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Title: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: schild on June 09, 2005, 09:46:12 PM
Cast (in credits order) 
Tom Hanks ....  Robert Langdon
Audrey Tautou ....  Sophie Neveu
Ian McKellen ....  Sir Leigh Teabing
Alfred Molina ....  Bishop Aringarosa
Jean Reno ....  Bezu Fache
rest of cast listed alphabetically:
Paul Bettany ....  Silas

Oh my god. Ok, the Da Vinci Code was terrible, shoddy bullshit wrapped in a big thick cover and sprawled across about 500 too many pages. That said, it's quite obvious that book was made solely to become a movie. This cast makes my inner movie fanboi drool all over itself. Paul Bettany? Yes, plz. If you didn't know - Paul Bettany can make ANY movie better. Alfred Molina? Don't just judge him on Dr. Octopus. He was brilliant in Coffee and cigarettes. Jean Reno. He and Audrey Tautou need no props.

I know this is old news but goddamn does Hanks have an amazing cast behind him.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Viin on June 09, 2005, 10:02:00 PM
I think I'm boycotting this movie just 'cause the book stunk and the author has totally "sold out".

Tell me the movie was amazing and I'll rent it.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: schild on June 09, 2005, 10:11:50 PM
No no, you see, I'm convinced now. The book sucked because it was a money grab for a screenplay. They have a decent screenwriter come in and make it palatable. Makes perfect sense.

Dan Brown sucks. Paul Bettany doesn't. It's easy math.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Murgos on June 10, 2005, 05:34:37 AM
I've been boycotting the book because every half-brained twit I know has recommended it to me.  I figure if thats the type of person who finds this book deeply thought provoking and powerful then I should abstain because it's likely to be seriously damaging to my ability for cognizant thought.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Ironwood on June 10, 2005, 06:24:43 AM
Dan Brown can't write.

And I refuse to enter another discussion where Schild has an outlook on a movie.  It just gets pointless...


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: schild on June 10, 2005, 07:11:19 AM
Dan Brown can't write.

And I refuse to enter another discussion where Schild has an outlook on a movie.  It just gets pointless...

LOOK AT THE CAST! Aside from Tom Hanks who I just want to Go Away (TM), that cast is positively wonderful. I would be happy to pay money down for that movie if it were a biopic about three unfortunate children hit by mustard gas back in WWII. That's just a good fucking cast, man. Ts'all I'm saying.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: TheWalrus on June 10, 2005, 08:15:12 AM
You can polish a turd all you want, but at the end of the day all you have is a shiny piece of shit.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Ironwood on June 10, 2005, 08:32:57 AM
You can polish a turd all you want, but at the end of the day all you have is a shiny piece of shit.

What he said.

Did Lucas teach you nothing ?


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Ironwood on June 10, 2005, 08:35:16 AM
Quote from: IMDB

Ewan McGregor ....  Obi-Wan Kenobi
Natalie Portman ....  Padmé
Hayden Christensen ....  Anakin Skywalker
Ian McDiarmid ....  Supreme Chancellor Palpatine
Samuel L. Jackson ....  Mace Windu
Jimmy Smits ....  Senator Bail Organa
Frank Oz ....  Yoda (voice)
Anthony Daniels ....  C-3PO
Christopher Lee ....  Count Dooku


LOOK AT THE CAST! Aside from Jimmy Smits who I just want to Go Away (TM), that cast is positively wonderful. I would be happy to pay money down for that movie if it were a biopic about three unfortunate children hit by mustard gas back in WWII. That's just a good fucking cast, man. Ts'all I'm saying.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: AOFanboi on June 10, 2005, 08:45:26 AM
Alfred Molina? Don't just judge him on Dr. Octopus.

Why not? He gave an excellent Doc Ock interpretation. Just because some comic versions of the Doc makes him look more square-faced does not mean he has to be. The "intelligent arms" plot device was not the actor's fault.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: shiznitz on June 10, 2005, 09:29:02 AM
It is one thing to take a book with a lot of visual potential and turn it into a movie, but The DaVinci Code is 99% about the scholarly mystery. Reading Fellowship of the Ring doesn't ruin the movie because of the tremendous visual element added on film. The same thing applied to Jurassic Park.

What about this book screams movie (other than its monetary success)? What does a film version add? No one reads The DaVinci Code twice since the mystery is the whole point.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: WayAbvPar on June 10, 2005, 09:31:45 AM
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Audrey Tautou ....  Sophie Neveu


I always pictured Sophie Marceau while I was reading it. Although to be honest, I picture Sophie Marceau a lot  :evil: :evil: :evil:


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: HaemishM on June 10, 2005, 09:34:19 AM
Alfred Molina? Don't just judge him on Dr. Octopus.

Why not? He gave an excellent Doc Ock interpretation. Just because some comic versions of the Doc makes him look more square-faced does not mean he has to be. The "intelligent arms" plot device was not the actor's fault.

I thought Molina did a great Doc Ock, and had no problems with the intelligent arms thing. Molina is one of the better and more versatile character actors out there, IMO.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Shockeye on June 10, 2005, 09:51:07 AM
Alfred Molina? Don't just judge him on Dr. Octopus.

Why not? He gave an excellent Doc Ock interpretation. Just because some comic versions of the Doc makes him look more square-faced does not mean he has to be. The "intelligent arms" plot device was not the actor's fault.

I thought Molina did a great Doc Ock, and had no problems with the intelligent arms thing. Molina is one of the better and more versatile character actors out there, IMO.

He wasn't too shabby in "Maverick", either.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Mortriden on June 10, 2005, 09:57:59 AM
Alfred Molina? Don't just judge him on Dr. Octopus.

Why not? He gave an excellent Doc Ock interpretation. Just because some comic versions of the Doc makes him look more square-faced does not mean he has to be. The "intelligent arms" plot device was not the actor's fault.

I thought Molina did a great Doc Ock, and had no problems with the intelligent arms thing. Molina is one of the better and more versatile character actors out there, IMO.

He wasn't too shabby in "Maverick", either.

Wasn't he also in Boogie Nights?


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Daydreamer on June 10, 2005, 10:47:18 AM
Yes (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000547/)


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Shockeye on June 10, 2005, 10:53:21 AM
Quote
Cabin Boy (1994) (uncredited) .... School Professor


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Bunk on June 10, 2005, 01:00:20 PM
He was also in the masterpiece "Dudley Dooright"

In the opening bankrobbing sequence, I'm the bandit with the ponytail (was a long time ago) on the steps to his left nodding my head..

Not that anyone will ever see this, since I've never even seen the shitasticular movie available on DVD. He did play a very convincing Snidely Whiplash though.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Ookii on June 10, 2005, 01:09:02 PM
I know this is old news but goddamn does Hanks have an amazing cast behind him.

I posted this January 24th: http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=1959.msg52268#msg52268

Just sayin.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Fargull on June 10, 2005, 01:45:35 PM
Tom Hanks is golden.  I am finding Schild and I agree about zero on movies.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: WindupAtheist on June 10, 2005, 01:59:54 PM
I've rented many a semi-crappy French action movie on account of Reno, and McKellan was fucking BRILLIANT as Gandalf, but the story and the rest of the cast are pure blah.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: schild on June 10, 2005, 07:32:34 PM
Tom Hanks is golden.  I am finding Schild and I agree about zero on movies.

Impossible, I've seen just about every movie possible - if it's out on a video format. There has to be SOME crossover. Maybe 1 or 2?

And you can polish a turd to be more than shit. Paul Bettany did it for Knight's Tale. Shannyn Sossamon being pretty helped too.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Fabricated on June 12, 2005, 01:18:35 AM
What's the Davinci Code about anyway? The same kind of people who read the fucking AWFUL Left Behind series have been recommending it to me, and that's why I've sayed way the fuck away from it.

That, and I don't really read novels anymore.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Rasix on June 12, 2005, 01:38:15 AM
What's the Davinci Code about anyway?

Some old guy gets murdered, leaves behind clues. 
Some intellectual guy(Capt. Harvard) and the murdered guy's granddaughter(Sophie) solve clues to uncover a secret known only by a secret society that has kept it clandestine for a long long time.  It's religious, it has to do with Mary.
An evil albino chases Capt. Harvard and Sophie during their trek.
TWIST.
Happily ever after.

It's very formulaic, but to someone that hasn't read a lot of Dan Brown, it would likely be very exciting.  If you've read Angels and Demons, it's 600 pages of deja vu.  It's religious version of a Clive Cussler book: completely on rails, resembles a filled in mad-lib, easy and enjoyable to read.

Not a bad waste of time, but not quite robot jesus that some people (that don't read a lot normally) proclaim it to be. 





Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Shockeye on June 12, 2005, 10:32:18 AM
A much better book is Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: HaemishM on June 12, 2005, 11:21:58 AM
Some intellectual guy(Capt. Harvard)

Please tell me that character's name is your idea of a joke. Because, that's on the level of Count Fucking Dooku or Dexter Jettster. Or is it supposed to be hopelessly and unfunnily Alanis Morrisette Ironic?

Just sayin'.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Rasix on June 12, 2005, 02:43:08 PM
Joke, his name as mentioned in the first post is Robert Langdon.  I just call him Captain Harvard because they always go to great lengths to mention his intellectual background and  Brown always has him doing some sort of near super human activity in every book.  Like in Angels in Demons he survives a fall out of a helicopter from way high up.

Edit: Angels and Demons would have made a better movie. 


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: MahrinSkel on June 12, 2005, 03:00:53 PM
I have not read the Davinci Code, but I bet I know what the punchline to the "mystery" is: Jesus didn't really die, he was smuggled out of Judea to France or Spain, where he and Mary Magdelene had kids.  The secret society is "protecting" the only objective proof of this, rather than destroying it and letting the whole damned mystery be just one more ridiculous conspiracy theory.

How'd I do?

--Dave


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Samwise on June 12, 2005, 03:02:45 PM
Pretty damn close, except not quite as exciting.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Jdub on June 12, 2005, 03:52:34 PM
Also, Dave was wrong on the lack of death, and smugglage of Jesus. In the book's history Jesus and MM have a relationship over a period of years while he's preaching the good word and whatnot.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: schild on June 12, 2005, 04:47:34 PM
Digital Fortress feels more like a movie than A&D or Davinci Code.

That's to say it's dumb as shit and should have gone straight to theatres. Putting that shit on paper is a waste of trees.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: voodoolily on June 12, 2005, 08:47:37 PM
Audrey Tatou was adorable in Amelie and that other so-sweet-it-hurts-yer-teeth flick, but she was pretty meh in Dirty Pretty Things. I didn't read the book, but I'd hazard a guess that the only way she could pull off the (or any) character is if she's demure and gives lots of innocent sidelong glances and bites her lip and shit.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: schild on June 12, 2005, 08:48:45 PM
Women should bite their lip in every movie. It's just about one of the most cute things a girl can do. I probably wouldn't think that if most of my generation didn't have the skillset "Shitty Actor."


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: voodoolily on June 12, 2005, 08:49:59 PM
Agreed. What ever happened to the triple threat? Any more, the only way an actress can skyrocket her career is to have an amazing set of tits and show 'em.

Edit: And speaking of triple threats, can we take this opportunity to make fun of Hugh Jackman for trying to out-diva Aretha muhfuh Frankiln?


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: schild on June 12, 2005, 08:56:17 PM
Paul Bettany and Clive Owen are triple threats. Unfortunately, today, the third threat is "accent."


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: voodoolily on June 12, 2005, 08:57:13 PM
Yeah, the ability to dance has been rendered somewhat impotent, what with musicals being gay and all.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: schild on June 12, 2005, 09:11:28 PM
Mel Gibson definately peaked dancing to, I think it was, Mack the Knife in What Women Want.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Pococurante on June 13, 2005, 11:15:54 AM
It's very formulaic, but to someone that hasn't read a lot of Dan Brown, it would likely be very exciting.  If you've read Angels and Demons, it's 600 pages of deja vu.  It's religious version of a Clive Cussler book: completely on rails, resembles a filled in mad-lib, easy and enjoyable to read

Well said.  And I read Cussler books.  Sometimes I like a mindless retro-adventure in the 1960's silly vein.

Brown's next book is an expose on us Masons.  I'm all a-flutter with apprehension.  I suspect it will have all the historical depth of National Treasure...  :roll:


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Furiously on June 13, 2005, 11:41:52 AM
I watched National Treasure this weekend. I kept waiting for the guy that had been with him the whole time to "suddenly" turn into the bad guy.

Other then that - it was a perfect adaptation of a Brown book... Only he didnt write it.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Fargull on June 13, 2005, 11:56:42 AM
National Treasure was okay, reminded me of The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes, and fited about that mentality.  Course, Russell is a much better actor than Cage.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Shockeye on June 13, 2005, 01:23:15 PM
I enjoyed National Treasure very much because I knew going in it was going to be stupid and I turned my brain off at the ticket counter.


Title: Re: A recipe for movie success.
Post by: Pococurante on June 13, 2005, 01:32:19 PM
That's pretty much how I approach every movie theatre.  Hence why I'm never disappointed and have a nice mental vacation for ninety minutes.  When I want art I pick up a book or go to a play/museum.