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I really can't believe that DAOC is still around, but UO has a reasonable amount of life because nobody else has done anything like it. It'd be nice to see a bit more activity on it.

It'd be cheaper to just do a search for 'DAOC' on youtube.

In related news possibly covered elsewhere, EA is shutting down Lord of Ultima (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/210656/EA_shutting_down_Lord_of_Ultima_freetoplay_browser_game_in_May.php), Barnett's F2P iOS thing.

Which leaves Dungeon Keeper iOS as Mythic's only remaining game.

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So, have they found a way to stop the volunteer workforce from suing them, then?

How is this for a "blast from the past"?

http://www.uo.com/article/Return-Counselors

Heh, memories of being a counselor myself...hmm, 14 years ago (a few months before the introduction of Trammel)  :ye_gods: :ye_gods:

Bush-packed Supreme Court?

EA gets to shed properties that likely aren't making them any money, DAoC and UO get a studio that might be able to put resources into further development that EA would not have signed off on. Broadsword is probably a skeleton crew level shop in comparison.

If you aren't a customer of either game, yes it's a *meh* and drive on.

Which leaves Dungeon Keeper iOS as Mythic's only remaining game.

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Yep, that was the one. I must have stopped paying attention after the fourth or fifth Paul Barnett video.

Okay folks, DAoC has... quite a history, and there's a reason it shouldn't be on Greenlight. Let me explain.
First, I'm a DAoC vet of 8 years, and I think it's probably one of the best MMORPGs ever made. Why don't I want it on Steam?
When EA bought Mythic, things changed. There were 3 founders of Mythic who have big names. Currently, only one is left. Rob Denton. That one person has been put in charge of a new division, Broadsword, currently in charge of DAoC. It's him, and Paul Barnett. You remember them. Paul was the British guy that hyped the shit out of WAR and is notorious for being obsessed with wringing as much money out of something as he can.
Remember the latest Dungeon Keeper mobile disaster? That was Paul and Rob.
According to several people who worked for EA Mythic (including the famous EA Louse) Rob Denton was responsible for a toxic work environment at Mythic and spent most of his time doing top level maneuvering, forcing people out of their jobs, climbing higher on the corporate ladder. When the shit hit the fan with WAR, he pinned all the blame on Mark Jacobs. Here's a snippet from EA Louse (who according to Jacobs, only touched on the tip of the iceberg).
"Rob was never there during the development of Warhammer. We always joked about when his next weekly holiday was coming. (Answer? Next week!) Mark [Jacobs, former Mythic general manager] was not available, was way too head down trying to design his own contributions or whatever. Rob always handled things. We were told NOT to speak with Mark in person, never, or else we would be explaining to Rob. Rob was responsible for the entire project, then blamed Mark when things went wrong."
Mark Jacobs left Mythic when the company merged with BioWare last year, something that shocked employees at the time. EA Louse claims that he never willingly left, but was instead fired.
"It is a culture of fear, especially since Mark Jacobs was fired. Oh, he left voluntarily you say? No, he was fired, and everything placed on his shoulders by those closest to him so they could divide his salary and annual bonus. I bet Rob is enjoying that sweet new Maserati he bought after leaving the knife in his partner of 15 years." EA Louse (http://www.1up.com/news/ea-louse-blows-lid-old-republic-budget-warhammer-failure)
When the DAoC IP went up for bid, he blocked the news from Mark Jacobs (founder of Mythic and creator of DAoC, more or less), and threatened employees if they were seen talking to Mark. Mark practically begged for a chance to buy his creation back when he DID find out. (someone sneaked the news to him in a coffee shop and then quickly left because there were still EA eyes on Jacobs).
Mythic is dead and gone. It's a shame, because I love Dark Age of Camelot, and Broadsword actually seems to be trying to revive it, unlike the people in charge of it for the last 6 years. But giving money to them is basically giving money to the worst sort of people from EA.
To get that DAOC feel I have no choice but to either play Elderscrolls Online (which was made by Matt Firor, one of the 3 Mythic founders) or wait for Camelot Unchained (new MMO from Jacobs).
Please, do not let EA get away with this kind of shit. Don't give money to a morally bankrupt person.

I never disliked Jacobs, even when he was shilling here if I remember correctly. Just misguided.

I voted down both of them. Talk about perverting the whole idea of Greenlight.