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Title: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Lucas on December 13, 2015, 01:51:26 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbduDRH2m2M
Don't know about you guys, but I never knew they would come back. Anyway, "let's nuke the bastards"....again :oh_i_see: Title: Re: Indipendence Day: Resurgence Post by: Ironwood on December 13, 2015, 01:54:42 PM Odd timing; just watched this trailer. It looks... exactly as one would expect.
Also, you totally butchered the word 'Independence.' Just saying. Title: Re: Indipendence Day: Resurgence Post by: schild on December 13, 2015, 01:56:51 PM Such excite.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Lucas on December 13, 2015, 02:03:23 PM Odd timing; just watched this trailer. It looks... exactly as one would expect. Also, you totally butchered the word 'Independence.' Just saying. Whoops, wrote that in a hurry; als, the italian translation is "indipendenza" hence I made that typo :grin: ---- Anyway, I think the first movie showed us the first, let's say, "example" of a global internet campaign that produced quite a lot of hype, at least when it comes to movies: mini-games, lots of media content and the like. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Khaldun on December 13, 2015, 02:53:12 PM The aliens are going to come back and say, "We have assimilated McAfee Defender, so you cannot fuck with us any more". Jeff Goldblum will have to hunt down a Russian hacker who goes by the name Leetz who knows the SeKRIt vulNERbility in McAfee! Only there will be Chechen Muslim terrorists who must be convinced to allow the Goldblum to access Mr. Leetz, who it turns out is a 13-year old Muslim Chechen woman who smokes and is totes down with Taylor Swift. In the meantime, Replacement BlackPilot will need to punch something and the President will shout a speech but it is his daughter who will pilot a plane that shoot laser missiles into an EVEN BIGGAR ship that will totes destroy HUManiTY unless Chechen hacker uploads her amazing McAffee-destroying warez in time, but she is worried about being prosecuted by Bill Gates, who will make a cameo near the end where he gives her permission to destroy Windows 11 forever.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: calapine on December 13, 2015, 02:54:36 PM Hmmm. I wonder if such a cheesey movie still works nowadays...
It's Roland Emmerich again, so maybe there is a chance. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Evildrider on December 13, 2015, 04:46:12 PM i'll see it, at least it's not another reboot/remake. I also hope it makes a ton of money and Suicide Squad flops, and Will Smith goes and cries in the corner while beating Jada for being a lousy actress.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: lamaros on December 14, 2015, 12:29:27 AM The aliens are going to come back and say, "We have assimilated McAfee Defender, so you cannot fuck with us any more". Jeff Goldblum will have to hunt down a Russian hacker who goes by the name Leetz who knows the SeKRIt vulNERbility in McAfee! Only there will be Chechen Muslim terrorists who must be convinced to allow the Goldblum to access Mr. Leetz, who it turns out is a 13-year old Muslim Chechen woman who smokes and is totes down with Taylor Swift. In the meantime, Replacement BlackPilot will need to punch something and the President will shout a speech but it is his daughter who will pilot a plane that shoot laser missiles into an EVEN BIGGAR ship that will totes destroy HUManiTY unless Chechen hacker uploads her amazing McAffee-destroying warez in time, but she is worried about being prosecuted by Bill Gates, who will make a cameo near the end where he gives her permission to destroy Windows 11 forever. [/q] At the most you'll have shots of some Muslims in a corner celebrating after the Americans save them. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Velorath on December 14, 2015, 04:03:44 AM Hmmm. I wonder if such a cheesey movie still works nowadays... It's Roland Emmerich again, so maybe there is a chance. Everything Emmerich has done in the 20 years since ID4 suggests he had no idea he was making a cheesy movie the first time around. The guy just makes bad movies. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Lucas on December 14, 2015, 04:10:03 AM Interactive/hype website :grin:
http://www.warof1996.com/ Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: luckton on December 14, 2015, 04:22:11 AM Interactive/hype website :grin: http://www.warof1996.com/ And this is what failed contract negation looks like. :why_so_serious: (https://i.imgur.com/NEHOfq8.jpg) Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Ironwood on December 14, 2015, 04:28:38 AM Not that I care at all, but that's some serious bullshit.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: luckton on December 14, 2015, 04:36:48 AM Full irony: Site claims he died in '07, same year I Am Legend was released.
:awesome_for_real: Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Ironwood on December 14, 2015, 04:42:23 AM Does that mean he didn't have to Fucking Be There ?
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Ginaz on December 14, 2015, 06:18:59 AM Needs more Randy Quaid IMO.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Riggswolfe on December 14, 2015, 06:32:33 AM The first movie is a cheesy disaster movie with a shiny sci-fi alien invasion wrapping. It has cornball dialogue and predictable character and story beats.
I still love the damn thing. I'll probably go see this and enjoy it in spite of what it is, just like I did the last one. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: NowhereMan on December 14, 2015, 07:59:48 AM I have to admit, I really really like the idea of a post alien disaster/first contact type movie. These always seem to end with earth bravely standing in the post invasion rubble and what happens next is an area that hasn't been explored much. Admittedly I'm not expecting anything deep or interesting in terms of exploring the political situation, it's really just going to be 'Same as last time but now we've got laser rifles!' On a similar note to WWZ (the book not the movie of the same name) I think it would be really interesting to imagine what kind of effects an attempted alien invasion would have on human society.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: sickrubik on December 14, 2015, 08:14:00 AM Needs more Randy Quaid IMO. He's been a little... tied up. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Malakili on December 14, 2015, 08:35:43 AM Well, obviously I'm going to have to see it. I'm a little disappointed with no Will Smith, but Goldblum is enough on his own to warrant seeing the movie.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: jgsugden on December 14, 2015, 08:38:21 AM Big splosions. Cheese. No real story.
Get lit, turn off the brain and enjoy the pretty light show. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Pennilenko on December 14, 2015, 08:39:49 AM Big splosions. Cheese. No real story. Get lit, turn off the brain and enjoy the pretty light show. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Phildo on December 14, 2015, 08:54:02 AM X-Com squad is looking good in this.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: HaemishM on December 14, 2015, 09:34:19 AM Meh. I mean, I loved the first movie when it came out but it doesn't hold up well at all. Also Roland Emmerich makes really shitty movies. You can tell he's trying to be the less idiotic Michael Bay. My biggest problem with the trailer was the size of the rape ship. It just dwarfed everything and I'm thinking "HOW CAN THAT POSSIBLY EXIST?" Suspension of disbelief, thou art a cruel mistress.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Malakili on December 14, 2015, 09:42:53 AM Meh. I mean, I loved the first movie when it came out but it doesn't hold up well at all. Also Roland Emmerich makes really shitty movies. You can tell he's trying to be the less idiotic Michael Bay. My biggest problem with the trailer was the size of the rape ship. It just dwarfed everything and I'm thinking "HOW CAN THAT POSSIBLY EXIST?" Suspension of disbelief, thou art a cruel mistress. It's the sequel and it's now 2015. Everything has to be biggerer and betterer and MORE EXCITING! Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Slayerik on December 14, 2015, 11:19:38 AM No Will Smith? I might watch it...
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Shannow on December 14, 2015, 04:41:26 PM Xmen trailer, Star Trek trailer and this.
At least this movie is supposed to be crap so will probably be the most enjoyable of the three based on the trailers. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: calapine on December 14, 2015, 04:49:57 PM Hmmm. I wonder if such a cheesey movie still works nowadays... It's Roland Emmerich again, so maybe there is a chance. Everything Emmerich has done in the 20 years since ID4 suggests he had no idea he was making a cheesy movie the first time around. The guy just makes bad movies. I am aware of that. But that's would would make it "good". Ironic-cheese doesn't work. Btw, there is an actually "decent" Emmerich B-movie: Moon 44 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_44) Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: KallDrexx on December 14, 2015, 07:26:14 PM Like others have said, the first movie was great in no small part due to the cheesyness factor.
This one looks like it's trying to take itself too seriously. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Surlyboi on December 14, 2015, 08:21:38 PM I'm so there. I'll miss the "Welcome to EARF", but I'll yell that at inappropriate times during the movie just to male up for it.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Ruvaldt on December 14, 2015, 11:50:41 PM This one looks like it's trying to take itself too seriously. Jeff Goldblum is in a goddamned space suit. No one, including its creators, is taking this movie seriously. Also, this looks great. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: shiznitz on December 15, 2015, 01:03:03 PM Agree on both counts. I mean, all they did was make the alien ship bigger this time and give us better pew pew.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Tannhauser on December 16, 2015, 03:33:43 AM This movie has tons of potential Jeff Goldblum memes so I'm in. No Will Smith is a shame; would love to see a scene where they discuss Earth/Earf and the welcoming to it thereof.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Riggswolfe on December 16, 2015, 01:03:27 PM This movie has tons of potential Jeff Goldblum memes so I'm in. No Will Smith is a shame; would love to see a scene where they discuss Earth/Earf and the welcoming to it thereof. Honestly, I'm kind of done with Will Smith except in MiB. He's just gotten too obsessed with his stupid kid and he plays the same character in every movie. I'm fine with it in MiB because it fits but...meh. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Phildo on December 16, 2015, 02:32:49 PM Shame on him for being a father that is obsessed with his children. Shame.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: jgsugden on December 16, 2015, 02:34:52 PM He is an actor. He gets paid to entertain. If he makes horrible movies, it is our own dang fault for getting him paid for them.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Evildrider on December 16, 2015, 03:50:23 PM He is an actor. He gets paid to entertain. If he makes horrible movies, it is our own dang fault for getting him paid for them. Well to be fair, I am sure most of us made him famous before his string of shitty movies. It didn't save him from releasing some box office bombs. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: angry.bob on December 16, 2015, 07:40:22 PM Shame on him for being a father that is obsessed with his children. Shame. His sin is not that he is a father obsessed with his children. His sin is that his children are talentless, self-absorbed retards with beliefs that anything they say or do is groundbreaking or profound. And because of his pull, Will Smith continues to inflict them upon us, and will continue to do so until he dies. On that day, we will finally be free of his stupid fucking children, except for whatever vanity projects they shit away their inheritance funding. THat he is proud of them and actually seems to believe that we should all be thankful for all the things Jaden does for us is his sin. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Evildrider on December 16, 2015, 07:47:15 PM I only have a problem with Jaden.. that kid is so far up his own ass I don't know how he hasn't died of oxygen deprivation.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Speedy Cerviche on December 17, 2015, 06:15:48 AM I actually find him entertaining.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Sir T on December 17, 2015, 06:42:39 AM One thing Will Smith has is charisma. And yet he played a character with zero charisma in "After Earth" to try and make his son look good. That's not bieng proud, that's insanity.
I'm just surprised some Hollywood exec hasn't taken him behind the studio bikeshed and beaten some sense into him. Is Smith THAT powerful?? Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: palmer_eldritch on December 17, 2015, 08:55:57 AM I'm pretty hyped for this film.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Velorath on December 17, 2015, 02:53:33 PM I'm pretty hyped for this film. Movies written and directed by Roland Emmerich since ID4: - Godzilla (the Matthew Broderick one) - The Day After Tomorrow - 10,000 BC - 2012 Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: lamaros on December 17, 2015, 03:52:34 PM I've only seen two of those, but they were great for what they were.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Rendakor on December 17, 2015, 04:09:44 PM Day After Tomorrow and 2012 were both decent set-piece apocalypse movies; Godzilla 2000 was shit, and I didn't see 10,000 BC. Psyched for ID42.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: angry.bob on December 19, 2015, 06:37:40 PM I've only seen two of those, but they were great for what they were. But you're also proven to be wrong about everything. Literally nothing that you've written here has ever been correct or stood up to being questioned. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Soulflame on December 20, 2015, 08:26:39 AM I've seen Day after Tomorrow (hate it) and 2012 (hate it possibly worse) so... yeah.
You made me agree with Angry Bob. Fuck. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Lantyssa on December 20, 2015, 08:51:00 AM I haven't seen 2012. I don't even remember the plot, but I remember raging at Day After Tomorrow.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Soulflame on December 20, 2015, 11:15:10 AM 2012 is John Cusack and the world is flooding oh shit plus other assorted improbable disasters because neutrinos from solar flare or Darwin knows what and subs that are launched from the Himalayas which can hold 100,000 people each which are selected by lottery or reserved because of super importance and somehow John Cusack and family stow away on subs launched from the Himalayas and whew the water recedes 27 days later yay.
I think that's all one needs to know to feel that the movie is complete shit. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Teleku on December 20, 2015, 12:10:48 PM Eh, it actually had some good destruction scenes, nice effects, and decent pacing. That's all you can really ask for. It didn't hide the fact that it was purely a disaster porn flick. So I don't think you can call it a shit movie for doing what it set out to do very well (unless you think it was a terrible disaster movie and bad at the genre). I mean trying to make a decent, logical plot in a straight disaster movie is a terrible waste of resources as it does nothing to improve the film, IMO.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: lamaros on December 20, 2015, 02:25:18 PM I saw San Andreas recently. 2012 and Day After Tomorrow are the height of cinema in comparison. They are good disaster films.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Ironwood on December 20, 2015, 03:03:44 PM Nah.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: angry.bob on December 20, 2015, 08:13:58 PM I haven't seen 2012. I don't even remember the plot, but I remember raging at Day After Tomorrow. Mutated neutrinos heat the Earth's core enough to cause it to melt. Now that the Earth has a core of molten planet-stuff instead of whatever the writers believe is normally there, the earth loses it's axis. This of course causes the ground to open up, chunks of land to go flying, and the sea level to rise to the top of Mount Everest in a day. But other parts of the planet like Africa - not underwater. None of that is made up, or even stretched for effect. That is exactly what is in the movie. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Velorath on December 20, 2015, 08:18:39 PM Eh, it actually had some good destruction scenes, nice effects, and decent pacing. That's all you can really ask for. It didn't hide the fact that it was purely a disaster porn flick. So I don't think you can call it a shit movie for doing what it set out to do very well (unless you think it was a terrible disaster movie and bad at the genre). I mean trying to make a decent, logical plot in a straight disaster movie is a terrible waste of resources as it does nothing to improve the film, IMO. If someone sets out to take a shit on my doorstep I don't applaud them for achieving their goals when they manage to do it. Demolishing shit with CG is one of the lowest hanging fruits filmmakers can go for in movies. Also, at least San Andreas had Alexandra Daddario in wet clothing so that puts it above Emmerich's stuff. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: lamaros on December 21, 2015, 04:37:18 PM You can see stuff like that for free on the internet, if that's all you care about.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: angry.bob on December 21, 2015, 06:58:55 PM Sure. But if you're going to sit through a terrible disaster movie with a star in wet clothing, Alexandra Daddario is clearly preferable to John Cusack. Check and mate.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Fabricated on December 21, 2015, 08:21:25 PM Interactive/hype website :grin: http://www.warof1996.com/ And this is what failed contract negation looks like. :why_so_serious: (https://i.imgur.com/NEHOfq8.jpg) Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Azazel on December 25, 2015, 06:11:24 PM Interactive/hype website :grin: http://www.warof1996.com/ And this is what failed contract negation looks like. :why_so_serious: (https://i.imgur.com/NEHOfq8.jpg) I misread that at first as "Col Hitler" :why_so_serious: Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: MahrinSkel on June 27, 2016, 08:18:45 AM Saw this over the weekend: It was much better than I expected. Not great, it's still a summer CGI-driven blockbuster, but it was decently done, visually very impressive, and most of the times I laughed it was because I was supposed to. The bad logic doesn't punch you in the face the way the original did.
If you want to see a movie, and everything else at the theater is kid movies or bullshit, it's not a waste of money. --Dave Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Merusk on June 27, 2016, 09:25:50 AM So does it get campy like the original or did it stay just this side of the 'too serious' line so avoided being unintentionally tongue-in-cheek.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: MahrinSkel on June 27, 2016, 09:42:26 AM It has campy moments, I think, but they mostly seem to be deliberate invocations or subversions of the unintentional camp of the original. The punch in the face, for example. Generally, it manages to stay on the right side of the 'too serious' line.
--Dave Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Velorath on June 27, 2016, 05:31:32 PM If you want to see a movie, and everything else at the theater is kid movies or bullshit, it's not a waste of money. I disagree and I didn't even have to pay to watch it. It's a nostalgia cash grab that's like every movie Emmerich has made since the original in that it once again proves he has no idea what people liked about ID4 in the first place. Five people including Emmerich have a screenwriting credit on this thing, none of the new characters have any sort of charisma, and the end of the movie is a video game final boss fight. It's not even bad in any sort of interesting or entertaining way, it's just entirely forgettable. The most charitable thing I can say about it is that it's nice to see Judd Hirsch getting work in movies. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Pagz on June 28, 2016, 07:41:03 AM I feel bad that I like this, but it's probably because I've been playing way too much Stellaris.
A sequal to this will be the closest thing to a Mass Effect movie we'll ever get. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Khaldun on June 28, 2016, 09:05:36 AM Reminds me of Greg Bear's Anvil of Stars if it were done right, but it's not going to be with Emmerich in charge of it.
I could see a ID3 where they find out the aliens left a doomsday device that can't be stopped (say, self-assembling mass drivers on half the asteroids of our solar system, aimed at Earth) but the alliance that made the Sphere offers to relocate humanity to several extraterrestrial systems and grant us access to a jumpgate network, as long as we also join the armada of former victims who are going to genocide the evil locust aliens once and for all. Take all the ID2 characters and put them on one ship in a ragtag fleet of former victims and you could get some interesting bottle drama about committing genocide as well as all sorts of fun Star Trek stuff about meeting up with tons of aliens, followed by a big ship battle at the home planet of the locust aliens. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Mac on June 29, 2016, 04:10:58 AM This movie is stupid awesome, as in awesome in it's stupidity.
I want them to make ID3. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Mac on June 29, 2016, 04:22:17 AM Edit: Double post
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: calapine on June 29, 2016, 06:11:45 AM Well, double posts happen. But 12 minutes apart? :grin:
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Mac on June 29, 2016, 09:53:14 AM Dunno what happened there, probably got distracted by a squirrel.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Merusk on July 05, 2016, 06:49:53 PM I felt like the original cast and whitebread hero were the only ones who had any fun at all with this. Everyone else really seemed to take it too seriously.
Spiner and Goldblum saved the movie from being totally awful by hamming it up just right. The most amusement I had was tracking the identical story beats in this back to ID4 and Jurassic Park. Sign of a bad movie: you have to steal jokes whole cloth from the actor's previous movies. ID3 is happening, it was already in pre-production prior to this release and it's made double its budget in the first two weeks. That should be fun if everyone loosens up a bit. Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Evildrider on July 05, 2016, 07:39:45 PM I wasn't upset by this. The old cast members saved it for me mainly though. I didn't think anyone was really a standout out of the young cast. Hemsworth being the strongest out of all of them. Pullman, Goldblum, and a batty Spiner had all the best lines and scenes. I think Judd Hirsch wasn't used well at all and he might as well have not even been in the movie.
Title: Re: Independence Day: Resurgence Post by: Venkman on July 07, 2016, 06:24:03 PM I enjoyed it. Oddly, I enjoyed it more after thinking about it than during it, which seems, like, the opposite of how things should work :-)
The one thing that felt off was that this was even more squarely an America-first movie than the last one, which at least attempted to show vinettes and talk a bit more about and to other nations. Here is was the American POTUS leading the world leaders and almost-exclusively-Americans saving the world. I'm curious how this was re-edited for China. Anyone know? I could see Moon general guy getting more airtime, and his daughter being the one who kills the Queen rather than midwestern boy, at the very least. Kuala Lumpar crashing into London was fun. But an alien craft taking over the entire Atlantic ocean was a huge missed SFX opportunity for a tidal wave/tsunami wiping out everything from Bar Harbor to Denver. |