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Title: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Johny Cee on April 03, 2005, 09:54:29 PM I'm not a huge TV watcher. This really hurts, cause I don't have the time to separate the wheat from the chaff. So, looking for some recommendations from folks.
So far on the viewing schedule: Deadwood (Sunday at 9pm, HBO) -- Damn. Makes me want to take a shower after watching. Some great setups, some very fine characters. Robot Chicken (Sunday at 11:30, Cartoon) -- This is a show that I watch, and then find myself cracking up about days later. Provides hours of conversation with some of my buddies. Battlestar Galactica (Friday at 10pm, Scifi) -- Great drama in a scifi background. It reminds me of the old scifi stuff, like Twilight Zone, before the advent of boring techno babble. I've been trying to catch Rescue Me, but damn if I can find when it's regularly on. Dennis Leary really knows how to throw sympathetic and tragically flawed characters at you. Managed to catch season 1's final episode, and his little monologue about 9/11 and the public spotlight was good stuff. So... anything else? I'm already kicking myself about missing the first few episodes of Lost, and am pretty much waiting for the DVDs. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Abagadro on April 03, 2005, 10:11:49 PM The Shield on F/X, Tuesday nights.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Paelos on April 04, 2005, 06:28:12 AM I like LOST on ABC which is on Wednesdays @ 8 EDT. Jumping into it now would be impossible though without reading some of the recaps they post on ABC.com or TWoP. Really, so far its mostly been character background and a few questions posed about why these people are on this island. Most of them have shady pasts, but some just seem to be victims of circumstance. Hurley makes the show. He's a hero for fat guys everywhere.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: TheWalrus on April 04, 2005, 08:07:53 AM Monday, Vegas & Medium
Tuesday, Scrubs and anything but The Office. Wednesday, West Wing Thursday, Soon to be some new show I can't remember. (Revelations maybe?) Friday, SciFi stuff. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: schild on April 04, 2005, 08:11:01 AM Time to crucify myself.
Alias Lost Smallville Gilmore Girls Robot Chicken Grey's Anatomy - I think, maybe. It seems like it could get better. Girly like Gilmore Girls though. YMMV. Numb3rs, it's got a cuter gimmick than most shows. Title sucks though. Desperate Housewives 24 I've no clue what day this stuff comes on as I don't watch it on TV. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on April 04, 2005, 09:27:23 AM Most of the highlights have been hit. I'd recommend House on Fox, Tuesdays at 9pm EST. Good character development, interesting presentation.
I don't think Rescue Me has started its second season yet. I'd recommend Carnivale, but it just ended its second season on HBO and it doesn't look like it will return. Find a good torrent site for the second season, rent or buy the first season on DVD. It's good, freaky and slow. Also, watch the rest of the Adult Swim lineup after Robot Chicken. Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Sealab, and Harvey Birdman are all top-notch. Tom Goes to the Mayor is total shit. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Bunk on April 04, 2005, 09:32:51 AM Currently for me (sports not included):
Lost Wrestling (hey, at least I didn't try to claim it was Sports) Drawn Together (a must see if - most politically incorrect cartoon I've seen. Last episode was about a Disney Princess shitting on pizza) Was watching 24 - losing interest. I'll watch L&O or CSI on occasion when bored. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on April 04, 2005, 09:42:56 AM IMHO, Deadwood is bad Shakespeare set in the wild west. But that's just me.
Recommendations: The Shield - totes! Scrubs - hells yeah! The OC - don't knock it 'til you tried it! Chapelle's Show - no shit, Sherlock! Good Eats - fo shizzle! And it's on every damn night! Wonder Shozen - again: this shit is wrong-funny. Don't listen to Haemish. The Daily Show - how else am I supposed to get my current events? (sadly, I'm not joking) If you wanna rent some DVDs, why not start with Six Feet Under? Season 5 (? or 4?) won't start until like, June, so you have plenty of time. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Rasix on April 04, 2005, 09:49:21 AM Don't watch 24 unless you really dig train wrecks. That show has been a parody of itself since the end of season 2. Drawn Together... I'll pretend you didn't mention that. I don't really enjoy Adam Corola's humor, but if you do, I guess this show is perfect for you.
I watch very little TV anymore, but here's what I do: Sunday: Deadwood (been a little off this year, this last episode was an improvement), Arrested Development (amazing show, funniest on TV) Monday: (Monday sucks). Tuesday: Veronica Mars (watch with the wife), The Office (tivo'd, it's pretty decent so far, but it's cringe humor, not for everyone) Wednesday: Lost (best show on TV), South Park Thursday: CSI (the Las Vegas one, the new Miami and New York ones BLOW). Friday: (Friday sucks, but if there's a good Fox show on that's going to be cancelled, here's where it'd be). Saturday: (see Friday). Patiently awaiting new Six Feet Under, Sopranos (a season away), Curb Your Enthusiasm, and the new Rome series on HBO. A lot of stuff I watched has been cancelled or hit its series end in the past couple of years so I spent a lot more time reading or playing video games while my wife watches crap I can't stomach. Edit: Quote IMHO, Deadwood is bad Shakespeare set in the wild west. But that's just me. It would seem that way if you've only watched this year. They really Shakespeared up the first episodes of this season, complete with random fucking soliloquys and completely out of place language. They did this sort of crap a lot with Doc Cochram last season. They've been trying to make mountains out of molehills and it just isn't working. Here's hoping that the action picks up, the language dumbs down (they did a MUCH better job with the dialog this last episode), and shit starts happening. I don't want to sit through another languid season of a show that's otherwise top notch (see Sopranos). Last season was a lot better. Stuff happened. This season's still good, it just needs to get on the rails. Edit dos: Really wish I had started watching Carnivale or The Wire. I should kick myself for not taking full advantage of my HBO. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on April 04, 2005, 10:01:11 AM Last season was a lot better. Stuff happened. This season's still good, it just needs to get on the rails. Edit dos: Really wish I had started watching Carnivale or The Wire. I should kick myself for not taking full advantage of my HBO. Will keep that in mind (I watch for the husboyfriend anyway). Carnivale, unfortunately, has left a similar bad taste in my mouth. I think I just want it to be a cross between Geek Love and Twin Peaks. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on April 04, 2005, 10:18:54 AM Some of my Tivo Season Passes-
Arrested Development (funnier every time I watch it) Scrubs Two and a Half Men (Charlie Sheen basically plays himself, which is funny) Lost Deadwood (just started watching this, but am getting into it) Rescue Me World Poker Tour Joan of Arcadia (my wife likes it, so we have something to watch together. It is a pretty good show that doesn't beat you over the head with religion, if that can be believed) Curb Your Enthusiam Good Eats Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Fargull on April 04, 2005, 11:04:20 AM Lets see..
I spend the vast majority of my TV watching with my 4 year old son, so Power Rangers, Teen Titans, and a steady diet of SpongeBob. Yes, I am dooming myself. Outside of that, I catch the occassional CSI. Since Buffy and Angel left the air, I just don't turn on the idiot box that much. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: SirBruce on April 04, 2005, 11:15:27 AM My TiVo Season Passes, minus the news shows and stuff:
Battlestar Galactica Star Trek: Enterprise (soon to be deleted) Boston Legal The West Wing Justice League Unlimited Teen Titans House ER (I should probably delete this; this season has been crap) Pardon the Interruption (for sports fans) South Park Robot Chicken Sealab 2021 Aqua Teen Hunger Force The Simpsons Family Guy (new episodes starting soon!) American Dad Home Movies (I know it's old, but I think it's funny, and I still haven't seen all of them) The Sopranos (no new episodes yet) Dead Like Me (cancelled, sigh) Father of the Pride (Also cancelled?) Drawn Together (Ditto?) The Office (the new one, just to see if it's any good) Penn & Teller: Bullshit (essential viewing if you get SHOWTIME) As for stuff not on my TiVo, I'll watch Buffy and Angel in reruns from time to time, but I've seen them all. Ditto Deep Space Nine on Spike TV. Sometimes I'll also catch CSI or Law & Order but not regularly. Bruce Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: stray on April 04, 2005, 11:33:09 AM I've heard you mention from time to time that you have bad luck with dating and such, Bruce.
Think it might be because you watch too much TV? :wink: Damn man, are you even getting out of your house at all? Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: SirBruce on April 04, 2005, 12:00:52 PM Actually, with all the re-runs and such, that's only about 10-15 hours of TV a week.
When I get out of the house, it's usually to go to someone else's house, to watch DVDs or go see a movie or dinner or whatever. :) Bruce Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Triforcer on April 04, 2005, 12:47:36 PM I enjoy Joan of Arcadia and JAG on CBS Fridays. And in a couple weeks the former is finally introducing Satan, which should move stuff to more witty John Glover/Brimstone type conversations.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Murgos on April 04, 2005, 01:20:50 PM I watch almost no TV on a regular basis. If I need a break then I pretty much just watch NOVA, Nature or MythBusters if they are on or a movie if there is a good one on and otherwise I will find something else to do.
Football if its in season and also boxing. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Abagadro on April 04, 2005, 01:21:24 PM JAG on CBS Fridays. I didn't realize you were a 45 year old woman. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: El Gallo on April 04, 2005, 01:25:51 PM I can think of two things that make that show pretty decent. Three if you include her face.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Bunk on April 04, 2005, 02:25:35 PM One issue of Maxim from five years ago will save you the effort of watching that drivel every week though.
Last I heard they are doing another season of JAG, just without the fircken star... Ok then. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Otis on April 04, 2005, 03:37:50 PM Quote Good Eats Totally. Even if you don't cook much, check it out. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Viin on April 04, 2005, 04:23:33 PM I can't believe no one mentioned The Venture Bros (http://www.tvtome.com/VentureBrothers/) (Cartoon Network). Burn in hell!
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: SirBruce on April 04, 2005, 05:41:21 PM I don't find Venture Bros funny enough to watch on a regular basis.
Bruce Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Johny Cee on April 04, 2005, 09:00:25 PM Yah, watched Venture Bros. while it was on. Knowing Cartoon Net, new episodes willl dribble out over the course of the next two years....
Chapelle Show is also great. Funny as hell, with a great undertone of political commentary. Sopranos, of course. But I swear we elect Presidents more often than that show comes out with new seasons. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Margalis on April 04, 2005, 09:27:31 PM 24 is one of the most overrated shows in existence. It was at self-parody by episode 3. Is that possible?
I don't watch any shows on a regular basis, but when watching TV I can be found watching: The Shield. Aqua Teen / Venture Brothers / Teen Titans Sometimes Trigun or Cowboy Beebop. (mostly reruns I've seen now) The Ultimate Fighter. (Cool show if you know anything about MMA) ...some other stuff maybe. I don't watch anything on any major networks. Edit: I don't mean that as a badge of honor or anything like that, just an observation. I don't really know what's on network TV at all. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Abagadro on April 04, 2005, 11:00:46 PM Deadwood is picking up nicely as of this week. The first couple of eps were just setting the pieces. Once Al gets back up all hell should break loose.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Trippy on April 05, 2005, 01:53:45 AM Friday: (Friday sucks, but if there's a good Fox show on that's going to be cancelled, here's where it'd be). That is so true -- Wonderfalls being a relatively recent example (get it on DVD). Chris Carter's Harsh Realm was another show I liked that suffered the same fate.Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Paelos on April 05, 2005, 07:00:29 AM It's a shame that Friday sucks so hard for regular TV, because I'm much more likely to relax at home on a Friday night than a Saturday night. Now that baseball is starting though, that won't matter. The Braves will always be on in the background. TOMAHAWK CHOP!
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: schild on April 05, 2005, 07:01:28 AM Chris Carter's Harsh Realm was another show I liked that suffered the same fate. By the 7th Episode of Harsh Realm it seemed like the 2 lead characters were just grinding to get up to a high enough level to beat the final boss. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Big Gulp on April 05, 2005, 07:06:19 AM Arrested Development, Arrested Development, and Arrested Development.
Best show currently on television. Of course it's been under threat of the axe for two years now; we can't have a comedy that rewards intelligence, continuity, and layered jokes. And no laugh track to clue people in on what's funny? That's just the kiss of death. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: schild on April 05, 2005, 07:10:35 AM Best show currently on television. Of course it's been under threat of the axe for two years now; we can't have a comedy that rewards intelligence, continuity, and layered jokes. And no laugh track to clue people in on what's funny? That's just the kiss of death. Every time I hear that I can't help but think of Sportsnight. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on April 05, 2005, 09:43:31 AM Dear God. The laugh track they pasted onto Sports Night was beyond painful. A laugh track would totally ruin AD, just as it did SN. However, if it gets it renewed, it might be a necessary evil. I was late onto the AD bandwagon, but I am fighting my way to the front. I will be driving it soon.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: El Gallo on April 05, 2005, 10:41:14 AM Add me to the Simpsons (blah, blah, no it isn't as good as it once was but it still crushed 99% of the things out there), Arrested Development, Deadwood, Aqua Teen Hunger Force and Curb Your Enthusiasm lists.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: MaceVanHoffen on April 05, 2005, 03:26:02 PM Arrested Development, Arrested Development, and Arrested Development. Oh, and Arrested Development. That is a damn fine show. The whole Blue Man Group thread has me in stitches. That, and the family car being an airplane ramp. Jeffrey Tambor > all. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: MrHat on April 05, 2005, 11:11:16 PM 3 Shows I will not go without are listed already.
Arrested Development Lost Scrubs Southpark Other than that, I've been enjoying: Boston Legal Alias The Office Robot Chicken Desperate Housewives Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Paelos on April 06, 2005, 06:35:52 AM There has yet to be a show on the air that can constantly put me in a laughing fit better than Scrubs.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on April 06, 2005, 10:10:38 AM There has yet to be a show on the air that can constantly put me in a laughing fit better than Scrubs. Remember the one where the janitor asked JD if he was stealing toilet paper? JD: No, I use one of those French things. Janitor: A bidet? JD: Bidet to you, sir. (walks off briskly) God, that still makes me chuckle. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Jayce on April 06, 2005, 11:08:48 AM There has yet to be a show on the air that can constantly put me in a laughing fit better than Scrubs. Odd, because I find it distinctly unfunny and annoying. I was just thinking that last night. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: schild on April 06, 2005, 11:11:33 AM Odd, because I find it distinctly unfunny and annoying. I was just thinking that last night. I think the same thing. I can't really think of a show on the air that has me laughing nonstop. I like a mess of comedy shows, but I like my comedy pointed and specific. And uncommon. I want it to blindside me. I've been told to watch "House" for such a thing. But It's too far into the first season for me to do anything but wait for the DVDs. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Paelos on April 06, 2005, 11:14:23 AM There has yet to be a show on the air that can constantly put me in a laughing fit better than Scrubs. Odd, because I find it distinctly unfunny and annoying. I was just thinking that last night. It's a type of humor you love or you hate. There was a scene in the recent episode when JD is daydreaming about why he's closing a window to seal in information which segues into a messenger monkey making a run for that window in a little hat. Completely bizarre, but primetime comedy is so formulaic to me, i welcome the weird. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on April 06, 2005, 11:22:33 AM That one was on last night, too. Hilarious! And then Eliot's like, "I don't have a messenger monkey".
The best part of that show is all the cut-to-JD-daydreaming sequences. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Viin on April 06, 2005, 03:47:25 PM I can't really think of a show on the air that has me laughing nonstop. Family Guy. Venture Bros (takes a few episodes to really get into it, then it's halirous as all-get-out). And don't forget the Red Green Show! (bleh) Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: SirBruce on April 06, 2005, 03:53:46 PM Yeah, Family Guy is probably the funniest thing I've ever seen on TV. I mean it's packed with gags front to back.
Bruce Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Hoax on April 06, 2005, 03:57:48 PM The Shield is the best thing on TV in my book.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Samwise on April 06, 2005, 04:13:41 PM The best part of that show is all the cut-to-JD-daydreaming sequences. Boy, this is awkward. If only there was some way we could break the ice... (cut to daydream: dancing to "99 Luftballons", room filled with red balloons) Fucking genius. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Margalis on April 06, 2005, 05:03:41 PM The Shield was really good last night. I was starting to get worried because the first couple episodes of this season didn't do all that much for me, but now a whole bunch of plot lines are either forming or accelerating. It seemed like a really long episode too, in a good way. A whole lot of stuff happened.
I'm glad Aceveda (however you spell it) is still taking an active role, and Glen Close is a pretty good ice queen. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on April 07, 2005, 09:17:22 AM The Shield was really good last night. I was starting to get worried because the first couple episodes of this season didn't do all that much for me, but now a whole bunch of plot lines are either forming or accelerating. It seemed like a really long episode too, in a good way. A whole lot of stuff happened. I'm glad Aceveda (however you spell it) is still taking an active role, and Glen Close is a pretty good ice queen. By 'active role' to you mean gearing up to start raping prostitutes? Glenn Close is kicking some ass this season, but I wish Shane would just get the fucking axe already. God that guy is an asshole. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on April 07, 2005, 09:22:20 AM Shane is going to get gacked this season, I can almost guarantee it. I'd lay even odds on either Vick or the blonde cop putting the cap in him. Acevedo is just a tragic story arc, because it seems like he wants to do good, wants to be an angel, but he's just as flawed as Vick, only in a different way.
I didn't mention Venture Bros., but I'm quite happy to find out that they are getting 13 new episodes at some point. That show is one of the best Adult Swim has ever done. But then most of the Adult Swim cartoons are so good, I can watch the episodes 10-20 times and still laugh. They need new Harvey Birdman's bad, though. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on April 07, 2005, 09:34:53 AM Speaking of Adult Swim, I miss Space Ghost Coast to Coast. I can't find the DVD with Warren, the shrub that talks like an old black guy ("Listen! I can burn you like the Crazy World of Arthur Brown!"). Good times.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on April 07, 2005, 10:06:37 AM I wasn't a big fan of Space Ghost Coast to Coast, but they had one line there that has always stuck with me. Something about the catchphrase for a Retarded Kids Foundation: "We moisten your dreams with manurine."
That's one of those amazingly classic lines that still gets me to giggle. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on April 07, 2005, 10:18:11 AM Yeah, Space Ghost is one of those shows that can be totally meh one time and brilliant another. But when it's on, it's spot-fucking-on.
And all the Brak songs are great, too. Especially the one about potatoes and the one about samwiches. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Hokers on April 08, 2005, 01:40:13 PM For you sports fans that have a tivo, or a wierd work schedule, check out Pardon the Interuption on ESPN. Watch a week (it is a daily 30 min show) and you will be converted. Also like Amazing Race, Lost, Arrested Development (they better not cancel it), Battlefield Detectives, Good Eats, BSG. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on April 14, 2005, 10:36:26 AM The Shield was really good last night. I was starting to get worried because the first couple episodes of this season didn't do all that much for me, but now a whole bunch of plot lines are either forming or accelerating. It seemed like a really long episode too, in a good way. A whole lot of stuff happened. I'm glad Aceveda (however you spell it) is still taking an active role, and Glen Close is a pretty good ice queen. By 'active role' to you mean gearing up to start raping prostitutes? Glenn Close is kicking some ass this season, but I wish Shane would just get the fucking axe already. God that guy is an asshole. Hooray! Shane got the shit kicked outta him. Finally! Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Rasix on April 14, 2005, 10:40:53 AM This week's Deadwood was GOOD. Limited amount of Shakespearean dialogue and most of it was before 3 people got murdered.
Somewhat related, I just ordered this shirt. (http://www.glarkware.com/securestore/c188252p16536602.2.html) Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on April 14, 2005, 10:43:25 AM Deadwood was good this week. Nothing quite like dead prostitutes to liven things up a bit.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on April 14, 2005, 11:16:00 AM Yeah, Wolcott had a bit of a nutty. Who is gonna bump him off eventually? Will he and Bullock have a showdown, or will Dan give him an extra-low smile ala Crop Ear?
Oh, and Ms. Isringhausen is a freak. I bet Adams is enjoying the ride. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Paelos on April 14, 2005, 11:46:26 AM Did anybody watch that Revelations thing NBC was running? I had it on in the background, but I was gaming. I saw some kid in a coma talking and an evil looking dude cut off a finger. Was it any good? My impression was boredom.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on April 14, 2005, 12:17:57 PM Yeah, Wolcott had a bit of a nutty. Who is gonna bump him off eventually? Will he and Bullock have a showdown, or will Dan give him an extra-low smile ala Crop Ear? Oh, and Ms. Isringhausen is a freak. I bet Adams is enjoying the ride. I forgot the name of the blonde (only surviving) madame, but I think she's gonna be the one to ice him. Or maybe I just want it to happen. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Rasix on April 14, 2005, 01:35:42 PM It looks like Charlie's at least going to beat the holy piss out of him next episode. W needs to die, so does Cy. But Cy's going to be sticking around for quite a while considering he's the only really despicable evil force at work in the camp right now. Al's evil, but in a likeable fashion.
As for who gets Wolcott? Hmmm, Joanie will do it. Al won't do it because he doesn't want Hearst moving directly against him. I'd like to see it happen in a way that puts due pressure on Cy, possibly having Hearst's wrath brought down upon him, but Cy's a slippery one. God I hate that bastard. The day he actually gets something negative happen to him where he's just not cock of the walk by the next scene, I will jump up and cheer. It's funny that the same actor can end up playing two characters that everyone wants to see dead (Jack McCall, Wolcott). Next season he'll likely come back as some sort of serial livestock rapist. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Samprimary on April 14, 2005, 04:35:30 PM SGCtC was made worthy in the annals of time merely through single, unforgettable episodes, like Knifin' Around.
I approve of Venture Bros. Family Guy is unforgettable, and the DVD sales were good enough to penetrate dense skulls at Fox and make them realize that they had made a mistake. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Alluvian on April 15, 2005, 09:43:29 AM I will second House and Boston Legal, basically as character shows. House just for the lead character's sarcastic assholery, and Boston Legal just for shatner. If either proceed too far down any character arc they could both easily kill the best things about their shows.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: sidereal on April 15, 2005, 11:58:44 AM Limited amount of Shakespearean dialogue Noooo. . that's the best part of the (truly excellent) show. There's nothing like seeing an uneducated dirt farmer bust out with 'Perhaps you could alleviate the poverty of my ignorance by making an assay into the back and locating my shotgun'. Fantastic acting. Calamity's irritating. Bullock needs to shoot more people. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Abagadro on April 15, 2005, 01:24:58 PM Quote It's funny that the same actor can end up playing two characters that everyone wants to see dead (Jack McCall, Wolcott). Wow. I didn't even pick up on that. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on April 15, 2005, 01:44:47 PM I know it's late, but wasn't Zack Braff as the closet nevernude director of Girls With Low Self 'Esteems hilarious this week on Arrested Development?
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on April 15, 2005, 01:47:27 PM My fav part was the quick cut to Buster's prescription bottle- "For hand pain (phantom)". It was so fast I had to rewind the TiVo and pause it. OMG I was rolling.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on April 15, 2005, 01:49:36 PM Or the part when Buster mistook the Franza for a giant juice box? That show is brill.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Shockeye on April 19, 2005, 04:36:11 AM Took this off of Ye Olde Aint It Cool News (http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=19947).
Quote April 19[/u] Dynasty 1.x Miracles 1.x Mystery Science Theatre 3000 Vol. 7 Spy TV 1.x That '70s Show 2.x April 26[/u] Airline 1.x Bless Me Father 1.x Bless Me Father 1.x Crank Yankers 2.x Vol. 1 ER 3.x Highway To Heaven 1.x Land of the Lost 3.x Quatermass Survivor 2.x The Waltons 1/2.x The Waltons 2.x Wildboyz 2.x May 3[/u] Dawson’s Creek 5.x Everybody Loves Raymond 1/2/3.x Everybody Loves Raymond 3.x Gilmore Girls 3.x I Love Lucy 4.x The Job 1.x King of the Hill 4.x The Man Show 3.x The Partridge Family 1.x Star Trek: Enterprise 1.x Three’s Company 4.x Touched by an Angel 2.x May 10[/u] American Chopper 1.x American Chopper 2.x Dastardly & Muttley 1.x Ed, Edd & Eddy 1.x Entourage 1.x Have Gun Will Travel 2.x In Living Color 3.x Joan of Arcadia 1.x Monster Garage 1.x Monster Garage 2.x Mutant X 2.x My Favorite Martian 2.x Quantum Leap 3.x May 17[/u] Adventures of Pete & Pete 1.x Cheers 5.x Clarissa Explains It All 1.x Golden Girls 2.x Monarch of the Glen 3.x Scrubs 1.x Seinfeld 4.x Six Feet Under 1/2/3.x Six Feet Under 3.x May 24[/u] Airwolf 1.x The Andy Griffith Show 2.x Baa Baa Black Sheep 1.x Batman: The Animated Series Vol. 3 Chapelle’s Show (Uncensored) 2.x Combat 4.x The Dick Van Dyke Show: The Complete Series Fat Actress 1.x Law & Order 3.x M*A*S*H 8.x NewsRadio 1/2.x Samurai Jack 1/2.x Samurai Jack 2.x Super Friends Vol. 2 May 31[/u] Danger Mouse 1/2.x Dukes of Hazzard 3.x Home Movies 2.x Moonlighting 1/2.x The Tomorrow People 1/2.x June 7[/u] The Dead Zone 3.x Degrassi Junior High 2.x Dragnet 1967 1.x Father of the Pride 1.x Frasier 5.x Frasier 1/2/3/4/5/11.x Home Improvement 2.x Lois & Clark 1.x MacGyver 2.x Newlyweds Nick & Jessica 2/3.x Quincy 1/2.x Rescue Me 1.x Sanford & Son 6.x The Sopranos 5.x Too Close For Comfort 2.x Wanted: Dead or Alive 1.x Wonder Woman 3.x June 14[/u] Good Neighbors 1/2/3.x The King of Queens 4.x Little House on the Prairie 8.x Northern Exposure 3.x Reno 911 2.x Saved by the Bell II 3.x Tilt 1.x Walker: Texas Ranger 9.x There's some greats show on that list that if you've never seen, you owe it to yourself to add them to your Netflix queue or buy if you're rolling in money. Adventures of Pete and Pete, Lois & Clark, Miracles, Newsradio, Rescue Me, Scrubs, Sledge Hammer! & The Job. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Big Gulp on April 19, 2005, 06:29:21 AM Or the part when Buster mistook the Franza for a giant juice box? That show is brill. They tied up so many lose ends here... Glad they showed why George Sr. is such a malevolent genius by shaving his brother down. They had to get past George and his tea parties up in the attic eventually, this was a good way to do it. Plus we get to see how Oscar reacts to prison life. I don't think he'll dig it as much as George did. Seeing Franklin get the Michael Jackson treatment saddened me. That puppet cracked my shit up. I'm incredibly glad that this show looks like it's going to get another season. I think this is one of those sleeper hits that is just going to keep gaining viewership. Shit, the first couple seasons of Seinfeld weren't exactly ratings bonanzas either, but you keep with it and a good show will eventually become a hit. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on April 19, 2005, 10:17:24 AM Quote It looks like Charlie's at least going to beat the holy piss out of him next episode. I'll say! That was beautiful. I almost wet my pants when he mentioned a "pussified shootin' instrument of some kind". God I love the dialogue on that show. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: schild on April 19, 2005, 10:20:54 AM Shockeye, Veritas: The Quest isn't on that list.
That makes baby jesus cry. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on April 19, 2005, 12:08:57 PM Quote It looks like Charlie's at least going to beat the holy piss out of him next episode. I'll say! That was beautiful. I almost wet my pants when he mentioned a "pussified shootin' instrument of some kind". God I love the dialogue on that show. Deadwood owns me. :) I still haven't watched the first season, but the second season, even though I'm confused about some relationships and over-arching story (the Yankton stuff, mostly), it's still just flat beautiful. I've never heard a more literary use of the word cocksucker in my life. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: MrHat on April 19, 2005, 12:43:59 PM Quote It looks like Charlie's at least going to beat the holy piss out of him next episode. I'll say! That was beautiful. I almost wet my pants when he mentioned a "pussified shootin' instrument of some kind". God I love the dialogue on that show. Deadwood owns me. :) I still haven't watched the first season, but the second season, even though I'm confused about some relationships and over-arching story (the Yankton stuff, mostly), it's still just flat beautiful. I've never heard a more literary use of the word cocksucker in my life. Season One is a must watch H, go rent it now. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: kaid on April 19, 2005, 01:07:16 PM I always die laughing when swearangon and that chinese guy start trying to talk together. A whole conversation using different intonations of the word cocksucker amuses the hell out of me.
kaid Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on April 19, 2005, 01:12:27 PM COCK-SUCKERS!
TWO... THERE WERE TWO COCK-SUCKERS! TWO... TWO COCKSUCKERS! SWERN-GEN, TWO COCK-SUCKERS! As a conoisseur of profanity, I revel in this show. I've got the first season BT'ed, I'm just trying to make it through Carnivale's second season before starting on DW's first. The move has put a serious crimp in my television viewing and game playing. EDIT: Because spelling connoisseur without a dictionary's help is not a good idea. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: kaid on April 19, 2005, 01:14:41 PM I watch both carnival and deadwood and I have to say I enjoy deadwood alot more. I like carnival but sometimes it goes from interesting to just plain weird. I also missed some key episodes in carnival so alot of what happened was only vaguely making sense to me.
kaid Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Shockeye on April 19, 2005, 01:21:55 PM The move has put a serious crimp in my television viewing and game playing. Maybe you should try to not drop televisions. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Rasix on April 19, 2005, 01:22:48 PM Here's another interaction between Al and Wu courtesy of televisionwithoutpity:
Quote In Al's office, the time has finally come for Wu to get his meeting. He explains, in looks and gestures to his drawings, his concerns about the "San Francisco cocksucker [SFC]," Lee. Al tells him he needs to meet this SFC. Wu's mad and frustrated, and not getting it. "Swedgin?! Cocksuckah?! Meet?!" Yeah, Al tells him, Swedgin's got to meet the cocksucker, to see "how much juice he's got behind him." Wu: "JEWS?!" He jumps up, pointing out the window across the thoroughfare to the hardware store, pantomiming that he has a big nose. Al puts his head in his hands. "No, no, no, Wu. No Jews. Forget Jews!" Wu: "NO JEWS?! No Swedgin, no San Francisco cocksucker, no Jew!" He puts his first two fingers together like you do to indicate that you're tight with someone, saying, "Swedgin! Wu! Hang di!" Shaking his head, Al agrees. "Wu and Swedgin, hang di." I have no idea how to find out what "hang di" means, or even how to spell it, so I'm just gonna say it means "BeFri." Wu kicks ass. I hope they have some sort of Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon action between Wu and Lee. The possibility of a full scale asian gang war between Wu's posse and the Tongs has great potential. I have a feeling this season's going to end with a roar. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Johny Cee on April 19, 2005, 08:06:38 PM I like how the Widow Garret and Ellsworth have really emerged as full characters, and forces to be reckoned with. Both were pretty weak during season 1. Now Garret is plotting with the best of them....
Swearengen makes the Shakespear stuff WORK. He can pull off a monologue (or soliliquy? dammit...) to a piece of mail and make it great TV. The best part? Watching some History channel show a few months ago, they mentioned a few other famous Western figures that stumbled into Deadwood..... Bat Masterson should be showing up some day soon. I got to hand it to HBO.... they really know how to rip off ideas. Just like Sopranos was basically a serialization of Goodfellas, Deadwood is a few parts Unforgiven, with a dash of Tombstone thrown in. And yes, Powers Boothe is an evil, evil cocksucker.... Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Sky on April 20, 2005, 07:39:46 AM Oooh, late to this thread! Love Deadwood, best show on tv imo. Much of it is for the same reasons Hammy gives as a cunny sewer of swearology, Swearingen is a master (and I totally agree with his excellent monologues). And such a great character, you can totally see where his nasty nature comes from, with the incompetents he's stuck with (though his right hand cat is probably the best right hand guy in town barring Charlie Utter...and I'm worried about ol' chuck these days...).
Wu is also one of my favorite characters. More than just Al's willingness to try to communicate, I get a laugh out of Al's henchmen's total non-understanding. When Al was laid up and Wu came in to tell them about the San Francisco cocksucker and the henchmen start rolling their eyes when he does the 'COCKSUCKER!' routine. And then the more recent dialogue outlined in the quote above, with the Jew misunderstanding, hilarious. I also agree the Widow is coming along nicely, character-wise. Natural given the shit she's already been through, but it'd be easy for a show to not reflect that. I like how the Mayor (great casting as usual) thinks she's a whore, based on the single (hilarious) liason with Bullock. Great casting, great dialogue (I find myself sometimes using their more formal language, it's fun), great characters. Love the show. Love my DVR and my HD recordings of this entire season, too :) Even with Widow Garrett's pit hair being almost a foot across :p To sum up since I'm new to the thread, shows I watch regular-like: Deadwood (HD) Smallville (HD, back to back, about a season behind) Stargate SG-1 Stargate Atlantis Penn & Teller's Bullshit (HD) C'mon SciFi HD!!! Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: El Gallo on April 20, 2005, 08:47:37 AM I am liking the new season a lot more now that Al is saying more than "AAGGGGHHHHHH." Solid ensamble cast, but he really makes that show tick.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Evil Elvis on April 20, 2005, 09:02:58 AM Deadwood, the Shield, and Robot Chicken.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: kaid on April 20, 2005, 09:15:32 AM I liked it even when all Al was saying was AARRRRGGGHHHH. Damn I would not wish a kidney stone on anybody no matter how evil you are especially not in that time period.
kaid Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on April 20, 2005, 09:25:12 AM The scene were he passed the stones was the most horrifying thing I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Sky on April 20, 2005, 09:47:30 AM I was eating pizza when that scene came on. Almost lost it.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on April 20, 2005, 09:50:47 AM You think that's bad, try spooning on the couch with your hot boyfriend when the Asaveda raping the prostitute scene comes on last week's Shield. No, not hawt. Hell, I don't even have a penis and I went limp.
Edit: never mind the edit. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Sky on April 22, 2005, 12:24:27 PM I don't know how many people have high-def tvs, but one of the HD stations (InHD iirc) is airing the Enron movie (the smartest guys in the room) that's about to debut in theaters tonight. Just a heads-up, I like this new innovation, they plan on doing it several times a year, airing movies on their release day. Cool beans, almost makes me feel ok about my $140 cable bill. Almost.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Abagadro on April 22, 2005, 10:53:13 PM I loved Al's soliloqy talking to the decapitated head of a "Dirt Worshiper" before going to see Utter and his inability to not speak without cursing when talking to Garrett. Great stuff.
Milch kicks so much ass. I hope he can keep it up. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Morfiend on April 24, 2005, 12:17:40 PM Ill second (or third) what a lot of people have said.
Lost Deadwood Carnivale (season over) Shield Nip/Tuck Also for my guilty pleasures. The OC I am very unhappy that Dead Like Me might have been cancled. Im going to go look in to that right now. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on April 25, 2005, 10:10:49 AM I heart the OC. Always have. Seth Cohen FTW!
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Hoax on May 04, 2005, 09:53:48 AM So anyone want to put down odds on Shane surviving this season after last night's episode?
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Furiously on May 04, 2005, 10:01:48 AM I can only hope - they have done a good job of making you hate him. But Vik is such a softy I'm sure they will have a heartfelt exchange. Or he would pop a cap in his ass - I mean Vik can't let him turn him in for all the bad things he's done.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on May 04, 2005, 10:04:24 AM I'd say he's got a one-in-some large number-chance of surviving. I was hoping Mackie was gonna take him out, but then Shane blubbers and pulls the ol' "Aw, gawrsh Vic! I need you!"
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on May 04, 2005, 10:05:22 AM I think you people misread the title of the thread- I am not sure OC counts as good TV. A guilty pleasure, perhaps...
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on May 04, 2005, 10:06:21 AM Oh, c'mon, The Jesus. You know you love the drama.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Furiously on May 04, 2005, 10:34:01 AM I'd say he's got a one-in-some large number-chance of surviving. I was hoping Mackie was gonna take him out, but then Shane blubbers and pulls the ol' "Aw, gawrsh Vic! I need you!" Damn you - I taped it now that I know he doesnt die....I'm a bit sad. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Margalis on May 04, 2005, 05:53:31 PM I love Shane, I hope he survives somehow. His character has always been great. Batshit crazy, weirdly dependent and likable all at the same time.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on May 05, 2005, 08:25:20 AM More like redneckly stupid. I keep expecting him to get capped just for being a dumbass. I'm thinking either him, Armee or Lem buys it by the end of the season.
Anthony Anderson, though, is pulling off a great villain performance. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: MrHat on May 05, 2005, 10:10:00 AM More like redneckly stupid. I keep expecting him to get capped just for being a dumbass. I'm thinking either him, Armee or Lem buys it by the end of the season. Anthony Anderson, though, is pulling off a great villain performance. I vote Armee, he has no depth. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Rasix on May 05, 2005, 10:42:42 AM I have no clue what any of you are talking about anymore. This disturbs me.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Paelos on May 05, 2005, 11:04:50 AM It was about TV, now it's apparently the HBO thread.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on May 05, 2005, 12:16:50 PM Actually, we're talking about The Shield, which is on FX. The Deadwood discussion stopped a few days ago.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on May 05, 2005, 12:19:50 PM And tonight is 2 FULL HOURS of the OC! Squee!!
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Evil Elvis on May 05, 2005, 12:31:44 PM Speaking of Deadwood, I was watching the first season again yesterday, and I realized that the guy who is playing Wolcot this season also played Jack McCall (the guy who killed Wild Bill) in the first seaon.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on May 05, 2005, 12:45:03 PM Stephen Colbert to star in new show (http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/05/tv.comedy.colbert.ap/index.html).
This should be fucking hysterical. More good news at the end of the article- Adam Carolla will have a show as well. Although he is much better at improv than anything prewritten, so we shall see. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on May 05, 2005, 12:53:29 PM Colbert debating Colbert. Fuck, that could be some of the funniest shit ever. I hate that it'll mean less of him on DS, but he deserves it. The man is funny incarnate.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Sky on May 05, 2005, 01:04:01 PM You mean Ted Hitler?
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Rasix on May 05, 2005, 02:02:32 PM Speaking of Deadwood, I was watching the first season again yesterday, and I realized that the guy who is playing Wolcot this season also played Jack McCall (the guy who killed Wild Bill) in the first seaon. I mentioned that on page 2, please try to keep up. And yah, it's hard to pick up unless you take a hard look at his face and visually remove serveral layers of dirt from McCall. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Evil Elvis on May 05, 2005, 03:15:49 PM I mentioned that on page 2, please try to keep up. And yah, it's hard to pick up unless you take a hard look at his face and visually remove serveral layers of dirt from McCall. (http://www.absoluteanime.com/admin/homer-doh.gif) Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Pococurante on May 06, 2005, 08:58:26 AM Colbert debating Colbert. Fuck, that could be some of the funniest shit ever. I hate that it'll mean less of him on DS, but he deserves it. The man is funny incarnate. Yeah but he was beyond awesome as part of the Daily Show ensemble. Good for him personally now that he has his own show but I wonder if a full show of Nothing But Colbert is anywhere near as funny as having talents play off each other. Part of why Daily Show works so well is that it's not just about Stewart. Shows based on a single personality don't seem to last long - faddish, not cash cow. /curmudgeon=off Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on May 09, 2005, 11:45:43 AM Back to Deadwood-
God, I :heart: this show. There is going to be some major bloodshed in the next 2 weeks- Wolcott and Miss Is are my two prime candidates. Watching Miss Is in Al's office realize that she was about 5 seconds from being food for Wu's pigs was awesome. I hope that Hostetler and LNG come back with the horse, and that all is forgiven. Anyone notice the makeup was different this week? Both Trixie and Jane looked much different- not as much dirt and such, I guess. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on May 09, 2005, 11:49:48 AM Jane looked almost feminine in the scene in the whore house before they cut up the fat guy. I love that actor, BTW. He's always good at doing what he does, which is look weasely and weird. He had a great turn in Touching Evil. I'm amazed because of that little eye tic thing he seems to have. I assumed at first that was just an affectation for that part in Touching Evil, but since it appeared everywhere else I've seen him, I believe it's an actual condition. And yet, to get steady work in image-conscious Hollywood. Coolness.
Also, Al is the man. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on May 09, 2005, 11:54:16 AM He has nystagmus (http://www.nystagmus.org/aboutn.html). My fav role for his was as Stinky in Beautiful Girls, but probably just because I have an unnatural affection for that flick. And it is not because of a pubescent Natalie Portman.
At least not ONLY because of her. :-P Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Abagadro on May 10, 2005, 10:57:48 AM Dourif's best role was as Piter Devries. Heh.
Favorite Al line from this week after insulting Jews to Sol (paraphrase): "Well show me the secret fucking handhsake that will prove my apology and let's be on with it." Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: UD_Delt on May 10, 2005, 11:10:56 AM Speaking of Deadwood, I was watching the first season again yesterday, and I realized that the guy who is playing Wolcot this season also played Jack McCall (the guy who killed Wild Bill) in the first seaon. I mentioned that on page 2, please try to keep up. And yah, it's hard to pick up unless you take a hard look at his face and visually remove serveral layers of dirt from McCall. I'd been wondering about this. I missed the first few episodes of season two and missed the part where he arrived and explained who he was. I didn't think it was hard to pick up at all and was wondering if I missed some explanation about how McCall went out, got cleaned up and educated, and came back to deadwood. And the he ends up with Hickock's letter which made me believe he actually did have some relation to McCall... So what you're saying is that McCall and Wolcott are completely unrelated characters who just happen to be played by the same actor? Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Rasix on May 10, 2005, 11:21:30 AM So what you're saying is that McCall and Wolcott are completely unrelated characters who just happen to be played by the same actor? Yep. He's pretty good actor, it's a shame that I hope he gets the Wu special by the end of the episode. Anyhow, but the preview, it looks like there might not be a Wu by the end of the season. This will be sad, as Wu is one of my favorite characters. As long as he utters a "Sweargen. Cocksucka!" as his dieing breath, I'll be happy. Still, I hope he can find a way to live on, but that tall "San Franceesco cocksucka" has a lot of "jews". Great episode Sunday. It's interesting how they're getting Sister-In-Law Wife out of the way just in time for Alma to consider Ellsworth's proposal. It looks like Bullock just can't escape adultery. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on May 11, 2005, 10:00:12 AM So, I watched House last night, and it's coming close to the season finale. There was a moment in there that was just brilliant. For the entire season, we've known that Cameron (the female intern) is "damaged goods" as House says. Last night, we found out why, but the manner of the "reveal" was just so much different than I would have ever expected. It was just handled perfectly.
The show continues to amaze me with interesting stories, and great character moments. Hugh Laurie is the bomb. If you haven't been watching the show, I recommend catching it in reruns or BT'ing the entire season. They also tend to deal with some iffy/touchy subjects in interesting ways. Last night's involved a patient (played by John Cho, the Harold of Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle) who was having mini-strokes. He was also a freakazoid, who liked to be choked for pleasure. His only visitor was a dominatrix who pretty much ran his life. Not a subject we'd see on too many network shows. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Pococurante on May 11, 2005, 10:27:09 AM I've been enjoying the hell out of House. He's my kind of hero. Casting Chi McBride as a villain mildly irked me - I like him too much to see him play the, um, heavy. (NOT A FAT JOKE NOT A FAT JOKE!)
Cutty needs to get laid - her blaming House for giving up the 150 million dollar grant is completely bogus. She and the board were content to toss House - it was only when McBride turned his guns on her directly the board tossed out him and his money. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Shockeye on May 11, 2005, 11:06:20 AM Thought I'd post the bad news for some people here.
Quote from: Variety 'Carnivale' packing up (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117922539?categoryid=1417&cs=1&s=h&p=0) Cabler skein calls it quits By JOSEF ADALIAN HBO's "Carnivale""Carnivale" is leaving town. The mystical Depression-era drama about the battle between good and evil is being shut down after two seasons, HBO confirmed Tuesday. CablerCabler had produced a total of 24 episodes of the skeinskein over its two-season run. HBO entertainment prexyprexy Carolyn StraussCarolyn Strauss said the net had "decided not to renew 'Carnivale' " because the series had come to a natural end. "We feel the two seasons we had on the air told the story very well, and we're proud of what everyone associated with the show accomplished," Strauss said in a statement released by the cabler. lNick Stahl and Clancy Brown toplined "Carnivale," which was created by Daniel Knauf. Howard KleinHoward Klein and Knauf exec produced the series. "Obviously, I'm disappointed," Klein said of HBO's decision. "It's a show I'm incredibly proud of. There are so many positives that came out of this experience." "Carnivale" had its share of strong reviews, and won several Emmys, but didn't draw the universal acclaim generated by other HBO dramas such as "Deadwood" or "The Sopranos." HBO also never really gave the show a break in terms of scheduling or lead-ins, slotting the second season of the show Sundays at 9 p.m. opposite "Desperate Housewives," as well as such big ticket events as the Golden Globes, Super Bowl, Grammys and Oscars. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on May 11, 2005, 11:13:09 AM Hopefully they will use the extra cash to purchase and produce Arrested Development. Fox is too fucking stupid to do anything with it other than cancel it.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Mi_Tes on May 11, 2005, 11:17:37 AM Damn, Carnivale was one of the few shows I liked.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on May 11, 2005, 11:18:44 AM That's a goddamn shame about Carnivale. Well done show, with a few slow bits. I think they could have gotten a decent third season out of it. The story could have ended where it did, but really shouldn't have.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Sky on May 12, 2005, 08:56:52 AM How many damned episodes are there in a Deadwood season!?
My DVR is half full from this season of Deadwood (in HD, admittedly). Not that I'm really complaining. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on May 12, 2005, 09:09:03 AM I think the HBO series have 12 episodes a season.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: kaid on May 12, 2005, 01:17:59 PM I think the cancelling of carnival was not so much about ratings as it was some internal poop going around. Carnival was doing better than a few of the other series that got picked up again and one of the main guys who makes carnival is also making a new series on showtime. I am guessing canceling of carnival was more of a political FU to the guy who made carnival than it was a ratings call.
kaid Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Sky on May 13, 2005, 12:09:29 PM That's bad politics, then. HBO owns Showtime. Nose spiting face and whatnot.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Abagadro on May 13, 2005, 12:15:31 PM That's bad politics, then. HBO owns Showtime. Nose spiting face and whatnot. HBO is owned by Time Warner. Showtime is owned by Viacom. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on May 13, 2005, 12:18:45 PM Perhaps he meant that HBO pwns Showtime. That would be factually accurate :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Abagadro on May 13, 2005, 12:24:56 PM Then he should spell it right. :-P
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Shockeye on May 13, 2005, 12:33:26 PM Quote from: E! Development Resurrected! At-Risk Househusbands Get Desperate! Amazing Dark Side Defeated! (http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Kristin/Archive2005/050513.html) by Kristin Veitch | May 13, 2005 Hallelujah! Arrested Development fans, brace yourselves. I have some good news and--well, you might want to sit down for this--some mind-blowing, earth-shattering, out-of-this-world, fantastic news. Earlier this week, a friend here at E! interviewed Jason Bateman at a charity event with his good friend Ben Stiller. When asked the status of Arrested Development, he lit up like a banana stand: "Actually, great. Supergreat. There is a heartbeat. There is no flatline. And there may be twins. I'm going to let Kristin figure out what that means. I can't comment any further, but there will be an announcement next week." After various calls to Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen, Pamela Anderson and Jennifer Garner's OB-GYN re "twins," I can tell you that Jason's little hint had nothing whatsoever to do with any of those things. And while there are 17 listings for a "J. Bateman" in the local Hollywood white pages, none of them know a damned thing about the fate of Arrested Development. But glory be, after much badgering and pestering, two rock-solid Fox sources, who have never failed me before, caved and gave me the lowdown. Though they're still dotting I's and crossing T's on the final documents, I'm told Fox network and 20th Century Fox studio are "99.9 percent of the way there" to reaching an agreement on the new season. According to these highly placed sources, it looks very likely that Arrested Development will be coming back not only for a full season of 22 episodes but actually two full seasons of 22 episodes. How freaking fantastic is that? At press time, I can tell you this is precisely where the show's fate stands. So, barring any last-minute switch-a-roonies or bad acts by Satan or Rupert Murdoch, we will get glorious "twin" seasons of the best damn comedy on TV. According to these insiders, even though the ratings weren't exactly American Idol numbers, Fox's new prez, Peter Liguori, bless his perceptive little heart, has faith that the show will do well in a different time slot. He also wants to bring AD up to the magical episode number required for syndication and feels the show will do very well in repeats and also in DVD. Can I get a "Hell, yeah!"? That said, not to be a Downer Debbie, but another much loved, little-watched fave isn't likely to be so lucky... Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Johny Cee on May 13, 2005, 09:49:34 PM Never got into Carinvale..... Not sure why.
I think another angle might be cost of production. It wouldn't be the first show shut down despite decent ratings because of the costs of production. Carnivale was set in the Depression, with I'm sure astonishing costs in set and costume. While other shows might have had lower ratings, production costs might have been better. Pretty much, I think period pieces and sci fi have to hit it out of the park or face getting cancelled. Farscape is another good example of decent ratings and cancellation. In that case, it was so the Sci Fi network could free up the huge amounts of capital they plugged into it. Sopranos is set in modern NJ, using many on site locations. I think set/production wise it's dirt cheap. Deadwood is a period piece, but no way HBO is going to throw away the critical acclaim and publicity. They live on having talked about series to plug their movie channel even if ratings aren't what they could be. I'd look for announcement by HBO for either more miniseries and movies, or a couple new series if this guess is anywhere near the truth. I have no idea about Dead Like Me's cancellation. Were ratings that bad? I quite enjoyed that show. Sky: You might want to check to see if you're recording the same episode over and over. Deadwood airs many, many times. The other thing is that HBO likes to rebroadcast earlier episodes in the season back to back for people to catch up. Thank god. I wish more networks would do this. I've been trying to catch Dr. Who on CBC for a while now, if only to relive childhood nostalgia, and can never remember when it's on. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Abagadro on May 13, 2005, 10:14:22 PM Plus, HBO doesn't base programming quite as much around "ratings" as they only care about the number subscriptions rather than if anyone is actually watching the shows. If it doesn't think a show is adding to their brand retention, they will dump it.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Evil Elvis on May 14, 2005, 09:59:54 AM After the last two episodes of Carnivale, I wish I could have been the one to cancel it.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Mi_Tes on May 15, 2005, 05:00:06 PM After the last two episodes of Carnivale, I wish I could have been the one to cancel it. Granted, the last two episodes were a bit "strange" but it wasn't like the rest of the shows weren't leading up to it. It was something different (more original) than most other tv shows. It gets old seeing the same family conflict, friend conflict, law, crime, space, or reality tv show. Given that I had the HBO subscription just for Carnivale and the Showtime subscription just for Dead Like Me, I plan on cancelling both subscriptions because of this news. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Abagadro on May 15, 2005, 07:19:52 PM Two favorite lines from tonight's TV:
"This is the feces that happens when shame eats too much stupid." -Dale Gribble, King of the Hill "Ow I burned my snatch!" -Jane, Deadwood Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Evil Elvis on May 15, 2005, 07:43:24 PM Two favorite lines from tonight's TV: "This is the feces that happens when shame eats too much stupid." -Dale Gribble, King of the Hill "Ow I burned my snatch!" -Jane, Deadwood "You dye your hair?" Deadwood is worth keeping your HBO subscription, though, Mi_Tes. My problem with Carnivale wasn't the way he chose to end it - although it did suck - so much as how he executed the ending. Everything was incredibly rushed, as if he just realised he didn't have another dozen episodes left to do what he wanted to. So, instead we had to suffer watching the cast jump through ridiculous hoops, and characters falling into situations so fast, they felt as hamfisted as just about anything could. I almost stopped watching the moment they devised the ferris wheel plan, so at least I could imagine something cool happening without being spoiled by what they decided to dole out, instead. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on May 16, 2005, 11:14:16 AM "Underarms washed? Cunts braided?"
Al sure can turn a phrase. Have I mentioned that I LOVE Deadwood? Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Rasix on May 16, 2005, 11:28:56 AM Man, Wu looks fucking ANGRY in the next episode. I hope he wins.
Edit: I'm having a hard time reading my posts with this avatar. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on May 16, 2005, 11:39:30 AM Yeah, it would really suck if they killed off Wu. He rules.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on May 16, 2005, 11:50:38 AM I get the feeling Al is going to try to turn the San Fran cocksucker to his side and help him eliminate Wu, simply because the San Fran cocksucker can speak English. Then again, that may have just given him more reason to want to bump off the San Fran cocksucker, since Wu's ignorance of the language is something Al can use against him.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Sky on May 16, 2005, 01:16:43 PM Ahh...the juxtaposition of Hammy's avatar and Wu is nice.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on May 17, 2005, 10:23:45 AM Arrested Development renewed (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050517/tv_nm/fox_dc)
The pigfucker execs at Fox finally did something right! Perhaps there IS a God? Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on May 17, 2005, 10:34:50 AM Hooray! I found about this on Friday. I am a happy camper.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: kaid on May 18, 2005, 01:21:16 PM I think Al will probably like to side with Wu becase Al has a big streak of Fuck the man attitude in him. The balance to this is he also is as pragmatic as all hell and if he needs to do away with Wu to deal with the san fancisco cocksucker he would shiv Wu himself if needed.
kaid Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on May 18, 2005, 02:06:38 PM The previews don't look good- Wu seems to have brought a cleaver to a gunfight. Hopefully it won't cost him.
I am so bitter that the season is over this soon. Arrgh! Title: What ONE thing can make a good TV show great? Post by: Mr_PeaCH on May 19, 2005, 09:23:11 AM LOST. Now with PIRATES! Aarrgh, mateys!! :-D
Anybody else get a kick out of last night's big revelation about "The Black Rock". I about died laughing... sure hope I'm right about the pirates though. :wink: Discuss why ninjas would have been even cooler here: Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: stray on May 19, 2005, 09:28:06 AM LOST. Now with PIRATES! Aarrgh, mateys!! :-D Anybody else get a kick out of last night's big revelation about "The Black Rock". I about died laughing... sure hope I'm right about the pirates though. :wink: Discuss why ninjas would have been even cooler here: Would it still be cool if I haven't seen Lost before? I'd rather just have a show with Pirates ALL THE TIME. Not just for a few episodes. Not a big fan of ninjas. Sho Kusugi, yeah. Ninjas, no. Not even Lee Van Cleef can redeem them. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on May 19, 2005, 09:46:26 AM OMG, did you guys watch the season finale of AMerica's NExt Top Model last night? I'm so happy that Naima won.
(http://www.upn.com/shows/top_model4/images/models/naima/gall/01.jpg) She's proof that some people totally CAN rock a 'hawk (unlike the ugly goth kid from lst month). Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on May 19, 2005, 09:48:27 AM I am stupider having read that post. I can only imagine what viewing the actual show must have done to you.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Shockeye on May 19, 2005, 09:49:28 AM Not even Lee Van Cleef can redeem them. You doubt The Master? (http://doctor-forrester.home.mindspring.com/images/Ep0322-Master-Ninja_LeeVanCleef_still.jpg) Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on May 19, 2005, 09:50:11 AM Not even Lee Van Cleef can redeem them. You doubt The Master? (http://doctor-forrester.home.mindspring.com/images/Ep0322-Master-Ninja_LeeVanCleef_still.jpg) If you look closely you can see the tag of his Depends sticking out. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: stray on May 19, 2005, 09:50:27 AM Not even Lee Van Cleef can redeem them. You doubt The Master? (http://doctor-forrester.home.mindspring.com/images/Ep0322-Master-Ninja_LeeVanCleef_still.jpg) I really hate to. I mean it. But that show was awful. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on May 19, 2005, 09:51:03 AM I am stupider having read that post. I can only imagine what viewing the actual show must have done to you. Guilty pleasure, my friend. Guilty pleasure. I actually just mostly Tivo'd it and would fast-forward to when someone makes the models cry. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on May 19, 2005, 10:12:01 AM You must have hit the Play button often then. I like how they picked Halle Berry's punk-ass clone for the new model.
And thankfully, I didn't watch it and have only been grazed by the stupid. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on May 19, 2005, 10:24:11 AM They do cry a lot. But it's really funny when the fags cut them down.
"Girl, you walk like you on crack." Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on May 19, 2005, 11:27:09 AM You mean, were I to watch this show, not only would I get to watch cardboard wannabes blubber on about how no one loves them and everyone is against them, while stereotypical buttpirates prance about spewing "urban" catchphrases in the gayest way possible?
WHERE DO I SIGN UP? I beileve it's the same line that has the signups for "Smash your nuts with a hammer" lessons. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on May 19, 2005, 11:33:37 AM Dang, Haemish, I'm having nicotine withdrawals and I think you're surly today. Kudos.
In other news, tonight is the season finale of the OC. The mom is a total alkie. And I think Julie Cooper is gonna get arrested for killing Caleb, even though she actually changed her mind about poisoning him at the last minute. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on May 19, 2005, 11:37:39 AM Dang, Haemish, I'm having nicotine withdrawals and I think you're surly today. Kudos. Today? As opposed to any other day? :evil: Reality TV gets me surly. Ask my wife about the Bachelor finale Monday night. She tried to make me watch it and I became SuperDouche. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on May 19, 2005, 11:39:59 AM You are particularly full of the surl. Reality TV does suck the 2-lb. cock of an 80-lb. retard, but models are pretty.
Did you make me a crotchpheasant (I know, you're gonna say I made myself one)? I am honored to have my own title. You all can call me Princess Crotchpheasant. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: blackotter on May 19, 2005, 01:33:30 PM Speaking of Deadwood
Thought this was interesting...didn't realize how much of the show was real. http://www.legendsofamerica.com/WE-DeadwoodHBO.html Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Evil Elvis on May 22, 2005, 11:13:15 PM Deadwood's season finale knocked it out of the park. Best episode of both seasons, and the funniest too. Hell, one of the best episodes of TV I've probably ever seen.
And todays Robot Chicken totally made up for last weeks episode sucking. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Abagadro on May 22, 2005, 11:16:15 PM Wu......America.
Great episode. Major Dad was actually pretty good. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Rasix on May 23, 2005, 09:50:17 AM Wow. Great series of season finales for my sparse TV watching schedule. Veronica Mars delivered what at the time I thought was the best season finale I've ever seen. Then came CSI and it had itself probably the best episode of its 5 year run with a certain T guy directing. Then Deadwood... it was like a TV Christmas List come to life.
*Spoilers below, but do I really need to warn at this time. If you didn't watch it last night you aren't a fan!" Wu wins. Cuts San Francisco cocksucka's throat. Hang-dai! Cy gets close to getting shot to hell. Then gets a knife in the gut. "God will not be mocked!" Al wins the political battle with Yankton I don't give a shit about. Wolcott does himself in. Would have rather seen someone gut him. Major Dad comes across as someone not completely moraly bankrupt. Jane in a dress. Everyone hootin' and hollerin'. I really wish more Deadwood episodes would have been paced like this with this amount of action going on this season. Hopefully next season they can get the ball rolling a bit sooner. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on May 23, 2005, 09:57:38 AM Quote Wolcott does himself in. Would have rather seen someone gut him. Do we know for sure that Wolcott died at his own hands? I would love to see a flashback next season of Hearst and Captain Turner 'encouraging' him into the noose. Loved this episode. EB is getting on my very last nerve. Way more info about his digestive crisis than I ever needed. Tolliver has been playing fast and loose with some very dangerous people, and then gets his from a very unlikely source. Very cool. What happened to Hostetler and the NG? I wanted to see them bring the horse back and face the music. Maybe for the season 3 premiere.... FUCK. No new Deadwood until March. Hopefully they will replay both seasons on HBO so I can see season 1. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: MrHat on May 23, 2005, 09:26:24 PM I was thinking about what I could add to this conversation and came up with this:
I hate the MPAA. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Johny Cee on May 23, 2005, 09:39:52 PM Quote Wolcott does himself in. Would have rather seen someone gut him. Do we know for sure that Wolcott died at his own hands? I would love to see a flashback next season of Hearst and Captain Turner 'encouraging' him into the noose. Loved this episode. EB is getting on my very last nerve. Way more info about his digestive crisis than I ever needed. Tolliver has been playing fast and loose with some very dangerous people, and then gets his from a very unlikely source. Very cool. What happened to Hostetler and the NG? I wanted to see them bring the horse back and face the music. Maybe for the season 3 premiere.... FUCK. No new Deadwood until March. Hopefully they will replay both seasons on HBO so I can see season 1. Yah, I'll bet Wolcott died at his own hands. My prediction is that one story arc is going to be Hearst scrambling to find out if a letter was actually written. By the way, does it look like Powers Boothe put on 30 years from when he did Tombstone??? The real big question for me is what legendary western characters show up next season. Bat Masterson and a few others historically hit Deadwood for a while during it's heydey. There was also a bit of foreshadowing that Alma Garrett's relations will be showing up to try and get her claim. Swearengen referring to Bullock as "His Holiness" was cracking me up. Nice bookend to the season: ending with Al taunting Bullock from the balcony, just as it began. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on May 24, 2005, 09:52:29 AM FUCK. No new Deadwood until March. Hopefully they will replay both seasons on HBO so I can see season 1. MARCH? FUCK. That's as bad as the Shield. Do 13 episodes and call it quits for a year. I agree about the Deadwood finale. It was just fantastic from start to finish. It had a lot less bombast than you expect from season finales, but the quiet moments were where the most impactful events took place. Wolcott's apparent suicide. The signing of the Yankton document. The handing of the letter to Garrett. EB is the Shakespearean foil character, the one who repeats what are essentially stage directions, but gives the actions he's reporting on some context. You don't see that in visual mediums like flim or TV much, because why would you? Just show the action, don't have someone describe it. But it gives a great deal of character moments to the narrative, and gives the audience a new perspective. I like EB. The Shield and House's season finales are tonight. I will miss watching these shows during rerun season, but it'll be nice to have all that time opened up to write and play games. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: El Gallo on May 24, 2005, 02:24:58 PM I think EB is funny as hell in small to moderate doses. I liked everything except W's suicide, jumping out the window in the background while the camera was focused on a largely irrelevant side character. I would have liked to see more focus, especially with the foreshadowing of his suicide with his shaving scene a few weeks back. Wu = chinese-american robot baby jesus.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on May 24, 2005, 03:14:56 PM Conan O'Brien on the future of television (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7935916/site/newsweek/). Couple of funny bits in there.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on May 25, 2005, 08:49:58 AM That Shield episode wasn't the Season Finale. It was good, except for the feeling of a happy ending which tied together a bit too neatly.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Abagadro on May 25, 2005, 09:41:05 AM Based upon the previews, that happy ending will unravel.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Yegolev on May 25, 2005, 01:13:20 PM Quote "You've watched 40 straight hours of 'Sponge- Bob'—get off the weed!" I knew if I read this thread enough, it would eventually pay off. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on May 26, 2005, 08:55:22 AM Anyone else disappointed with season finale of Lost? A bunch of extra (mostly useless) flashbacks, and barely any plot movement? It just seemed like an extra-long normal episode. I wanted to see some sort of resolution on ANY of the plots (although I guess the Arzt plot is pretty much done).
Lost is starting to feel like a 1 trick pony ala Twin Peaks. Doubt it will last beyond next season. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on May 26, 2005, 09:26:38 AM I thought the Lost thing was just about exactly like they have been all season. I did appreciate the flashbacks, because some of them were necessary, like the scene in the bathroom with Jin. The only gratuituous scene was the slow-mo of them boarding the plane at the end. I knew they wouldn't actually show us what was in the hatch, though. That was just too good a cliffhanger to resolve. I'm only hoping it doesn't go all X-Files on us and resolve nothing EVER. I can stand being strung along until the season premiere, but there should be something resolved and revealed.
I imagine some of the backstory scenes were put there because it wasn't originally supposed to be 3-hours for the season finale (the 2 hour show and last week's). Favorite line: "Dude, you got some Artz on you." Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: schild on May 26, 2005, 09:29:38 AM I'm only hoping it doesn't go all X-Files on us and resolve nothing EVER. I can stand being strung along until the season premiere, but there should be something resolved and revealed. You just cut me. Deep. They couldn't resolve anything in X-Files. It was an X-File. 99% of TV wishes it could be as deep or well done as that show. I'm tempted to call you Ms. Thang. But I won't. I'm no X-Files fanboi and will be the first to admit that the show progressively turned to shit after Season 5 and a more than great TV to Movie leap. Lost however, HAS to be resolved. Simply because the series revolves around a resolution (as does all the other JJ Abrams shit). Which is to say, I agree, I hope they don't pull an X-Files, though X-Files had a good reason to do what it did. Lost simply wouldn't. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on May 26, 2005, 09:33:33 AM No, X-Files didn't have a good reason, IMO. Well, other than whoring out the show since it was Fox's only Sci-fi hit. After the movie, which I liked, it just devolved into total shit. Sure, the PREMISE was that the X-Files were unexplainable, but storyteller has to eventually find an ending, or you get silly continuity breaks like superhero comics or you just lose the audience. That show should have ended when Duchovny wanted to leave. Even the Twin Peaks movie, as out there as it was, resolved more of the story than X-Files ever did.
Lost still has time. They could reveal a good bit and still have lots of storytelling room. The characters are so well done, there could be a season worth of character interaction alone. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: schild on May 26, 2005, 09:35:13 AM Maybe I'm the only one who was content with the way X-Files ended. Oh well.
As far as Lost goes, a season worth of character interaction scares me. It didn't work with Alias season 3, I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't work with Lost. When Abrams and crew break from plot driven progression, things tend to get hairy. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on May 26, 2005, 11:23:11 AM Quote The characters are so well done, there could be a season worth of character interaction alone. I could go with a season full of Sun/Kate/Shannon/Claire interaction. Although they might need to move it to PPV to really 'flesh out' the plot. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: schild on May 29, 2005, 05:42:18 PM HOLY FUCKING SHIT!
Season 4 of Alias ended up being one of the greatest seasons of TV ever. I'm fairly certain it's better than Season 4 of X-Files. Not quite as good as season 4-5 of Highlander, but holy god. If you have never seen Alias, JJ Abrams has done something magical. He's produced an ending that makes every seemingly "episodic" episode of Alias mean something. In other words, all those episodes with a certain one of the characters doing something a rather (yes, purposefully vague), meant something. It wasn't just filler. He's a fucking genius and I bow down to him. I haven't seen the end of season 1 of Lost yet, and won't til it's on DVD, but if it's 1/10th of Alias, it's incredible TV. Alias 4x20-4x22 is art though. The highest art imaginable. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Evil Elvis on May 29, 2005, 07:33:47 PM He's a fucking genius and I bow down to him. I haven't seen the end of season 1 of Lost yet, and won't til it's on DVD, but if it's 1/10th of Alias, it's incredible TV. Alias 4x20-4x22 is art though. The highest art imaginable. The Lost season finale was the same as the previous dozen or so episodes: a huge cocktease with tons of flashbacks. I like the character developement, but they better start telling a story at some point. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on May 31, 2005, 09:24:29 AM He's a fucking genius and I bow down to him. I haven't seen the end of season 1 of Lost yet, and won't til it's on DVD, but if it's 1/10th of Alias, it's incredible TV. Alias 4x20-4x22 is art though. The highest art imaginable. The Lost season finale was the same as the previous dozen or so episodes: a huge cocktease with tons of flashbacks. I like the character developement, but they better start telling a story at some point. Yeah, I was pretty disappointed in it overall. Feel free to tie up ANY storyline any time now, kthx. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Shockeye on May 31, 2005, 10:31:04 AM He's a fucking genius and I bow down to him. I haven't seen the end of season 1 of Lost yet, and won't til it's on DVD, but if it's 1/10th of Alias, it's incredible TV. Alias 4x20-4x22 is art though. The highest art imaginable. The Lost season finale was the same as the previous dozen or so episodes: a huge cocktease with tons of flashbacks. I like the character developement, but they better start telling a story at some point. Yeah, I was pretty disappointed in it overall. Feel free to tie up ANY storyline any time now, kthx. Obviously they're studying at the Robert Jordan school of plot resolution. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on May 31, 2005, 10:37:27 AM Quote Obviously they're studying at the Robert Jordan school of plot resolution. AARRGH. Book 11 is coming in October, and he promises 12 will be the last one. The end is in sight! Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Shockeye on May 31, 2005, 10:38:37 AM Quote Obviously they're studying at the Robert Jordan school of plot resolution. AARRGH. Book 11 is coming in October, and he promises 12 will be the last one. The end is in sight! Lies. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Yegolev on May 31, 2005, 11:00:50 AM Quote Obviously they're studying at the Robert Jordan school of plot resolution. AARRGH. Book 11 is coming in October, and he promises 12 will be the last one. The end is in sight! If you hang an earring off of that hook in your mouth, it might be quite fetching. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Sky on June 01, 2005, 03:59:36 PM Quote *Spoilers below, but do I really need to warn at this time. If you didn't watch it last night you aren't a fan!" Well, I didn't catch it for a couple days, but I recorded it on my DVR. Do I get bonus points for having the entire season recorded in HD? :) I'm gettng my new girl into it now, along with Penn&Teller's beloved Bullshit (which she likes alot). Also have all of the last seasons of SG-1 and Atlantis in SD, I heart my DVR. Need more hard disk capacity, stat! The SD stuff isn't bad, but the HD stuff takes up tons of space.Quote EB is getting on my very last nerve. Way more info about his digestive crisis than I ever needed. I see this more like Toliver's attempts at blackmail, it's his defense mechanism, playing the victim. When he has to be devious, that's his M.O.I was pleasantly surprised at Hearst's personality, it was nice to see Toliver and Walcott put in their places. Quote Swearengen referring to Bullock as "His Holiness" was cracking me up. Yeah, great touch.I guess that wraps up my participation in this thread for the year :) Well, maybe when Farscape:SG-1 debuts I'll pop in. I have a baaad feeling about this...but it just might work. But not just Jon Carter, but Sung, too? Wow. Will Pip be in the cast, too (I admit to having the hots for Chiana...bizarre imo). Atlantis should be pretty good, Sci Fi recovered from Farscape fridays quite admirably imo, especially this past season with the three hour marathons every week. Phew. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Shockeye on June 01, 2005, 04:02:11 PM Well, maybe when Farscape:SG-1 debuts I'll pop in. I have a baaad feeling about this...but it just might work. But not just Jon Carter, but Sung, too? Wow. Will Pip be in the cast, too (I admit to having the hots for Chiana...bizarre imo). Atlantis should be pretty good, Sci Fi recovered from Farscape fridays quite admirably imo, especially this past season with the three hour marathons every week. Phew. I miss "The Invisible Man". Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Johny Cee on June 01, 2005, 04:42:42 PM Well, maybe when Farscape:SG-1 debuts I'll pop in. I have a baaad feeling about this...but it just might work. But not just Jon Carter, but Sung, too? Wow. Will Pip be in the cast, too (I admit to having the hots for Chiana...bizarre imo). Atlantis should be pretty good, Sci Fi recovered from Farscape fridays quite admirably imo, especially this past season with the three hour marathons every week. Phew. I miss "The Invisible Man". Fuck yeah! There was something innately funny about a black ops division of the US Governement that no one respects, has budgetary problems, and keeps switching what department they're under..... Sort of the anti-X-files. "Invisible Man" and "Farscape" made a great block of TV. What jackass decided to broadcast most of their seasons Friday night from 9-11 during the summer? Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Margalis on June 01, 2005, 05:15:55 PM Lost is a lot like character generation in a bad MMORPG. Dreaming of how it's going to turn out is better than actually living it. There are a lot of examples of things like that in fiction that have an incredible premise that can't really be lived up to. Setting up some crazy premise allows you to use your own imagination and wonder and dream about how cool it's going to be. The Matrix is one example of how this can come crashing down.
It would surprise me if the creators of Lost really knew where they were going. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on June 02, 2005, 10:00:54 AM Well, maybe when Farscape:SG-1 debuts I'll pop in. I have a baaad feeling about this...but it just might work. But not just Jon Carter, but Sung, too? Wow. Will Pip be in the cast, too (I admit to having the hots for Chiana...bizarre imo). Atlantis should be pretty good, Sci Fi recovered from Farscape fridays quite admirably imo, especially this past season with the three hour marathons every week. Phew. I miss "The Invisible Man". That's a 10-4. I loved that show, but only caught on to it during its last season. Great cast of no-names, cool premise, really pulled off well. I never understood why they shitcanned it for SG-1 personally. And until BSG came out, I had stopped watching anything on Sci-Fi, or as it should be correctly named, Shitty-B-Movie-Channel. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: ClydeJr on June 02, 2005, 12:53:44 PM The Lost season finale was the same as the previous dozen or so episodes: a huge cocktease with tons of flashbacks. I like the character developement, but they better start telling a story at some point. Yeah, I was pretty disappointed in it overall. Feel free to tie up ANY storyline any time now, kthx. They created a website for Oceanic Air (http://www.oceanic-air.com), the airline that the Lost castaways were flying on. There's a few easter eggs on the pages, but not much else. I was hoping it would be something similar to the I Love Bees website for Halo 2. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Shockeye on June 02, 2005, 02:08:44 PM Quote from: Blogs are taking over teh intarweb Samuel L. Jackson gets LOST (http://meggan.typepad.com/quiddity/2005/06/samuel_l_jackso.html) More possible spoilers for LOST. According to imdb, Samuel L. Jackson will be guest starring on LOST as Bernard (Rose's missing husband, I'm guessing). I realize that imdb isn't the best source for casting news, but I'm hoping this rumor is true. I can already hear him shouting, "I'm back, motherfuckers!" Um, unless he only appears in Rose's flashbacks, which would be kind of lame. I'd like to see him kick some ass on the island with the help of Michelle Rodriguez. Here's a link to his IMDB that shows him guest-starring on Lost. (http://imdb.com/name/nm0000168/) Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Johny Cee on June 02, 2005, 02:13:51 PM That's a 10-4. I loved that show, but only caught on to it during its last season. Great cast of no-names, cool premise, really pulled off well. I never understood why they shitcanned it for SG-1 personally. And until BSG came out, I had stopped watching anything on Sci-Fi, or as it should be correctly named, Shitty-B-Movie-Channel. SG-1 grew on me after a while. Maybe because I had amazingly low expectations. I couldn't believe they shitcanned "Invisible Man", and broadcast a long line of completely forgetable series in it's place (Black Scorpion, something-something Jules Verne, that Highlander dude in a shitty new show, the paranormal newspaper one?) I mean BAAAD. The channel has really degraded to the straight-to-video B movie channel. I think alot of this was a programming decision to push most money at a couple of big sweeps airing miniseries (Taken, Earthsea, Dune, etc) instead of licensing and developing their own stuff. Which kind of fucked over their budget for the rest of the year..... Hell, even Lexx wasn't terrible. It was wierd and different, but that can be a good thing when you get tired of seeing Star_Trek_Clone_300. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Shockeye on June 02, 2005, 02:20:10 PM he paranormal newspaper one? I enjoyed "The Chronicle". I also enjoyed "Jake 2.0" on UPN. I have issues. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on June 02, 2005, 02:46:32 PM No, Lexx was fucking awful. I have never understood that show, and after watching a few minutes of a number of episodes, never wanted to understand it.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Bunk on June 02, 2005, 03:23:09 PM Still working my way through Farscape on DVD, love that shit. Waiting for season 2 of Dead Like Me, and of course Sopranos 5. (I think its 5 anyways)
Oh, and Shockeye - your current avatar is even funnier now that I read the article its from. (Frontpage? what's a Frontpage?) Is it sad that I knew she was a Fragdoll before reading that article though? (I'll answer myself, yes - yes, it is sad.) Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Shockeye on June 02, 2005, 03:26:51 PM Still working my way through Farscape on DVD, love that shit. Waiting for season 2 of Dead Like Me, and of course Sopranos 5. (I think its 5 anyways) I thought Dead Like Me got cancelled? Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Bunk on June 02, 2005, 03:28:40 PM It did, but as far as I knew they made two seasons. I've only seen season one.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Mi_Tes on June 02, 2005, 03:43:47 PM No, Lexx was fucking awful. I have never understood that show, and after watching a few minutes of a number of episodes, never wanted to understand it. I agree, I won't even be in the room when Lexx is on. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Shockeye on June 02, 2005, 03:48:44 PM No, Lexx was fucking awful. I have never understood that show, and after watching a few minutes of a number of episodes, never wanted to understand it. I agree, I won't even be in the room when Lexx is on. How often was it on in your house? And have you sufficiently punished whomever was responsible? Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Mi_Tes on June 02, 2005, 04:18:50 PM No, Lexx was fucking awful. I have never understood that show, and after watching a few minutes of a number of episodes, never wanted to understand it. I agree, I won't even be in the room when Lexx is on. How often was it on in your house? And have you sufficiently punished whomever was responsible? Too often since we have TiVo. Yes, another year of him having to watch every Charmed episode with me should do it (even the daily TNT ones). Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on June 02, 2005, 04:19:28 PM Wow...you play hardball! :-D
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Shockeye on June 02, 2005, 04:24:03 PM Too often since we have TiVo. Yes, another year of him having to watch every Charmed episode with me should do it (even the daily TNT ones). My wife makes me watch Charmed as well. At least I was able to wiggle out of Veronica Mars. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Abagadro on June 02, 2005, 06:38:39 PM The original Lexx with Eva Habermann was decent because of Eva Habermann nekkiid.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Paelos on June 02, 2005, 06:44:11 PM Lexx was a beatoff show. If anybody watched it for a plotline their brain went out for a smoke.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Johny Cee on June 02, 2005, 07:44:40 PM Still working my way through Farscape on DVD, love that shit. Waiting for season 2 of Dead Like Me, and of course Sopranos 5. (I think its 5 anyways) Farscape drags a bit early/mid season 4. Then gets back in fine form for the end. The season 2 finale arc is probably their finest stuff, but damn I loved Stark's raving insanity and Crichton going apeshit. The miniseries really wrapped up the show well. One big thing you miss watching it on DVD is the cliffhangers. They'd dump you in a huge fucking cliffhanger and take off for 4 or 5 months. For those interested, I think they've begun reissuing Farscape as 6 or 8 episodes a DVD. The first batch of DVDs were all 2 episodes for $20-30, which was trifle high. Dead Like Me season 2 was solid. Daisey was a much better character, showing vulnerability, than the two dimensional character she was in season 1. Sopranos season 5 was good. Not the emotional resonance like in the end of Season 4. Buscemi playing a pretty characteristic role. Nothing real exceptional, but some good moments. And I swear never to mention The Show That Must Not Be Named again.... Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Rasix on June 02, 2005, 08:42:19 PM Too often since we have TiVo. Yes, another year of him having to watch every Charmed episode with me should do it (even the daily TNT ones). My wife makes me watch Charmed as well. At least I was able to wiggle out of Veronica Mars. Veronica Mars is actually a really good show. Really good. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Merusk on June 03, 2005, 09:09:08 AM Lexx was a beatoff show. If anybody watched it for a plotline their brain went out for a smoke. Well beatoff/ sci-fi parody. It never took itself seriously, which meant it didn't really fit well in-between the other shows on Fridays. There were a few episodes that got chuckles out of me. Of course, I enjoyed Good Vs Evil, (or GvsE as it was called when it moved to USA) so what the fuck do I know. Quote For those interested, I think they've begun reissuing Farscape as 6 or 8 episodes a DVD. The first batch of DVDs were all 2 episodes for $20-30, which was trifle high. Really? Because that'd be fucking great. Paying $200 a season was NOT happening, which is why I also don't own any B-5 episodes. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: HaemishM on June 03, 2005, 09:15:07 AM Of course, I enjoyed Good Vs Evil, (or GvsE as it was called when it moved to USA) so what the fuck do I know. GvsE was a good show that never had a chance in hell of lasting long on any network. It was just too beyond people. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Der Helm on June 03, 2005, 12:21:53 PM I keep seeing trailers for a new "mini-series" (or whatever it is called) by the name of "Taken". "Presented by Stephen Spielberg" none the less.
Anyone already seen it ? The trailers look not so shaby Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: ClydeJr on June 03, 2005, 01:36:27 PM I keep seeing trailers for a new "mini-series" (or whatever it is called) by the name of "Taken". "Presented by Stephen Spielberg" none the less. http://www.scifi.com/taken/index_main.html This was put out back in 2002. Are they making a new version of it or something? Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Der Helm on June 03, 2005, 02:31:10 PM Well, me being from germany, my usage of the word "new" should be taken with a grain of salt
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Shockeye on June 03, 2005, 02:48:26 PM For you silly Veronica Mars junkies:
Quote from: E! Watch With Kristin (http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Kristin/Archive2005/050603.html) Veronica Mars: According to sources close to the show, Veronica's second-season pickup came with a suggestion: that producers try to pull in a broader audience closer in demographics to its new time-slot partner on UPN, America's Next Top Model. To do so, the idea was that Veronica should get a female companion, hopefully with a "name" (rumor has it they tossed around the name Tara Reid--though I choose not to believe that), an older love interest and, here comes the hard part, that producers scale back two characters close to Veronica (meaning, they won't be in every episode), and write off a third. Hope you're sitting down. Because sources in the know tell me someone is getting killed off of Veronica Mars six episodes into the new season. And who it is will rip your heart into itty-bitty pieces. Though I'm tempted to name this dead man walking so you can write in letters to help save this beloved character and actor, I've been promised a slow, torturous death inside a burning refrigerator if I do, for it will spoil a major upcoming plot point. Hmph. So, I can only issue this plea to the Powers That Be: Please, if at all possible, do your best not to tinker with the core relationships and core identity of this show. Those of us who have followed and adored Veronica Mars from the very beginning know the trick is not in making this show "better" (it's already creative genius) or "more mainstream" (Kristen Bell is as universally likable as chocolate), but in simply getting the word out. Sure, that isn't easy, but we have mouths. We'll help! Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Rasix on June 03, 2005, 04:50:16 PM Only thing worse I can imagine happening to that show would be hiring David E. Kelley as a creative consultant.
People don't need to die in that show. She doesn't need a famous slutty friend. Flfyeye elyeh ryleh eh'da efspfof cafrese, cthulu! Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Abagadro on June 17, 2005, 11:01:45 AM Since we were talking about Deadwood actors in different roles up there:
I was just watching There's Something About Marie and they had a "DVD of TV" segment with an interview with the guy who played Warren, Cameron Diaz's retarded brother. Turns out it is was the guy who plays Dan Dority, Al's right hand man. I was very suprised. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: WayAbvPar on June 17, 2005, 11:11:18 AM Since we were talking about Deadwood actors in different roles up there: I was just watching There's Something About Marie and they had a "DVD of TV" segment with an interview with the guy who played Warren, Cameron Diaz's retarded brother. Turns out it is was the guy who plays Dan Dority, Al's right hand man. I was very suprised. Wow. I can't believe that was him. Quite a chameleon! Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: voodoolily on June 17, 2005, 11:51:03 AM Will Sasso played a tard on Drop Dead Gorgeous, but I guess that wasn't much of a stretch. But dang the man does a good Kenny Rogers.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Bunk on June 17, 2005, 12:52:54 PM Sasso's look changed quite a bit when he dropped a gazillion pounds. Good comic actor, I always rooted for the guy since he's a local boy.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: calapine on September 21, 2012, 03:48:22 PM The original Lexx with Eva Habermann was decent because of Eva Habermann nekkiid. Lexx was a beatoff show. If anybody watched it for a plotline their brain went out for a smoke. Boo. No, the first cinema length episodes (1-4) were...special. They already had a campy vibe, but taking itself serious enough and, more importently, being intelligent enough. Add that the to a plot/story which stood up to any other SF around (plus the the nekkidness/gore/euro-weirdness) and it's one of a insider's tip. *Yes, thread-necro. But someone was wrong on the internet. And I care! Edit: Not to forget it features Malcolm McDowell and the lovely Tim Curry, who are both a way too rare treat on TV nowadays. Ediit: and Rutger Hauer. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Rasix on September 21, 2012, 04:25:30 PM (https://dl.dropbox.com/u/82533/headslap.gif)
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: calapine on September 21, 2012, 04:38:26 PM Dear Mr. Rasix, Moderator, yes, I am aware it is a Necro, but...
a) I am really drunk b) I stood before the choice of starting a new, pointless, thread or using an existing one c) I felt very strongly about the topic in discussion, as euro-sf is very underrated and I feel a need to root for my team. d) I really loved Lexx and feel somewhat missionary about it. I want more people to be aware of it and watch it. Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Segoris on September 21, 2012, 04:42:37 PM Dear Mr. Rasix, Moderator, yes, I am aware it is a Necro, but... a) I am really drunk b) I stood before the choice of starting a new, pointless, thread or using an existing one c) I felt very strongly about the topic in discussion, as euro-sf is very underrated and I feel a need to root for my team. d) I really loved Lexx and feel somewhat missionary about it. I want more people to be aware of it and watch it. I like the defense of the necro and am now more aware of Lexx Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: ghost on September 21, 2012, 08:08:51 PM Being drunk pretty much justifies anything.
Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Rasix on September 22, 2012, 12:29:24 AM Dear Mr. Rasix, Moderator, yes, I am aware it is a Necro, but... a) I am really drunk b) I stood before the choice of starting a new, pointless, thread or using an existing one c) I felt very strongly about the topic in discussion, as euro-sf is very underrated and I feel a need to root for my team. d) I really loved Lexx and feel somewhat missionary about it. I want more people to be aware of it and watch it. Acceptable. This also shows you used the search. :thumbs_up: Being drunk pretty much justifies anything. No. Feel free to test this, however. :grin: :why_so_serious: Title: Re: Looking for some good TV... Post by: Chimpy on September 22, 2012, 09:36:17 AM :headscratch:
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