|
Title: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: schild on May 02, 2005, 06:15:01 AM I don't know about you, but this could be the most positively baffling statement to come from someone who is no doubt paid millions of dollars a year.
Quote "Let's face it, we're disappointed it did not open bigger," Sony distribution chief Rory Bruer says. "We had a big star in Ice Cube, a fantastic director (Lee Tamahori, director of 2002's Die Another Day). We felt like we had everything going for us. I'm not sure what happened." Well I'm not sure who the fuck would hire someone as dimwitted as this. Hell, I don't even know what Sony is thinking. They expected the sequel to pull in $25M and it pulled in $13.7M. If you ask me, that's $13,700,000 more than I would have projected. All I know is that if I want a movie greenlighted about my ASS, I'm going to Rory Bruer. What a clueless moron. Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Murgos on May 02, 2005, 06:48:27 AM All I know is that if I want a movie greenlighted about my ASS, I'm going to Rory Bruer. We just got 40 mil, bust out the ass wax filming starts this afternoon. Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: shiznitz on May 02, 2005, 11:03:09 AM Since when is Ice Cube a big star? This movie had "hollywood handjob" written all over it.
Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: schild on May 02, 2005, 11:41:01 AM Oh man, Rory Bruer is awesome. (From CmdrSlacks link):
Quote "I wish I could say," said Rory Bruer, head of distribution for "XXX" studio Sony. "Certainly, we're disappointed, because it's a film we all believed in. We have Ice Cube, who is a big star, and I think he's one of those rare actors who really can do just about anything. So I really don't know." How the FUCK does he do it? Ice Cube is a rare actor who can do just about anything? If by anything you mean "angsty short black dude," then fuck yea, he can do anything. I hope they sign him to play Jack Sparrow in the third Pirates, because he's - ya know - one of those rare actors. Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Paelos on May 02, 2005, 11:41:35 AM Since when is Ice Cube a big star? This movie had "hollywood handjob" written all over it. Hey guys, we're going to do a sequal, but we can't get the original actors back. I'm sure it will be ok! (http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/152/788530.jpg) I don't know what went wrong! Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: WayAbvPar on May 02, 2005, 11:44:45 AM Ice Cube is a decent actor, but doesn't seem compelling enough to carry a film- he needs a very good script (Boys N Tha Hood) and/or a scene-stealing co-star (Friday). I even liked him in Higher Learning. Every time he has tried 'action star' instead of 'scary black activist guy' or 'smart ass stoned guy' it has been a disaster (Anaconda, anyone?).
Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: MaceVanHoffen on May 02, 2005, 12:09:16 PM Quote "Let's face it, we're disappointed it did not open bigger," Sony distribution chief Rory Bruer says. "We had a big star in Ice Cube, a fantastic director (Lee Tamahori, director of 2002's Die Another Day). We felt like we had everything going for us. I'm not sure what happened." Translation: Oh shit! The Hollywood Formula for Producing Piles of Cash failed! I just can't understand it. Moviegoers are supposed to spend money on a 2-hour joyride of metered explosions, sex, and one-liners. Oh well, there can't possibly be a lesson in that for me because marketing people are always right. On to my next project. Now where did I put Uwe Boll's cell number? Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Trippy on May 02, 2005, 04:29:28 PM I don't know about you, but this could be the most positively baffling statement to come from someone who is no doubt paid millions of dollars a year. Here are some facts in Sony's defense. The Fast and the Furious, a Vin Diesel/Rob Cohen movie, opened at around $40 million and went on to gross $144 million domestically. The sequel, 2 Fast 2 Furious which was sans Vin Diesel and Rob Cohen opened at around $50 million (!) and went on to gross $127 million. XXX, another Vin Diesel/Rob Cohen movie, opened at $44 million and grossed $142 million. Given the relative success of 2 Fast 2 Furious, it is not hard to understand the reasoning that went on at Sony to greenlight a sequel to XXX since it followed the exact same model as 2 Fast 2 Furious (no Vin Diesel or Rob Cohen but same basic premise).Quote "Let's face it, we're disappointed it did not open bigger," Sony distribution chief Rory Bruer says. "We had a big star in Ice Cube, a fantastic director (Lee Tamahori, director of 2002's Die Another Day). We felt like we had everything going for us. I'm not sure what happened." Well I'm not sure who the fuck would hire someone as dimwitted as this. Hell, I don't even know what Sony is thinking. They expected the sequel to pull in $25M and it pulled in $13.7M. If you ask me, that's $13,700,000 more than I would have projected.Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Arnold on May 02, 2005, 04:32:45 PM I don't know about you, but this could be the most positively baffling statement to come from someone who is no doubt paid millions of dollars a year. Here are some facts in Sony's defense. The Fast and the Furious, a Vin Diesel/Rob Cohen movie, opened at around $40 million and went on to gross $144 million domestically. The sequel, 2 Fast 2 Furious which was sans Vin Diesel and Rob Cohen opened at around $50 million (!) and went on to gross $127 million. XXX, another Vin Diesel/Rob Cohen movie, opened at $44 million and grossed $142 million. Given the relative success of 2 Fast 2 Furious, it is not hard to understand the reasoning that went on at Sony to greenlight a sequel to XXX since it followed the exact same model as 2 Fast 2 Furious (no Vin Diesel or Rob Cohen but same basic premise).Quote "Let's face it, we're disappointed it did not open bigger," Sony distribution chief Rory Bruer says. "We had a big star in Ice Cube, a fantastic director (Lee Tamahori, director of 2002's Die Another Day). We felt like we had everything going for us. I'm not sure what happened." Well I'm not sure who the fuck would hire someone as dimwitted as this. Hell, I don't even know what Sony is thinking. They expected the sequel to pull in $25M and it pulled in $13.7M. If you ask me, that's $13,700,000 more than I would have projected.Apparently, rice rockets are more popular than former rappers who were doing their rapping when the target audience either had not been born, or were in diapers. Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Hoax on May 02, 2005, 04:47:03 PM I blame the lack of titties in XXX2 vrs 2Fast2Furious...
Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: WayAbvPar on May 02, 2005, 05:01:07 PM I blame the lack of titties in XXX2 vrs 2Fast2Furious... This is a gross (and easily correctable) oversight. At least the crappy action flicks of the 80s had some gratuitous skin (Action Jackson, anyone?). Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Abagadro on May 02, 2005, 09:12:47 PM Give Rory a break, he's in distribution not development. They dump the turds in his lap and he has to polish them.
Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Strazos on May 02, 2005, 09:57:26 PM Apparently, rice rockets are more popular than former rappers who were doing their rapping when the target audience either had not been born, or were in diapers. Die. I wish everyone driving a "rice rocket" would mysteriosuly go sterile. Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Viin on May 02, 2005, 10:05:53 PM Hey! I like my Yamaha R6!
B!tchi Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Strazos on May 02, 2005, 10:23:36 PM Not this (http://www.ninja.tm.fr/images/Catalogue/Photo%20moto/YAMAHA-R6-bas-IN.GIF).
I mean this (http://www.mooneyes.co.jp/garage/speed/lunar.jpg), this (http://morbo.net/pics/bigimages/GordRiceRocket.jpg), or stupid ass shit like this (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://djdetroitdesi.50megs.com/images/Rides/civic1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://djdetroitdesi.50megs.com/rides.htm&h=262&w=460&sz=50&tbnid=QWIjwLVFohsJ:&tbnh=71&tbnw=125&hl=en&start=59&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drice%2Brocket%26start%3D40%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN). Funniest quote from the last page: An Escort? (http://djdetroitdesi.50megs.com/images/Rides/misc.htm) Outperforming a Mustang SVT Cobra? Give. Me. A. Break. Shoot yourself now...I'll even buy you the bullet. As you can see, I have a seething rage for anything "bling bling" or the entire "ricer culture." It makes me more stabby than Haemish could ever hope to be. Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Abagadro on May 02, 2005, 10:33:23 PM As a result of a series of events I won't bother to recount, I discovered they are remaking Back to School with Cedric the Entertainer in the Dangerfield role. I weep for Hollywood.
Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Strazos on May 02, 2005, 10:37:32 PM Lemme get started on those pipe bombs. I want to get them in the mail by the weekend.
Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Murgos on May 03, 2005, 05:15:54 AM I was in the local 20 theater cineplex last weekend and I was checking out the coming atractions posters. Out of 15 or so posters there were maybe 2 that looked like original ideas. Everything else was a remake. Um. WTF?
Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: schild on May 03, 2005, 05:20:03 AM I was in the local 20 theater cineplex last weekend and I was checking out the coming atractions posters. Out of 15 or so posters there were maybe 2 that looked like original ideas. Everything else was a remake. Um. WTF? This must be your first time at a movie theater when the seasons change from Spring to Summer. Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Murgos on May 03, 2005, 06:02:00 AM I don't get to the movies much anymore. I am generally way too busy. Thats said, there are many more remakes coming out in the near future than ever before. I am used to one or two a summer but seriously, The Longest Yard, The Exorcist, War of the Worlds, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Herbie, Bad News Bears, The Pink Panther? And then there is TV to movie weirdness, Bewitched, Dukes of Hazard, The Honeymooner and this is just off the top of my head.
There is no fucking way you can tell me this is 'Normal'. Did everyone in hollywood just run out of ideas all at once? Is the promise of 100's of millions not enough to inspire some creativity? I've seen all those things already, show me something new and exciting damnit! Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: shiznitz on May 03, 2005, 06:29:44 AM I don't know about you, but this could be the most positively baffling statement to come from someone who is no doubt paid millions of dollars a year. Here are some facts in Sony's defense. The Fast and the Furious, a Vin Diesel/Rob Cohen movie, opened at around $40 million and went on to gross $144 million domestically. The sequel, 2 Fast 2 Furious which was sans Vin Diesel and Rob Cohen opened at around $50 million (!) and went on to gross $127 million. XXX, another Vin Diesel/Rob Cohen movie, opened at $44 million and grossed $142 million. Given the relative success of 2 Fast 2 Furious, it is not hard to understand the reasoning that went on at Sony to greenlight a sequel to XXX since it followed the exact same model as 2 Fast 2 Furious (no Vin Diesel or Rob Cohen but same basic premise).Quote "Let's face it, we're disappointed it did not open bigger," Sony distribution chief Rory Bruer says. "We had a big star in Ice Cube, a fantastic director (Lee Tamahori, director of 2002's Die Another Day). We felt like we had everything going for us. I'm not sure what happened." Well I'm not sure who the fuck would hire someone as dimwitted as this. Hell, I don't even know what Sony is thinking. They expected the sequel to pull in $25M and it pulled in $13.7M. If you ask me, that's $13,700,000 more than I would have projected.That is not a defense. It just makes them look dumber. Anyone who thinks that making money in the movie business is that simple shouldn't be in the movie business. That thinking ignores about one hundred other variables that I don't want to list since people here already know them. Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Paelos on May 03, 2005, 07:36:05 AM That is not a defense. It just makes them look dumber. Anyone who thinks that making money in the movie business is that simple shouldn't be in the movie business. That thinking ignores about one hundred other variables that I don't want to list since people here already know them. Jurassic Park III grossed $180M. I question who is dumber in the equation sometimes. The fool or the fool who watches his tripe. Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: kaid on May 03, 2005, 07:52:27 AM Honestly I liked jurasic park 3 more than JP2. That aint saying much but I dont mind having JP3 on the tv when I am playing on my puter.
kaid Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Abagadro on May 03, 2005, 08:18:22 AM Well, then get yourself ready for Jurasic Park IV! (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0369610/) Co-written by John Sayles no less.
Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Paelos on May 03, 2005, 08:32:35 AM Well, then get yourself ready for Jurasic Park IV! (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0369610/) Co-written by John Sayles no less. That's going to be painful. Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: shiznitz on May 03, 2005, 08:47:18 AM So they should have put dinosaurs in XXX2!! Damn you geniuses!
Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Merusk on May 03, 2005, 09:20:01 AM So they should have put dinosaurs in XXX2!! Damn you geniuses! Oh no, better yet, Dinosaurs driving rice rockets who have to protect the President from Vin Diesel. Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Daeven on May 03, 2005, 09:52:59 AM So they should have put dinosaurs in XXX2!! Damn you geniuses! Oh no, better yet, Dinosaurs driving rice rockets who have to protect the President from Vin Diesel. Dude! Throw in a daring Asteroid rescue and you can print your own money with this property. Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Furiously on May 03, 2005, 10:01:00 AM Don't forget the hawt president's daughters... Maybe twins...
Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: HaemishM on May 03, 2005, 10:15:48 AM In what world is Ice Cube a big movie star? I mean, I know Cube but isn't the string of Fridays movies his biggest movie? Anaconda? And the director of a Bond movie? I thought they just produced them from a fungus in some lab.
The movie was doomed to failure. XXX the first one was an OK movie, but without Vin Diesel, what was the point? When you make a "franchise" movie around a star who doesn't want to be in the franchise, you're pretty much doomed to failure. Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Strazos on May 03, 2005, 10:29:59 AM It's a shame someone bothered to put the Shelby Cobra prototype in the movie. They should be lynched.
Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: HaemishM on May 03, 2005, 11:10:04 AM As a result of a series of events I won't bother to recount, I discovered they are remaking Back to School with Cedric the Entertainer in the Dangerfield role. I weep for Hollywood. RAGE I look forward to the day when Cedric the Entertainer stops playing the goofy fat black guy who dances. Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Shockeye on May 03, 2005, 11:18:54 AM I have yet to find Cedric entertaining.
Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: HaemishM on May 03, 2005, 11:19:46 AM That's the beauty of it, see. It's ironic, dog.
Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Paelos on May 03, 2005, 11:32:19 AM That's the beauty of it, see. It's ironic, dog. You're the man now, dog (http://www.yourethemannowdog.com/) Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Mortriden on May 03, 2005, 11:38:46 AM So they should have put dinosaurs in XXX2!! Damn you geniuses! Oh no, better yet, Dinosaurs driving rice rockets who have to protect the President from Vin Diesel. Dude! Throw in a daring Asteroid rescue and you can print your own money with this property. Alright, now you're just fucked. You know damn well NO ONE can stop Vin Diesel. Maybe if he had to protect the president and pull off the Asteroid rescue. Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Sky on May 03, 2005, 01:12:38 PM C'mon, Barbershop was a great movie.
Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Mesozoic on May 03, 2005, 01:26:56 PM As production costs go up, financiers look for "sure bets," typically sequels or re-makes of older efforts, somehow remaining ignorant of the fact that budget does not = profit.
Five points to the person who can identify another industry where this happens. Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Paelos on May 03, 2005, 02:13:42 PM As production costs go up, financiers look for "sure bets," typically sequels or re-makes of older efforts, somehow remaining ignorant of the fact that budget does not = profit. Five points to the person who can identify another industry where this happens. Porn. What do I win? Title: Re: xXx 2 flops, Sony throws up hands and says, "Whuuuuuuu?" Post by: Strazos on May 03, 2005, 02:39:42 PM A Date With Tubgirl?
|