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Here are a few good ones. (http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2005-02-02&res=l)

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So?

So we've seen it before, 'cause it's PA and all.

And Penny Arcade stopped being funny when Gabe learned how to draw [consistently well].

This was actually meant to be about money making tips, not PA.

So, who knows how to make teh monies?

Unsubscribe from WoW, get a job.

:P

Die in a car fire on a business trip?

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Heh, to actually be helpful... well, I can't.  I'm just absolutely horrible at making money in WoW. The most money I've made has come from friends quitting the game and giving me their shit :)

Anyhow, there's some methods that seem to work well for some people:

1) You can farm.  FARM FARM FARM FARM FARM.  Hope for a nice blue or purple drop.  Most popular farming areas are permacamped by "NO ABC la" farmers.  Or rogues.  Where there's something to be farmed, there's at least 3 level 60 rogues fighting over it.

Plus, since I use so many bandages while mowing through crap, it's best if I find a good undead or humanoid spawn.  Problem is, both are, as mentioned, usually permacamped.   Elites are inefficient and risky. And undead have the downside of often casting crappy long lasting curses or diseases that a rogue is ill equipped to deal with.  (Shaman farms toooo slow)

2) Gathering kinda works. There's a market for mined goods.  Problem is, most nice mining runs are camped 24/7 by either kekela farmers, regular farmers (this is some people's endgame), or just folks like yourself trying to turn an honest buck.

Still, there's not much competition for mithril in some areas or iron and those still seem to sell relatively well.  Plus, all stones sell well to engineers.

3) Skinning.  You can exp, get loot and get leather/hides at the same time.  It's a super win/win situation.   Skinning products still sell relatively well.  Just undercut everyone on the price and you're garunteed to move your product. 

4) If you're an enchanter, you can farm SM and make a killing off the shards.

All of it though takes patience and the majority takes dealing with 24/7 farmers.  I lack patience and hate humanity, so this is difficult for me.   Instead of farming lately I've been playing Jade Empires.  Once I'm done with Jade Empires I'll go back to watching Farcape episodes.   Once I'm done with that I'll read more Glenn Cook.   

I'm never getting that damn elite mount.

Pet classes for farming, particularly hunter.  Helps downtime immensely as long as you have enough Purina Beast Chow.

Ok, I'll try to make that happen this weekend.  Wish me luck.

To chime in on quasi useful tips:

Farming for your level 40 mount (assuming you're in the 40s)

1. If you're alliance, Badlands isn't half bad.  The Rock Elementals there start dropping gray items that sell for 3-5 silver a piece, and begins to stack relatively quickly.  Factor in the (fairly low) odds that you can get some random green items as you work, and you potentially can make a fair amount of money.  Really, by the time you start hitting the 40s, the gray items begin to be worth some fairly acceptable scratch.

This is probably the slowest, but the steadiest way of getting money. There's a vendor nearby for both horde and alliance, and around there, there's also a repair NPC. Just make sure you have at least 8 free slots worth of stuff to hold, and that will make acquisition much easier.

Other places where this sort of system works would include Desolace, early Tanaris, and parts of Stranglethorn.  Really, any zone  that caters to the late 30, early early 40s range.

2. If you're higher level, or have a class that obliterates Elites, Soloing Scarlet Monestary is a good place to get Green items. The Cemetary zone, used to be fairly popular.

3. In the vein of the above suggestion, just go run through the Scarlet Monestary multiple times period. If you have someone who can disenchant, bonus. SM is nice because it's modular, so people can pick and choose where to go to target specific drops. Uldaman may be more lucrative overall, but it's a slog to go from beginning to end. Plus, the final boss for Uldaman is a bit tricky for people.

4. Gathering can be useful.  By that level, you're looking at Iron and maybe if you're lucky, Mithril. Iron probably retails for around 90 silver - 1 gold a stack, and Mithril is a whopping 4 gold a stack. Dunno how it works for the other ones.  Basically, stop leveling your trade skill, and convert your gathering skill into raw product. Basically, you're using your time in multiple ways, grinding with mob kills, and mining at the same time. Skinning is even more of an obvious way of doing two things at once.

5. For those with a lot of time on their hands, manipulating the market and making cash on margins there is a good way to go also.  There's a few threads on various forums devoted on how to make the money.  It's riskier, and you don't gain XP while you do it, but the return may be worth your while, if you have a lot of time to protect your investments.

Building this as the base, it translates somewhat well if you want to make money when you're late in the game.

1. Find a place with enemies that are high level, and check the drop table for gray items that tend to sell well, or have some sort of quasi-reliable drop that sells well (Cloth, leather, etc). Consider going after mobs that drop items semi-reliably that have some market worth. Felcloth, Runecloth, comes to mind.

2. Kill elites at a solo pace. For 60s, this could mean stuff a low as the Hinterland Trolls.  Probably can go higher and hit harder stuff, like elites floating around Searing Gorge, or Burning Steppes. If you bring friends that augment your weaknesses, you'll find your kill speed spiking up rapidly.  (Pair a warrior with a healer, etc)

3. Run many instances. Sell the good, sellable stuff. If your gear is decked out, make a point to say that you're passing on stuff that's Bind on Pickup, and talk about wanting to be compensated by rolling on stuff that has market value. (Bind on Equip Blues, Enchantment Shards). Don't whine, just make sure the raid leader knows you're in this more to make a buck, than get a new pair of boots.

4. Gather as you kill.  Sell stacks of end level tradeskill goods for a decent price on the AH. Delay your own tradeskill gains, or at the very least, don't buy stuff on the AH.

5. Manipulate the market.  Should be easier with an established bankroll now that you're in your late 50s-60.

Pick a trade skill with a big money maker and work towards that.  I've made about 1500 gold since i got the crusader enchant, a guildie of mine just sold his first arcanite reaper for 800 gold.  There is a big money maker high end product for most trade skills.

I kid because I don't know. When I cancelled my lvl 58 hunter had 4 or 5 gold and maybe one blue item. I'm just not good at economics nor playing pokemon.

I haven't seen any Chinese gold farmers on my server, or at least, they've been quiet about it. I've seen paladins with really shitty gear running around attempting to farm mithril/iron, but my boots of very-slight-faster-running and superior level (and thus smaller aggro radius) allowed me to beat them to veins over and over again. I can recall three or so farmers like that I pretty much ran off of the Alterac mountains since I beat them to every single vein they tried to get for over an hour.

Sorry Sum Yung Gai, get a real job or go fucking hungry and DIE, I want my Blacksmithing skillups.

Mined goods sell -very- well on my server as well (Proudmoore), Iron and Mithril especially. Thorium doesn't seem to sell for shit, and unless you've got alchemist/enchanter buddies Arcanite/enchanted thorium/whatever isn't worth the trouble. Diamonds and gems however sell for plenty too.

Fuck yeah.

Fabricated, who are you on Proudmoore? That's also my server.

And yes, mining sells well. Also, there are mobs at the upper levels who are worth about 10g an hour if you grind on them. I typically make money on my mining early and my farming later, then I pvp at night.

My main toon there is named "Bryce". Alliance, Warrior, level 45.

I'm unguilded, which is proving annoying since I get 3-5 guild invitations every time I stone to Ironforge.

Heh, I'm Paelos 60 Alliance Warrior.

Don't worry, I won't hassle you into a guild.

Grab a charter and bribe newbies to sign it.  The tells go silent.  It's wonderful.

Odd that I don't remember ever seeing you. The only guilds I remember though are the umpteen "<blank> of Gold" guilds, the Penny-Arcade Guild, and Ruined. Thorns of Gold members have actually been pretty cool overall when I've had to group with them. I hear most of Ruined is cockholes, but I haven't had to deal with them.

I want to get the fuck off this server since 99.9% of it is level cap and the rest are alts, so I haven't joined a guild. I pray we get to transfer characters soon. I wish we could pick, so I could find some unpopulated RP server.

You just can't be on the naughty sidel, can you?  Not even in a silly game, you Jesus Monkey, you!  That, in itself, is oddly evil.   :-P

Got my first mount by mining and selling those few engineering items required by quests.  I mined _everything_ especially copper.  Lots of copper.

Second mount, I was herbs/alchemist, but financed by my 225 tailor who does nothing but buy materials at the AH and sell shirts.  It's an obsession; even though I don't actually play anymore, I still log in once a day to stick 2 of each kind of shirt on the AH that I can make.  I don't gouge people; I just like to make shirts.  I have a pricelist I work from, for both buying materials and selling things.  I also make and sell certain items required by quests or other trades to make their items.

Find a niche, or just do whatever skill for a few days of playtime, and sell everything.

I have a tailor/enchanter alt that I feed all my mageweave to. he turns that into mageweave tunics then disenchants them and sells the dust. On our server I can get 2.5g for a stack of vision dust and I get between 2-5 dust per tunic. When I was working on fulborg faction for timbermaw in felwood I was getting 100-200 mageweave a play session.

Also my hunter still skins everything dispite being 300 in leathercraft and skinning and I make items and send them to my alt to disenchant with him as well.

That combined with keeping a few of the rarer wicked leather pieces in the A.H. constantly keep me in gold fairly well.

If you have access to 2 accounts and some patience, you can make a good bit of money exploiting the difference in prices between the Orgrimmar and Ironforge auction houses.

Fixed that for you. Accuracy is important, and whatnot.

Two accounts is just really tempting, especially since my friend quit.  I always wanted to roll a mage/warrior for pvp and he had a 60 mage and near 50 warrior (mmmm.. reaper love).   But, I think my wife would murder me in my sleep.  Just bought a car, sprinkler system stopped working, gotta save for vacaction,  etc etc.  So really, another 15 bucks a month on this hobby and I'm looking at a steak knife in the ribs.

Think a a bit lower. Hell hath no fury...

Well, it's my wife's account.  Nevertheless, that edit was worthy of superslam.jpg

How the hell does that work?  I didn't think Horde and Alliance could trade in any way?

I'm guessing Gadgetzan.

Yeah you can move items from 1 faction to the other at g-stan.  You need access to 2 accounts or a friend helping you because you cannot bid/buyout items that are auctioned by another character on your account. 

Leatherworking is not bad but the real way to earn money is to play the AH.  It is pretty simple but I'm just not interested in spending my time tracking prices.  My friend uses his leatherworking rogue, a real moneymaker itself, to send junk to his enchanter that lives in the Org AH.  It was a bit slow until he got his horse at lv40, but he had another 90g after a few days.

He is also a big catass and an experienced sales shark.  YMMV.

My guild is Savage Truth, and they are mostly casual friends from the days of UO. I'm probably the most hardcore guy in the thing. Our GM isn't even 60. Generally we don't raid yet as a unit, and we have such lvl differences we hardly group for anything en masse. We just enjoy the chat channels and we trade resources to each other for support and whatnot. By the time Battlegrounds roll in, we'll be more of a force. We were DAOC players and have more PvP love than raiding love.

And no Signe, I didn't choose the good side, my guild did. I wanted to be Horde, but they thought it was icky. I beta'd an undead warrior.

Cats if you are on alliance.  My chick does this and makes easy money daily.  Seems you horde love your cats.
Not sure what the horde pets all are but alliance has rabbits, hawks, cats, and that (not so rare anymore) rare Lil timmy spawn in SW that sells the one white kitten each spawn (which I seem to have the luck in finding quite often).
She bought me a prarie dog so i'm assuming this is one of the horde vendor pets.  What are the others if any?
Easy cash anyways.   Just don't let me catch any of yous doing it on Bleeding Hollow.  Biatches.


I've also read about horde wanting the special chicken feed bought in Westfall for the chicken quest.  Put it up for 1g piece or 2 and maybe that will sell also.

I have a cockroach and am quite happy with it.  An undead with anything else seems inappropriate.  I'm not sure what all of the others are, but snakes are available in Org.  I might sell them in Gadgetzan except for the fact that the outpost is usually a deathtrap, especially when flying in.

Also, the Crushridge economy was been unstable ever since the server transfer brought all those high-pop retards over, but then I have not really played since the Murder Point system was implemented.

The very first whelpling I ever killed dropped a Red Dragon Whelpling pet.  I was quite cheered by it, and bound it to me.

It was only after the 17th person commented on it, I realised it was really, really rare and goes for about 80g on the AH.  I wouldn't have sold it, but that's not the point.

Just my luck.

I believe that for Alliance, the Maine Coon cat is the most rare, because the only place they can get one is at Gadget AH.  It drops off of friendly-to-alliance mobs only.

I too made bank selling pets to the Horde in gadget. Owls and rabbits sold really well (4g each), as the AH was usually flooded with the common cats. The siamese and white kittens were good for 15g each. hehehe, suckers!

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Hearthglen, mage and healer: destroy like 30 level 58's via AoE.

Mindlessly farm the SM cathedral