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Title: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 13, 2005, 11:14:34 PM
(http://www.f13.net/sicko/psp-dev_launcher.jpg)

Quite possibly, the best video I've ever seen. (http://www.f13.net/sicko/psp-dev-1.5.avi)


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Trippy on June 13, 2005, 11:26:15 PM
Better run out and get your 1.5 PSP before Sony changes the firmware again. Of course, just like in Japan, Sony will then require that future games only run on the latest firmware (the latest games coming out in Japan won't work on 1.0 PSPs) which means more PSPs sold for Sony!


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 13, 2005, 11:29:34 PM
I'd rather play Final Fantasy II than anything Sony could put out.

That's the sad truth of it really.

Emulators > Just about Anything that can be released.

Maybe, MAYBE I'd upgrade for a Jaffe designed portable God of War. But Probably Not.

Edit: On second thought, I'm more excited that an exploit might exist that will let me run movies at a full 480x272 instead of this tiny shit they're forcing me into.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Alluvian on June 14, 2005, 10:02:27 AM
Isn't the game park 32 really good at emulation?  Didn't they even make a GBA emulator (not sure on this)?

But even having a fully working MAME on something like the gamepark interests me far more than a stock psp.  Way too much money for a huge screen and awful battery life.  Although I know nothing of the gp32 battery life.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 14, 2005, 10:03:36 AM
Too much money for a huge screen? Huh?

The battery life is fine. Particularly when running shit off a memory stick. Don't be the guy that rags on outdated press backlash.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Alluvian on June 14, 2005, 10:14:18 AM
Okay, good time for some real information then...

How long DO the batteries last during gameplay?  (I can't imagine EVER wanting to watch a movie on any portable device, but I am not the type that likes seeing movies repeatedly that much anyway)


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Rasix on June 14, 2005, 10:17:23 AM
The most battery raping game ever, Untold Legends, will still net you battery life in excess of 4 hours.  Lumines you're going to get over 6 hours, easy.   

Movies don't seem to drain the battery that bad.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Alluvian on June 14, 2005, 10:24:10 AM
4-6 hours?  That is a good number?  Ugh.  Until battery technology improves at least 4 fold I have no interest in that shit.

Unless the modern recharcables hold charges MUCH better than they used to.  Rechargables from the last time I used them much didn't live very well past 10-20 rechargings.  The thing would have to survive at least weekend trip on one set of batteries before I am interested (10-20 hour min for me).

This isn't a diss on the psp really, but portable electronics in general.  My work laptop for instance only lasts a few hours unplugged.  I missed when this shit became acceptable.  I am glad it is for many because it pushed a lot of nice wireless tech that would have been stagnant otherwise, but it just isn't for me.

Give me nuclear batteries or fuel cell batteries (the rfid reader developed for wallmart uses fuel cells)


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 14, 2005, 10:31:35 AM
The PSP is fine. I can get 9 hours out of it with light on min mostly doing shit off a memory stick like watching TV.

Also, there's are cheap ways to double, triple, and easily quadruple the battery life carrying very little more around.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Nija on June 14, 2005, 10:49:39 AM
Does it involve a device like QVC tries to sell me? One of those 'shake the flashlight enough and you'll never need batteries!' things.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Aenovae on June 14, 2005, 10:58:06 AM
I'm stoked about PSP emulation.  I'll finally buy a PSP once we get perfect SNES emulation.

What codec do I need to play that avi?  :~(


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 14, 2005, 02:03:48 PM
Perfect SNES emulation? (http://www.f13.net/sicko/psp-dev_launching.avi)

That's what everyone wants. That would dictate it's the first useful thing out.

Enjoy the video.

Edit: Movie is now uploaded - click on link above.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Daydreamer on June 14, 2005, 02:19:39 PM
What codec is that encoded with?  My quicktime does't seem to like your videos.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 14, 2005, 02:23:52 PM
Uninstall whatever codec pack you use and just get this:

The DefilerPak (http://hellninjacommando.com/defilerpak/).

The final update was August 2004, but I haven't really had to update since then.

If you're a chronic updater, get this:

Gordian Knot Codec Pak (http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/gordianknot/Gordian.Knot.Codec.Pack.1.9.Setup.exe?download).


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Kairos on June 14, 2005, 02:26:33 PM
Isn't the game park 32 really good at emulation?  Didn't they even make a GBA emulator (not sure on this)?

The big problem with the GP32 is that it only has two face buttons. Not so good for doing stuff like playing SNES games.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Nija on June 14, 2005, 02:42:15 PM
Another good site for codecs is http://www.free-codecs.com/ (might have some ads and popups and shit, i dont know thanks to adblock+ff, be wary in IE) - they package the newest media player classic with their 'real player alternative' (and quicktime) so you can play those without actually installing QT/real. Plus, they have the newest packaged ffdshow which will play h.264.



Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Aenovae on June 14, 2005, 03:13:07 PM
After downloading every codec known to man, I discovered that the original movie is 2.5MB and schild's link is only 500KB.

Here's the real link:  http://www.xente.mundo-r.com/cybblade/psp-dev/psp-dev-1.5.avi

The movie's not really worth the trouble unless you enjoy watching horrendously blurry movies of someone navigating menus to the tune of The Prodigy's Firestarter....on firmware 1.5!


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 14, 2005, 03:14:15 PM
500k? Fuck. I don't know what hte problem is. Shit always gets screwed up when I upload anythign larger than 200k. I want to cry. And there's more than one typo in this post. Sigh.

I posted the second movie because it's Link to the Past on a 1.5 PSP.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Fabricated on June 14, 2005, 03:50:36 PM
I'm stoked about PSP emulation.  I'll finally buy a PSP once we get perfect SNES emulation.

What codec do I need to play that avi?  :~(

Once the hackers get really good at knocking out Sony's firmware and all of it's subsequent updates emulators should move along nicely. The PSP's processors are MIPS based and pretty well documented I think, so emulators should be short in coming.

I'm wanting GBA emulation myself if for nothing but the irony.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Aenovae on June 14, 2005, 03:53:38 PM
YES!

That Zelda movie makes my day.

Damnit, I need to save my $$$ but PSP is looking mighty sweet right about now.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 14, 2005, 03:55:55 PM
The Zelda movie has 2000-2001 in the copyright bar. And seeing the way it's centered in the middle of the screen, there's fair reason to believe it's the Spanish GBA release. The GBA Emulators are far beyond the Super Nintendo emulators for the PSP. Also, the opening Triforce falling in goes at full speed. Definately GBA.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Kairos on June 15, 2005, 01:19:03 AM
I thought about mentioning the copyright date, but I checked my GBA copy of LttP and saw that the title screen and file select screen looked completely different than the one shown in the video, which looks -- if I recall correctly -- like the SNES one. Hardly conclusive proof of anything, of course. It's possible the Spanish release used the old title screen. Another possibility is that it is an SNES release from a Latin/South American country. In poorer countries, game systems are often released and supported in that way years after they've died in Japan and the US.

Considering as far as I am aware of there is no GBA emulator for the PSP, that'd be my guess.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 15, 2005, 04:43:58 AM
Ok. The 1.5 exploit does work, but it's stupid, unwieldly and not portable.

It's a step in the right direction but there's a lot of excitement over nothing. The videos weren't faked, but the exploit is the kind of gift you give a younger brother to make him feel as special as the older brother. I should have known not to trust these people.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 15, 2005, 05:23:11 AM
Oh more news from the land that time forgot:

1. The exploit corrupts memory sticks left and right requiring reformatting.
2. Snes9X doesn't work. You need to use NesterJ.
3. Don't trust spanish hackers bearing gifts.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Azaroth on June 15, 2005, 07:17:38 AM
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Of course, just like in Japan, Sony will then require that future games only run on the latest firmware (the latest games coming out in Japan won't work on 1.0 PSPs) which means more PSPs sold for Sony!

Uh, that'd piss me off?


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Azaroth on June 15, 2005, 10:40:25 AM
I have to revisit this for a second and clear something up for myself.

Keep in mind that I neither have a PSP nor do I know anything about them.

Are you telling me that people have to buy entirely new PSPs to play the newer games?

There has to be some kind of update mechanism, right? Wireless update or something of that kind. Right?

...

Right?

Because if I bought a PSP, and suddenly had to buy ANOTHER one to play the new games, I'd fucking kick someone in the face.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Shockeye on June 15, 2005, 10:50:32 AM
No. What it means is that if you want to play emulators or cracked games, you have to never update your firmware. But if you want to play games where Sony requires a firmware update, you'll have to buy a second PSP.

Only the stinking dirty pirates have to buy multiple PSPs.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Azaroth on June 15, 2005, 10:56:13 AM
Oh, good. They're dirty and also they stink.

I couldn't possibly fucking grasp a universe wherein that could be the case, though. All I could picture was Sony execs with PSPs crammed roughly into their anuses.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: HaemishM on June 15, 2005, 11:14:16 AM
The new games come with the firmware update or you can download it wirelessly, I think. Shockeye is fucking with you.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Shockeye on June 15, 2005, 11:16:22 AM
The new games come with the firmware update or you can download it wirelessly, I think. Shockeye is fucking with you.

No, I'm not. What I said was that to play legit games you need a legit PSP. To play non-legit games, you need a second PSP that never has a firmware update applied to it.

And pirates are dirty stinky people.

Arrrrr....


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 15, 2005, 04:25:53 PM
You'll have to upgrade to play GTA, no doubt. In which case every hole will be cracked.

I'm willing to spend $250 just to have my FFIV and VI on the road with me. They're THAT GOOD.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Daydreamer on June 15, 2005, 05:08:51 PM
FFIV

Easytype or Hardtype?


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 15, 2005, 05:11:11 PM
Doesn't matter the type. There are a handful of games I will grind in. That's one of them. And it FILLS ME WITH GLEE.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Azazel on June 16, 2005, 08:10:00 AM
The movie's not really worth the trouble unless you enjoy watching horrendously blurry movies of someone navigating menus to the tune of The Prodigy's Firestarter....on firmware 1.5!

Not that it matters, but the song is Rage Against the Machine's "Wake Up" from The Matrix soundtrack. Firestarter is a much better song IMO.



Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 16, 2005, 08:11:56 AM
The first movie was Firestarter.
The second movie was Wake up.

Aen was referring to the first movie.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Azazel on June 16, 2005, 08:17:17 AM
Ah, thought it was the same link. mea culpa.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: HaemishM on June 16, 2005, 08:52:12 AM
The movie's not really worth the trouble unless you enjoy watching horrendously blurry movies of someone navigating menus to the tune of The Prodigy's Firestarter....on firmware 1.5!

Not that it matters, but the song is Rage Against the Machine's "Wake Up" from The Matrix soundtrack. Firestarter is a much better song IMO.

Philistine.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Velorath on June 16, 2005, 03:21:22 PM
Not that it matters, but the song is Rage Against the Machine's "Wake Up" from The Matrix soundtrack. Firestarter is a much better song IMO.

Not to nitpick your nitpick, but "Wake Up" was originally off Rage's self-titled album which came out about a half-decade before the Matrix.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 21, 2005, 08:13:50 PM
Rerail:

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Almost a week after Killer-X and the PSP-Dev team released the revolutionary Swaploit v0.1, and they seem to be at it again. Their website states that on the 22nd of June (tomorrow), at 12:00 GMT, they will be releasing a new version of this method. Details as of now are fuzzy since nothing is said about it except:

“Several days ago we released the swaploit (15-Jun) , some of the sceners got satisfied but some of you tell us to do it better. Today we are proud to announce that in a few days you will get a new hit from Killer-X and PsP-Dev Team...”

The only clues the videos on the site offer of this new version is something called 'Direct Loader', followed by a SNES emu loading up WITHOUT swapping memory sticks. Is this is the end of memory stick swapping? Let us only hope. Should this be true, expect another groundbreaking PSP 1.5 hack tomorrow morning. Stay tuned for more details as this story progresses.

That's from PSPHacker.

I really hope they release a direct loading exploit. I'm getting tired of tempting myself to do the swap method (I haven't as of yet).


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 22, 2005, 02:30:39 PM
I'm too busy playing Final Fantasy III at full speed with sound and full screen on my PSP to hear the wails of the dying in Battlefield II.

But I'll tell you what sound I do hear - the sound of a million game boys and super nintendos crying out at once.

Edit: I should add, you have to toggle 333mhz to run SNES at full speed. NES is perfect though. And that makes me nearly as happy. Keke.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 22, 2005, 05:09:34 PM
Ok, frameskip 1, sound 11khz, psp clock @ 333. Runs SNES at full speed. Super Metroid doesn't work. Final Fantasy III hangs. Everything else seems perfecto.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Aenovae on June 23, 2005, 11:26:43 AM
So these emus work for 1.5 PSPs?  There's been so much PSP news lately that I lost track of where we were.

Can I go to EB right now, buy a PSP, download an emu, and be playing FF3us by the end of the day?  Or are there caveats?


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 23, 2005, 05:49:24 PM
Yes. You can. Some areas in the FF games run slowly for me. Will probably be fixed within the week now that America is working on it.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Trippy on June 23, 2005, 05:51:29 PM

So these emus work for 1.5 PSPs?  There's been so much PSP news lately that I lost track of where we were.

Can I go to EB right now, buy a PSP, download an emu, and be playing FF3us by the end of the day?  Or are there caveats?
Sony has released downloadable 1.51 and 1.52 firmware updates for the US PSPs so they may be shipping the latest PSPs to the US with one of those firmware updates.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 23, 2005, 05:53:46 PM
The PSPs we got today at EB are 1.5. If they have a used one at your local EB, get that. Particularly since you'll be running it at 333mhz. And GET A SERVICE PLAN. Errr, duh? Anyway, yea, they'll probably get 1.5x working in a months time. The 1.5 hack was stupid easy.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Shockeye on June 23, 2005, 06:01:44 PM
The PSPs we got today at EB are 1.5. If they have a used one at your local EB, get that. Particularly since you'll be running it at 333mhz. And GET A SERVICE PLAN. Errr, duh? Anyway, yea, they'll probably get 1.5x working in a months time. The 1.5 hack was stupid easy.

So stupid easy that Sony will fix it right away.

Quote
Just when your fingers are getting sore and your friends keep asking 'Why do you have to switch memory sticks?' Killer-X and the PSP-Dev team have answered our prayers with KXploit, a way to run homebrew on 1.5's... Minus the memory stick swap!

The predecessor of Swaploit, users will now enjoy no more jammed fingers or broken nails with the introduction of "Direct Loader", and 1.5 users can now pretend they own a 1.0.

One of our users, Gavin King (Thanks), posted a comment on how to do this in its simplest form:

        "If any of this confused you.... just do the same thing you did with swaploit, but put both folders on the same memory.

        Let's use your NES folder as an example.

        Your MS1 folder name "NES%" and your MS2 folder leave it the same, naming it "NES".

        And that's all you need to do... a simple rename and move."

Quote from: Slashdot Whore
The PSP bootloader checks the folder on the memory card (FAT format) for signed code. If it finds unsigned code, it refuses to boot. (http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=153724&cid=12894881)

The PSP OS does not check for signed code. It assumes the bootloader has done its job. It just runs whatever code it finds.

Fortunately the PSP bootloader FAT driver and the PSP OS FAT driver don't work the same. The bootloader ignores % signs in folder names. So if you create a folder "FOO" containing NO code, as well as a folder "FOO%" containing homebrew code, then the PSP will happily boot and run your code from the "FOO%" directory. Simply place both the directories on the card and try to play the code in "FOO%".

NB: bootloader in this context isn't quite the same thing as bootloaders on PCs.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 23, 2005, 06:04:04 PM
So? You should be able to run anything you want on your PSP. I'm going to get shirts made that say "1.50 4ever."

I'll tell you the #1 thing I want made for a PSP: a video player that will run at 480x272.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Aenovae on June 23, 2005, 06:23:39 PM
Badass.  I'm gonna pick up a PSP tomorrow.

I have lots of questions:

- Do I need to get some kind of "warranty" from EB or Best Buy in order to exchange it for one without dead or stuck pixels?
- Screen protector is a must, right?
- Is it better to get a 1GB stick now or just wait for the 2GB sticks later?
- Do I need to buy a PSP<->USB cable, or does the PSP box come with one?
- I'll probably get Lumines, Wipeout Pure, and maybe Hot Shots Golf and Untold Legends.  Any others that I'm forgetting?


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 23, 2005, 06:42:49 PM
- Do I need to get some kind of "warranty" from EB or Best Buy in order to exchange it for one without dead or stuck pixels?
- Screen protector is a must, right?
- Is it better to get a 1GB stick now or just wait for the 2GB sticks later?
- Do I need to buy a PSP<->USB cable, or does the PSP box come with one?
- I'll probably get Lumines, Wipeout Pure, and maybe Hot Shots Golf and Untold Legends.  Any others that I'm forgetting?

In Order:
1. Buy it at EB. When they come out with special editions, assuming all firmwares are hacked, you can trade it in and get the special edition one without it even being broken. You'll just pay to put a warranty on the new one. The insurance is basically a 1x thing at EB.
2. I don't use a screen protector. I scratched my screen putting it on.
3. 1GB seems to be more than enough.
4. You need a cable. $9.99 a all major outlets.
5. Those are good titles. Ridge Racer is better than Wipeout Pure.

Anything else?


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Aenovae on June 23, 2005, 07:05:03 PM
Sweet, thanks.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 23, 2005, 07:30:31 PM
The Genesis Emulator is PERFECT.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: MrHat on June 24, 2005, 03:13:11 AM
The Genesis Emulator is PERFECT.

Still wish this came out BEFORE I came to Europe.

Bah, w/e I'll be in the States next week and hook myself up.

In the meantime, been playing modded XBox at my friend's place.  Mmmmm Paperboy.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Shockeye on June 24, 2005, 08:42:16 AM
In the meantime, been playing modded XBox at my friend's place.  Mmmmm Paperboy.

You can play that without a modded Xbox. Midway Classics Volume 1.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Aenovae on June 27, 2005, 12:14:12 PM
I finally got my PSP and I must say, this bad boy is sexy as hell.  Lumines, Wipeout, and Hot Shots Golf are well worth their price, but Untold Legends is completely worthless - no matter how desperate you are for RPG action on a handheld.

The guy at Best Buy was very helpful and let me open the box right there in the store.  Fortunately, mine had no dead or stuck pixels - score!

Unfortunately, it's a newer PSP with 1.51 firmware, not 1.50.  Which means I can't run any emulators on it until some intrepid hacker cracks the new firmware.

Until then, Hot Shots Golf is more than adequate to keep me occupied.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: Rasix on June 27, 2005, 12:21:26 PM
Playing Earthbound on my PSP is unmitigated JOY. JOY JOY JOY.   The SNES emu still needs to be a bit faster (it handles EB moderately well), but the NES one is just fantastic.



Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 27, 2005, 05:41:57 PM
Unfortunately, it's a newer PSP with 1.51 firmware, not 1.50.  Which means I can't run any emulators on it until some intrepid hacker cracks the new firmware.

Return it. Get a used one from an EBGames. Their service plan makes it well worth the price.


Title: Re: You had me at Hello World.
Post by: schild on June 28, 2005, 11:11:21 AM
Confirmed: Virtua Tennis doesn't have infrastructure mode.

What, no web play? Baby Jesus weeps.