


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Sairon on August 10, 2005, 08:15:49 AM
http://www.dota-allstars.com/


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: MrHat on August 10, 2005, 09:11:04 AM
Personaly I wasn't so crazy about D2, I lliked the first better. Better atmosphere in the first and a much larger achivement for its time, D2 wasn't all that much better than the first imo, still a game which was worth playing through.

I like Warcraft 3, I'm a real sucker for RPG elements no matter what genre we're talking about. What's primarly good about WC3 though is all the custom maps, and escpecialy a map called DoTA. The phenomen that is DoTA is huge, it's what CS is for HL.

To try and explain it to those who hasn't heard of it, it's 5on5 RPG with a truckload of diffrent classes. 2 bases which spawns computer controlled units trying to make it into the other teams base through fighting their ways through 3 diffrent lanes. Everybody controls 1 hero each which are good at diffrent things and at diffrent stages of the game, it's all suprisingly balanced. When you kill stuff you gain money and if you kill one of the oponents hero you gain a little bonus + that the enemy hero must wait a couple of seconds for respawn in their base. Money buys items, there's even a little crafting mechanism in which you build items togheter to more powerful shiny. If you haven't tried it and can afford / have wc3 + tft you should definetly give it a shot.


Yup, another fun one (was when I was playing) was Tides of Blood.

They're just custom maps, but they're hella fun, they're where WoW gets it's Battlegrounds ideas from.  But they're better because after a 1 1/2h match, you can just make a new account and pick a new character.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Bunk on August 10, 2005, 09:16:36 AM
Am I the only motherfucker who just never got all that interested in either Diablo or Starcraft?

Yes.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Hoax on August 10, 2005, 09:37:33 AM
Who cares about D3 in 2037 when Hellgate London might be released like this decade?  Not to mention the fact that we'll get a fps view (I think?) which means more skill in locating shiney, and you'll be socketing shotguns with chain lightning n stuff.  Oh and even the illusion of player skill will make me play it longer.  Although I'd love to hear more about their pvp thoughts but I wouldn't love that enough to visit their website and read a dev blog or even worse a pre-beta forum so one of you handle that.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: stray on August 10, 2005, 05:40:47 PM
Am I the only motherfucker who just never got all that interested in either Diablo or Starcraft?

Yes.

No  :-)

[edit] Though I will say that I liked what Diablo spawned off. The rpg world probably wouldn't be the same without them.


Title: Re: Blizzard North shutdown, Diablo III in the works?
Post by: Ironwood on August 11, 2005, 06:12:43 AM
and you'll be socketing shotguns with chain lightning n stuff. 

Stop it, you tease.