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Title: You could be a stripper and not even know it.
Post by: Shockeye on April 12, 2005, 11:34:14 AM
Quote from: AP
Ohio Agents Use Woman's Identity in Strip-Bar Sting (http://www.officer.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=5&id=22852)

ASSOCIATED PRESS

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -- Supporters of Ohio's identity theft law are livid that state liquor control agents gave a college student the driver's license and Social Security number of another woman so she could pose as a stripper for a sting.

Investigators and Miami County Prosecutor Gary Nasal came up with nothing more than misdemeanor charges in the 2003 vice operation targeting the Total Xposure strip bar near Troy in western Ohio.

Nasal said the ploy was legal because a change in Ohio's law the previous year aimed at curbing identity theft. The law allows police to use a person's identity within the context of an investigation, he said.

And the tactics were justified because authorities managed to close the club, Nasal said.

''I don't apologize for the investigation and the conduct,'' he told The Columbus Dispatch for a story Sunday. ''The result speaks for itself.''

That doesn't sit well with a number of people, including the Republican state representative who sponsored the legislation and David Dawson, the father of the woman whose identity was used.

''I don't know much about law, but I would say that's just baloney,'' said Dawson, who lives part time in Columbus.

Dawson said his daughter lives in Cincinnati, has never been a stripper and didn't want to comment.

According to court records, Troy police paid Michelle Szuhay $100 per night over three months to strip at the club in Troy, a city of about 22,000 north of Dayton.

Szuhay, then a 22-year-old criminal justice major at the University of Dayton, worked as an intern with the U.S. Marshals Service and in a security post with the NASA Glenn Research Center in Cleveland. She had also stripped before, Nasal said.

Reached at her home near Cleveland, Szuhay declined to comment.

Each night Szuhay danced, the state agents drank beer and watched from seats inside the club, ostensibly looking for violations of liquor laws at the same time. Troy police watched, too, through an Internet account they set up using the identity of a dead man.

''Watching her dance was quite different than the other girls,'' Troy Capt. Chuck Adams said. ''She was doing some things I think she was ashamed of.''

Police said Szuhay befriended the Total Xposure staff, drinking with them after hours while using the driver's license of Dawson's daughter. Nasal and police eventually charged Szuhay with perjury and obstruction of justice. The charges were dropped, but Nasal said they would be refiled.

Rep. Jim Hughes of Columbus said his 2002 bill was supposed to help law enforcement fight identity theft.

''It was not intended for that, I can tell you that,'' Hughes said.


Title: Re: You could be a stripper and not even know it.
Post by: Paelos on April 12, 2005, 11:46:12 AM
I'm totally lost as to the reason they wanted this girl involved in some kind of liquor violation scheme that would take three months. I mean, it just sounds like a buch of cops getting their jollies while kicking back beers on the taxpayers dime.


Title: Re: You could be a stripper and not even know it.
Post by: Shockeye on April 12, 2005, 11:46:40 AM
I'm totally lost as to the reason they wanted this girl involved in some kind of liquor violation scheme that would take three months. I mean, it just sounds like a buch of cops getting their jollies while kicking back beers on the taxpayers dime.

Yep. That's about the long and short of it.


Title: Re: You could be a stripper and not even know it.
Post by: Shockeye on April 12, 2005, 03:50:17 PM
Here's picture goodness of the "stripper". (http://www.udayton.edu/~crimjust/Szuhay/szuhay.html) SFW

(http://www.udayton.edu/~crimjust/Szuhay/michelle1.jpg)


Title: Re: You could be a stripper and not even know it.
Post by: Murgos on April 12, 2005, 04:32:12 PM
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And the tactics were justified because authorities managed to close the club, Nasal said.

So the ends DO justify the means, I always thought so.  Gald to have it confirmed by those in authority... again.


Title: Re: You could be a stripper and not even know it.
Post by: Merusk on April 12, 2005, 05:26:47 PM
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And the tactics were justified because authorities managed to close the club, Nasal said.

So the ends DO justify the means, I always thought so.  Gald to have it confirmed by those in authority... again.

Only if you're the one in authority.   Otherwise nope, you're a dirty low-down sonofabitch who should have every concievable charge thrown at them.


And that's probably one of the better-looking strippers I've seen for the Southern Ohio area... of course I haven't been to a club in about 5 years.


Title: Re: You could be a stripper and not even know it.
Post by: Trippy on April 12, 2005, 05:54:46 PM
This article makes no sense at all. How did they close down the club with only a misdemeanor charge? Why did they need to give Michelle Szuhay somebody else's identity, and if they did, why not give her a dead person's one like they did for the Internet viewers? Why did they need her to dance if there were already undercover officers inside watching the shows and others watching over the Internet? Why did they charge Szuhay with perjury and obstruction of justice?


Title: Re: You could be a stripper and not even know it.
Post by: Paelos on April 13, 2005, 07:43:17 AM
I agree, if it was making a point, the article failed miserably.


Title: Re: You could be a stripper and not even know it.
Post by: HaemishM on April 13, 2005, 08:51:20 AM
Yeah, I was as confused as a transsexual in a dress shop looking for overalls by that article.


Title: Re: You could be a stripper and not even know it.
Post by: Merusk on April 13, 2005, 09:54:39 AM
The point was, "Hey Look, this law is fuxored and law enforcement can do whatever they want with your identity living or dead."

The added bonus was the substory about the girl being dumb enough to strip, even though she didn't enjoy it, while her co-workers looked on.
They must be big Bloodhound Gang (http://www.bassmasta.net/b/bloodhound_gang/133155.html) fans.

At least that's how I took it.