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Title: Genius or Asshole Move?
Post by: Kyper on April 27, 2004, 10:30:14 PM
So, right after taking the CoH servers down to let in only the retail folks with CD keys, NCSoft offers CD keys for purchase online... immediately.

People on the beta/pre-order boards had been asking about this for a while, since it was mentioned god knows how long ago, but never brought up again.

If you pre-ordered online, it's too late to cancel your order.  But, you can buy a CD key and get right into the game.  

I bought one just now and have a pre-order on the way, but that's because I have more money than sense and I'm an impatient son of a bitch.  I always say "I'll pay for quality and convenience".  

I don't mind that I might wind up with two copies of the game, but something about this offer from NCSoft reeks of opportunism and hiding information from soon-to-be paying customers.

Like I said, I don't mind paying extra and I'm not bitching about it.  Just wondering what others think.


Title: Genius or Asshole Move?
Post by: DarkDryad on April 27, 2004, 10:32:24 PM
well I dunno Gamestop has no idea when they will get my preorder. Luckily I only paid 5 bucks on it so I may just say screw it and buy a key online. I have to work tomorrow sick or not so I'll see.


Title: Re: Genius or Asshole Move?
Post by: Velorath on April 28, 2004, 12:53:36 AM
Quote from: Kyper
If you pre-ordered online, it's too late to cancel your order.  But, you can buy a CD key and get right into the game.


If you pre-ordered it online you could probably find it in the store before your copy arrives too.  The lesson here is never pre-order a game online you want to play at launch.


Title: Re: Genius or Asshole Move?
Post by: tar on April 28, 2004, 02:59:31 AM
Quote from: Velorath
If you pre-ordered it online you could probably find it in the store before your copy arrives too.  The lesson here is never pre-order a game online you want to play at launch.


Unless you live in a country that won't be getting the retail boxes in stores for many months to come. For international orders, the only way to get it is to order online.


Title: Genius or Asshole Move?
Post by: Alrindel on April 28, 2004, 05:29:53 AM
Allowing download purchase of the game: genius.

Not overtly publicizing plans to allow download purchase on release day: understandable.  They have a publisher and a lot of cooperative retailers that they don't want to piss off.

Cutting off the pre-order players right on release day: profoundly stupid.  An awful lot of people who pre-ordered are now banned from the game for n days while they wait for their box to arrive.  They seriously should have extended the cut-off another few days - what would that have cost them?


Title: Genius or Asshole Move?
Post by: tar on April 28, 2004, 05:39:20 AM
Quote from: Alrindel

Cutting off the pre-order players right on release day: profoundly stupid.  An awful lot of people who pre-ordered are now banned from the game for n days while they wait for their box to arrive.  They seriously should have extended the cut-off another few days - what would that have cost them?


Agreed. We've pre-ordered, can't cancel (no cancel option once the beta key was sent), have the client and they already can confirm that we've pre-ordered - we were able to get in for the 3 day thing.

How hard would it be to let the access run a little longer until keys can arrive through the mail? Or even just credit the accounts with a week or two of access, is that unreasonable?

Unless this is a conspiracy to ensure less people in-game for the first few days of retail? :)

Oh well, I suppose I'd better get back to sacrificing chickens to ensure a swift delivery time.


Title: Re: Genius or Asshole Move?
Post by: daveNYC on April 28, 2004, 06:48:03 AM
Quote from: Velorath
Quote from: Kyper
If you pre-ordered online, it's too late to cancel your order.  But, you can buy a CD key and get right into the game.


If you pre-ordered it online you could probably find it in the store before your copy arrives too.  The lesson here is never pre-order a game online you want to play at launch.


I thought the lesson from most MMOGs is don't play at launch.


Title: Re: Genius or Asshole Move?
Post by: schild on April 28, 2004, 06:54:01 AM
Quote from: daveNYC
I thought the lesson from most MMOGs is don't play at launch.


Standard principles do not apply to CoH. I bought a CD key tonight at 12:30, was in the game by 12:45 - billing was a breeze (easy to follow, took like 5 minutes) - and am about to hit level 14.

NCSoft has set the benchmark for a launch and Cryptic has set the benchmark for expected polish from a game. Anything less from ANY game and I just won't get it a chance. Fuck'em - an independent developer showed them how to do business.


Title: Genius or Asshole Move?
Post by: Aslan on April 28, 2004, 06:56:49 AM
Yeah, I noticed that last night as I desperately perused the boards after 11 pm.  I tell you what, I fucking hate getting paid only once a month.  If I wasn't dead broke I would have gotten a CD key last night and the ten bucks I already spent on a pre-order would just be my gift to CoH for the sweet beta...


Title: Genius or Asshole Move?
Post by: DarkDryad on April 28, 2004, 07:21:58 AM
I wholeheartedly agree Oh Aslan king of the catasses. Matter of fact I think we were waiting on the hammer to fall on the globe together if I am not mistaken heh.


Title: Genius or Asshole Move?
Post by: Riggswolfe on April 28, 2004, 08:12:45 AM
Hey Aslan is only Co-King of Catasses. He and I currently share tha title. Get your facts straight before I make you one of my "employees". Don't make me get out of this car and choke a Dryad. You hear me? I want my money, and I want it by tonight.

Oh...and co-king CatAss.


Title: Genius or Asshole Move?
Post by: Aslan on April 28, 2004, 08:17:54 AM
Quote from: DarkDryad
I wholeheartedly agree Oh Aslan king of the catasses. Matter of fact I think we were waiting on the hammer to fall on the globe together if I am not mistaken heh.


Yeah, I saw dryad on top of old Atlas, all covered with cheese.  I wonder if I can petition to have my Derelict title changed to King of the Catasses.  At least until the next election...


Title: Genius or Asshole Move?
Post by: Riggswolfe on April 28, 2004, 08:24:48 AM
I said COOOO-KING!


Title: Genius or Asshole Move?
Post by: Signe on April 28, 2004, 08:26:02 AM
Quote from: Riggswolfe
Hey Aslan is only Co-King of Catasses. He and I currently share tha title. Get your facts straight before I make you one of my "employees". Don't make me get out of this car and choke a Dryad. You hear me? I want my money, and I want it by tonight.

Oh...and co-king CatAss.


Don't you dare TOUCH Dark Dyrad!  I cannot survive this game without my Double Ds!


Title: Genius or Asshole Move?
Post by: Riggswolfe on April 28, 2004, 08:44:22 AM
Signe,

I know you set me up perfectly, that is why I will respectfully decline to make an boob jokes. I will however continue with my hooker jokes I started in my reply to Dark Dryad just as soon as I work up the energy.


Title: Genius or Asshole Move?
Post by: Aslan on April 28, 2004, 08:45:40 AM
Quote from: Riggswolfe
Signe,

I know you set me up perfectly, that is why I will respectfully decline to make an boob jokes. I will however continue with my hooker jokes I started in my reply to Dark Dryad just as soon as I work up the energy.


Yes, hooking IS quite tiring, isn't it Riggsy?  But you have such talent.


Title: Genius or Asshole Move?
Post by: geldonyetich on April 28, 2004, 10:58:58 AM
For Cryptic/NCSoft's sake, I hope they've not been delaying box release deliberately to fish people into buying CD keys.    I may be forced to give them a stern glare.    Of course, this is somewhat unlikely.  

We'll see if my CoH copy shows up at the local EB Games some time today or not.    Just as I was writing this, in fact, eB Games called up and told me my City of Heroes copy is in.   I guess that settles that.


Title: Genius or Asshole Move?
Post by: DarkDryad on April 28, 2004, 11:03:32 AM
You just wish you had gotten a gander at the hottness that are my double D's beyotch. Oh and Im keepin the money punk. I ho for me alone


Title: Genius or Asshole Move?
Post by: Aslan on April 28, 2004, 11:04:09 AM
Quote from: DarkDryad
You just wish you had gotten a gander at the hottness that are my double D's beyotch. Oh and Im keepin the money punk. I ho for me alone


Don't make me send my boys to get my 50%, it won't be pretty.