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Title: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Shockeye on July 22, 2005, 03:06:42 PM
Quote from: Ocean City Today
Former morning show DJ charged with sexual assault (http://www.oceancity.md/octoday/headline.cfm?PubID=2981)
Jennifer Lehman
Staff Writer

(July 22, 2005) A local disc jockey and a 27-year-old man have both been charged in an alleged sexual assault case that occurred last month at a Snow Hill restaurant and bar, according to the Worcester County Bureau of Investigation.

Eric Littleton, 34, of Delmar, Del., and Robert Thomas West, of Snow Hill, were charged with indecent exposure, second-degree assault and fourth-degree sexual assault.

The reported incident occurred during a promotional event for WZBH 93.5 FM at the Tavern on Green Street on Friday, June 15, around 7 p.m.

According to reports, Littleton – more commonly known as “Cowboy” on the radio – promised West a pair of ZZ Top concert tickets if he exposed himself to a patron at the bar.

The victim, identified only as a woman who resides in northern Worcester County, was seated at a table with other customers when West reportedly approached her from behind and placed his testicles on her arm.

When the victim saw what was happening, West apparently backed away and exited the area.

“This was done in a public area and was observed by numerous patrons of the establishment,” reported the Worcester County Bureau of Investigation.

Through investigation, officials discovered the reason behind the act. They also learned Littleton approached the victim and began a conversation with her while West reportedly came from behind to perform the assault.

Great Scott Broadcasting confirmed Wednesday afternoon that Littleton is no longer working for the radio station.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: WayAbvPar on July 22, 2005, 03:08:47 PM
ZZ Top tickets? I wonder what he would have done for tickets to see a good band?


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Signe on July 22, 2005, 03:42:49 PM
Hey!  ZZ Top are way cool!  They make me smile.

I love soup, too.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: stray on July 22, 2005, 03:44:52 PM
Early ZZ is the shit.

Still, not worth jailtime.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: AOFanboi on July 24, 2005, 12:38:52 AM
Early ZZ is the shit.
Early anything is usually the shit. Why oh why do bands/artists sell out?

*listens sadly to Backwater from Quo by Status Quo*


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: stray on July 24, 2005, 01:49:54 AM
Early ZZ is the shit.
Early anything is usually the shit. Why oh why do bands/artists sell out?

*listens sadly to Backwater from Quo by Status Quo*

Not always the case, but most musicians have a backlog of songs that they've been performing since they learned their instruments and/or formed a band. 3 or 4 albums worth of material tops. Rarely even that.

If they get successful, their social lives change, their wants/needs change, their dreams change, and they're all crammed into a room and told to "Be a Genius". At that point, they're writing from a place lacking in any kind of inspiration or sincerity. No muses, no scene, nothing worth fighting for or struggling against.

At this point, some of the band members want to break up. Maybe the whole band. But they don't -- Either because they're under some restricting kind of contract to make another 2 albums, or because they decide to carry on because they believe in their own hype. Sometimes the label will notice all of this, and send in a "pro" (could be a producer, songwriter, or therapist) to help them find their beat. Either way, it makes the songs that much worse.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Merusk on July 24, 2005, 08:25:58 AM
Early ZZ is the shit.
Early anything is usually the shit. Why oh why do bands/artists sell out?

*listens sadly to Backwater from Quo by Status Quo*

Later Faith No More > Early Faith No More.

It's also not always a case of 'selling out' as much as 'getting old.'  It's hard to maintain the angst and hate that makes good hard music as you get older, and the blues doesn't sell like it used to.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Paelos on July 24, 2005, 10:26:41 AM
The Rolling Stones IMO have made some excellent music across a lot of decades some of which I think has an even more defined sound than the original hits. Still, they are an exception to most rules of rock music.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Samwise on July 24, 2005, 11:53:44 AM
The Beatles actually got more edgy the older they got, although that wasn't always a good thing.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: stray on July 24, 2005, 01:38:20 PM
The Beatles were only around 10 years though. Longer than most, but still, that isn't much. They were smart for quitting while they were ahead. That's a good example of what bands should do.

The Stones are still cool and all that, but they haven't made a great album since 1974. And they probably would have started writing crap earlier than that if Brian Jones didn't die (Not trying to be a jerk..I'm just saying that once Keith and Mick took over, it breathed new life into the band).


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Signe on July 24, 2005, 04:19:52 PM
Early ZZ is the shit.
Early anything is usually the shit. Why oh why do bands/artists sell out?

*listens sadly to Backwater from Quo by Status Quo*

Ah... there isn't anything more American than Status Quo.  Well, maybe Dire Straits....

 :-P


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: schild on July 24, 2005, 05:49:33 PM
The phrase "sell out" should have died in 1988. Anyone who uses the phrase gets 4 demerits.

/goes to filter "sell out" into "buys in."

NEWSFLASH: PEOPLE LIKE MONEY AND BITCHES.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Signe on July 24, 2005, 05:51:55 PM
Why do you have to type so fucking loud?


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: schild on July 24, 2005, 05:52:50 PM
Why do you have to type so fucking loud?

I have an IBM Model M. I'm not particularly surprised you can hear it from Jersey. You should close your windows.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Signe on July 24, 2005, 05:53:56 PM
No worries.  Soon you'll be far away in some third world state.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: schild on July 24, 2005, 05:55:13 PM
No worries.  Soon you'll be far away in some third world state.

I'll have the label "Phoeniecian" while you'll still have "Bridge and Tunnel Crowd." Though, I'll admit, it's tough learning cuneiform (spelling? yes, ok).


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Velorath on July 24, 2005, 06:42:31 PM
Later Faith No More > Early Faith No More.

Mr. Bungle > Later Faith No More > Early Faith No More > Fantomas > Tomahawk.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Hanzii on July 25, 2005, 02:31:08 AM
Later Faith No More > Early Faith No More.

Mr. Bungle > Later Faith No More > Early Faith No More > Fantomas > Tomahawk.

Later Faith No More > Mr. Bungle > Early Faith No More > Fantomas > Kaadaa/Patton > Patton/rahzel > Tomahawk

The split up while they were at the top.... stupid fucking bastards!







... (it was exactly 1 month before my first Faith no More gig, and the tickets were paid)


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Samwise on July 25, 2005, 11:24:43 AM
Pai > caek.

END OF DISCUSSION.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Sky on July 25, 2005, 12:10:19 PM
I dunno, I think Tomahawk > Fantomas, unless you're really in the mood for Fantomas. But middle to late FNM is definitely the best stuff. Mike Patton is teh man.

Anyway, Stray is bang-on. Bands have their entire lives to write the first album, then are told to make an even better album in a year or so. Some bands are lucky enough to have several members who can write voluminously and consistently, but those are the exceptions to the rule. Some bands just take 5 years per album (tool).

Age, changing circumstances, label pressure, there are an infinite number of variations on the theme, but the theme is the main thing in most cases.

I love the early ZZTop, though they've had some decent tracks on just about every album. I own Fandango and a compilation called One Foot in the Blues, both really great albums. When they add in synths and all the big MTV hits is where I tend to lose interest.
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The phrase "sell out" should have died in 1988. Anyone who uses the phrase gets 4 demerits.

/goes to filter "sell out" into "buys in."
Schild's respect rating --


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Samwise on July 25, 2005, 12:15:58 PM
Schild's respect rating --

There's a pre/post-decrement joke to be made there somewhere, I can feel it.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Hanzii on July 25, 2005, 12:22:18 PM
I dunno, I think Tomahawk > Fantomas, unless you're really in the mood for Fantomas. But middle to late FNM is definitely the best stuff. Mike Patton is teh man.

I saw him give three concerts in two days at a recent festival (actually it was 4 in 3, but I missed the first due to it being an obscure Japanese techno act and Mike Pattons name not being in the title...
Great, but I'd still prefer to catch late FNM.

This sunday I'm off to my first U2 concert, which is great and all... but I'd rather have catched them I dunno, 10-20 years earlier in their carreer.
So I agree with everything Sky/Stray said.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Fargull on July 25, 2005, 01:29:43 PM
I am catching U2 in October in Dallas, first time for me also.  Had a roommate in college that caught the concert at Red Rock.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: schild on July 25, 2005, 02:52:11 PM
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The phrase "sell out" should have died in 1988. Anyone who uses the phrase gets 4 demerits.

/goes to filter "sell out" into "buys in."
Schild's respect rating --
Quote

They do say that 10th grade is the worst.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Sky on July 25, 2005, 03:22:03 PM
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The phrase "sell out" should have died in 1988. Anyone who uses the phrase gets 4 demerits.

/goes to filter "sell out" into "buys in."
Schild's respect rating --
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They do say that 10th grade is the worst.
Is that where they teach post formatting 101?


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Paelos on July 25, 2005, 03:23:32 PM
That's down the hall. Third door on the left.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Velorath on July 25, 2005, 03:26:11 PM
I saw him give three concerts in two days at a recent festival (actually it was 4 in 3, but I missed the first due to it being an obscure Japanese techno act and Mike Pattons name not being in the title...
Great, but I'd still prefer to catch late FNM.

I live in the Bay Area and tend to see his shows anytime he plays around here ( a lot of New Years Eve shows).  Seen a few Mr. Bungle shows, seen him with Faith No More, Fantomas, and Maldoror, and saw Tomahawk open for Tool a few years back.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Sky on July 25, 2005, 05:03:52 PM
I saw that tour with Tomahawk/Tool. Annoying and grating bitch I was with all but ruined it. Who the hell wants to hear some bitch gripe about work while fucking Mike Patton is singing? I almost denied her a ride home, broke up with her that night.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: stray on July 25, 2005, 05:09:43 PM
Anybody who talks about work, let alone gripes about it, is annoying and grating.

On a sidenote: I never made it to the 10th grade either.  8-)  :|  :roll:


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Velorath on July 25, 2005, 05:11:27 PM
I saw that tour with Tomahawk/Tool. Annoying and grating bitch I was with all but ruined it. Who the hell wants to hear some bitch gripe about work while fucking Mike Patton is singing? I almost denied her a ride home, broke up with her that night.

I always go to see Mike Patton with my brother and sister, who are also fans of his.  The night my sister and I saw Tomahawk and Tool, groupie that she is, she ended up with Maynard that night, and I've never been able to listen to Tool since.  I only wish that I was making that up.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Sky on July 25, 2005, 05:27:24 PM
I was backstage with Maynard and Danny after I saw them with the Melvins (who pwn btw). Got two passes from some kid for $20, I was sure they were bogus, and yet...they weren't!

I'm jonesing to see that SOAD/Mars Volta tour, sometimes it really, really sucks living in bumfuck, nowhere. I'd hate to see it at the Meadowlands, the closest venue. Next stop...Boston, fer crissakes. I wanna see SOAD, because they kick ass, but I really, really want to catch the Mars Volta. They rock my world (in a purely heterosexual and healthy way, of course).

edit: Post #2000, bitches!


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: Velorath on July 25, 2005, 05:40:08 PM
I was backstage with Maynard and Danny after I saw them with the Melvins (who pwn btw). Got two passes from some kid for $20, I was sure they were bogus, and yet...they weren't!

Yeah, the Melvins are good.  Saw them do a pretty good show with Jello one of the same nights I saw Patton.


Title: Re: Those crazy kids and their ZZ Top.
Post by: OcellotJenkins on July 25, 2005, 05:41:44 PM
edit: Post #2000, bitches!

You're a pretty cool mother fucker.  Want a cookie?   :rock_hard: