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Title: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Signe on June 29, 2005, 09:51:13 AM
Beta starts this summer... no exact date.  It looks very wacky and possibly suitable for kids. 

http://www.dofus.com/en/


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Xanthippe on June 29, 2005, 11:11:36 AM
Nice find. 

I'm still trying to find out a date for Hello Kitty Online but the website is woefully inadequate in terms of beta, dates and so on.  When I tried to subscribe to the mailing list, it sent me a message that it could not find me on the list so could not unsubscribe me.  This does not bode well.



Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Margalis on June 29, 2005, 02:42:52 PM
Can I just say that I love, and will always love, 2D games. I might give it a try. It sounds weird but 2D games often feel more alive to me.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Yegolev on June 30, 2005, 10:02:35 AM
Can I just say that I love, and will always love, 2D games. I might give it a try. It sounds weird but 2D games often feel more alive to me.

They generally allow more artistic expression, in my experience.  Even games that are actually 3D but look 2D, like Paper Mario.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Yegolev on July 22, 2005, 06:23:02 AM
Got an email that Dofus open beta starts today.

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From now, you are able to discover the astonishing universe of DOFUS and, by this way, get ready for the final version of September.  We still need more gamers, do not hesitate to advise your friends and family to register.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: schild on July 22, 2005, 06:28:14 AM
Yay. Korean super grind 4tw. Signing up. ^_^


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: schild on July 22, 2005, 06:46:46 AM
HOLY FUCK IT'S FINAL FANTASY TACTICS THE MMORPG.

Dead fucking serious. 3rd Person Isometric Turn Based battling system. Jesus.

Edit: Please note, that doesn't mean it's good, but my mind is blown nonetheless. This game probably needed an assload of animations. The sort of thing you'd expect to be 3d.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Yegolev on July 22, 2005, 06:48:09 AM
I have subjected myself to the agony of the American MOG but not the Korean version yet.  Might as well give it a whirl.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Yegolev on July 22, 2005, 06:54:51 AM
Beside the general site, I forgot to mention they have a community site with plenty of information that I don't understand:

http://community.dofus.com

If you like furries, you have found your MOG.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: schild on July 22, 2005, 07:01:36 AM
If you like furries, you have found your MOG.

Nigga please. Why would you hunt out the forums? If you've been dying to play a Turnbased MMOG, you've found one. It's all flashbased, the overhead is super-low and the animation is pretty high quality. I'm currently converting xvid files to mpv and Dofus is neither slowing down or slowing down the conversion. Slightly impressed with that.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Signe on July 22, 2005, 07:04:20 AM
I got mine a couple days ago, too, but haven't bothered downloading it.  I don't know how long it'll be this easy to get an invite, so if you have kids that need something to do on rainy days this summer, I'd give it a go.  Much of it seems to be an interactive cartoon and by just looking at the website, it seems fairly easy to play. 



Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: schild on July 22, 2005, 07:09:11 AM
Once more than 2-3 enemies are on the screen at once, I see children getting frustrated with this game as they'll likely die. Despite the colorful appearance, it's a true blue turnbased tactics game.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Signe on July 22, 2005, 08:25:48 AM
Too slow for me.  Don't listen to the lullabye music either... I almost fell asleep.  It's cute, though, and I think older kids would do ok.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: schild on July 22, 2005, 08:39:06 AM
Lesson for the day: Squad based tactics games are good. A single unit in a TBS is boring.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Wasted on July 24, 2005, 02:54:32 PM
I dont know if I am overlooking some things cos the help page wont load but after the tutorial does the game pretty much throw you straight into camping mobs for rare drops?  I need a key from a gobball and a feather from a black tofu which I have only seen once.

Not a good start in my books, I like the grind hidden for the first few levels at least :/


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Alkiera on July 24, 2005, 08:16:46 PM
Okay, I'll try almost anything, once.  And I'm a sucker for TBS.

It's painfully cutesy, tho.  (Hrm.  Need an MMO/RPG where 'cute' is a damage type... "Kitten hits YOU for 170 cute damage!")

Alkiera


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Calandryll on July 25, 2005, 07:02:55 AM
Pretty nifty tutorial.

The game has been available in France since 2004. The developer is located in France as well.

http://www.ankama-studio.com/studio.htm


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Murgos on July 25, 2005, 08:00:53 AM
I signed up and will probably check it out tonight.

Are you sure this is supposed to be a childrens game?

(http://www.eng.usf.edu/~wjohnso7/images/amazon_doofus.gif)

I always did like Amazons.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Signe on July 25, 2005, 08:52:44 AM
I don't think it is, Murgos.  When I saw that it was part interactive cartoon, I sort of assumed.  And it is so freeken cute!


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Murgos on July 25, 2005, 08:59:42 AM
It's just, you know, elf boobies.  Now, granted in mythology Athena went bare breasted and used a bow but when you combine that with the body of what looks like a 14 year old boy it's a little disconcerting.

Ahh, well; Vive la France!


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Signe on July 25, 2005, 09:05:55 AM
Actually, what you imply is true.  In France, it can be quite adult by American standards, and still targetted towards kids.  That's true in a lot of Europe.  I've seen several children's shows in several countries with some rather dodgy content.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Xilren's Twin on July 25, 2005, 09:42:11 AM
Actually, what you imply is true.  In France, it can be quite adult by American standards, and still targetted towards kids.  That's true in a lot of Europe.  I've seen several children's shows in several countries with some rather dodgy content.

"Dodgy content" ought to be your nome-de-plume Signe....

Will examine...um, beta test, the child elf boobies in a bit.

Xilren


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Furiously on July 25, 2005, 11:54:14 AM
Their feet are bigger then their head.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Wasted on July 25, 2005, 03:18:54 PM
There is no swear filter as well which I found somewhat strange.  Having a cute cartoon character telling noobs to eat cock and die is more disturbing than I would have originally thought.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Pococurante on July 25, 2005, 08:32:27 PM
Not a problem.  That's ok with the sexually mature Europeans.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Strazos on July 26, 2005, 03:39:44 AM
It's just, you know, elf boobies.  Now, granted in mythology Artemis went bare breasted and used a bow but when you combine that with the body of what looks like a 14 year old boy it's a little disconcerting.

Ahh, well; Vive la France!

Fixed an ugly error for you.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Sky on July 26, 2005, 06:40:32 AM
A game called Doofus with kiddie porn? Right.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Murgos on July 26, 2005, 08:27:29 AM
Can you see that image I hosted? if not:  Click Here (http://www.eng.usf.edu/~wjohnso7/images/amazon_doofus.gif)

Edit:  I also played some last night, created a monk/tank type dude with a big nasty kick attack named Teucor, If you see me around say hi.  Was pretty fun, people can join your fights up until everyone is ready, if you pounce on the ready button as soon as placement starts you can pretty much guarantee a solo encounter.  I haven't tried grouping yet, maybe tonight.

The first couple of quests seem a bit camp-tastic; I sat on a boring ass map for about 45 minutes waiting for a 'Black Tofu' to pop, never did see it.

Only having one character to control in a Combat TBS is a little lame but I could see it being fun with a good group of friends who know thier characters.

Also, no actually nudity in the game that I could see, of course everything is so small there really wouldn't be anything to see anyway.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Yegolev on July 26, 2005, 02:14:32 PM
Somehow I didn't notice the nipples during my first romp through the character descriptions.  I am a big fan of the underboob, but let's see some of that on a woman, not a young boy.

Seems like it could be fun in a relaxed-pace grind way.  The comment about tossing you into a grind right off is fairly accurate.  I'm sure it's harder later on.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Hoax on July 28, 2005, 03:05:28 PM
I made a cat-guy, they suck untill lvl6, but I think I already messed the character up using bonus points in the early level useless skills.  A quick forum search at work revealed which map tiles to go looking for those newbie quest items, and I should hit lvl8 quickly tonight.  I've found that the cat-guy is pretty pwnage at lvl7, as my 4ap attack does way more damage then the natural attack fire thingy of the mage class I've been in a few group battles with. 


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: schild on August 21, 2005, 11:24:53 PM
(http://www.f13.net/images/necropost.gif)

Dofus is going live. Seems like it was ready to, so i can't complain. I might pick up a sub once I get settled in.

I really really want one of these artbooks (http://www.dofus-shop.com/article.php?id=6) but I think getting furniture is a necessity. Sigh.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Merusk on August 22, 2005, 05:39:22 AM
I forgot all about this game.  Downloaded and installed it on the laptop, messed with it one night and forgot about it.  I'm not sure if that speaks more to my attention span or the game itself.  I don't remember hating it, and the classes LOOKED fun.. I think I just wasn't jonesing for a single-character TBS game.  That other one you guys posted earlier where you get to handle the squads looks a lot more fun.

Anywho, if you're getting the art book Schild, just get that artbook + 1 year sub deal that was there. $83.90 for the package ain't too bad a deal since the book costs $30 as it is.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Soukyan on August 22, 2005, 05:52:51 AM
(http://www.f13.net/images/necropost.gif)

Dofus is going live. Seems like it was ready to, so i can't complain. I might pick up a sub once I get settled in.

I really really want one of these artbooks (http://www.dofus-shop.com/article.php?id=6) but I think getting furniture is a necessity. Sigh.

What is this "furniture" you speak of?


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Wasted on August 22, 2005, 06:12:09 AM
I really didnt like this game, its potential was completely and utterly destroyed by the complete reliance on a loot system to pad out the content. I got a character up to level 10 I think and never found one equipable item as loot, as far as I see all you do in the game is camp mobs for rare items.  I tried a little of the mining, which consisited of running around a very small mine and trying to get to the resource node before the 5 other people running around doing the same thing...and you have to do this for 10 levels before you get to compete for the next type of metal.  Every quest I took either had you trying to jump one sole mob that spawns before the group fills up or killing tonnes of mobs for a 'rare' drop.

Add in the morons that join battles to team kill you, and the pretty annoying community the game has, and there really is very little to redeem this game at all, even as an amusing distraction.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Hoax on August 22, 2005, 07:25:29 AM
I'm going to pretend to be an expert here considering I did take a character to 23...

The best thing about Dofus is that it actually has open pvp, but with a consent system, but not in the lame as hell /pvp on sense we are used to.  At any point in your character's career you can complete a realitively easy quest and get your "wings" from either the good or evil city.  Once you do that you can no aggro other players with the opposite type of wing as you.  Or something like that...

The worst thing about Dofus is without a spoiler site you can't figure out how anything works, in-game documentation is for pussies or something, according to french philosophers.  (btw the fact the game is french is definitely top3 on the worst list  :-P  )

The loot system unfortunately is fairly stupid, mostly due to the fact that their fairly amazing crafting-system is completely fucked by the following:

a) crafting is annoying at lower levels when your rushing around trying to beat 3+ people to the low tier resource spawns.
b) some crafting jobs are aparently useless (per forum complaints) but are needed to provide components for other crafters
c) people are idiots
d) you can only have 6 players in store mode per map, and people will often take useless items and set a 999,999,999 price so they will never stop being in store mode...

This combined with the fact that the only non crafting component drops you are likely to see are ethereal weapons that can be used for 10 fights then break (and thanks to the lack of documentation I'm not even sure what your supposed to do with them) and set items.  Set items are fucking rediculously good at least for the first two sets.  This means there is indeed allot of loot camping.

Combat is slow, but can be fun, against other human beings.  It is a bit of a chore versus AI, but still not as bad as one might imagine. 

If you really need something to take up your time, buy a 2 month sub for something like $13 but you will quit this game within 6 weeks.  Unless we had an actual organized guild that met all our crafter needs (and just pooled mob-drop resources).  Not too mention with organization you could take much harder mobs, which might be fun.  Oh and the pvp would be sweet.

Without a guild your relying on a half french game pop to not be fucking morons in a MG where a person can grief you hard just by going afk.  Does that sound like a good idea to you?


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: schild on August 23, 2005, 12:18:55 AM
Dofus is going live. Seems like it was ready to, so i can't complain. I might pick up a sub once I get settled in.

I really really want one of these artbooks (http://www.dofus-shop.com/article.php?id=6) but I think getting furniture is a necessity. Sigh.

What is this "furniture" you speak of?

I just moved into a new house, I can't afford to buy an artbook instead of new furniture.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Merusk on August 23, 2005, 04:32:58 AM
Kids these days.  When I was young a few cinder blocks and 2x10s stolen from a construction site as a bookshelf and a $20 beanbag chair and $30 coffee table from Wal*Mart was some damn fine living.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Signe on August 23, 2005, 04:43:50 AM
You don't need a coffee table.  Buy a book.  You could probably get nearly everything you need from the stuff people leave sitting on their patios, anyway.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Soukyan on August 23, 2005, 04:51:57 AM
Dofus is going live. Seems like it was ready to, so i can't complain. I might pick up a sub once I get settled in.

I really really want one of these artbooks (http://www.dofus-shop.com/article.php?id=6) but I think getting furniture is a necessity. Sigh.

What is this "furniture" you speak of?

I just moved into a new house, I can't afford to buy an artbook instead of new furniture.

*blink*

I knew that. ;) Gotcha!

But as Signe said, just keep your eyes peeled on bulk day. It's amazing how much antique furniture gets set out by the side of the road. Just find a nearby affluent neighborhood (if yours is not) and go cruising. A little refinishing goes a long way.

And of course the most important thing... you'll also have a nice coffee table book to set on your "new"-found furniture.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Signe on October 28, 2005, 12:10:58 PM
Quote
DOFUS keeps on evolving and improving...

You have discovered DOFUS, the 1st tactical and Massive Multiplayer Online game.

Many players – including you maybe - have expressed the thought that DOFUS should be free.


DOFUS becomes Free...

We are glad to announce you that you can now play DOFUS for free!

Indeed, from now on, you can play DOFUS for free and with no limit of time, embark upon all the new quests available in the completely new region of Astrub, and benefit from many other features, including monsters fighting, jobs, quest log, new sets…


Ready to take up the challenge?


Download the new version of  DOFUS  (http://download.dofus.com/)


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Hoax on October 28, 2005, 01:36:25 PM
Sweet I liked Dofus but not enough to pay for it, wonder if they wiped the accounts and if I have time for it now that I'm working through the GW missions, playing Gunz still and dabbling in M&B when the need to hack-n-slash things arises.


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: Alkiera on October 28, 2005, 01:58:21 PM
Hrm.  Even at free, I'm not sure if DOFUS is a value for my entertainment dollar.

Alkiera


Title: Re: Beta applications starting for Dofus.
Post by: DevilsAdvocate on November 02, 2005, 09:15:48 PM
I played it. So did my 7 year old son.

The complete lack of an in-game help system and the fact that so many, many people will team kill you or kick you from an encounter when you are just trying to complete whatever silly quest you picked up coupled with the really odd level power disparieties (level 2 mob of one type is easy, level 2 mob of another type is quick death) made this game too much of a pain in the ass to play. Add in that once you choose a profession, you can't learn another one or drop the one you just learned (unless a player chooses potionmaking and sells you the Forget potion) so that you get stuck doing something you really didn't want to do. In my case, I wanted to make swords, so I learned swordmaking. I needed wood for that so I tried to learn lumberjacking and found out how the system worked. They essentially force a player economy through the loot drops and the tradeskills. Grind is too kind a word for this game.

My son liked it, but he started running into problems when he couldn't figure out what to do next. And when he asked for help, most players refused or killed him when he joined their groups to fight stuff. Considering that I played with him and saw that he understood what to do and could play his class (the summoner guy) reasonably well, it told me that the people were the problem.

What ultimately decided me against this game was the forums. Developer responses on the forums to bugs or in-game situations that made the game unfun were almost always "Well, the French players have no problem with that, so we are not changing it." or the dreadful "Working as Intended". When you have a level 30 mob right in the path of the class temple you are supposed to visit at level 6 (I played a Sacrier), you have a problem that needs to be fixed, not handwaved.