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http://toxikk.com/

Has anyone played this yet? I'm tempted to dig up 4 of you and get the $45 tier. $11.25 a piece seems pretty good for what seems to be Unreal Tournament.

I would... but you humiliated me so badly in UT that I don't think I'm over the emotional scars.

Wow Reakktor Studios, there's a name from the past.

The Onslaught mode game play with the vehicles looked interesting, but I actually like the Battlefield series of unlocks.  :why_so_serious:

Weren't we just ripping on the "Early Access" model in another thread?  This isn't even in playable beta yet it looks like.

Fuck Battlefield.

Eh, I thought you got Beta Access immediately.

I'm terrible but if you need a filler once this turns into a game, let me know.

Yes, it has an apostrophe in lets, that's just a copy/paste.

So it's not a clever name, they are just terrible at grammar and spelling.

It's been a while since I've done arena FPS.  I would play this at least once.

If it's like UT I'll totally play it and own the rest of you.  :grin:

I'd totally own the loserboard.

You've always been the youngest of all of us, so yea, probably (well, you and Strazos). Unless you've somehow started aging faster in the last 7 years.

Hmm, first Quake Live comes to steam, now this thing is coming.  Maybe deathmatch is making a comeback.

If we make an over 40 sub-League, I'm in.

This is in a better position than Quake Live if it doesn't suck simply because they lifted skins and such from LoL.

I'd go in on a m-m-m-multi pack.

Same, looks like fun.

Although, not F2P means it likely won't have anyone playing except hardcores.

Couldn't they have just done F2P and sold skins for guns/players/vehicles?

This is now on Steam Early Access. People seem to like it even though it's not finished.

It's on my Watchlist on Steam - I'm moderately interested.  I used to be a fairly serious FPS player but then I got old and now I suck.  Be interested in giving it a whirl with F13 folks.

I thought I posted but - if someone wants to buy a 4 pack, send me a key and tell me where to send my money.

If this wasn't Early Access, I'd be all for it.

Comeon, someone buy a goddamn 4 pack, let's do this thing.

So how many we got?

1999? No RA2, no care.

Looks like at least 4.

Only reason I am not jumping on it is because I am not even close to your timezones, I am sure. But I am probably gonna get it anyway so if you need a fourth for the pack count me in.

Falconeer, Lesion, shoot me PMs with your Steam names.

Looks interesting. Let us know what it's like.

PM sent, Fabricated. Thanks!

This is pretty good outside of the obscenely long respawn times on weapons, the rocket launcher being like a zillion times better than all other weapons (like standard for arena FPS titles but way way the case here), and the default mouse sensitivity and acceleration being literally Hitler.  Also character model design is awful.

Still a lot of fun though.

The rocket launcher is so fucking good. The game is creatively bankrupt. Balance is a disaster.

That said, worth it.

Every weapon that isn't the rocket launcher needs work. There's an assault rifle/grenade launcher thing called the "violator" (ugh) and a pulse gun/shockcannon combo without the cool synergy between primary/secondary called the stingray.

Violator fires fast-moving bullets, secondary uses the same ammo pool to launch grenades. Stingray fires slightly slower energy shots at pretty much the same rate of fire with a railgun laser shot as the secondary.

These guns work almost exactly the same way and have a teeny-tiny ammo pool so like 3 seconds of shooting runs you completely out of ammo which is very sparely placed in the level. Both guns need changed badly to be more unique. Start pistol sucks shit. Not Q3A machinegun useless, but still really lame compared to UT's enforcer. Shotgun is bad and fires ridiculously slow. Sniper Rifle feels really really bad. Flamethrower is useless. Pretty much the only gun that doesn't fire slower than it should is the rocket launcher which owns the shit out of all the weapons because rocket launcher and its ammo pool is far more efficient.

Absolutely pointless cloak that lasts 2 seconds is present for some reason.

In general ammo needs to be a LOT  more prevalent and not stacked in random groups for like 3 different weapons. For obviously wanting to be a new UT99 they didn't study their map design very well. Weapon respawn times are hideously long which encourages camping.

Yet strangely, still a whole lot of fun.

If this is even decent it will be the first decent deathmatcher in a decade.  Initial reactions sound hopeful.

There's a good base to work from, but as all things they can either fix it or fuck it up worse. Also there's the question if enough people even want it outside of people like me who loved UT99.

Like, I like that they will give out a free SDK and have their own portal (or steam workshop, whatever) for user created content. And that they're going to let people make mutators like UT. Would people care enough to do so now? Who knows.

This game really isn't nearly as ambitious as it should be. They wasted too much time on stupid shit.

It is, however, brainless fun.

Looking at it, I agree. I really wish they had taken the game further.

I'd really like to see an Arena shooter designed with Titanfall esque air fuckery in mind. Maybe like a mix between Titanfall infantry combat and Tribes.

As it stands now all it looks like is a really average arena shooter.

I want Reflex also. Who wants to go in on a 4-pack of that shit.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/328070/

That's not quite what I meant. I'm fine with the base being an arena shooter. But that's like, all it's doing and it's barely doing that well enough.

Reflex does that q3a speedjumping shit and I hate that.

My first reaction was "They used the Unreal engine to make... Unreal Tournament?".

Its fun, I felt a channeling of Q3 Arena so far... but TBH, I'm not sure it measures up to Q3 yet.

It's far more like UT than it is Q3A really with the dodgejumps and doublejumping and lack of strafe-jumping. Also how the weapons all have alternate firemodes.

Is is like Q3A where the rocket launcher is ridiculously better than all of the other guns by a mile right now though.

Patch.



Big nerf to the rocket launcher.

Weapon spawn times are literally hitler and it needs to be weaponstay or 4-5 seconds or something.

Recent patches nerfing the rocket launcher and buffing some of the other weapons has made this more interesting. It didn't mix up the weapons people use QUITE enough since everyone is now using the nottheshockrifle instead of the rocket launcher but you see some variety now.

Flamethrower is still hilariously bad however.

Am I allowed to play?  :grin:

Also, would we be having servers for this, like in the olden days? My ping is still probably sufficient to play from Mexico.

The first 16-player CTF map with vehicles was added this week. Pretty okay, but again no weaponstay and sparse placement make me sad.

Is there a grappling hook yet?

Not that I noticed.

90% of what keeps me from playing this more is the fact that 90% of the servers have enormously shitty pings for me for some reason, and that the devs seem to think that having ammo or guns is a bad thing so they place as few weapon/ammo spawns as possible and have ludicrously long weapon respawns by default.

Remaining 10% is the utterly uninspired models. The maps look just fine IMO, even good maybe. The weapons are just kinda silly looking and the player models are all generic powerarmor helmet guys.

No surprises there from the team that brought you Neocron*

*I love Neocron, it too has great maps and shitty player rmodels!

New build with a new deathmatch map. New map is good outside of the devastator knockoff being way too easy to get to and there still not being enough mini health/armor and ammo around.

Toxikk looks good, but the new UT is totally free and is now available to download.

http://www.unrealtournament.com/

It's the 'pre-alpha' right now, but core gameplay is there and it's very UT.

Yeah, Toxikk kinda had its lunch suddenly ate by the new UT being community developed with the newer version of the same engine.

Toxikk did however drop a new update just today with their interpretation of Deck 17 and it is really good.

This is free now.

With the new Unreal Tournament free too, I doubt this will see any more action anyway.