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Title: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Sir T on March 18, 2016, 07:27:31 PM http://fandom.wikia.com/articles/disney-announces-indiana-jones-5
Quote Disney — which purchased Lucasfilm and therefore now owns Indiana Jones — announced today that Indiana Jones 5 is going into development. Steven Spielberg will be back to direct, Harrison Ford will be back as the titular archaeologist, and the film will be released on July 19, 2019. At first, I would have groaned at this news. Ford seemed tired and uncommitted during his last go-around as Indy, but after his genuinely delightful turn as Han Solo in Star Wars: The Force Awakens, I’m a lot more optimistic. It’s also assumed that George Lucas will have very little involvement in this installment, and that’s probably not a bad thing. I have to believe he’ll at least be consulted or get some kind of producer credit, but I don’t know if his name will make it on the screenplay. Lucas has a story credit for each of the Indiana Jones movies but has never written the screenplay. He’ll obviously get a “characters by” credit, but will he at least get to pitch some ideas? As always, it’ll be interesting to see what historic artifact or culture Indy will be involved with. There are numerous unmade Indy movies (some were repurposed into video games like Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis) so there’s no want for material. If Ford can bring that same swagger he brought in The Force Awakens, it might be reason enough to crack that whip one last time. Confirmation - http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/disney-announces-fifth-indiana-jones-875794 *Edit* oh and for those who are snark reading challanged I want to make it clear that I made up the title. Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Kail on March 18, 2016, 08:53:50 PM Quote one last time. Mmhmm. :roll: Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: HaemishM on March 18, 2016, 09:31:27 PM There is literally no reason for this to exist. I do not want to see Harrison Ford hobble through this shit again, not after the last abortion of a movie. Recast it, reimagine it, whatever just not this sad pathetic grab for cash.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Soulflame on March 19, 2016, 08:52:59 AM The last movie was pretty bad. Ford's performance was embarrassing. Shia TheBeef. :oh_i_see: Lucas meddling with the script to "improve" it. The woman from the first movie returning, doing one usefulish thing, then staring adoringly at Ford the rest of the time. Shia TheBeef being Indy's child. Christ. Aliens. The nuclear bomb proof refrigerator. ALIENS.
At this point, I have no real desire to see another Indiana Jones movie with Ford in it Lucas being sidelined does increase the odds of my seeing it slightly though. Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Phildo on March 19, 2016, 11:34:15 AM Only interested if this is about him fighting to avoid getting his tenure revoked.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Soln on March 19, 2016, 11:43:21 AM Yes we need more hyper-nostalgia. :oh_i_see: I tolerated it with the new Star Wars in hope that it will yield new stories. I can't see that happening with this franchise.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Evildrider on March 19, 2016, 12:25:32 PM Once again this is relevant. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pZekhEWCHg) :awesome_for_real:
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Lucas on March 19, 2016, 05:02:16 PM I still have to gather the necessary courage needed to watch the fourth movie for the first time. Not sure I'll catch up :why_so_serious:
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Riggswolfe on March 20, 2016, 02:15:30 PM I still have to gather the necessary courage needed to watch the fourth movie for the first time. Not sure I'll catch up :why_so_serious: If you have any love for the original Trilogy then don't do it. Seriously, stay away from the Crystal Skull and know that many of us envy you. Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Khaldun on March 20, 2016, 05:35:38 PM I've also never seen Crystal Skull. Have no desire to.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Mandella on March 21, 2016, 09:26:40 AM I'm going to be the contrarian here and have some hope. Yeah, Ford has gotten old, but that's nothing a good director/writer/cast can't cure, and so far Disney has had a good eye for getting all three together, at least to my tastes.
Crystal Skull... Sigh. Look, it was no worse than Temple of Doom, and better in some parts. Nuking the fridge happens early in the story and pretty much sets the tone for all the rest of the stunts -- we're talking Loony Toons level of logic. But once you accept that...... Okay, yeah, I thought it sucked too, but I know people who liked it, so YMMV. Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Lakov_Sanite on March 21, 2016, 09:50:33 AM , but I know people who liked it, so YMMV. We all know at least one psychopath. Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: TheWalrus on March 21, 2016, 04:07:52 PM Maybe this will be his Connery role in the series, and he passes off the whip to his kid. Who isn't the aforenamed fuckstick.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Paelos on March 23, 2016, 01:09:51 PM Maybe this will be his Connery role in the series, and he passes off the whip to his kid. Who isn't the aforenamed fuckstick. 1 - That would be great and I would watch this. 2 - Seriously, only if his kid is recast though. 3 - And no more aliens 4 - And no more Lucas 5 - Oh and bring back the holy grail, it was lost. And now, it's back! Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Khaldun on March 23, 2016, 01:47:51 PM The major issue I can see is even if they go with "Old Indiana Jones" and have some non-progeny for his hand-off, I don't know how you keep the pulp tone and move the character forward in history. I don't think you can do a 1970s thing and have it stay within the pulp sensibility, but if you lose that sensibility, then rare artifacts and non-Western societies and geopolitical rivalries I think risk becoming markedly less fun. Or you risk having Indiana Jones end up looking more like the third-order echoes of Indiana Jones like Lara Croft and Nathan Drake--that was what setting Indiana Jones' major adventures in the Nazi era did for the series, is keep it close to pulp roots.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Triforcer on March 23, 2016, 07:15:24 PM The major issue I can see is even if they go with "Old Indiana Jones" and have some non-progeny for his hand-off, I don't know how you keep the pulp tone and move the character forward in history. I don't think you can do a 1970s thing and have it stay within the pulp sensibility, but if you lose that sensibility, then rare artifacts and non-Western societies and geopolitical rivalries I think risk becoming markedly less fun. Or you risk having Indiana Jones end up looking more like the third-order echoes of Indiana Jones like Lara Croft and Nathan Drake--that was what setting Indiana Jones' major adventures in the Nazi era did for the series, is keep it close to pulp roots. Why not make this Nazi-era? It doesn't need to be a reboot but you can fudge his personal timeline a bit. Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Khaldun on March 23, 2016, 07:18:40 PM Seems pretty tough unless they decide Crystal Skull never happened.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: TheWalrus on March 23, 2016, 10:39:46 PM But really, wouldn't that be best for everyone involved?
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Cyrrex on March 24, 2016, 12:24:57 AM Crystal Skull is kind of like the Star Wars prequels to me...it is was the execution that was the problem. It was no more or less ridiculous than the others in the series, just terribly made.
And yeah, it was bad. I was literally angry after watching it, and I have a notably high tolerance for bullshit in movies. Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Merusk on March 24, 2016, 07:13:22 AM Exactly that, Cyrrex. Last Crusade was on a few weeks ago and I was ripping it apart as I watched just the catacomb scene. It was executed well, though, and I was a younger man when I watched it so things change. Most notably your ability or willingness to suspend disbelief.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Lakov_Sanite on March 24, 2016, 07:26:31 AM Can we just talk about ancient aliens for a sec? Cause aliens somehow affecting pre-historic cultures is a fucking awesome trope in adventure stories. I think crystal skull did it badly, really, really badly but let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater here.
I think the biggest sin was revealing too much and too soon. It was full on aliens from the start when in any other story it's a reveal that happens near the end and even then it's something mysterious and not fully clear if it really was aliens. The trope exists in many games to great effect, namely the tomb raider and drake series but tere are more and they dole it out well. There was so much ridiculousness in crystal skull it's easy to point out the most outlandish aspect but the entire movie was outlandish and ridiculous so of course the treatment of the extraterrestrial was equally so. In a better movie, with better writing, aliens would be fine. Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Venkman on March 24, 2016, 05:05:23 PM All of that. It was post-WWII peak-paranoia Roswell/Red Scare period, so the theme itself made sense. It was just, ya know, all of the execution that went sideways.
I didn't hate it. But I'll never watch it again even flipping channels. Which is about the strongest indictment I can come up with :oh_i_see: Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Mandella on March 24, 2016, 06:37:48 PM All the stuff you guys are saying is where I was trying to go with my comment, but I just couldn't word right.
The problem with Crystal Skull wasn't the nuked fridge or the space aliens or even the monkey vine swinging -- it was that every scene in the movie felt different. There was no coherent tone or plotting. It was just a mess, and I don't think it had anything to do with Ford or even LaBeouf. It was the writing and direction that was at fault. So I'll hold out some hope that they might be able to bring Indy back for one grand last blowout. Hey, maybe it'll be Indiana Jones in Spaaaaaaaaaacccceeeeee! Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: MahrinSkel on March 24, 2016, 09:02:59 PM Indiana Jones vs. The Moon Nazis would make more sense than Crystal Skull, and probably be more fun to watch.
--Dave Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Evildrider on March 24, 2016, 09:08:55 PM They already did aliens might as well move on to Old Ones. Indiana Jones and the Call of Cthulu.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Goreschach on March 25, 2016, 03:16:22 PM Because that would be totally out of place in the series with flaming heart transplants and face melting boxes.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Khaldun on March 25, 2016, 03:43:29 PM They could do a lot worse. I just don't think they're going to be able to do 70s-era bad guys really otherwise.
I suppose they could pull a Lethal Weapon and have it be set in South Africa with Indy against apartheid-era SA goons. I can actually think of a few appropriate McGuffins even, though they'd almost inevitably go for the King Solomon's Mines thing, which is not a comparison they want to invoke. Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Morat20 on March 26, 2016, 09:54:41 PM All of that. It was post-WWII peak-paranoia Roswell/Red Scare period, so the theme itself made sense. It was just, ya know, all of the execution that went sideways. Yeah, I could see where they were going with that. It fit right into the pulp focus of the 50s and the tensions there.....I didn't hate it. But I'll never watch it again even flipping channels. Which is about the strongest indictment I can come up with :oh_i_see: The concept "If we push Indiana Jones forward 10 or 20 years, that's the 50s....what's the weird crap, what was the pulp comics of the time into? Oh yeah, aliens and sci-fi." That part made sense. The execution was just....terrible. Nothing hung together right. Basically it's like they cut and replaced "religious artificial" with "alien thingy" and "Nazis" with "Russians" and threw that up on screen. No actual changes to the material, format, script, pacing, cinematography -- nothing to make it fit 50s pulp. Even if you got rid of stupid crap like the fridge, you'd still end up there -- it'd be all wrong because it was just a superficial adaptation. Indiana Jones worked because background, plot, story, and style all fit together. But the Crystal Skull was just fighting itself, because they didn't adapt everything. It was...lazy. They'd have been much better off, I think, finding someone who was both an Indiana Jones fan and a fan of 50s pulp sci-fi and told him "Look, we're doing 50s sci-fi now. How would Indiana Jones work in that world? But remember, it's 50s pulp -- not 40s serial. Don't just sand off the labels". Or hell, just rebooting it with a younger actor and given Ford a cameo. Maybe you can't shoehorn Indy into that time-period -- 50s is more about scientist-adventurers, not archaeologist-adventurers. Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Lakov_Sanite on March 26, 2016, 10:04:26 PM That's an interesting take but I would disagree because I don't think they just replaced nazis with russians and religion with aliens. If they HAD done that, kept the exact same formula and changed stuff around it would have been fine but this wasn't simply old indy with new trappings, the whole movie was a bloated mess that seemed to be trying too hard on every level.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Abagadro on March 26, 2016, 11:24:14 PM Indy should run around punching hippies in the face and finding some lost booga-booga that would totally win the Vietnam War if those stupid Top Men would just listen to him.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Khaldun on March 27, 2016, 04:50:09 AM Having Indy in Cambodia in the early 1970s could be edgy fun if they handled it right, but...that's nearly guaranteed to go wrong.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Merusk on March 27, 2016, 06:17:27 AM Indy meets a young John Rambo. Hijinks ensue. :awesome_for_real:
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Venkman on March 27, 2016, 06:37:24 AM THAT would be fun. Indiana Jones 5 sets up Expendables 3 :grin:
(http://chasingcinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/EXP3_20130826_03173_R.jpg) Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Merusk on March 27, 2016, 06:50:38 AM Either Harrison is shorter than I thought or Sly is wearing some bigass lifts.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Sir T on March 28, 2016, 05:41:23 AM Ford is 5' 11". Stallone is 5' 8".
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Jade Falcon on March 28, 2016, 06:34:06 AM They need shia labeouf returning as Indies son, stabbing him with excalibur so he can rule england.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: luckton on March 28, 2016, 06:48:49 AM They need shia labeouf returning as Indies son, stabbing himself with excalibur repeatedly. Fixed. :grin: Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Merusk on March 28, 2016, 08:16:36 AM Ford is 5' 11". Stallone is 5' 8". Yes, that's my point. Their eyeline and heads are at the same level in that photo. There is no 2" difference discernable. Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: WayAbvPar on March 28, 2016, 08:25:02 AM Indy should run around punching hippies in the face and finding some lost booga-booga that would totally win the Vietnam War if those stupid Top Men would just listen to him. Indiana Jones And The Search For Doctor Manhattan? (http://i.imgur.com/DqfAUxm.jpg) Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Abagadro on March 28, 2016, 05:18:46 PM Indiana Jones and the Giant Blue Dong.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Merusk on March 28, 2016, 06:16:22 PM All he'd be doing is asking about the location of his automobile.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Jeff Kelly on March 29, 2016, 04:37:11 AM According to the scuttlebutt Ford only agreed to star in a new Indiana Jones on two conditions
- No George Lucas - No Shia La Beouf Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Pennilenko on March 29, 2016, 07:21:55 AM According to the scuttlebutt Ford only agreed to star in a new Indiana Jones on two conditions That's amazing if true, since those are exactly the same conditions I have for paying to go see it.- No George Lucas - No Shia La Beouf Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Lakov_Sanite on March 29, 2016, 07:49:10 AM Ford is old and thinking of his legacy. He ended Han appropriately, he doesn't want Indy to end with crystal skull and while I'm not sure he can pull off super old indy I respect him for trying.
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Khaldun on March 29, 2016, 09:05:48 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0u4M6vppCI
Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Mandella on March 29, 2016, 09:53:05 AM Ford is old and thinking of his legacy. He ended Han appropriately, he doesn't want Indy to end with crystal skull and while I'm not sure he can pull off super old indy I respect him for trying. This. I was very pleasantly surprised at how well he was able to slip back into Han Solo in The Force Awakens, and that's whats giving me a lot of hope for another Indy. Plus, I really miss Ford doing fun characters after decades of "serious" acting roles. Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: MahrinSkel on March 29, 2016, 10:12:28 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0u4M6vppCI (http://i.imgur.com/brtDL8h.gif)Title: Re: Indiana Jones 5 - The Walking Stick of Justice Post by: Megrim on March 30, 2016, 02:51:30 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0u4M6vppCI I had a conversation about this recently. The premise for the movie should be: and ageing Indy & co are trekking through some jungle to find a long lost cannibal tribe. Its rumoured to be led by a great chief. They are captured and brought before the chief - surprise, its Actual Cannibal Shia LaBeouf. You can work a whole Heart of Darkness story into it and everything. It'd be great. |