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You know, I can set up a BF1942 server if enough people want it. Our current servers aren't getting much use and I'm all for adding more servers if people will use them.

I'd do either that or Vietnam. I was totally burnt on 1942 for a long time, but I've been playing a bit more recently, and checking out some Vietnam, which was released during my burnt phase.

I should warn you the server is a total resource hog. That said, my clan was hosting several servers, one at 40 players, even. I think we had to shut a couple of our 32 player games down to host our 64-player league matches. Best way to go with bf1942, because of the larger scale, is to open it to the public and admin a bunch of folks from here so we can kick smacktards. We used to alternate between all taking one side and decimating the pubbers and splitting into our Alpha and Bravo configs and using pubbers to fill out the ranks and add some randomness.

I'm a Battlefield fanboi, though. I'd play more UT...but it's a bit too fast for me, I get smoked a lot, heh. I like the slightly slower pace of 1942. no idea how to fly choppers in Vietnam, haven't messed with them much, mostly learning maps still...but if I shed the rust I'm a pretty dern good pilot in 1942, it was my primary role in the clan (also an engineer and later medic out of laziness).

Same here.  I hate the run and gun games, but I'll play the hell out of a game like Day of Defeat, Rainbow Six, or BF1942.

Goddamn it Shockeye! I was replying to this sub-thread when you moved these posts! I thought my brain had finally given up the ghost  :-D

I could possibly be convinced to reinstall Bf1942 (I have Road to Rome too). Never did try Vietnam- did they ever get the balance problems worked out?

I'm a bastard, I know.

If there's interest I'll run over to EBGames later today and pick up the 3 pack of BF1942 for $30 and get things running on the server later tonight.

3-pack? What's in it? I might be able to borrow the game from a buddy...I'd love to be an admin..

BTW, what's the status on hacks in the series? Prevalent, etc?

You don't get to play. I'd like a chance to win, thanks.

Boooo....

How about you stop drinking your Haterade with Hatertots?

How about you play with your eyes closed or one hand tied behind your back?

The 3-pack has BF1942, Road to Rome, and the Secret Weapons addons.

I'd definitely be up for BF1942 if the server were sufficiently populated.  We can't even muster enough people for a UT or HL deathmatch session very often, though, and BF needs at least 10 people to play properly, IMO.  So I'm skeptical.   :-P

Count me in. I'm not a big "UT type" fan either. HL2 Deathmatch I like, but it's no fun with only 1 or 2 people. Especially when those other players are usually Fab, Samwise, or Kenrick  :wink:

Perhaps opening up some of the servers to the unwashed masses might not be a bad idea, then.

If you decide to do that with HL2, make it team deathmatch. It's so much better that way.

And make all the "cooler", active people here admins.

Ok, "Cool Kids", let's do it this way. Send me a PM with what games you want to play and which ones you're willing to help admin. I'll sort out all this fun stuff tonight. Viva la... fun?

Oooh!  Abuse of power?  Me, me!

Bleh, I said no such thing...

I think you should rephrase your statement as,

"Abuse of moronic smacktards and cheating sluts? Me, Me!"

OK- I am in the middle of installing BF1942 as I type. What's up?

He still needs to buy the box for to make with da server.

I can make the server without the retail box.

I have to update some of our server software in order to get BF1942 going.

I ran into a small problem last night updating our Cpanel installation. Someone from Cpanel just got back to me and I hope to have the BF1942 server running this evening.

Good deal.  I fired it up yesterday and since then I've been practicing dive bombing and dog fighting, but I still suck at it.  I only hit my target, if it's something small like a tank, about 1 time in 5.  I get really obsessive about this kind of thing.

I spent a week learning how to fly a helicopter competently in Desert Combat (which is flawed, but still good, IMO), and man, I loved being a Blackhawk jockey.  I wouldn't worry about setting up a DC server, though, DC is a love it or hate it sort of thing.  Vanilla BF1942 is just fine. 

Due to possible performance issues I am only going to start out with a 16 player server until I know what kind of impact BF1942 makes on our server.

what does bf1942 sell for now?

EBGames, Best Buy, CompUSA, and Wal-Mart have the BF1942 Anthology for ~$30. Gamestop still lists it for $40.

It includes BF1942 and the two add-ons.

I'm sure you can get a used copy of BF1942 for ~$20 at EB Games, but the 3-pack for $30 is a better deal.

Must--Stop--Blowing---cash

Need....money...for...Europe!

Blah

Ah, I see they're enjoying an Arrested Development created resurgence.

***BTW, if you haven't been watching it, you need to.  Arrested Development is the funniest goddamned show on television right now.  8:30 EST Sundays on Fox***

Ok, I think I have the server running. I can't test it from work.

209.59.137.153:14567

password is: frag13

reserved slot password is: catass

At idle it takes 18% CPU and 5.5% memory.

Cool.  Trying it now.



ETA:  Cannot connect.  Weird, because it checks your Punkbuster status, and kicks you off until you enable it, but even when you do and come back to try to reconnect I keep getting "cannot connect" errors.


ETA Again:  Okay, can't connect with the catass password, but it works just fine with frag13.  You've got nothing but bots duking it out?

There's bots in there fighting? Didn't know.

That explains the high CPU usage.

Hehe, yeah, they're not too bad, either!  You must have the AI jacked the hell up   :-D

AI CPU usage was set at 20% and AI skill was at 75%.

I changed the game types to CTF and TDM.

I just restarted the server.

I'll try to connect and play a bit when I get home.

Only 75%?  It must have been the lack of my teammates kamikazeing me in jeeps and fuckers camping planes that made me think they were more competent than they actually were.

Installing BF1942 Anthology now.

Well that was a hell of a thing.

Game Status (http://www.thew0rld.com/battlestats/bfserverinfo.php)

Next I need to get the remote admin stuff working so you cool kids can start kicking the public scum.

One thing I'd change the next time you're messing with it is game mode, and probably switch it over to conquest.  Team Deathmatch just isn't that popular because there are no objectives to it.  All you do is score points for killing the other guy, while conquest makes you capture spawn points.  The team with the most spawn points has their tickets (points) go down slower than the other team, and they get the added bonus of being able to spawn closer to the front and grab the equipment that's there.  It tends to focus the fighting a lot.

It also takes the emphasis off of pure killing skill.

Exactly.  I personally love playing engineers above any other class, because there's just something very special about seeing a vehicle hit one of your mines and blow the hell up.  Market Garden is excellent for this.  I can keep bridges largely secure just by mining the bridge.  Sure, it won't stop infantry, but they're easy for my other teammates to kill.

The explosives are nice too.  Nothing like tossing one from the top of a building and then waiting for the enemy to come near so you can set 'em off.  You can have all the sniper love you want, engineers are the true stealth killas.

Alrighty then. I'll switch the server over.

I just got remote server management working... wow.

This is beautiful. I can set up a schedule for the game to run, make all changes on the fly, wow.

Cool! I got stuck doing Easter at my in-laws yesterday (and came home and went right to bed, having been up WAY TO GODDAMNED EARLY for the baseball draft), so I didn't get a chance to play. Whirlyball playoffs tonight, so I may check in late. If not, tomorrow. Ph3@R my rusty FPS skilz.

Shockeye and co keep this up and I'll have to start checking the site on weekends. Damn you all imo.

I don't have Secret Wars, but I think I can get hold of the expansion disc, because the eqholic doesn't play BF much now that he's stuck on dialup. Spent much of saturday trying to learn how to fly those wacky BF:V helos, it'll be nice to get back into familiar territory with BF1942, though I'm wicked rusty (and you should all be thankful for that, heh).

I'll jump on later tonight, mondays I work late (til 9pmish).

Oh, and battlefield pwns imo :) Thanks again for the 'experiment'. And to reinforce what's been said: I only play Conquest, so you get at least a semblance of teamplay...and if the enemy wants to play it like DM, well....that much easier to win. I recommend also logging into the teamspeak server. I have it up and running (with shortcut: if anyone doesn't know that trick, I can hook you up), but I have to find my headset, because the only mic I have is my Shure SM58, which is XLR (connector) and doesn't play nice with my pc (yet).

I'll try and check this out. My roommate, brother and I used to play a lot.

I don't own Secret Wars- is that gonna cause a problem? Will it just force me to download a map, or will it bar me from playing?

Right now I only have it set for BF1942 maps, not any maps from Road to Rome or Secret Weapons.

I need some kind of wireless mic or something, that rigamarole was nuts last night. Would've been funny if you guys had seen it.

I also think I need a new gamepad. I really like the one I have (logitech cordless rumble pad 2), but it's only got three basic control systems, I need four (as my old thrustmaster firestorm has, but it's wired). 1- analog sticks/dpad, 2- face buttons, 3- shoulder buttons, 4- triggers. The problem arises when you have to gas the engine, apply rudder, steer, and shoot. Since the cordless pad doesn't have the fourth control system, I have to release one of the other systems to function. So I can be steering the plane, applying rudder and gassing the engine, but when it's time to fire the guns, I have to give up a control. Do I stop giving gas to the engine? Stop steering the plane? I tried setting the gas and rudders to the 4 shoulder buttons, but basically that meant I had no left rudder at all. It was the only time I approached effectiveness, but flying without a left rudder is nigh impossible for me, I'm crazy with ruddering, it's how I line up shots/bombs.

Anyway, that's what I was trying to gripe about last night, Shockeye. And my crappy setup trying to have a mic for TS.

As far as the server goes, I suggested taking the bots off, so yell at me if you miss them :) I'd like to see some of us get together and gang up on public players, but it might be difficult to lure pubbers to our server to play. It will be admin'd and I get a nice ping from NY, so it should be a good playing experience, but the game is rather long in the tooth (everyone donate money so Shockeye can buy a new pc and play Vietnam ;)).

Still, I had a great time trying to re-learn how to fly in 1942...if only those damned bots hadn't kept stealing 'my' plane, dernit. And that goddamned gamepad...

It looks like I should get about 33-35 FPS at 1024x768 on my rig for BF:V. Is it even worth it for me to try?

Are you using FSAA/AF? If so, don't use any at all. BF's engine is abysmal with FSAA/AF applied. For competetive play, I was on a 1 GHz tbird with a 128MB ti4400 (overclocked like mad), running at 1600x1200 (with bf1942, not vietnam, though). It ran far better in a high resolution than at 800x600 with 2xFSAA/AF applied.

As far as fps goes, is that under load or idle? If that's idle, no way. If that's under a load with players and vehicles and particles firing off, you could scrape by.

That would run on a XP 2100+ with a Ti4600 and 1gb of RAM.

Those numbers are based on load and they are an average of a regular playsession of BF:V on a Ti4600 scaled down from a P4 3.2GHz system to mine.

No FSAA or AF bullshit.

I love when people whine about getting ~30 fps under load, as if you can Really tell the difference, or even need it.

Don't you have an aimbot to get running?

I picked up Battlefield: Vietnam so we'll see how that goes. I feel the need to squat in a rice paddy.

OOooOOooOoooo....

Any time (meaning times when we are both free), any where (Meaning UT2k4, HL2, CS:S), chump. We (meaning you, because I don't know how) can even take a video so everyone can get in on the fun.

Don't Hate, Educate.

Don't hate the Playah, hate the game, Son.

Ignoring the above post. I'm putting in a pre-order for the DVD edition of Battlefield 2. I assume everyones getting it? Good.

For some reason I disliked the original. I'll like the sequel. That's just how things are sometimes.

Still sad that valve pulled a DNF on the TF game, I loved me some TFC.

Was the server up and running? I could log in to the Manager, but couldn't find the server (even when I entered the IP address). It has been way too long since I did this- do I use Gamespot Arcade or just go through the BF1942 client?

Just load up the game and choose multplayer on the internet. Choose "Add Server" and type in the IP and port and connect from there.

I think I tried that, but I will try again tonight. I may have been cock-blocked by NAV, now that I think about it.

I don't know how many people exactly are interested in playing, but 5v5 Infantry-only is a pretty popular format on the competitive/clan scene. Obviously you have to cull the map list somewhat and it's practically impossible to enforce the no-vehicle rule on a public server, it's the best way IMO to have the most fun with the smallest amount of people provided that you round up a group of people and configure the server with this in mind.

I'm messing around with bots on the server right now. Got 30 or so bots playing. Boring. I need meat.

I have the game, but not the expansions. I was going to get them, but since you've set up a Vietnam server now, I may just buy that first.

No need for expansions on the BF1942 server. We're not running any of those maps.

It seems the server was not broadcasting itself correctly to Gamespy so it wasn't being listed. It's been fixed.

Bring on the 'tards!

Any play at all this weekend? I checked the server many times and was always the only one on it. I played a bunch on public servers and knocked a bit of the rust off. Managed to stay in the top half of the finishes on most maps, so my skills (such as they are) may not have atrophied as much as I had feared.

Let's set a time this week for all of us to get together and play against the drooling masses. We can get Teamspeak going if we really want to go coordinated.

Exactly.  Every time I ever checked it was only me on.  We need to schedule a time to play, because otherwise we're just a group of assholes willy nilly trying to find each other.

Someone should really make a server-dependent piece of software called Marco Polo. It works like AIM only it's simply a name with icons next to it. You mouse over the name to find out what game and server they're on.

But that would be too fun. And we can't have that.

That is pretty much what the XBL friends list does- tells you who is on and what game they are playing. You can even send them a message, if you can type with the controller without going batshit crazy.

I am available every night this week (AFAIK)- anytime after 5:30 PDT or so.

Goddamnit. You bastards are making me pick up BF1942. And I don't even like the game. But any game is better when playing with people who aren't completely strangers.

Edit: I'll pick it up tonight after work. Be home around 8:45ish EST.

Get BF:Vietnam while you are there. My copy should be arriving sometime before Wednesday.

I blame Shockeye.

I'm not getting a goddamned thing until we actually play some BF1942.  Why waste money on something that I'll never get use out of?

Why bother introducing logic into this? Just spend the $20 and curse Shockeye's name when it sits on your HDD for 6 months!  :evil:

I am actually looking forward to seeing what the changes are in Vietnam (other than a quite different look for the OpFor, I am guessing). Jungle warfare might be fun. Be even better if they made trees climbable.

I didn't enjoy Vietnam as much as I hoped. The maps are not that great, and the combat got a little "twitchy" for my tastes.

Now, the "official" 1942 mod for the Battlefield: Vietnam is awesome.

Should I pick up BF1942 and/or Vietnam? The UT server was fun, hoping this turns out well.

Gamestop didn't have anything, I have to hit up EB and I'm not going there til Thursday so I can pick up Mercury with them. Apologies.

EBgames.com. $20 each. If you want to cough up $9.99 for shipping, you can have them tomorrow. Screw B&M stores.

I like brick and mortar. I hate ordering stuff off the internet. ordering Breakfast with Hunter (http://www.breakfastwithhunter.com) off the net made me gag. I almost didn't get it.

Same here.  I'll do it if I have to, but if I don't I'll go out and pick it up myself.  It fulfills my vestigial sense of hunting/gathering.  Shit, that's the main reason I have a Costco account, so I can just wander the store in amazement foraging for deals.  50 pounds of tortilla chips for $2.95?  Fuck yeah!

Ah, so I assume you've seen the 6 lbs of guacamole for $4.00 and the 9,000 liters of salsa for 76 cents.

Sales tax, and the sometimes lack thereof online, is what drives me to buy from websites.

When it comes to games and gadgets, though, instant gratification is the name of the game.

There's 4 of the unwashed masses on the BF1942 server right now.

I think I'll join them.

We now have 10 unwashed masses on our Battlefield server.

Game on.

I'll be on more, it's been hectic lately. Down with stomach flu last week, and busy almost every night this week. Despite my best efforts to have tons of free time to screw around with, it's disappearing once again.

If only I could fly with a proper gamepad :( No left rudder is killing me, literally. I wonder...if I transplanted the bottom two shoulder buttons under the grips like triggers...that's why my last gamepad (thrustmaster firestorm) was a frankenstein, and why I had several for parts ;)

Yikes. That would be the worst affliction I've ever dealt with. Hope you're feeling good now.

I checked in briefly last night, and there were 2 (gasp) other players on the server. One of them left almost as soon as I logged on, so played on a full server for a few minutes until the unprecedented idiocy of my teammates made me cry (not to mention baby Jesus). I went and watched Deadwood on TiVo instead.

Any chance of getting something semi-organized so there are a lot of us on at the same time?

Scifi friday is over for the season.

Just sayin'

I have yet to watch the 2-part finale of BSG. We need more meat on the server.

schild, get on the server so we can pummel you.

I need to buy the game to be pummeled. And there were no all in one packages pretty much anywhere around here. Patience, friends. I've got enough games on my plate now as it is anyway.

Reinstalled this weekend. I am still pretty good ...
/sarcasm

Shall we set up a time/date for some WWII-fun this week ?

Still waiting for a CoD server so I can pwn you all.

Bruce

Shall we try for Friday night? Say, 6pm PDT/9pm EDT? Holla if you can make it.

6pm is a little early for me. Maybe 10pm Eastern / 7pm Pacific might be better.

That works better for me too...I was just trying to accomodate all the East Coast folks. But screw them- it is Friday night!  :-D

I'm there and I'm square. Can't pwn you all from the air, though. Count thy blessings :)

But we might need more than the three of us...I guess "all those east coast folks" means me, heh.

I was digging through my games. I found a copy of Battlefield 1942 unopened. Uhm, it's just the original version. Will that be enough to play with you all?

I can, of course, apply patches and whatnot.

Should be...there are 2 or 3 patches (use any mirror but EA.com...that was slower than hell for me when I did it). Get busy!

Yeah, we're only running original maps + downloads (Coral Sea, etc). I don't even have the second expansion pack.

Alright. I'll probably be back around 9:30EST. I'll install and update for the half-hour before we play.

Caution: This Player Sucks at BF1942. But he'll still talk trash. Bitches.

I almost bought this thing when I was in the store to pick up Jade Empire. I guess you kids luck out...This Time.

Maybe the only game where I say..."bring it" (because I have all the maps memorized, heh).

We had fun, except for the goddamned bots. I really do hate them. Keep stealing the vehicles and then not using them well, zerging in predictable lines, etc. For example, I drove the artillery to my setup point on market garden, a bot jumped in while I was heading there. Once I'm situated, I mash the "2" key (sometimes they'll jump out), but he won't get out. He's also not firing, just looking around. So I jump out. He hops in the driver seat and leaves, gets killed before he makes the bridge. So I run for the Tiger, which had just spawned, but a bot gets there first (I started killing them after a while). He jumps in and proceeds to sit in the middle of the axis base doing nothing.

I spent more time trying to get a vehicle than playing. Goddamned bots, almost makes you appreciate the retards on public servers.

I think it's safe to turn off this server from lack of interest :(

I am more than willing to play if/when we can get more than 3-4 people.

Exactly.

http://www.xfire.com/xf/index.php