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League ID#: 184044
 
League Name: Bat Country
 
Password: dinggratz
 
Draft Type: Live Draft 
 
Draft Time: Mon Aug 8 7:30pm PDT [ Add to My Calendar ] 
 
Max Teams: 16
 
Scoring Type: Head-to-Head 
 
Start Scoring on: Week 1 
 
Can't Cut List Provider: Yahoo! Sports 
 
Max Moves: No maximum 
 
Max Trades: No maximum 
 
Trade Reject Time: 2 
 
Trade End Date: November 18, 2005 
 
Trade Review: League Votes 
 
Waiver Time: 2 days 
 
 
 
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules 
 
Playoffs: Week 15, 16 and 17 (8 teams) 
 
 
Roster Positions: QB, WR, WR, WR, RB, RB, TE, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN 
 
Stat Categories: Completions (1)
Incomplete Passes (-1)
Passing Yards (25 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (6)
Interceptions (-2)
Sacks (0)
Rushing Yards (10 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Receptions (1)
Reception Yards (15 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-2)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5)
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards (-3)
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards (-2)
Field Goals Missed 30-39 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 40-49 Yards (0)
Field Goals Missed 50+ Yards (0)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Point After Attempt Missed (-1)
Sack (2)
Interception (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (3)
Block Kick (3)
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns (6)
Points Allowed 0 points (10)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (8)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (5)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (3)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (1)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-1)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-3) 
 
Fractional Points: No 
 
Negative Points: Yes 

Keep in mind the scoring and shit isn't set in stone yet. If people have better ideas, I'm all for 'em.

I'm also toying with the idea of making this a PLUS league just because I love to throw money around and look important.

I'll join up, but might I offer these suggestions:

1 pt per 25 yrds passing.
1 pt per 10 yards rushing/recieving.
-0 per sack. 

Otherwise it's just going to be a touchdown league.  The person that lands this seaon's Priest Holmes would just steamroll.

Might want to add some more points for defensive stuff like blocked kicks, safeties, and points allowed unless you want to de-emphasize defense, which I have no problem with.  Defensive points got a tad nutty last year.

In. I am a FF whore.

The cellar awaits you.

If I end up last in football, I may retire from fantasy sports for good. No, If it were for money, I would finish in the highest spot that didn't pay, also known as the bubble. Or more often, the FUCKING BUBBLE.

2 pay leagues last year, 2 4th place finishes (one by fractions of a point). I nearly hung myself.

Pottsville Maroons are back again! [peptalk]I will not miss the playoffs by a slim margin this year. I will make the final four and I will come out on top![/peptalk]

The Kilts Wavers flap again!

I'm in.

I started a team call L Ron Hubbard, but, well, I nee to change the name.

Yes, I claim the crazy bastards in the name of Spain.

Would you like to buy a consonant? Or 2?

Any chance of moving the draft date? Mondays are bad for me, and 8/8 is like a month before the season starts.

Sure, I can move the draft date. But then it'll be at 11am on a Friday or worse.

This was the only time I could get that was "primetime" for both east and west coast and hopefully ensure a larger percentage of people showing up for the draft compared to last year.

Most draft times are long gone.

That is what I figured. Bollocks.

There are no more times available before the start of the season that begin any time after 1pm Pacific. Weekends are pretty much gone completely.

I don't get it.  It's teh intarweb, it's stateless, how can there be a shortage of available time?

Why don't they just round robin it over a month, reply at your leisure sort of thing?

I dunno. Send a message to Yahoo and tell them they suck. Then fill out your draft rankings in case you miss the live draft.

Translation: Our bandwidth bill is a killer. You football geeks are killing our servers. Thus, we will fuck you on the times to keep our bills down.

The Attack Monkies are in. Feel my monkey wrath!  :-P

Pig Skin Sluts are born.

The Bandwagon is back to defend the title.

I Need an Adult will be gunning for the bottom of the listings.  Since they didn't have a Bengals' helmet, I chose the other team that Paul Brown created.

Sorry, but you'll have to fight me for the cellar.

The P-Town Agoraphobes are cautiously taking the field...

(http://images.allposters.com/images/HPM/SM1082.jpg)

Just reviewing the league stats, I would STRONGLY suggest leaving out weeks 17 and 18. They have been total crap the last 3 years with star players getting benched.

It is now set to playoff weeks being Week 14, 15, 16 with 8 teams.

8 teams?!?! That sort of totally makes the regular season useless expect for "who sucks the least."

Yes, 8 teams. I'm trying to ensure myself a spot in the playoffs but after last year, I wish there was an option for all 16 teams to go to the post season.

Meh, 4 teams is a man's league. Weed em out I say!  :evil:

I am a child.

Some suggestions:

Allow fractional points.  It has come down to this in some games.

8 playoff teams is too much.  That's over half the currently enrolled teams. That marginalizes the entire regular season.  6 team max (1 round bye for top 2).  4 would be better.  8 is just dumb though, don't be stubborn on this.

10 yrd/point for recieving yards.  We're going to be going awefully thin with a 14 team league and 3 WR slots to fill.   

Speaking of thin, I'd almost it rather be 2 WR slots, 1 RB slot and one WR/RB slot. With the amount of players we've got going, finding quality players is going to be a massive whore of a job.

Yes on fractions.
Meh on playoff teams.

The scoring model I am most familar with (simplified)

6 points per touchdown (passing, receiving, or rushing)
10 yards/point for receiving/rushing yards
25 yards/point for passing yards


Most leagues use this type of scoring- you can tweak it by adding bonus points for long touchdowns, or long FGs, etc. One of my favorites is it add .5 points per reception- helps even out the gulf between the top 10 RBs and the top 10 WRs a bit.

Positions-
QB
RB
WR/RB
WR
WR
TE
D/ST
K

That is what I would like to see.

/seconded

We already have a 1pt per reception built in.  It turned Brian Westbrook into a GOD last year.

Seemed to work fairly well though in entirety.

Yeah, I like Way's categories there.

So we're keeping it at 8 then? 8 out of 14 teams?

I strenuously object to this. 6 should be the absolute max. There's no reason in any league that we should play 14 weeks and eliminate less than half by playoff time.

Chill Winston.  It's fantasy football with geeks from F13.

My point isn't that it's not supposed to be for grins. It is a fun league. My point is that it should have SOME aspect of competition in it, and 57% playoffs is sort of silly.

Ok, I made some changes.

League ID#: 184044
 
League Name: Bat Country
 
Password: dinggratz
 
Draft Type: Live Draft 
 
Draft Time: Mon Aug 8 7:30pm PDT
 
Max Teams: 16
 
Scoring Type: Head-to-Head 
 
Start Scoring on: Week 1 
 
Can't Cut List Provider: Yahoo! Sports 
 
Max Moves: No maximum 
 
Max Trades: No maximum 
 
Trade Reject Time: 2 
 
Trade End Date: November 25, 2005 
 
Trade Review: League Votes 
 
Waiver Time: 1 day 
 
 
 
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules 
 
Playoffs: Week 14, 15 and 16 (6 teams) 
 
 
Roster Positions: QB, WR, WR, RB, TE, W/R, K, DEF, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN 
 
Stat Categories: Completions (1)
Incomplete Passes (-0.5)
Passing Yards (25 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (6)
Interceptions (-2)
Sacks (-0.25)
Rushing Yards (10 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Receptions (0.5)
Reception Yards (10 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Touchdowns (6)
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-1)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (6)
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (4)
Field Goals 50+ Yards (5)
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards (-3)
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards (-2)
Field Goals Missed 30-39 Yards (-1)
Field Goals Missed 40-49 Yards (0)
Field Goals Missed 50+ Yards (0)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Point After Attempt Missed (-1)
Sack (2)
Interception (2)
Fumble Recovery (2)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (3)
Block Kick (3)
Kickoff and Punt Return Touchdowns (6)
Points Allowed 0 points (10)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (8)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (5)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (3)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (1)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-1)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-3) 
 
Fractional Points: Yes 
 
Negative Points: Yes 

WTF. No.

How about completions 0.5 and incompletes -0.25?

How about swiss cheese and beef?  Really, quarterback formula worked pretty well last year.  No reason to tinker with it or add something that will just widen the gap between Patrick Ramsey and Peyton Manning.   

Edit: I think with what we have now QB, RB and WR production will all be pretty much equal. 1 pt per reception kind of made WRs gods.  Adding points to completions would just distance QB production from WR and RB production somewhat.  Is that what people want?  Just for a point of reference, one season for a while we had 1 pt per 10 passing yards, it wasn't recieved well.

I am happy with the playoffs now. Stats seem ok except for the incomplete thing. It sort of ruins the QB as a scoring force, but since it's the same for everyone I can get used to it.

Punishing for incompletions is not a good plan. It severely weakens the QB contribution to the point of a 2nd tier WR since it is not adjusted for total passes thrown.  Take it out.

Other than that, everything looks good. 0.5 for receptions is fun. I usually do 0.35 or 0.25, but always willing to play with new tweaks.

Did we have points for completions last year?  I might be spacing there.  I just can't remember.  Anyhow (.25) per completion for a QB might not be totally out of line.

In a good game a QB will have 25 or so completions, 2+ td's and 1 or 2 int's for 250+ yards.  In a great game a QB will have 40 for 400 and 4td and 0 int's.

Giving points for completions will make the QB dwarf every other player on the team.  The winner will be whoevers QB had the better game.

That was essentially my league in the office last year. QBs could put up as many as 70 points in a game. I should know, I had Peyton.

That being said, completions are a good idea, and I think .25 is fair. Int's should be costly. I'd say (-3) or (-4) per with TD's at 6.

Ack, no, horrible. No reason to screw with (-2) for turnovers.

There is a reason that completions and incompletions are NOT given point values in 99.99% of leagues. Interceptions at -2 is completely standard.

Ok, I set completions to 0.25 and incompletes at 0.

I like negatives, BTW.

I was also in the cellar last year and want to punish the rest of you.

Peyton Manning is absolutely #1, then, in this league. 0.25/completion is almost an extra touchdown every game for him. This is good for Favre and Culpepper too.

Since when would completions even matter for Manning being #1. It's just gravy really. The cat throws 4 TDs a game and 350+ yards.

I cannot deny that even without a completion bonus he shouldn't go later than pick #4 or 5, but he is solidly the king with it. My problem with drafting Manning #1 is that every goddamn league that has drafted so far this year is picking him #1. This kind of consensus usually ends up disappointed.

So what's the vote on completion points? Keep them or drop them?

I'd like to even out the quarterback points a bit and not have Manning and the other two knobs so far above everyone else.

No on completion points.

I'd give it a no too.

I vote yes, because I like QBs.

WWJD?

Sorry, had to. I'm better now.

Stick to PMS threads there, chief  :-P

Update your blog, tiger.

Some sick and twisted part of me wants to create a football league where you get points for bad things, like fumbles and ints and incomplete passes and negatives for completions and touchdowns.

In that league, the 49ers would be king.

Section 11 is up for the masses. I dedicate it to you.

I say no as well on completion points.  At the very least if you're dead set on having them you need negatives for incompletes.

Can we get a final resolution on the completion points? Draft being tonight and all. I also vote no - again.

I keep forgetting to do research. Probably because my local team hasn't even played a preseason game yet! Goddamned Yahoo and their early draft...

Yep, this is so sudden I haven't even done my rankings yet (being a horrible procrastinator doesn't help either).  God, there's just so many question marks heading into this one.   Going to be a lot of luck involved in this.

I'd give advice but I don't want to prevent someone from picking someone that might not even start. I'm going to need all of the help I can get.

Looks like today I'm not going to be getting much done at work.

Heh, fuck, that's tonight? What time?

10:30 EST.  You figure it from there.

I'll be there most likely. With a drink in hand. Hopefully I can hold it together for a couple hours and not draft Ricky.

We should get as many folks on TS as possible- it will make the wailing and moaning and gnashing of teeth that much more enjoyable when I grab someone's sleeper 1 pick ahead of them.

Address: teamspeak.thew0rld.com:7654
Password: catass2victory

Drafting on TS? That sounds hilarious.

I have no microphone  :x

I take it you can still listen though?

Yup.

DON'T IP BAN ME I'M LEARNING TS!

Damn, no repeat this year I'm thinking... Doubtful I'll be able to make the draft as I play football tonight, and I've barely had a chance to look at Yahoo's shitty rankings, let alone research how I want my rankings to go...

No on completion points as well. Completion percentage would be a better stat.  :evil:

Yeah, fuck Yahoo for making the draft this early. I have no idea who to pick, nor have I made any rankings. Seat of my pants 4TW.

I logged on to our TS thing, but I can't talk and I can't send messages. I'm lost.

I'll turn off completion points.

We still have 2 spots open in the league.

God, lock it then. We don't need anymore more people. 

Anyhow, why is this thing showing me on MST. I thought Arizona was on PST at the moment.

It is.  But unless your location is actually set as "Arizona" (Or if they even have an allowance for that and Indiana, our other bastard state) then you'll flipflop with the rest of the silly ass country.   And hey, even better with the new energy bill you get to be all fuxored for an additional month as of 2007.

Go into "Edit Team Info" and change your timezone settings to whatever works for you. I had to switch from Central/Chicago to Central GMT-6 to get it to work right.

wtf, does this even work with firefox?

Yes.

I win. You all can just pack it up and go home now.

I see Bennie making a season of it this year. You'll be swapping out Favre in no time, Shockeye.

Never! Outside of the bye week, there is no reason to ever doubt the Favre.

Did someone say Peyton? Quite frankly, on most weeks, that's all I'll need.

I would just like to say, fuck my microphone, and fuck my ISP. 

Of course the angry kick I gave the router when fucking with wires probably didn't help. However, since I'm an American nothing is inherently my fault, so it's all the ISP's problem.

I am pretty happy with my team, considering my horrifying draft position. If Hines Ward signs and Steve Smith can come all the way back, I am in good shape, methinks.

I have a weak bench.  My last 3 picks weren't stellar and I missed a couple opportunities. I have a feeling anyone that gets bit hard by the injury bug is going to have a rough time, especially with the slim pickings on the waiver wire.   

My starting 5, if Jackson and Bennett don't go bust, has the potential to put up a scary amount of points.

My team's biggest worries are that the Edge isn't going to be happy in Indy, Reggie Wayne will get less balls because of Stokely or Harrison, Fred Taylor sprains his labia again, Buffalo's D is a one-hit wonder and Larry Fitzgerald can't catch enough balls with Kurt Warner being on his back all the time. I didn't really get a blockbuster points producer. Brady is money, but not big money. I forsee a middle of the pack run for me.

I did... okay.  The clock next to the comp said 7:25, but I missed the entire first round.  If Holmes can stay healthy, I'll be thrilled.

I actually like my team.  Bulger will probably kill me a few weeks with some excessive INT games, but he'll have more fantasy-friendly games to compensate.  The problem there is that I flaked on getting a decent backup, so I'll have difficulty game planning matchup issues for the weeks where the Rams play a tough pass defense.

RB wise, I like the fact that I got T. Jones in the 13th round.  He'll probably get replaced by Benson at some point, but given the length of that holdout situation, it'll be later in the season, and I've got a guy who'll get 25-30 touches a game.  Caddy Williams is strictly under the hopes that he gets into that 25-30 touches a game pace himself at some point early in the season.  And, again, I need Priest to stay healthy.

I like my depth at wide receiver.  I missed on a few late opportunities to do better, but overall my biggest fear is consistency.  I probably took Branch too early, but I think with Patten gone and Terrell being terrible, I think it's his year to get into that 1000+yd 10+td range.  T.O. will show up and put up numbers, but that's just an assumption on my part.

The Bears defense, which was decimated by injuries last year, still put up 35 sacks, 28 TOs, 6 TDs, and 3 safeties.  The gang is all back in good shape *knock on wood*, so I was thrilled to pick them up late.  Of course, I've probably just triggered the annual injury bug.

I have two steady if unimpressive RBs in Lewis and Portis, both of which have a chance of outperforming mediocre 2004 results. Nate Burleson in round 4 seemed like a gift. Collins threw a lot of picks in New York, but his receivers sucked so I am expecting Moss to make him (and me) look good.  Hopefully I can trade a surprisingly decent Pennington for a top #2 WR to one of you dipshits around week 4.

Collins made as many INT's in Oakland as he did in New York. I do expect Moss will help, but only by inflating his TD numbers even more. Also, Jerry Porter will now be a better receiver.

I think my draft strategy was the following:

1) Avoid problem attitudes and holdouts.  My biggest asshole on the team is David Boston and he's not going to be a factor.

2) Avoid players in bad offensive systems.  Good for the most part, although I do have Derrick Mason, two Dallas players (Whitten is their system though outside of Jones), and Boston.

3) Avoid fragile players.  Boston.

4) Avoid running-back by committee and training camp battles.  Only really LJ and Antwon Randle-El fit this. And they're backups. Well, and Boston. 

5) Avoid rookies.  Got Edwards, but he's just a pure intrigue pick.  Rookie WR's rarely produce worth shit.

I passed up a lot of potentially good players for these criteria.  Ronnie Brown, Cadillac Williams, Terrel Owens, JIHAD, Barber (couldn't justify him being a first pick), Thomas Jones, DeShaun Foster, etc.  May come down to bite me in the ass, but it's just really early in the season to be taking what I'd consider big risks.  My two dumb picks I'd have to say are Boston (obvious) and Randle El.  Just not sure he's going to pan out even though he showed signs of brilliance last year.

That draft position was killer.  Two players I was set to draft ended up getting selected either 1 or 2 picks ahead of me.  No Randy Moss or Julius Jones for me.  Ironically one is a attitude problem and the other is in a shitty system.   I was hoping to pick up D. Jack, but I had to secure a running back and wasn't 100% confident on selecting an Oakland running back.

Burleson was the steal of the draft followed pretty closely by Jake Delhomme. Way probably did the best with sleeper picks.  A lot of those guys could end up being major points producers.

I cannot deny he has been an INT machine, but if he gets 5 more TDs and 5 less INTs than 2004 I look smart. If he doesn't improve at all, then Moss was a disaster.

I can almost guarantee that Moss will be a disaster. He will put up some good numbers, but the guy is a self centered cockmunch that will destroy any team he is on.

So, T.O. just walked out of training camp after getting in an argument with Reid in a team meeting? 

Nice.  What the fuck was I thinking?

Meltdown begins.


EX-CELLENT.

Yeah auto draft picked them both up for me.  No way would I have selected Moss that high but I completely forgot to rate my players,  just forgot out draft started before the preseason even started.  I'm pretty happy with how the draft went though, even with Moss.  Even got a pair of decent QBs, Hasselbeck should do well and don't laugh but with the new receiver core Boller could have a nice year statwise.  Just glad I didn't wind up with TO  :p

Hah, I had a feeling you were on auto-draft, which is why I'm so suprised I got Drew Bennet.  He was the top ranked player by far left when I got to select him.  Yahoo's rankings were pretty decent, because I can't really think of a situation where I'd rather have Steven Jackson over Julius Jones.  You ended up with a good team, if a couple of your selections I think were a tad over rated by Yahoo.

In retrospect, I'm really glad you got Moss and I ended up with Culpepper.  Although a possible Culpepper/Moss tandem would have been fucking hilarius.

Really? I would take Jackson every time. He is in a far better offense, for one thing.

Yeah that combo woulda been amusing to say the least.  I'm so glad I got Julius though, had him on almost all my teams last year simply for being a cowboys fan, was quite shocked that I got him without rating at all.  I think Collins should be able to connect with Moss fine though, hell all Dante did was air it out and let Moss jump for it for a few years and Kerry sucks but he can throw it deep at least.  Yeah a few screwy picks in there, grabbed a kicker way to early and the final picks there were alot of gems left but I can't complain, its a solid enough team.  Looking through the teams I like the matchups should be a close year.

Obviously I'm pleased with Peyton, but I'm also happy with Horn, and my defense. The real question for my team is, will Warrick Dunn or Kevin Jones be a better runningback?

Players coached by Mike Martz make me nervous.  Who knows if the batty asswipe all of the sudden decides it's time to resurrect a completely faded Marshall Faulk or go 5 wide on every down? I'm just hoping he's got some control of his faculties and realizes what he saw last year was someone who's about 200% as effective as the alternative running the ball.

They said he's number 1.  He showed the talent of a #1 last season. He's on a team that plays on turf.  Yet, I'm still nervous.

I would never get any St Louis person just cause of that damn coach, what a complete retard.  Impossilbe to predict his psychosis. 

Except for those days when Martz's robot brain freezes up and he forgets that he has a running game.

I don't think there is anybody on the planet who hates Martz more than me, but I would still happily take Jackson or Holt. Even Bruce and Bulger, if the situation were right. Hell, I took Marshall Faulk.

Basically, there is too much talent on that offense for even a douchebag of Martz's caliber to totally stifle.

Hmmm, he was asked not to return until next Wednesday. That's cute.

I'm trying to look on the bright side - he'll be nice and fresh for the regular season and put up huge numbers! 

I can't imagine he'll have many friends in that locker room though. 

And who would trade for him at this point?  That's not a question for Andy Reid, it's for you guys.  Seriously.  Anyone?

I bet Shanahan could do it.

How I hate thee.

Minnesota might take him. They seem to like fixer-uppers.

T.O. has gone off the deep end into batshit insane terrirtory. I heard him on the radio yesterday talking about the thing at his house. Way to not be a distraction to your team, you cockass monkeyfucker. You have now redefined the term "locker room poison." It ain't all about business, because if you were a professional, you wouldn't grumble about autograph sessions and diss your supposed friends and coworkers with words like "I wasn't the one who got tired in the Super Bowl." Take your sprained groin, hang it on the wall next to your sprained labia and shut your stupid, cock-filled gob.

Philly won't pay him any more, and they won't trade or release him, because that's what he wants. They should just suspend his ass for the year on GP.

I hope the NFL is happy, because this is a situation of their own making. He fucked up and was obligated to play for San Fran at the beginning of last year, so they traded him to Baltimore. But he didn't want to go to the Ravens, so he bitched, whined and complained, even though he legally had NO POSSIBLE EXCUSE to say his contract or the trade was invalid. The NFL let him have his way and now they as a league and the Eagles as an organization are paying for it, because now he's doing exactly what he did then.

As for teams that would trade for him, the Raiders. Al Davis would take him. Imagine Moss AND Owens on the field. I'm not sure if a pass would ever get caught, as those two cockholsters would either be too busy jawing at each other, or trying to outprimp the other one.

Dammit, I completely missed this thread.  I never look at the stickies on gaming.  As the Roosters were poised to reclaim their past glory, you should all be grateful.

Whoever has the Steelers Defense, congrats. They look awesome so far.

hehe, McLoss

I took a 49er off the wire. Does that mean my team is doomed?

Not as bad as my baseball team seems to be.

I am racking my brain trying to think of who you could possibly want, so it is probably not a good sign.

Ricky Williams is looking like he was a good choice :)  Too bad the Dolphin's O line is so weak or he would have been a great choice.

I'm pretty happy with my team, I would like another decent RB for back-up but I've got some excellent WR's.  Reche Caldwell could easily be a top 10 WR in the NFL if he stays healthy, possibly my best late draft pick.

I'll give you top 20, but to crack the top 10 both he and Brees would have to have career years, IMHO.

Um, exactly?

The Chargers look very strong offensively right now.

Not without Gates they don't. The passing game will be severely curtailed if they don't get him in camp, healthy, happy, and ready soon.

Gates will play this season, and if the Chargers feel like it, they can lessen his suspension. The problem I see with any Charger reciever is that I figure LT will come away with 20+ touchdowns this year.  I know he's be consistently amazing, but I really expect him to just slay this year.  Plus, Gates will be playing like it's a contract year because I honestly don't see him in San Diego with all of the bad blood between them.  A San Diego WR may get some yardage, but it's hard to see them walking away with a lot of touchdowns. 

Could be wrong though.  Perhaps it's just my bitterness seeping through at not grabbing him or McCardell in the later rounds.

Wait, Gates is feuding with the Chargers? How did I miss that news?

Oh right, Terrell "I Really AM a Raging Douchebag" Owens.

I took Llloyd on a whim. And because he's the only starter left.

If you need an RB, Mewelde Moore is going to start Week 1. Neverland is open to trading ideas for anyone desperate at RB.

I am getting more and more concerned with my RBs Lewis and Portis. Ugh. I kind of held my nose when I picked them and things aren't getting better. Kerry Collins needs an incredible year for Neverland Bandstand to make the playoffs, I fear.

Yeah, good luck with that. Collins is allergic to success...if he has a couple of big weeks, he will do something to sabotage himself.

You mean like throw the football?

I am so disgusted with the way games are going this weekend. Bleh.

Peyton! Why hast thou foresaken me?!

EDIT: Ask, and you shall receive, my brothers!

2 TDs in 7 throws.

The Good: 3rd highest point total this week.
The Bad :  Played against the highest scorer this week (damn you haemish)
The Ugly:  Nothing really, played my best players this week.

At least I'm beating Haem in the Morlock league... unless McNabb has a monster game   :|

Lowest score!

Not good enough, bitch! And my RBs were horrible.   :evil:

I had a nice pseudo-bye this week against Shockeye...good to start the season with a win  :evil:

Head to Head is still fucking retarded. See Zetleft's post above for a shining example of why.

I rush towards the bottom.. and eagerly await my crushing defeat.  I hope Dillon's hamstring explodes. (Mainly because he was a douche when he was in Cinci.)

It's entirely possible. How weird is it that we play each other first week in both leagues, and have an almost complete reversal of scores?

Jake Plummer sucks with an unbelievably loud sucking sound. How the fuck do you lose to MIAMI? Of course, Mike Martz lost to San Fran, so I can only assume it was one of his "I have a running game?" weeks.

I <3 Buffalo's D. David Carr does not. I knew Marcus Pollard would be a good pickup, apparently Joey Harrington loves to throw to him.

Fuck Favre. I'm going with Big Ben.

Yeah, now that his best WR is out for the year, things will be even worse for ol' number 4.

Green Bay looked fucking awful. I Tivo'd that game, and it was just excruciatingly painful watching the joke the Pack has become. While I don't want to downplay Detroit, because I think they have turned into a decent team, the Pack couldn't even do the things that they are good at. You know, like run the fucking ball. Favre looked terrible, his timing was completely off. He had two or three long passes with an open (or almost open) receiver that he just flat out overthrew. I couldn't point to any one thing and say "That's what the problem is." It was just bad.

Of course, the defense was even worse. Why is Ahmad Carroll starting on this time? I mean, are all the other DB's just that shitty? This guy had THREE FUCKING HANDS TO THE FACE PENALTIES. You'd think he'd learn not to do that, especially since every Lions' receiver is about 2 inches taller than him (meaning he has to make more effort to reach up to pop them in the chops). He did this all last year, and he hasn't improved at all.

It's going to be a long season for me.

Alcohol. Plenty of alcohol.


The Seaturds got off to a fabulous start- they fumbled the opening fucking kickoff. That is what you get when your return guy couldn't even keep a job with the Cardinals-when they were even shittier than they are now.

I can't believe the Bears had the nerve to go into D.C. with a cocky attitude.  Unbelievable!  The drops, false starts, other assorted fuck-ups by normally reliable guys just ruined what should have been, honestly, an easy easy win.  Apparently Orton was talking a lot of shit during the game.  I'm fairly certain he's going to be really good - it wasn't his fault they lost, surprisingly enough - but that's Cade McNown type shit I didn't expect.  Hopefully he can back some of it up at home against Detroit this week.

Off to a decent start, fantasy wise, considering I forget to set my roster before going on vacation last week.

I hate my defense. And Baltimore.

Glad to see that McNabb absolutely sucked this week haemish.  At least we split the series on our improbable opening week games :P

Packers sucking sure does hurt the value of Green, that's gonna hurt me alot unless Droughns improves in Cleveland.  Down 1 quarter back already so hope Hasslebeck doesn't let me down.  Yeah Pollard came up big for you as did Buffalo, and your Cardinal reciever beat the hell outta mine... won't get much of a break next week facing Murg.  Could turn up a quick 0-2. 

Oh and btw WayAbvPar, Steven Jackson 8.80 points, Julius Jones 18.60  :D

I have to hope and pray to avoid injuries, I'm not very deep anywhere.

Not only did I stay up way too late to watch my Eagles lose, I lost in another league by 0.73 points. I just needed one more catch from Alge damnit!

'tis only week 1. I expect better things, although I didn't take the Martz factor seriously enough.

I'm just waiting until Peyton plays a soft D. Then, it's all over for whoever I'm matched up against.

I only caught bits and pieces of the game last night, but it looked like McNabb was in the dirt a lot, and Owens was taking a powder on about half of his passes, including that last one. D'Angelo Hall and Rod Coleman 4TW! Unless you have McNabb on your team, like I did in the Morlocks. Fuck you, Terrell, bring it all or shut the fuck up. Delhomme was actually a better QB. Gus FUCKING Frerotte was hotter.

Green's value is going to go way down if they continue to play like that. I forsee lots of early season fumbles, and a significant injury by week 10. He's going to get pounded, because they won't have the wideouts to take Brett's passes now that Javon is down. Sherman will ride him like a bucking bronco, straight into the doldrums. Expect a lot of 3 and outs this season. I should just start drinking the minute the Packers' games come on.

I'm in for a long season in this league due to my inability to formulate a drafting plan.

But the Bucs beat the Vikings, and I fucking hate the motherjesusfucking Vikings. The Bucs can go 0-15 for the rest of the season and I'll still consider it a success since they beat the fucking Vikings.

From what I could tell, the Vikes are in for a long season. And all is right with the world. I begin to believe more and more that maybe, just maybe, the Lions could win that division at 9-7.

The Vikings will rebound.

They have to.

They will.

There's a solid chance I may set the record for least points ever in a fantasy week.

I am posting this from London say just one thing...

GODDAMN YOU, DANTE CULPEPPER.

Edit: Europe is nice. It takes the sting off FF starting off so bad and missing the first two weeks in the season.

HA HA HA

Carson Palmer gave me a 29.78 point game off the Vikings.  Ow.

Next week:  Hameish shows me why Scotts don't wear anything under their kilts.  I'm going to get stomped so hard I can already feel it. 

Silly me thinking Kurt Warner will actually be able to throw touchdowns to his goddamn wideouts against the fucking Rams. THE FUCKING RAMS, who couldn't even stop San Francisco from winning. WHAT... THE... FUCK? Also, Stephen Davis has a big game against the Patriots? Seriously, WHAT? How did David Carr even have a better game than fucking Warner?

Oh right, WARNER SUCKS.

And the fucking Lions just disappointed the shit out of me. Not as badly as watching my Packers lose to Trent Goddamn Dilfer. I pity the foo' that has any Packers' players, or God forbid, their defense.

Manning put 2 points on the board, fucking TWO.

Don't talk to me about other QBs sucking.

EDIT: Down by 60 points going into monday night with only my Defense, 2 WRs, and a TE.

AND I PULLED IT OUT! BEST MONDAY NIGHT GAMES EVER! SANTANA MOSS WENT INSANE!

MOTHERFUCK YOU SATANANA MOSS.

He didn't hurt my fantasy game and Dallas D still helped me win in my other fantasy league but goddamn that game shoulda been so fucking over.  End of the day a dallas loss, especially like that, sours any fantasy wins. 

ps. bullshit holding call on 3rd down.

Meh, not much I can do with 2/3rds of my team grossely underperforming (some as much as 1/5th projected).  Drew Brees scored 3 pts, Corey Dillon had 3.6, Chris Chambers with 4.4 and Jimmy Smith managed a whopping 6.4.

Hopefully now that they have all gotten thir bad week out of the way we can move on to our regularly scheduled ass-kicking.

That Skins/Boys game was just insane. There is no goddamn way that Santana Moss should have had that much unmolested space over the middle of the field like that. I mean, when Mark Brunell and his walker beats you in the 4th quarter, you have some serious problems.

My win total now surpasses last year.

*yawn*

Another 30 points left on the bench this week.  Ho-hum!

Seriously, the Bears D was heroic last week, but I fear the Bengals this Sunday.  At best, 37 points from the defense is doubtful.

woooo 2nd least amount of points is good enough for 3rd place!

Oh look- I get matched up with the highest point total of the week AGAIN. Have I mentioned how much I fucking loathe head to head fantasy leagues?

I wish you weren't a liar.

I lost again.  Fuck you Tomlinson 50 fucking points.  Our stats need to change, 50 points? FIFTY?

And my Cinc defence gets 5 interecptions, holds to 7 points, and recovers a fumble and I get what? 17?

Don't be a dipshit.  17 points from a defense is completely acceptable (30 point efforts always involve a defensive TD and lots of sacks) and LT had 192 yards rushing, 3 touchdowns, 6 receptions for 28 yards, and even threw a touchdown.  If you don't get 50 points for that, I don't know what to say.  Hey, sometimes you just run into monster games.  Westbrook put up 35 for you, which aint too shabby.

And my team sucks.  What a bunch of fucking underachievers. Draft rounds 1-5 and 7 have been complete busts so far. Stupid bastard Dante Culpepper finally puts up good numbers and STILL only manages a point more than Drew the Living Scupture. At least 3-4 players each week decide to stink it up.   My leading points scorer hasn't started a game for me all season and my defense is in second place with a whopping 5 more points that LT put up THIS WEEK.   

The basement is mine, and will probably be all season. HOO-fucking-RAY.

I got hosed this week. Thanks Arizona for making sure Kirt Warner cannot throw a touchdown pass EVAR. Oh and he's out now, so the prospects for Fitzgerald are even worse, except that next week, he plays against the worst pass D in the league in San Fran. Somehow, both in this league and the Morlocks league, I got lit up. I get beat by 4 points because I picked Buffalo's D over Jacksonville's. The rest of my bench was pathetic. In the Morlocks league, I do well except for being matched up against the guy with both Shaun Alexander and Steve Smith. TATTOOED!

Also, just so everyone keeps it in mind, GREEN BAY FUCKING SUCKS. Their defense has gotten ONE GODDAMN TURNOVER the whole season, and they've turned the ball over 8 fucking times. SIGH. Fire the coach, fire the general manager especially since he did FUCKALL in the offseason to improve the d, other than driving Darren Sharper to Minnesota.

I forsee Edgerrin James getting run down by the end of the season. He is carrying that team (and my team) and the wideouts just aren't TD's. And if that defense lasts all year, I'll be real surprised.

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO MIAMI!?!?!?! They have won 2 games. Why? Where is Buffalo's run defense? Or their passing? Oh, right, their passing is in Dallas. Can the Saints look anymore inept? I think they have hit the wall in terms of exhaustion, and it's only going to get worse from here. No matter where they end up next year, it'll be a miracle if Haslett is still coaching there.

The Rams are 2-1, but are not a legitimate contender. I watched their game yesterday, and their defense really benefitted from the Titans not having a deep threat. They just stacked the line, and still almost lost the game. Their offense isn't that high-flying, but Steven Jackson IS the real deal. Their O Line is shit, though.

Eli Manning is the real deal. If his defense had been even half-awake, the Giants could have won that game. As it was, LT just gashed the fuck out of them, and when they tried to stop him, Gates and McCardell 4TW. It was ugly. The Chargers D, meanwhile, is not what it's going to need to be. Looking at their upcoming games, I forsee a tough, tough road ahead. The Giants, meanwhile, could sneak into a wild card berth, if their Defense returns and their O Line holds up. Philadelphia is not the team they should be; there is no way they should come down to a last second field goal against Oakland, who blows monkeys.

Dante Culpepper has turned the ball over 10 times in 3 games and has been sacked 12 times.  They really miss Matt Birk and Nate Burleson.

Ryan Longwell has made 3 field goals in 3 games. ...   Favre should just quit now before he goes out on an 0-16 team to end his career.

I have 2 rushing tds and 3 receiving tds from my starters.  Yikes. 

Dante had Nate in weeks 1 & 2 and it didn't help. I have Nate in all three of my leagues. Sucks to be me.

Ahh didn't know that.  I was in Europe.  Nate sure seemed like a steal of a pick for a number #1 receiver of a top quarterback when he was drafted...

Fuck you Peyton Manning, fuck you and your 22nd ranked QB points in the league this week. Trent Dilfer can put up more than you did, you cockgobbling asshole. You can't throw touchdowns against the CLEVELAND DEFENSE, who are just two shades away from San Fransisco as holding the place for dead last in the league.

Please die.

I have Cadillac and Hines Ward too, that has to be one of the highest scores I've ever had in h2h football. About time I won a game in that league.

In this league? I'm fucking doomed. I drafted a real shit team.

That Bucs/Packers game was one of the worst reffed games I've seen in a while. That was fucking terrible for both teams.

I really thought I had a decent team. Collins was my only good pick.

Ok I had the benefit of playing an opponent who scored the lowest points this week so leaving all of Ronnie Browns points on the bench didn't hurt me.   Ahman Green is really the only starter who has disappointed me (although my QB position could really hurt me later) hell I may just go with Reuben Droughns from now on if this keeps up  :p

I lost in the morlock league by 2 friggin points though.  Still not bad since I had both my WR starters on a bye week and my 3rd (Nate) didn't play.  Luckily I was able to drop someone to pick up Terry Glenn before kick off who almost saved my week on his own, another catch probably would have done it for me... ah well, at least I got my bye week pain over with early. 

Somebody...ANYBODY trade me a RB that is actually, you know, starting? Pretty much any of my players are on the trading block if I can get a RB.

Le sigh.  I might win one this year.  I just might. 

Kind of disappointing to go from contending two years in a row to the basement. ALONE. 

Ohh, and before I forget, "FUCK YOU, DANTE".

Well I finally had a good day. Manning played like Peyton can, thank god. Also, Warrick Dunn and Lamont Jordan having 100+ yard days didn't hurt.

Plus, if Joe Horn actually played a down, it could have been even better. Alas.

When I was watching sportscenter and noticed my oppenent had 2 of the top 5 performers of the day I knew this was gonna be ugly.  Plexico and Tomlinson destroyed me.... A. Green would have to have the game of his career tonight to get me a win.

Neil Rackers gets 23 fucking points. A GODDAMN KICKER FOR FUCK'S SAKE SCORED MORE THAN TOM BRADY! What's the world coming to? Cats and dogs sleeping together!

Brett Favre having 4 TD's and still fucking losing makes me a stabby sad panda. Green Bay really has turned into a complete cesspool of stupid these days. Ahmad Carroll has got to be the worst 2nd year CB I've ever fucking seen. It's like he has absolutely no idea how the fuck to cover a pass, period. Just clueless.

I'm having to rely on Arizona's fucking defense this next week, as I think they have a better chance of stopping Carolina's O than Jacksonville has of stopping Cinncy.

I took Rackers for a reason.

Arizona can't score TDs reliably, so their kicker has to be their main offense. Also, he can make the 50+ yard kick.

Especially in Mexico at 8,000 feet above sea level.

He made 2 50+ yarders against the Seahawks the week before, and Qwest Field is about 20 feet above sea level (generously). The man can kick. I have Jeff Reed in another league and picked up Rackers this past week to cover his bye. Good call!

I think Rackers is the new Elam.

Whew. Snuck by the Kilt Wavers in a high scoring affair.

Motherfucking Jeremy Stevens. What the fuck? I always fuck up the TE position.

How bad did the Saints look yesterday? REALLY BAD. Green Bay isn't that good.

Ol' Therapist had himself a game! He was so wide open on his touchdown it was ridiculous. He was laughing as he crossed the goalline because there was no one within 10 yards of him. I figured he would be a good bet this week with the top two receivers out- Hasselbeck had the throw to somebody!

Oh, and the Aints were horrible. Aaron Brooks is a travesty. Also, note to self- don't piss off Brett Favre. He can still bring it when he wants to.

I won a game! I mean.. I win if the world doesn't fall apart.  Finally, I'll have some company in the basement.

Everyone not named Marvin Harrison had a decent game.  Steven Jackson could have these games every fucking week if Martz wasn't such a shithead and if STL's recievers weren't so goddamn good.  Everytime he touched the ball, something good happened.  Bledsoe's performances are making me consider playing him or Culpepper based soley on the matchups.  That makes me physically ill just typing it.

BTW, do people want weekly wrap-ups?  It takes a decent amount of time and the tone this time will be decidedly bitter but if people enjoy reading it, I can give it a shot.

Edit: fuck, I just looked and Bledsoe's leading the entire league in points (Tomlinson will probably overtake).  HE'S BEEN ON MY BENCH SINCE DAY 1.  /targetself, /headshot

Weekly wrapups are fun, and lead to lots of shittalking and other fun insulting behavior.

You cannot kill yourself over that. He came out of fucking nowhere. He just increased his 5 week total by almost 40% in one week.

Have Bledsoe in the morlock league and he's been a damn fine pickup there.  Have Terry Glenn on that team too, yeah their combined points destroyed my opponent. 

In this league indi D has been my biggest surprise, Graham actually got some luvin this week so was nice to see the TE putting some points up for once... I'm sure it won't last though. 

Oh yeah in other news, Steven Jackson's Fantasy Stock increases 1000 percent (http://nfl.com/teams/story/STL/8949954).

They keep letting Bledsoe connect on the long bombs to Terry Glenn. Having a running game AND a O line helps him.

And Brett Fav-rah could still get a team to the Super Bowl, provided that team wasn't full of scrubs and had a defense. Which the Pack doesn't have and won't until Sherman is gone.

Apparently, Martz is out for a few weeks due to the heart thing, so it looks like Steven Jackson may actually get more touches.

I may win two games this year!  :rock_hard:

I figured that this last week would have been the one where my team fell apart, but my receivers bailed me out.  With Cadillac's wheels falling off and now Thomas Jones, who has been carrying my team on his back, having a knee sprain that will keep him out at least this week, the inevitable collapse seems around the corner.  Considering how teams are playing the Bears, letting TJ run free, completely disregarding play action, and daring Orton to throw into double coverage, it's a real downer.  I think the biggest surprise on my team (other than Cadillac's ridiculous start) has to be Dallas Clark as a complete non-factor.

Anyone depending on a TE not Gonzalez or Gates (and maybe whitten to an extent) is setting themselves up for disappointment. 

Gonzalez has been a MAJOR disappointment.

I never send I was depending on him, but I did expect him to have a good season.

So far he's about as low as you can go and still actually be filling the TE position and starting.

Due to the possibility of Big Ben being out, I had to grab another QB.

Also, my diamond Rackers is on bye. Not going to be a good week for me.

The only real positive thing I've got going is that LT has so far proven worthy of the #1 pick.

Of course now I jinxed that.

Season-ending injury in 3... 2... 1...

Yep. My buddy John (who has already killed off half his roster) has LT, which means his violently detached leg should go pinwheeling into the 3rd row any Sunday now.

McMichael in Miami hasn't been too bad, and if you'd had Heiden against Green Bay, he'd have been mad points as well.

But yeah, TE is a vast sucking hole of goose eggs right now.

Witten has been steady if unspectacular. 

I really hope Reggie Wayne has a better game tonight than Marvin Harrison, and that Edge just runs the fuck all over that shitty Rams D.

But I know I'm probably doomed. DOOMED, I TELL YOU!

You could easily win this one.  Steven Jackson + Marvin Harrison + 13 points v. Edge and Reggie Wayne.  Problem with any WR receiver on the Colts is that any other offensive player other than a lineman can end up with 10 catches for 150 yards and two touchdowns while they get 2 catches for 15 yards.  Edge is money, he's always good for points.

Jackson is just an enigma right now.  He might have a good game if they're committed to giving him 20 touches.

BTW, intriguing trade offer, Way.  Evil but very interesting.

I know how much you love Daunte  :-D I just realized that both of my QBs have the same fucking bye week. I plan to fire my GM.

Mr Hat left a person playing during a bye week and he still friggin destroyed me.  Doesn't help that Jones is hurt, Boldin is on a bye and Moss got hurt and gave me a big goose egg, but I figured at the least the rest of my team coulda made it close  :(

Time to pray for a 38 point game from indi's D. 

p.s.  Damn you Alexander, let Hasslebeck score some TDs too.

This game is turning into a disaster.  Anytime my game's with Haem are determined by a Monday night game, I end up getting creamed.

Le sigh.  I thought I was going to steal the win with that token Peyton to Harrison touchdown.  Then Edge comes back in to fuck things up again.  What a monster game he had. Gah.

Steven didn't get even 20 carries, yet again.  He fumbled at a bad time and it still takes him too long to cut up field, but good shit happens when he's involved.  It's not helping that Faulk looked pretty decent last night although the first guy to breathe on him usually drops him.

Way, you want Drew Bennet instead of Marv?  :wink:

Bulger just stuck a big fork in my team's back.  :|

Well, that injury, and my failure to draft a solid #2 QB.  I'm the Jerry Angelo of fantasy football!

The injury should only be 2 games, but if anyone wants to dangle a solid QB in a trade for one of my other starters, I guess I have to listen.

Daunte beckons you.  I need players that don't suck.

LE WOOT! The Edge was just the fucking man last night. I watched that game on Tivo right up until that 3rd INT for the Rams in the 4th quarter. I knew it was over at that point. I still didn't think I had enough points to beat you but I damn well squeaked by. I fear for next week's matchup, since Brady's on a bye. McNair has been decent backup points, but he's throwing a lot of INT's because he doesn't really have a good deep threat. He should do OK against Arizona, and any picks he throws will be money for me since I have to play the Cardinals D. Lots of ifs, because I don't know if Soukyan is paying attention to the fact that Duckett and Crayton probably won't play and his TE is on a bye week.


I can say without a shadow of a doubt that the Rams offense should be, SHOULD BE, focused on Stephen Jackson. He should be used like Vermeil uses Priest fucking Holmes, or how Vermeil used to use Marshall Faulk. He can catch the ball, he's big enough to pound out yards up the middle even on spread offenses and he's agile enough to do those outside runs and stretch plays. But Mike Martz and his sycophant coaches keep thinking that it's all about the air game. They run just as little as they have to in order to be able to throw deep passes and such, which leaves them completely vulnerable to the asston of INT's they are going to throw unless Joe Montana or Tom Brady are under center. If they gave Jackson 20-25 carries and 5-10 passes a game, they'd be golden. Their defense COULD be good enough, if they didn't have to constantly run their asses off. They score too fast, and their defense isn't opportunisitic enough. It stays on the field too much.

Indy beat them last night because even when they were down 17 nothing, they controlled the pace with the running game. Hell, they went no huddle most of the night, but gave it to Edge so many times, they still ate up the time of possession and kept the Rams from doing too many subs. Instead of ditching the running game like the Rams would have done, they stayed with the game plan and wore that Rams defense down. It was masterful. All it took was a defense that was decent. As soon as the defense started getting turnovers and pushing the Rams offense off the field, it was over.

I'm beginning to believe this is a Colts team that won't have to have home field to get to the Super Bowl, they'll just need their defense to create turnovers. Edge is running better than I've ever seen him, and more physical to boot.

From week 6 to week 7, I managed to swing 90 points. My team is so very unreliable it's ridiculous. I mean one week I'm posting the second lowest score in the league, the next I'm #1 in points?

In essence, if I make the playoffs I'm fucked.

Ohh yah, well on my way to 2 wins barring a fucking miracle. 30 points out of a Jet receiver would make me seriously consider never participating in this shit again.

Speaking of partcipating, is it too much to fucking ask for people to use subs for players on a bye?  To maybe look at their team for a minute during the week?  I'd rather finish dead last in a league where everyone's at least has a pulse than 3rd from last in which the two people below me pretty much quit.

And my trade is already starting to bite me in the ass. Culpepper put up some good numbers (albeit against a bunch of stiffs).  Bledsoe looked like the fucking joke I picked him as versus a pretty terrible defense. Ward hurt himself again and the Steelers primarily just pounded the ball and looked a lot better for doing it. Harrison had the typical "hey, Peyton realized I'm still on the team!" game and well, Lord Byron the Tubby still needs to be evaluated when he actually plays a game for me.    My personnel management this year has been just shee-tay.

For those of you with Steven Jackson, or just any Rams players, Martz is apparently done for the year (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2202457). So they might actually have a decently balanced offense, and might be a force to be reckoned with again. But then, they were playing the Saints. Did anyone see that bullshit call in the Saints game with 2 minutes left? Conwell is on his back and the ball gets stripped. They call it an INT, the guy runs it back for a touchdown, and the Saints can't even challenge the bullshit call of "he was not in possession when it was taken" because they were out of timeouts. That was one of the worst calls I've seen in a long time.

Also, that Giants-Broncos game kicked major fucking ass, unless you were a Broncos fan. Most of the game it looked like Eli was just throwing blindly because of all the blitzes he had to face. I mean, every damn play there were like 5 or 6 players just hauling ass for him. And since I hate the Broncos anyway, watching him beat them on the last play was just beautiful.

Also, Green Bay fucking sucks, and is done for the year. Blow a 17-point lead to the shitty Vikings? WTF? Now, Green is out for the year, Ferguson's down for a month, and there just isn't anymore running back or wide receiver help. Fisher is good, but he can't carry the load alone yet.

The Seahawks game nearly fucking killed me. Seattle NEVER wins those games- they always come close and then get Charlie Brown'ed by their opponent at the last second. If they start winning these, look out. They might make a run this year.

I was on the phone with my brother watching the last kick... we both started screaming and hollering. His 3 year old son says "Calm down, Dad!". LMAO!!!

Jackson numbers:  20 rushes, 97 yds, 2 TDs.  2 catches 19 yards.  Guy gets more than 20 touches a game and good things happen.  He does more when he catches the ball than Marshal does also.  Running upfield works a lot better than dancing around like you're not a 30 year old with bad knees.  Of course, he was really the only offensive option outside of Kevin Curtis, so he HAD to get the ball.

Next week they'll probably carry on the spirt of Martz and give him maybe 15 rushes and every pass play will go to Old Man Faulk.  They'll give up 30+ points too.

There is just no excuse for the Bears to *not* win the North.  I refuse to believe Garcia can save the Lions, and I'll believe the Vikes have their shit straight when they beat a real team.

Managed to eek out a close one.  Thomas Jones' nice little 43 yard scamper with 2:30 left in the Bears-Ravens game won it for me.  For the last 3 or 4 weeks I've been bracing myself for the eventual "first loss".  It's looking more and more like it won't happen until the first week of the playoffs.  There's no way in hell I can count on Kelly Holcomb to save my ass every week.

Yes he does, because he's got the size and strength to just flatten somebody, and the speed to build up some steam. If whoever coaches that team ever realizes what that kid can really do, look out for the Rams. They'll be better than the Vermeil team that won the Super Bowl, no matter who QB's.

And yes, if the Bears don't win the North, something will be wrong. And that's just sad. All Kyle Orton has to do is NOT lose them games. Garcia has the weapons, except Rogers is a druggie and Roy Williams is hurting. But that team continues to have no excuse.

I know it sounds ridiculous, but Orton is becoming the "Master" of the 15/28 for 150 and 1 td game.  Unfortunately, the Cincy game really rattled him, as his deep throws are off by about 5-10 yards - if there is something else on those plays, like receivers not getting off a jam at the line of scrimmage, you can't see it on the telecast.  He was very accurate in the preseason on deep throws, where the level of competition is irrelevant.  If he can hit just one of those a game, it will help immensely.  There has already been a huge improvement week to week, as Turner has increased the play book, getting the TE involved, getting their speed receivers running skiiny posts and quick slants that Orton can hit on a three step drop, etc.  There were several times yesterday where they were a shoestring tackle away from finally getting a big play out of their passing game.  That said, I think the entire offense has produced a YAC of under a 100 yards this year.  Seems like guys can't take 2 steps before being out of bounds or getting hammered after jumping to catch a high throw.

Hasn't helped Orton much that Moose has been a bust this year? What's up with him (no Bears games have been on TV)? From what I've read it really hasn't been the playcalling or QB situation.

Last year, you could hardly go a week without yelling, "JIIIIIIIIIIIIIHAD".

Moose hasn't been a bust, actually.  He's been really good for the most part.  Funny thing - each of the last three games, they've gone deep on their first offensive snap, Moose has been wide open, and Orton has overthrown him.

Their #2 WR is a rookie, Mark Bradley, all kinds of talent and is starting to catch on.  He was wide open deep early in the game yesterday and Orton overthrew him - he's starting because he was huge in the preseason, with Orton hitting him deep every game, it's Orton's deep ball that has been off target.  They are finally incorporating TE reads into the progressions, Clark is becoming a weapon.  Basically, when those two things start bringing some attention from safeties, Moose might get some single coverage, but for now he has been invaluable as a hot read on blitzes.  That said, he's good for about 2 drops a game, which suuuuucks.

I won my game this week because someone couldn't spend 15 minutes setting their roster. Yeah, the win is nice, but what a shitty way to win. Drives me even more nuts considering how many people are in the league and how diluted the rosters are because of it. Get rid of a couple people who NOTORIOUSLY don't set their rosters and we all have slightly better teams.

You lucky SOB.  I came within 1 point of knocking out the only unbeaten team, and why didn't I win.  Cause I had 3 starters listed as doubtful or worse and had to go with shitty backups and my WRs manage a craptacular 3.80 between them.  And Randy Moss played after all but of course that decision came after the early games so I had no way to adjust my roster.... DAMNIT he finallly scored some points too.  I lost because I took the time to manage my team this week :)  Had I just forgotten and left Moss in I coulda won.... sometimes I hate fantasy football.


Damn just noticed that my indi defense was my highest scorer again this week.... holy hell. 

Kyle Orton is no Jake Delhomme.

Now whoda ever thunk they'd hear that statement ever in their life?

Also, I'm the 2nd highest scoring team in our league, and yet I'm 6th at 3-4. Way's Piss Test Skippers are 2nd at 6-1 and he hates head to head, and I love it. How's that for a fuck you very much?

Wow Denver is really trying to give the game away in this 2nd half. 

Priest Holmes gets a 2nd half concussion.
Thomas Jones gets a nice set of bruised ribs in the 4th quarter.
I lose  :|

'Twas a beautiful day to have Delhomme and Smith running roughshod together. Good times.

I have no idea how the fuck I pulled off the win in this league (and the Morlocks league as well). It was a squeaker of a win, but it keeps me in playoff contention.

I revel in each one of Philly's losses now. I used to like McNabb, but my hatred of TO has eclipsed it. The Giants? They fucking tattooed the Skins. It was an ugly game for Skins fans, not so much for Giants/Eli fans. And I am an Eli fan. The Patriots/Bills game was probably the best game of the day, at least of the ones I saw. Competitive to the end, and Eric Moulds gave me MAD POINTS. Fucking Fred Taylor. The one day I put him on the bench figuring his labia will be sore, he racks up 165 yards. Fucker.

I will trade Rothlisberger or McNair for a decent Defense. Someone better than the Jags. Also, Joe Vitt proved what I said about Stephen Jackson yesterday.

Take a look at my last transaction in the EA league. Good timing, no?

BTW the EA site sucks utter ass. We paid for it and we still can't get live updates? WTF?

I  :heart: Steven Jackson.  He's just been a beast the last few weeks.  Give him more touches and he just keeps racking up more yards.  It's a testament to how bad Martz's game strategy can be when Jamie Martin wins games without Holt or Bruce in the lineup by just handing the ball over to this guy and actually managing the game instead of trying to give it away.

I watched that Bears game and I saw what you were talking about.  Orton just completely missed open receivers time after time.  Plus, he's got that creepy paper thin mustache thing going.  He looks like a pervert.  Still, he didn't lose the game and that's all Lovie really has confidence in him doing (a minute left in regulation.. 3 runs and out!).

Tyrone Calico is a worthless man-slug. 

Hopefully, Ward + Reed + Pit D + 6 points > Jamal Lewis.   Two years ago I would have still be afraid of losing.  Thank God for coke deals gone wrong!

I'm saving up my hatred for a front page review. But yes, you are correct. It blows monkey ass.

Holy shit - they let him throw a 22 yard skinny post with 2 minutes left, and with the first down in hand and the ability to run out the clock, they sat on it, even through they had two time outs left and were close enough to field goal range.

There seems to be an issue with Orton-to-Moose brewing, also.  Moose is starting to look really pissed off when Orton misses him when he's wide open, and his usual 2 drops-per-game seemed, to me, like he was dogging it a little.  However, what I mentioned above, about Orton just needing to get his timing down on quick slants and skinny posts, happened yesterday.  He's getting there.

Big Ben is not a great fantasy player. They run the ball way too much. Why do you think I cut him?

Ohh, and I just wanted to say that I'm happy Daunte waited until I traded him before getting his knee destroyed. At least he did something right this season.

He was a lot better than Jeff Garcia, and he throws touchdowns with few INT's. He's not marquee, sure, but if you need a bye week back up or Daunte's kneecap just rolled past the bench trailing bloody tendons, he's money.

I traded for Daunte to cover a bye week. As long as Delhomme stays upright, I am solid.

I see you realized your folly of leaving a RB on a bye in the lineup, and have tried to shoehorn in Baltimore's backup in hopes of getting 2 points.

Man, this is a tight match. If I wasn't retarded and actually planned for Peyton's bye week, i'd be in good shape.

Being in Austin caused me to completely forget about my team until it was nearly too late.

Doesn't matter, TD Taylor, a winner is you.

Really? I am not even watching the game.

I got demolished in both leagues this week.  I can't beleive David Carr didn't lead my team to victory over Murdoc.  What is even worse is Murdoc picked up M Barber for this weeks game to beat me with a cowboys player.

That hurts double since it looks like my hurt J. Jones may not have a job to come back to after that 2 (almost 3) touchdown performance. 

P.S.  Fuck Tatum Bell in garbage time.   

P.S.S.  Wow I can concievable finish this year with both my starting running backs this year riding the pine... and my 3rd is Ronnie Brown who is going to get fewer and fewer carries as Ricky gets better... anyone wanna trade :p

PWND!

Twice in two weeks in two different leagues wasn't it? RAR

Gotta love H2H where my team is 13th out of 14 teams for scoring, yet I'm riding a 6-2 record and in 3rd place (counting this week). My luck HAS to run out sooner or later...

My 5th highest scoring team with a 3-5 record hates you

I hope that luck runs out first week of the playoffs :p

Edit:  Hey if Heath Miller gets about 3 more TDs I can make a game of it still :p

Ack. That is why I hate H2H leagues. At least this year my spot in the standings actually reflects my team's point output for the year. I am usually in the opposite of Murdoc- top 3 or 4 in scoring, but mired below .500 in the standings.

I edited the rosters of Pig Skin Sluts and Pottsville Maroons to replace their bye week players with active players off their bench.

 :cthulu: :cthulu: :cthulu: :cthulu:

Lost by .65 points. With 3 major players on a bye and LT going for 40 fucking points against me.  Hines Ward with one catch because Charlie Batch makes Kyle Orton look like Peyton.   This is just heartbreaking, especially in a week where I scored enough points to beat just about anyone else except monkey boy. Gah, one catch would have done it. 

And can people stop deifying Vick for having a 228 yard, 1 touchdown game? I mean, really, those are numbers you get from such superstars like Brooks Bollinger or Phil Simm's kid.   

Dick Vermeil, you may cry like a bitch at every press conference, but you've got brass balls.

Good Christ, my team coughed up a hairball this week. Fucking Domanick Davis. I love that they don't say he isn't gonna play until about 4 nanoseconds before kickoff. HATE.

Wow, what a shithole my team has become.  Decimated by injuries, horrid bye-week timing, and then TO goes and sticks the final fork in.

That said, if tonights game is a shoot out, Indy scores a lot and doesn't turn it over, and Branch gets in the end zone, I can actually win since Murdoc's team decided to go in the shitter also.  Convenient.

Yeah that sucked. But even so it wouldn't have saved you this week. Harrison is catching TD's from Peyton, it would have just been a wash tonight.

I MIGHT pull this one out. Thank you, Fred Motherfucking Taylor for spraining your vagina... AGAIN. Why did I sub you for Stephen Davis again? Oh right, because you were playing the worst defense in the league, and Davis was playing the best. Motherfucker. Two TD's just sitting on the bench.

Jermaine Wiggins got me 1 point. That's TE's for you.

God, Green Bay fucking sucks. I weep. Watching their games is just painful, and not just for the fans. It seems to be painful for the players as they keep losing guys to injuries. They are now down to a guy named FUCKING GADO for tailback, and trumpeting 62 yards and a TD as a good performance. Favre is doing his best David Carr imitation out there, just trying to stay alive. I almost hope he retires just so he won't end up going to the Hall of Fame in a fucking wheelchair. Also, Ahmad Carroll, you aren't an NFL-level cornerback. Give it up. Put your hands on the ball, not the receiver.

Please Edgerrin James have a killer game. Please Tom Brady have a killer game. Please, Peyton, throw 20 TD's to Reggie Wayne and hand off the ball to Edge the other plays. Uggh.

When I'm depending on the 3rd string GB running back for points (who I didn't find out wasn't playing until I had left the house) you KNOW it's going to be a high scoring game... HA!

Lost by .5 points, indi D almost pulled it out for me with that sack/fumble at the end of the game last night but that one B.S. NE touchdown that should have been challenged screwed me.   That and Randy Moss with his tremendous 1 catch game.... hello longest losing streak in the league. 

Eat my dust, mother bitches! The triumvirate of Brady, Wayne and the Edge put me way the hell over the top! LE WOOT!

That game was great to watch, but only because I'm not only rooting for the Colts this year (since I know Green Bay has zero chance at the playoffs), but because I could actually take pleasure in any success by both Brady and the Colts' offense. I've said it before, I'll say it again. Brady is money.

I love it when a plan comes together.  Can't believe I survived a week with such a homer line-up.

It's gonna be a tough haul the rest of the way, but hopefully Bulger still has something in his arm this week.

I edited the rosters of two people who were sitting with a couple bye players. I did some adding/dropping as well to try and give them a fighting chance.

I'm gonna do my best to keep the sinking ship afloat, it is a long season after all, but losing Owens and Holmes in one week, well, I guess hanging the Championship banner on the wall was a little premature.

Larry Johnson is going to be GOLD from here on out.  LJ + SJ are going to be a monsterous 1-2 punch. Too bad I really don't have a fighting chance in hell to run the table and make the playoffs.  I have a feeling my receivers and statue-man Drew will let me down.

And damn Sauced, you did get fucked.  Well, my two top picks didn't turn out that well for me either.  I just really miss Marv now.  I know what I was thinking when I made my trade, I just didn't count on Charlie Batch having to sling passes and Heath Miller gobling up all of the Pitt red zone tosses.  Ohh well, I make at least one really poor management decision each season.   

Ah ha.  I logged in at about 12:30 to do this myself, only to see it was done.  Wondered what the hell happened.  Thanks.

Goddamnit, what possessed me to play Moose over Ward?  That's right, Charlie Batch's horrid performance the game before.  Then Kyle Orton and Cody Pickett proceed to have a "who's the shittier QB running the shittier offense" competition (I'm sure that wind didn't help much, jeez).

Bless you Samkon Gado, whoever you are.

That wind in Chicago was INSANE. I saw that field goal that just flew at a 90 degree angle away from the goal posts. I've seen that shit in Wrigley games, but never a football game.

My boys had a good day. Brady, James, Fitzgerald were all money. Big money was Jacksonville's D, which not only kept the Ravens to 3 points (not hard) but pulled down 3 INT's.

Green Bay beat a Falcons' team that looked like it didn't know how to play football. Vick was obviously trying to pass more instead of just running his ass off, and he looked lost. Also, Ahmad Carroll is still a fucking tool. He had a 40-yard pass interference penalty because he played the man not the ball. He didn't even know where the ball was, he just grabs the guy by the shoulder pads and pulls. Retard. Sherman's offensive scheme is about the most boring I've ever seen out of him. Gado is a decent running back, but doesn't have Green or Davenport's flair, and the wideouts are mostly forgettable.

Indy just looked like they were playing street ball against 4th graders against Houston.

But the worst game was the Giants/Vikings. Eli didn't look great, but holy shit his guys were dropping more passes than Seattle. The Vikings scored no points on offense until the winning field goal in the fourth quarter. Their offense was just awful. But the special teams were the bomb. The Giants special teams were just shit. Hell, the Vikes returned a punt for a touchdown and the Giants' punter had a decent opportunity to make the tackle. He just walks on by like he was going to the sidelines and just suddenly realized he had a man near him to tackle. The guy ran past him like he was a pedestrian.

As if things couldn't get worse, the Bears actually have to stop playing JV teams over the next month.  Watching them claw their way from 6-3 to a 9-7 finish is going to be SO much fun, almost as much fun as watching my crappy fantasy team get stomped by Gus Frerotte.  Maybe Glenn will catch 3 TDs tonight?

That game almost turned me off football forever. Extreme suckitude at levels beyond any I have ever seen.

QB and TE of Dallas v. my Dallas defense tonight. I have the ~30 point edge right now. I honestly don't know if I should be worried or not, but I think I am.

If it turns into a shoot out and Bledsoe uses Whitten a tad more in the redzone than he has all year, I'm good. I don't think I've ever won with a Monday night game when there's a realistic chance at me losing. 

I should lose though, just to punish my stupid ass for not starting Ward.

I'm just tickled Vitt is playing Martz ball again.  I mean, hey, why go with what's been winning you games when you have your 3 "studs" back?  Fuck, just because Bulger's in the game doesn't mean your brain has to automatically start including stupid_trick_play_03 and start using Old Man Faulk whever possible.

I had a pretty good week by the looks of it, minus the two players that combined for 1 point.  Great game from Roy Williams, so glad I picked him up off waivers.  Still managed 3rd in points because of him, (with just monday nights game) but of course I played against the 2nd in points for the week..... weeeeeee!

Tiki and the Carolina D crushed me this week.  Head to head has not been kind to me at all but I still like it better then straight up points.  I'll be watching the playoffs from the sidelines this year.

You must have missed the fake field goal he called in the first half. 4th and 3 from inside the 10. They come out like they are going for it, try to draw the defense offside, and then call a timeout when the Hawks don't budge. Out trots the FG unit, and everyone in the stadium is at least aware of the possibility of a fake. Looker (the holder) stands up and laterals the ball to Wilkens, who is promptly thrown for a 3 yard loss. The ghost of Mike Martz is alive and well in the Rams' playbook.

That's what I was referring to.  Awesome way to kill any momentum and completely demoralize your team at the same time.  Perfect Martzball.  Like not trusting your starting quarterback in the closing seconds of a game.  Or running double reverse when the guy doing the pitch hasn't practiced it at all...

Ah, ok- I misread ya- I thought you were praising him for going against all Martz-isms. Vitt does a better job of running the ball more often, but Jackson is still hideously underused. I was terrified every time he got the ball and got into the secondary- he was running over safeties and corners all day. Why he didn't get 35 carries is beyond me.

He didn't get 35 carries because the Rams are THE GREATETESTEST SHOW ON TURFZES! Jackson can plant DB's when he gets past the 2nd level, especially later in the game. He got 17 carries and 5 receptions against the Hawks. Not enough by about 10 touches.

Of course, what can you expect out of a team that openly preaches the dictum that offensive turnovers don't matter?

I may have been soundly beaten but damn that Cowboys game was incredible.  These last minute cowboys games are gonna give me an aneurysm or heart attack for sure though.     :heart: Roy Williams

I love the Cowboys Defense. They are my personal heroes weekly.

That was quite a finish.  Hey, at least now my sitting Hines wouldn't have made a difference in the overall outcome. 

Is it just me or has Bledsoe looked absolutely horrible anytime someone gets a decent rush on him? The guy just cannot avoid a rush and hangs onto the ball like it's the goddamned One Ring.

Yesterday was a goldmine for me in points. Well, except for Stephen Davis' piss poor performance against the Bears. I guess the Bears D really IS that good. I'm sweating tonight's game. If Minny's shitty D can hold Gado to no TD's and Green Bay D disappears as per their normal routine, AND Wiggins has a good night, I can hold onto the win. If not, I'm in trouble.

Did anyone watch the Colts/Bengals game? I knew that Cincy wasn't quite on Indy's level (that top tier of teams) but they were sure damn close. Both offenses were just firing on all cylinders and it was a great thing to watch. Cincy's O line just made Dwight Freeney disappear. Chris Perry and Chris Henry were kicking ass right along with Chad Johnson. But the Colts, holy fuck that team just looks so at ease, like they are playing street ball. It's like watching the Harlem Globetrotters demolish a team (both the cartoon and the real life version).

Chad Johnson. I just have to say I like Chad Johnson. He's got all the bluster and swagger and bravado of a TO or a Keyshawn or Randy Moss, but he's not an asshole about it. I don't think I ever see him put somebody down with his shit, he just has fun with the whole thing. I'd rather have 6 of him on a team than 1 of TO.

Drew Brees apparently owned Buffalo yesterday. The Bills ain't making the playoffs. Also, Tom Brady is MONEY.

When the game started, the local CBS affiliate was showing it (the Seahawks were on opposite it on the local Fox affiliate). When I switched back to check in during a Seahawks commercial break, I was horrified to see that they had switched to SD v Buffalo. And stuck with the WHOLE FUCKING GAME, even when it was 48 to fucking 10. <Insert long list of profanities in enormous font here>

The Chargers/Bills game must have been PAINFUL to watch for all but the diehard Chargers' fans. That was an old-fashioned ass-whooping.

That Colts/Bengals game taught me one thing.  No matter how smart your quarterback is, sometimes it's a really bad thing to have him calling the plays.  There's no excuse for having a 20 second drive when you're up by two scores with 4 minutes to play.  That offense is just fucking scary though.  They seem to be able to score at will, and I'm not sure anyone's going to be able to stop them even in the playoffs (we've said this before, tee hee hee).  As a small aside, Edge.. why must you look and sound like an enlarged Flavor Flav?

Larry Johnson v. the worst running defense in the league was a sight to behold. A north/south runner is the ideal back in that situation. I think even if Priest comes back next year, he's going to end up being the leagues premier 3rd down back.  Larry's the guy you want having the bulk of the carries from now on. 

He really saved my bacon considering what a wretched game Steven Jackson had.  The guy had no chance, the Arizona defense was in the backfield every time he got the ball.  Only Barry Sanders could have made something positive out of that situation.  Hard to do anything when you're getting hit 2 steps after getting the ball. 

Man, I left about a hojillion points on the bench this week.  Lord Byron had a monster game.  Picking a wide receiver and QB from now on is going to be a pure crap shoot.  I'm not sure what situation is worse, for QBs I've got one that's starting to look like what everyone thought he was coming into this season, and one's in a traditionally terrible offense but has started to come on.  For my receivers... ugh.. one's a rookie, two have terrible QBs in ground based offenses throwing to them, one has a bad thumb and fading QB, one's a third option and possession WR, and the best of the bunch is waiting for his signal caller to come back from a gimpy knee.  Not a fun job picking someone to go with.

Yeah. In one of my other leagues, I have Edge, Stephen Jackson, and LJ. For reasons beyond my ken, I decided to sit LJ and play Stephen Jackson (I think because Arizona had no luck stopping Alexander the week before). "You have chosen poorly."

Crap.. Robinson was out for this week.  I could have dumped Evans in there and had 8 points and another 'win.' 

Oh wait.. no I couldn't, he wasn't announced as not playing until Monday. sonofabitch.

I have a very real feeling Haemish is going to kick my ass this week. I just don't feel good about my lineup at all.

Crumpler finally contributes. Too late to help me in the standings, of course. Watch that fucker get 2 TDs a game through week 15.

Lamont Jordan is a fantasy God. We are all just living in his world.

Heathen! All must bow down before the almighty LaDainian Tomlinson.

I am going down hard for the 2nd week in a row. My magical Delhomme to Smith combo is killing me now.

With some guesswork based on Monday night's game, let's try and map out the playoff picture here.   A lot of games are just out of reach.

*1.    P-town Agoraphobes    9-3-0     (a tad iffy)
2.    Attack Monkies    8-4-0    (in the bag)
3.    Piss Test Skippers    8-4-0    (Marv needs 30)
4.    The Groin Pulls    7-5-0
5.    Murg's First Losers    7-5-0
6.    Killer Koalas    7-5-0
-------- Playoff line
7.    I Need An Adult    7-5-0    
8.    The Murdoc Bandwagon    7-5-0    
9.    Kilt Wavers    6-6-0    
10.    The Scientologists    5-7-0    
11.    Drunks On Grass    4-8-0    
12.    Neverland Bandstand    4-8-0    
13.    Pottsville Maroons    3-9-0
14.    Pig Skin Sluts    2-10-0    (this team is horrible)

This gets a little complicated. 4 through 6 are very close in points. The 7 and 8 teams are rather low scoring and thus might need some help getting in.  Haem needs to pull of a win and hope some of the 5 teams with 7-5 records lose; he's got a decent point score total to get in on that.  Only Neverland and the Koalas play each other so only one 8-5 is garunteed out of that bunch.  If either the Monkies or Piss Test Skippers lose, then you have two 8-5 teams as a result of each matchup.  There's so many different scenarios to play out here, it's just dizzying to plot it all out.  Attack Monkies still have a chance at going in as the #1 playoff seed or  3 or even lower depending on outcomes.

Either way (depending on a really Monday night screw job), 10th place is all mine, bitches.  I'm amazed my team was able to offset my QB breaking his ankle after throwing 2 passes.  LJ and SJ are just BEASTS. And I finally made a decent managerial move that paid off, go go Vikings D.

I felt the same way. Then I watched Tom Brady absolutely shit the fucking bed for 4 quarters. I feel bad for him. His defense has broken every bone a player can break, his running back reads like the Green Bay backfield and yet he still manages like 11 points for me despite 4 INTs. That game was pure ugly. If I'd had Larry Fucking Johnson, I'd have been all over your ass.

Fuck you, John Fox. Thanks for giving most of Stephen Davis's carries to DeShaun Foster, you pigfucker. Fuck you, Nick Kaeding for having a Jay Feely day kicking the ball.

I think I need something like 70 points out of Edgerrin James and Reggie Wayne tonight, which I won't get. And even if I did, having Peyton Manning as your QB will assure that whatever Wayne gets, you gets. Blearg!

Next week is a must win game for me. Luckily, I play the worst team in the league.

EDIT: BTW, I will likely lead the league in points scored, yet will barely be above .500. WTF?

Well, fuck. He did it again.

Welcome to my last 5 seasons of head to head fantasy football. Are you starting understand why I hate it?  :-D

Oh yeah, I know why you hate it. Despite the fact that I might miss the playoffs with the highest score, I still like head to head in football. I like the matchups.

Heh, first year we did this I was #2 in points and missed the playoffs.  There's always someone that gets dicked by constantly scoring huge but always ending up playing someone who has an even bigger game that week.  Or you can start off really bad and just end up destroying people at the end, but if there's a fluke week-to-week winner like Arc was first year, you're just screwed.

If I got it figured right, I'm moving from 7th up to 4th place from this weekend. Nice at such a critical moment for the playoffs. Actually feeling pretty good about my chances to stay in the top 6 next week.

Fucking vikings   :oops:

I may overtake Haem in points, but considering our W-L, I understand his frustration. Then again, are points everything? Does one week make up for 5 weeks of crap? IMO, no it doesn't. Not in the NFL, and not in Fantasy.

Exactly. I like trying to figure out what would be a favorable matchup for a QB, etc. Points are fine, I just like h2h for football.

You're killing me, Drew Blesoe. You're fucking killing me.  I think I was figuring that everytime I leave Drew Bledsoe on the bench, he explodes. I should have remembered that when I start him, he tends to do nothing.  Yes, Drew Bledsoe's fate rests in my hands.

Kurt Warner v. San Fran.  Yep, this'll be about a 30 point difference.  :sad_panda:

I don't think I could have picked a worst week to go in the tank. It looks like I'll be watching the playoffs from the side. Oh well, that's H2H for ya.

Yep, best I can hope for is Jeremy Stevens has a 35 point game tonight for Way's team, because otherwise, I'll miss the big boy playoffs by one spot. ONE SPOT. Otherwise, I'm the top seed of the losers.

If it hadn't been for Tom Brady's laying of the stinkegg last week, I'd likely have been in the playoffs. Oh, and that big ass losing streak I had earlier in the year.  /sadf

Did anyone watch the Bucs/Saints game? God, that was the visual equivalent of Valium. One of the ugliest, most boring games EVER.

Yep, Packers still suck ass. They lose even after limiting Kyle Orton to like 67 passing yards. Brett Favre should retire after this year unless he gets a committment from management to either 1) sign some good wideouts or 2) find a fucking defense. They need to start playing Aaron Rodgers, because this season is fucking done, yet they are still playing like they have a shot at the playoffs. They just don't have the talent to compete.

The Colts? They still look like streetballers against third-graders. It just looks effortless, like the way Jordan used to put up 45 points in a game without breaking a sweat. The only team I've seen give them ANY challenge all year (and I've seen like 5 or 6 of their games) is Jacksonville early in the season. Next week against the Jags probably won't even be close without Leftwich and the way the Jags D is playing. I could see Seattle giving them some trouble, but even then, I don't see them getting beat the rest of the regular season unless there are injuries or they just don't play a lot of starters because there's no reason to risk them.

San Diego looked good against Oakland. Oakland just looked REALLY BAD on defense, and not so much better on offense. They didn't run Lamont Jordan enough. KC should not have beat Denver like that, but Plummer tried to win the game via shootout. You don't want him to do that. You REALLY don't want him to do that. Pound the ball with Anderson/Bell/Dayne and throw only when you need to. He's called Jake the Snake because he bites his own teamates as much as his opponents.

I prefer calling him Jake the Fake or Jake the Date Rapist.

I couldn't stand up against the odd performances of Ricky Williams, Chris Chambers, and the NY Giants Defense...

Seriously, it was just a terrible week for me to put up less than 100.

I'll never forget the '97 Rose Bowl with ASU vs Ohio St. What a game. It was fun watching Plummer play at ASU at least.

Best I can do is play spoiler to the Killer Koalas and maybe keep them out of the playoffs.

*ahem*  You must have missed the game in Cincy.

WHO DEY?!

Ok I'm done, just so happy this Monday...   :-D

Nope, saw that game and loved it. But really, they weren't ever in much danger of being beaten. Yeah, Cincy put 35 up on them, but I don't think they ever led. And almost as soon as Cincy scored one, Indy got one back, and they did it without looking like they were breaking a sweat.

Dont forget two very questionable pass interference calls, along with two no-calls in the Colts Favor with 3/4 being on 3rd down plays.

Things that killed us:
-Edge ate us up in the 2nd half, the TE's torched us in the first.
-9 penalties for 85 yards (including 3 PI's two of which I think were 50/50 and one that really pissed me off)
-Not winning the turnover battle, something you have to do to stop the Colts.

The Colts won the game, and they made the plays but they definately did not make us look like 3rd graders.

No, but it was clear who the better team was that day.

The Bengals are where the Colts were two years ago. For a team that's been where they've been for the last decade, that's a huge feat. They looked even better against the Steelers. The Bengals are for real.

But the Colts are just that much more polished than anyone else they've played. They remind me very much of the good Montana 49ers teams or the Brady-led Pats of the unbeaten streak. If they maintain that consistency, they are unbeatable. Edge has been the real key to that team this year, not Peyton. Their ability to give it to Edge 6 and 7 times in a row, and keep moving the chains while doing it has let them chew up the clock (which they didn't do last year), and has reopened the passing lanes they didn't have early in the season when everyone started playing max cover on Manning. In the 3rd quarter it's Edge Edge Edge, then play action BOOM, 7 points. The scariest part is that even when teams have KNOWN what they are going to do, they can't stop it.

Give the Bengals another year or two, get Palmer and Rudi Johnson some playoff experience, they'll be back in the Super Bowl, no question.

Philly = PWNED.

Game started off good for Haemish- they threw like 5 passes to Stevens in the first drive. Then they suddenly had no need for offense any more.

I am starting to believe. This is usually when someone yanks the football away and I land straight on my back again, but until then, I am gonna enjoy the ride.

I agree with you Haem, Edge is key but Payton is something we have never seen before.  I'm a superbowl title away from calling him the greatest quarterback of all time on some days.

I dont want to, I despise the Mannings, I hate his brother, I hate dome teams and I hope that the Colts get crushT in the playoffs.  But what he does at the line, how he effortlessly manages the game and slices through defenses using what most of the time looks like less then 10 unique plays.  He is the Sun Tzu of football, and truly amazing to watch.  But New England figured them out (and had help from the elements) others will too.  Jacksonville is close on scheme but not talent.  It will really suck though if the Colts go to XL from the AFC and face anyone other then the bears, bucs or panthers because any lesser defense will get torched.

lol@ teh fantasy nerds.

/exit

You're an Astros fan. Nuff said.  :-P

I really think Seattle has a chance to knock Indy off. The Hawks will be playing at home, they have a good running attack, a decent passing attack and a fast, opportunisitic D. I don't believe that San Diego will have a chance against Indy, even though they are a good team. Something about the Chargers, they have last year's Seahawks' luck. Jacksonville has lost too much to injury (Darius, Leftwich and Taylor) to really make a dent in the Colts, though stranger things have happened on the road.

What's going to be interesting after the season is how the Colts deal with Edge's free agency. If they franchise him again, I really think he might hold out. If they win the Super Bowl, he's going to want huge bucks. Equally interesting will be the Drew Brees/Phillip Rivers situation. I mean, Brees is good RIGHT NOW. Rivers may be good, or he may be a first round bust. Do they take the chance on the rookie they traded so much for, or trade him for something else? Either way, someone is going to get a good QB. I think Rivers could probably do it, based simply on the fact that Gates and Tomlinson would make whoever plays back there that much better.

I look forward to watching Denver reach the playoffs only to lose in their first game as Jake the Fake throws 4 INTs to some wild card team. Probably Pittsburgh or Jacksonville. Bonus points if it's the banged up, scrub-ridden Patriots.

The Attack Monkies will spend the bye week drinking beer and grooming each other for grubs.

Well Brunnell gave me negative points this week and the dream is over. Congrats to the winners.

He got a look at your avatar.

So even though I'm eliminated from the Bat Country league, I managed to squeak into the playoffs in the Morlocks league and am leading the EA league by a good half mile.

Indy was effortless once again yesterday. Somehow, Jacksonville managed to put some points up after they switched the coverage to the more interesting Browns/Bengals game. Is it just me, or is Fred Taylor completely ineffective since he hurt his ankle? I don't think Jacksonville loses much when going from Leftwich to Gerrard, but not having Taylor at his best is going to kill them in the playoffs.

Cincy looked bad. Real bad. Except for Rudi Johnson, who looked tough.

Eli Manning continues to airmail some balls. I'm not sure what his problem is, but he threw at least 5 or 6 balls sky high over his receivers, and some of them got picked. Jay Feely remembered that he was supposed to kick through the uprights, though.

Kansas City's safeties look absolutely lost. If they make the playoffs, somebody like Indy or Denver or San Diego will just light them up deep. They either don't know how to or can't cover the deep ball. It's too bad Larry Johnson can't cover receivers. Not that Dallas was too much better, but if I saw Terry Glenn burn KC deep one more time, I'd have shit my pants.

Playoff predictions: AFC: Indy, Denver, New England, Cincy, with Jacksonville and Pittsburgh as the wild cards. I don't see San Diego beating Indy AND Denver (even at home), and I don't see KC beating the Bengals. Pittsburgh should win out, with the only real challenge being Minnesota. Brad Johnson's lucky streak will end on his back.

NFC: Seattle, Chicago, NY Giants, Carolina, with Tampa Bay and Dallas as the wild card. Minnesota might squeak in, but I think they have a harder schedule; all three of their remaining games are against tough ass defenses. Dallas gets St. Louis at home at the end, which will probably be the difference.

I think the Falcons can win out and still take the division or at least the Wild Card. It starts tonight. If they flounder against the Saints, I'll change my tune.

Sorry Paelos, but I am rooting against the Falcons, and will continue to do so until every announcer quits vocally fellating Michael Vick as the greatest QB of all time. The guy is a horrible QB. Fantastic athlete, but just atrocious as a passer.

I was worried about my FF game this week when I saw that Carolina only scored 10 points (I have Delhomme and Smith). Thankfully the check I sent Brunell cleared in time for him to tank it against the fearsome Cardinals.

I understand the Vick hate, and I don't like the knob-slobbing going on by announcers for him at all. Alge Crumpler is the real man on the Falcons week to week making the tough catches and getting the yardage, and Warrick Dunn gets 90+ yards on the ground every game. Do they get the big coverage? Hell no.

The Falcons have been WAY too inconsistent to win out. I mean, the fucking PACKERS beat them in Atlanta, and the Pack can't beat their meat.

Vick has a great arm, some fantastic running ability and the capacity to create some whacked out big plays, but he is a shitty QB and a turnover machine. The fact that both the Panthers and the Bucs have beaten the Falcons in head to head means they'll have to beat out Dallas and Minnesota for the last wild card. Yeah, they'll beat New Orleans. But win out against Chicago, Tampa AND Carolina? No, not happening.

I think Denver might find a way to drop one, Jake Plummer is regressing and the defense is far from fearsome which is too bad I really really like Mike Shanahan.  Also went out of a limb and guessed Gibbs would find a way to win out and the NYG would suck as much as they deserve to.  Oh and for my NFC championship scenario Tampa needs to beat Seattle, but I dont think thats very far fetched.

My playoff picks (going to go out on some limbs)

AFC:
Indy, Cincy, NE, Den, Jax, Pitt

NFC:
Sea, Chi, Car, Wash, TB, Dal/NYG (doesn't matter who, first round losers the both of them)

AFC Championship game:
Cincy @ Indy

NFC Championship game:
TB @ Chicago

*shrug*

That would be a sad, boring game.

Yet, I would be one happy camper.

Gotta say that Bucs have far surpassed what I expected of them this year. They've lost some games they really should of won (Jets, 49ers, yes even the Bears) but I expected a .500 team at best. Gotta love how weak the NFC is... if you're a Bucs fan anyways.

Still recovering from the asswhipping the Steelers laid on the Bears D yesterday.  Hopefully the Steelers will play with that kind of attitude next week against the Vikes.  For currently sitting in the 2nd seed in the NFC, you'd think their ability to even get into the playoffs wouldn't be in question.  It's almost as odd as my fantasy team somehow finishing with the 1st seed intact.

I totally disagree, I love defense.  Hence my feeling that Carolina might loose to the Bears in Chicago and Tampa could easily upset the criminally inept in the playoffs Seahawks.

I like defense too, I just like to see good defenses play against good offenses so that it's a constant struggle and not a 3 and out punt contest. You know, like the last Bears/Bucs game. Both offense are almost criminally inept most days, although Tampa's has seemed to get on track lately while the Bears' has regressed. Musin Muhammed is wasted on Kyle Orton, at least this year.

Both Chicago and Tampa can surprise teams by totally dominating on defense. Were I any of the other NFC teams, I'd pray that neither team makes the playoffs, which of course won't happen.

Does anyone think the Vikings will continue the winning streak by beating the Steelers?

I certainly hope not.  I went into the game Sunday assuming that Pittsburgh home field advantage plus desperation would give them the win.  What scared me is two things:  With flaws in the run defense exposed (although a majority of it was shitty tackling - Why they were trying to wrap Bettis up at the shoulder pads is beyond me), playing Atlanta this week will be a huge test.  I have no idea how they will bounce back from taking such a beating.  Also, the way they got shoved backwards at the line of scrimmage due to the inclement weather makes me wonder if they've really thought about what a home playoff game in Chicago will be like in January.  Hard to fire out of a sprinter's stance from the DE spot when your feet slide back in the mud at every snap.

So, I find out Sunday morning that Domanick Davis isn't going to play. Of course, due to the Saturday games, it is too late for me to do anything about it. Fast forward to this morning, where I see that I will lose my playoff game by .45 points.

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!

That is all for now.

My 5th place pwnage was huge. I wish I would've put up numbers like that last week.

Oh.. I made it into the playoffs.  Fuck, I should have paid attention but starting a new job had me frazzled.  Oh well, 6th is far better than I expected to do.

Welp I was fairly accurate in my predictions.

Things I got wrong:

Giants beat Chiefs, god that game sucked it woudln't have mattered who won neither of these teams will make a championship game.  Fucking sloppy, ugly, game where both teams should have been playing with full intensity.  Tiki Barber pisses me off, Eli Manning makes me sick with his stupid sounding voice and Shockey can die in a fire for all I care...

Chargers got the Colts, good for them, too bad it will still take a xmas miracle to make the playoffs, the Chargers are a scary good team but they have an aversion to winning games.  I mean that fiasco in Miami?  The Eagles game?  Cowboys?  Jesus I feel bad for LT putting his body through all that, putting up those numbers and somehow they find a way to loose.  But hot damn did that kid from Maryland put the fear of god in Payton Manning?  So help me if the AFC Championship is Indy vrs the Pats I'm going to cry, because I could see the Colts loosing again.  Payton Manning = Kurt Warner with much more intelligence.

I thought Denver was going to get upset, more accurately I was hoping Denver might get upset.  It was a silly pick but Cincy needs that #2 seed damn it!

Other then that I was flawless, updates to come next week.

Way, I owe you one, buddy.  If the Bears make it to Seattle for the NFC championship game, I will probably have to make the trip up, and I'll buy you a beer or three.

I never would have believed that was even possible until Rex came in the game last night.  He was a little rusty, but he converted his first 3 3rd down throws and led them to 10 points on his first 2 drives.  And they should start getting their injured starters back next week in Green Bay.

And Hoax, by "flawless", do you still think TB is going to the NFC championship after that whooping on Saturday?  Just one game against a resurgent team, but that was ugly.

Sounds like a plan. Before last night, I wouldn't have given the Bears much of a chance in the playoffs with the way their offense was going. With Grossman, they are definitely a bit more dangerous, which is all they need with that beastly defense. Hopefully the Hawks will seal home field next week- I doubt Indy is going to play many of their stars now that the undefeated season is gone.

I only posted what I got wrong, you dont see the Bucs vrs Pats game there because I saw that comming.  I wasn't expecting quite that level of a smackdown but there was no way the bucs would beat the pats.

a) Brady -despite being a tool- doesn't make many mistakes, and Dillon doesn't fumble the ball often.
b) It never gets cold in Florida (at least to my knowledge, I try to stay away from America's Wang)
c) Chris Simms, as Steve Young pointed out, lacks mental toughness.

The thing is, the Bucs dont have the play that kind of defense in the NFC untill they face the Bears or Redskins.  Carolina's defense is good, but I believe that Cadillac could go off on them and I think I even said that I found that to be a far-fetched pick.  Let me say, I expect one of those NFC South teams in the Championship game, depending on who is ready to play come playoff time.

I watched the Indy game. I was astounded. This is about the 7th or 8th Indy game I've seen this year, and the only time I've seen them play as badly as they did in the 1st half and the 4th quarter was in the first half of the Rams game. The Chargers just plain outplayed them. The Colts O Line was getting WORKED. I think that's what really made the pressure they tried to put on Manning work... the Chargers D line and linebackers were just so fucking fast. I don't think most of the Colts' O Line had seen D that fast all year. They totally shut down the Edge, which is when I started to worry. Indy abandoned the run way too early, and just plain looked sloppy. They looked mortal. It wasn't until the 3rd quarter that they got the swagger back, and they gave it up again in the 4th.

Meanwhile, the Skins just flap cockslapped the Cowboys. That game was just ugly (unless you hate the 'Boys like I do). IF Dallas makes the playoffs, I expect another first round exit.

Carolina beating New Orleans was a boring game that I started to fall asleep in. The Giants/Chiefs game was fun to watch. The Chiefs safeties should all be shot; they just plain suck at covering the deep stuff, or really anything over the middle of the field. And I have never seen such shitty tackling. The Chiefs couldn't have tackled me on Saturday.

Everything went wrong for me this weekend in the NFL. No offense to Murg's First Losers, but I could beat 83 points any week unless the chips fell exactly as they did. Peyton's offense stumbles, Seattle's defense craps out against of all teams the TITANS, and Santana Moss/Warrick Dunn/Lamont Jordan can't find the endzone in games with enough points to warrant better numbers. It's a good thing I lost though since Manning would be sitting out the next game anyway with that loss, and I'd have no QB support in the final match.

Oh and to cap it off, Atlanta shoots themselves in the foot, and the Cowboys played like shit. Both teams I like. Thanks NFL, you just convinced me that the playoffs are going to be useless for me this year.

83.95 there buddy.  Seriously, that may be my record low for the season also, I've posted a few in the 130 to 150 range.  Fortunately for me it worked out that my big crap week just so happened to occur when Peyton decided he really doesn't like to play football that much anyway.

I've generally been pretty good at not leaving a lot of points on the bench this season but obviously I'm going to have to have some standout performances this weekend to have a chance.  Who are the agrophobes anyway?

I'm so glad I didn't watch the Packers game last night, and chose to watch the Minnesota Wild pull one out in Hockey instead. It sounded to me like not only did Favre embarrass himself, but the team gave up on Favre, Sherman and the entire game of football. Shit, I knew their D was bad, but goddamn. 48 FUCKING POINTS FROM BALTIMORE AND KYLE "OH GOD MY LEG" BOLLER? WHAT THE FUCK? Ahmad Carroll, you suck. Stick to kickoff returns, because you couldn't cover me in crutches. Someone should tie his hands before he goes out on the field, because he either uses them to much or forgets he has them at all. FUCKING CLUELESS TWATBAG.

At this point, if I were Sherman, I'd start playing the last two games like they were preseason. Start Favre, let him play a half, then give it to Aaron Rodgers. Because God knows they aren't going to do shit the rest of this season and Favre's going to retire at some point. If Green Bay field a team as sorry as this next year, Favre should tell Ted Thompson and Mike Sherman to stick in their stupid asses. That team is a goddamn embarrassment.

Sauced.

Watching the Packers game was painful.  Brett played like a jackass (here's a hint you fellatio happy announcers, FAVRE'S FUCKING IT UP, QUIT PRAISING HIM).  Randomly heaving the ball into the air anytime a defender breathes on you is not brilliance. And quite simply, the team just looked like they gave up.  Getting paid millions of dollars to play a game and you can't even give it your all.  Pathetic.

I can't watch the Packers play anymore, it makes me sad.  Favre is the last of my childhood's quarterbacks.  I didn't realize how much it meant to me that he was still playing untill this season when I realized it was time for him to stop.  I will never blame him, but jesus he just doesn't look the same, I know they have no running game no recievers no line no defense but still he should have been able to eek out 8 wins.  He's fucking Brett Favre damn it.

Next season will be the first time in who knows how long that the packers dont even have one monday night game.

Hmm,

Drew Brees, obvious start.
Tory Holt at SF?  Ok, thats a definate start.
Corey Dillon at NYJ? Monday night - start.
Chris Chambers hasn't let me down yet so hes a starter.

Now the not so obvious part:
Jimmy Smith at Houston
or
Ricky Williams at Ten (If Brown sits and he starts, could be HUGE or could be nothing)
or
Joey Galloway on a career best year at Atl (this is iffy, really, I imagine they are going to run, run, run)

and

And Philly def at Arizona or the NYG?

Any opinions?

Don't even consider Rickey Williams. I'd be more likely to start Galloway than Smith simply because he's been Tampa's pass offense pretty much exclusively. Amazingly enough, I'd go with the Philly D at Arizona. No Kurt Warner, a shitty offensive line, no run game to speak of, you're almost guaranteed to give up less than 14 points, get an INT or two, and a few sacks with all the blitzes Philly runs. NYG against the Redskins is a crap shoot. The Redskins could run all over the Giants, and then drop a few deep ones to Santana Moss. Of course, the Giants defensive backfield is better than the Cowboys' but still.

The Sports Guy's Quote of the Day (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/simmons/index)



You know things are going bad when your own broadcasters are taking shots at you!

Yay for me!

If it makes you feel better Murgos, I lost my office league finals 120 to 50, and it cost me $100.

Thanks for the fun season, gang.

.45 points. Bastard! :evil:

Congrats, and enjoy your reign as champ- I am coming for you next year!

Congrats, Sauced.

Grats Sauced. I know nothing about football other than some people here taking it more seriously than I take games.  :-)

Grats indeed. Once again picking a QB who was meaningless in the latter weeks screwed me. Peyton can get you to the show, but you can't ride him into the the winner's circle.

Apologies for the necro, but I assume this (http://www.jostens.com/sports/fan_sports/index.asp) is in the mail?

OMG. I would kick your nuts into jelly if I saw you wearing one of those.

I would certainly hope so.

Yeah, I'll hand deliver that personally with a donkeypunch.