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Title: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 22, 2005, 10:10:41 AM 209.59.137.153:16567
Only one map in rotation at the moment. Going to EB to pick up my preorder now. schild is probably crying somewhere right now. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: WayAbvPar on June 22, 2005, 10:15:19 AM Warn me if the installation fucks your machine in the ass via Safedisc or some other nefarious malware.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: ahoythematey on June 22, 2005, 12:23:18 PM I'll be sure to join when I return from CompUSA with the proper version(read:DVD-Rom). I don't anticipate schild crying much until Willy Wonka makes it to theatres and he realizes they tried way too fucking hard.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 22, 2005, 06:17:52 PM Retail Linux server crashes as often as the demo.
Amused I am not. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 22, 2005, 07:11:30 PM I got the map rotation set up for 16 player maps like Nix suggested.
I'm lonely. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: bhodikhan on June 22, 2005, 07:39:25 PM Was on the f13 server and finally someone else joined. At that moment my client quickly and gracefully dropped back to the desktop.
I think they need a patch. Soon. I've seen way too much of my desktop when playing this game. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 22, 2005, 07:44:32 PM Was on the f13 server and finally someone else joined. At that moment my client quickly and gracefully dropped back to the desktop. I think they need a patch. Soon. I've seen way too much of my desktop when playing this game. I was crashing to desktop the same time you were. Not good. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 22, 2005, 08:08:27 PM Ok, I foolishly updated the PunkBuster server software and have reverted back to what the retail server came packaged with. Perhaps that'll clear up the crashes.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: schild on June 22, 2005, 08:17:40 PM You're working too hard on this game.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 22, 2005, 08:18:25 PM You're working too hard on this game. I want to play it. I paid for it. I'm trying to justify my purchase. I... am ashamed. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: schild on June 22, 2005, 08:23:50 PM I warned you when I saw the packaging when we opened this morning.
It didn't even have a box. Fuck that, it didn't even have a slipcover like the original UT2k4 release (not the shitty budget release). It looked like it was plastiwrapped by a member of the shortbus symposium and the cover art was photochopped by a team of barely trained apes. You don't get what you pay for. You get what EA wants to give you. Which is dick. In the eye. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: ahoythematey on June 22, 2005, 08:36:34 PM After going through the account registration process, I'm pretty sure that having to endure the end of days would be worth it if it meant ign and gamespy would also suffer the armageddon. After a billion tries to create an account that does not exist according to their stupid servers, I managed to machete my way through the horrifucking awful interface and make it to your server.
And I am all alone. Duplicity needs some enemies, please join kthxbye. Is VoIP currently disabled on the server? Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: bhodikhan on June 23, 2005, 06:47:09 AM Ok, I foolishly updated the PunkBuster server software and have reverted back to what the retail server came packaged with. Perhaps that'll clear up the crashes. Yea. I noticed some PunkBuster warning about a version mis-match. That might have been the problem. PB was kicking me. But why would it kick me to the damm desktop? Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 23, 2005, 06:48:41 AM Well, it seems PunkBuster is not updating itself either on the client or the server like it's supposed to. PunkBuster released an update yesterday and since the auto-update wasn't working, I did a manual. Silly me.
As for crashing to desktop... shitty programming. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Sky on June 23, 2005, 09:49:45 AM I warned you when I saw the packaging when we opened this morning. Wow, sand in your pussy much? I think we get the point, this is where you stop reading the battlefield forum, lest you drive away the last couple people interested in the game. Unless that was your point. I mean, I know it's your site and all, but holy shit man.It didn't even have a box. Fuck that, it didn't even have a slipcover like the original UT2k4 release (not the shitty budget release). It looked like it was plastiwrapped by a member of the shortbus symposium and the cover art was photochopped by a team of barely trained apes. You don't get what you pay for. You get what EA wants to give you. Which is dick. In the eye. It's a game. Not having a box is a /good thing/. Boxes are extraneous pieces of garbage. To get that worked up over a box...dude, find a new hobby. Seriously. A dick in the eye? :roll: I guess this is where you could go the Pop route and ban me for offending the delicate sensibilities of the administration, but I'd hope you'd take it as friendly advice to take a break or something. Because that's how it's meant, along with a side of griping about your overtly negative posts on the subject...I mean, I don't post in EQ2 forum anymore... Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Sky on June 23, 2005, 09:50:39 AM For the record, the demo hasn't crashed on me once in hours of play...
Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 23, 2005, 09:59:09 AM For the record, the demo hasn't crashed on me once in hours of play... I had no problems with the demo. The retail game, however... Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 23, 2005, 10:28:56 AM It seems there's a major issues with the Linux retail server. (http://www.forumplanet.com/planetbattlefield/topic.asp?fid=13269&tid=1679392)
I guess I'm not the only one with this problem and it does not affect the demo Linux server. Fuck you DICE. Quote I run multiple linux server (Gentoo/Redhat), and whenever a map ends, or the round ends, everyone connected crashs to desktop. Furthermore, if the game starts, and people leave, leaving 1 person left in the server, the map ends, and their game crashs. This is a HUGE issue, and no matter what I tweak, it does not go away. I spend 3 hours testing on multiple servers last night with the same final result. I've moved my server back to the demo server, as this does not happen here (not sure why it would happen in retail, but not the demo).. This happends regardless of map size, and this happends regardless of the map you play. I'm sure some servers do not do this, or more people would complain. Perhaps it's an issue with Linux servers only... Have any of you seen this problem? If not, what is your configuration, what flavor are you running, and where did you get your binaries? If someone had this and figured out a workaround/fix, please let us know. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 23, 2005, 10:29:58 AM Ok, according to DICE they are sending an updated Linux server without the bug to EA now.
I'll believe it when I see it. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 23, 2005, 10:32:43 AM Ok, here's a bit of STUPID FUCKING JERKWADING DOUCHEBAGGERY...
The number of the released Linux retail server is 1.0.2442, the number of the released demo server is 1.0.2446. That's right boys and girls, they released an older binary than what was current. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Miasma on June 23, 2005, 10:51:26 AM I can't empathize with your anger because whenever I look at your super cat avatar (and there are four of them staring at me) all the hate just flows away.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 23, 2005, 10:53:12 AM I have shut down the Linux server for BF2 until the fix is available. There's no reason to even bother until people can actually PLAY.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 23, 2005, 11:08:35 AM It seems there's a server control GUI application in development. Hopefully it will be released soon. (http://www.bf2cc.com/)
However, according to this interview (http://igsoa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60) it should've been released at launch. Quote IGSOA Will there be a remote server tool at launch DICE Yes, BDSoft (the makers of BFVCC and BFCC) will be releasing a server manager (called BF2CC) when BF2 launches and will provide post-launch support and updates as BF2 is updated. EA and DICE are working very closely with BDSoft to make sure these tools will be the be-all and end-all of server management software. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Sky on June 23, 2005, 01:53:07 PM I don't want to poke the admins here any more (sorry schild), but I do have to ask ya Shockeye: Do you play mmogs on the release day? ;) Though I gripe about my podunk town not getting software until a week after release, it really doesn't bug me, because it gives some time to straighten out exactly these kinds of issues.
But I hear you, sounds like they are releasing pretty sloppy, which also happened with BF1942, especially with server admin tools (and iirc the linux server was slow to release and/or buggy). I'm just a fanboi of great games, and even with some lumps, it's a great game. And supercat is our saviour. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 23, 2005, 02:03:54 PM Some MMOGs I have played on release. AO (the horror), WWIIOL (first week, gah!), DAoC, SB (sb.exe), CoH, WoW, etc.
MMOGs DO NOT COMPARE to this. They released a retail build that was OLDER than their demo build. 64-bit people are having serious issues with punkbuster, 32-bit linux people can't even run their servers, etc. I can forgive a server admin tool not being out on release only because they have never had one ready for release for any of the earlier games. But not having a stable dedicated server binary is not acceptable. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: ahoythematey on June 23, 2005, 02:05:08 PM It is a great game, but there is absolutely no fucking excuse for this, other than "We are EA, this is what we do to all our games." Or maybe DICE as well, for that matter. The interface is inexcusable, the login system is almost as awful, the bugs are nearing Wolfpack proportions, it seems, and to top it all off the graphical upgrade is negligible(in case anybody wants to retort with I need a more powerful system, I'm running an athlon 64 3400+ with a gf6800 gt, which runs doom3 and half life 2 almost perfectly at high quality everything). The only reason I actually ignored my "never buy EA" mantra is because I think the game is really fun when things work out well and I suspect the mod community is going to do some wonderful things with this should EA let them, which will probably lead me to firebomb their shiny new offices in California.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 23, 2005, 02:11:12 PM My computer is up to snuff for it as well:
AMD64 3000+/3200+ 2gb RAM, X800 XL. As I said to Joe last night, it's like EA hired Wolfpack to QA DICE's work. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: HaemishM on June 23, 2005, 02:24:47 PM Well, they were probably as cheap as the guy's who didn't QA the BF2 stuff.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 23, 2005, 02:31:43 PM Well, they were probably as cheap as the guy's who didn't QA the BF2 stuff. I'm impressed. I mentioned sb.exe a few messages back and you didn't pop a blood vessel. You're making progress. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: HaemishM on June 23, 2005, 02:40:24 PM RAGE SKULLFUCKING TITWILLOW
Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 23, 2005, 02:43:47 PM One step forward, two steps back.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: bhodikhan on June 23, 2005, 03:18:35 PM Looking at the server browser (which sucks!) I've noticed a rather un-surprising trend. None of the Linux servers seem to be full. Hell, most of them are kicking people faster than they can be joined!
"BF2 Linux server edition. We've always got a spot open for you" -- EA Games Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 23, 2005, 03:33:05 PM DICE has released the updated Linux server to EA and now it is going through QA (ha!). I spose we'll see the update sometime next week.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: schild on June 23, 2005, 05:40:34 PM Sky, we gave Bloodlines game of the year for '04.
I don't think I need to say anything else on the subjects you touched on. But you must understand: I don't like being FUCKED WITH. MMOGs being shitty on release day is accepted even though it shouldn't be. Apathy isn't helping the industry. A major player like EA shouldn't be allowed to pull the shit they pulled. Period. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Jobu on June 23, 2005, 06:06:24 PM More kindling for the inferno of EA hate.
A quote from the All Seeing Eye forums (ASE is an alternative server browser which rocks): Quote Anach: Let me restate it for you. All game companies that are supported by ASE allow you to join a server by issuing the game a command line argument similar to: bf.exe +joinserver 192.168.1.1 or something similar. For some reason, DICE took out that ability. There is nothing ASE can do to support this game unless they change that to work again. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Trippy on June 23, 2005, 06:17:33 PM More kindling for the inferno of EA hate. That's rumored to be fixed/updated in the upcoming patch but of course with EA you never know (the BF2 demo executable actually has those command line parameter strings in there but the code ignores them). I was actually working on my own server browser using gslist (http://aluigi.altervista.org/papers.htm#distrust) cause the built-in one is the crappiest server browser of all time until I ran into the above problem and gave up.A quote from the All Seeing Eye forums (ASE is an alternative server browser which rocks): Quote Anach: Let me restate it for you. All game companies that are supported by ASE allow you to join a server by issuing the game a command line argument similar to: bf.exe +joinserver 192.168.1.1 or something similar. For some reason, DICE took out that ability. There is nothing ASE can do to support this game unless they change that to work again. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 23, 2005, 06:41:20 PM Ok, since none of the other chucklefucks in the BF2 Linux community has tried this, I am running the demo binary 1.0.2446-12 with the retail server files 1.0.2442. This -may- fix the problem. Who knows.
Server is up. Give it a try. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 23, 2005, 09:51:42 PM Seeing as how ranked servers are all but unplayable because of the warping and rubberbanding, I returned my copy of Battlefield 2 to the store. After getting store credit for the buggy POS, I got a Gamecube game for my kid and a Logitech wireless Xbox controller for myself.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Viin on June 23, 2005, 10:58:03 PM Seeing as how ranked servers are all but unplayable because of the warping and rubberbanding, I returned my copy of Battlefield 2 to the store. After getting store credit for the buggy POS, I got a Gamecube game for my kid and a Logitech wireless Xbox controller for myself. Good for you! (no sarcasm) Now if everyone else would do the same thing! (You can always buy it again if they ever patch it so it's playable - and maybe at a cheaper price!) Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 23, 2005, 11:00:52 PM If you go to your EB Games or Gamestop and make enough noise, they will take your return.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Sky on June 24, 2005, 08:48:06 AM Quote to top it all off the graphical upgrade is negligible Heh.Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: AcidCat on June 24, 2005, 10:38:09 AM Seeing as how ranked servers are all but unplayable because of the warping and rubberbanding, I returned my copy of Battlefield 2 to the store. Hmmm, maybe I just got lucky, but I played on 4 different ranked servers last night and had no problems. My only complaint was that asinine Dam level, a flaghoppers dream, where unless you're in the air you're forced to navigate an endless maze back and forth as flags are taken at opposite ends of the map by people in choppers. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 24, 2005, 02:15:17 PM Well, there has been no more communication from DICE regarding the Linux server issue since they sent a fixed build to EA. Since it is after 5pm on the east coast, I doubt there'll be a released server fix for Linux before next week. Way to go EA!
Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 25, 2005, 02:56:00 PM It seems someone has figured out a temporary fix for the Linux server, but it requires changing the Python files. I'm sure this will constitute as a "hack" and will cause servers using this fix to get delisted. Up yours EA.
Quote from: eXhumed WORKING PYTHON FIX for Linux Retail Server (http://bf1942.lightcubed.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2225) 1/ You will need shell access to the server. 2/ Edit /<BF2 dir>/python/bf2/stats/endofround.py , with 'vi' or similar 3/ Stick a # in front of "host.gl_sendEndOfRoundData(dataString)" 4/ Restart - Tada! This really does work, the only side effects is the stats shown whilst the map loads will be missing. Not ideal, but Im sure you will all agree, definately worth it Happy serving. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: HaemishM on June 25, 2005, 05:08:18 PM Wow, deja fucking vu. This sounds like a lot of the same type of stupidity that accompanied the release of BF1942. It's good to know they've learned something from the past.
Time to EA closing down DICE's shops and folding them into the EA conglomerate: 2.5 years. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: schild on June 25, 2005, 05:39:05 PM Wow, I had the over/under on that at 2 weeks.
Haem, has anyone told you you're too nice? Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Jobu on June 27, 2005, 10:14:30 AM Time to EA closing down DICE's shops and folding them into the EA conglomerate: 2.5 years. I'm going with shortly after their first expansion. Say.... 14 months. Hey, someone should start up a death pool. "Ja ja, Välkommen to EA: Stockholm" Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: HaemishM on June 27, 2005, 11:23:00 AM Nahhh, they still have one more big sequel game to put out before the downslope.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 27, 2005, 02:28:35 PM Here is a message EA UK posted on their forums in regards to support for the Linux server:
Quote Hello, Thank you for contacting EA technical support. I am sorry that you are having difficulty. Unfortunately, we do not support the Server software. You may wish to try running the server in Windows instead of Linux. The current gossip is that the build DICE submitted to EA was very laggy and EA is demading a new build from DICE. Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: bhodikhan on June 27, 2005, 03:50:47 PM Gossip? Christ! Everytime I try and play the problems are staring me in the face. If I were EA I'd be pissed. However, as long as the money stream keeps flowing I doubt anything else matters to EA.
"Oh. We're selling 1 mil tons of crap a week at a 95% profit? How come we're not selling 2 mil?" Title: Re: Battlefield 2 Retail Linux Server Post by: Shockeye on June 27, 2005, 04:20:58 PM Well, it seems the publisher testing the network code instead of the developer seems to be not uncommon, after talking to someone who worked at a game development company.
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