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Rust (http://store.steampowered.com/app/252490/) is currently the number 2 seller on Steam. It's early access. It's a first-person survival game ala DayZ but with pseudo-Minecraft building elements. I think it is awesome and it reminds me of the fun parts of UO, except the equivalent of building spoon staircases is a part of the game.

(http://i.imgur.com/OlJY1cV.jpg)

The core loop of the game is this - you spawn completed naked at a random location in the world with a rock, a torch, and two bandages. You hit trees and rocks with your rock to get wood and stone/metal, you craft those into tools, repeat ad infinitum. A single day in Rust is a 45 minute day followed by a 15 minute night. There are currently zombies in the game, though the plan is to phase those out in favor of something else (same with the modern military weapons). You get new recipes and research kits via zombies (or airdrops, that occur once every ingame day at a random location in the world).

You can also use those materials to craft housing pieces. Foundations, pillars, walls, doors, doorways, crates, etc. - your structures persist in the world after disconnecting from the server. You can place a sleeping bag to pick that as a new spawn point. The most rudimentary structures you can craft have wooden doors that can be hacked down by persistent players, but as your structures get more complex, they start requiring explosives, which are a big resource sink, so it turns into a game of risk vs reward on how much C4 it's going to cost to break into someone's building versus the potential reward. You can also hide a bunch of huts in the hills and live like a drifter.

If you die, you drop everything. There is no character progression outside of learning recipes, which persists through death.

Servers hold 100-300 people and your character is persistent to that server. There are various types of servers, but I believe under the default settings, it is full PvP, you fall asleep when you disconnect from the server (to prevent disconnecting in the middle of fights), and crafting items takes a certain amount of time to do.

Usually there is a big alliance on a server that bullies the smaller bullies, and so on. The defeats are bitter but the victories are so, so sweet.

(http://i.imgur.com/EIq9qQ8.jpg)

There is a map of the world on rustmap.net (http://rustmap.net) - size-wise, I'd say it would probably take 20-30 minutes if you were to run from one side of the playable space to the other completely unmolested.

ANYWAYS I play on a central/east coast server I think, when you're in the game you can hit F1 to pop open the console and type net.connect "216.155.128.50:28085" to connect to my server. Or play on a PvE server or some other official server. Also, while you're there, type "censor.nudity false" to get the full dick glory. This game has caveman dicks.

Another good tip is using the console command "grass.on false" to cut down on the grass in the world so you can see things like chickens and fallen backpacks easier.

This is, with Nether, Infestation, and 7 Days to Die, at least the fourth game that tries to do what Day Z is doing but better and sooner. What's annoying is that so far seems like none of them gets to recreate the incredible atmosphere of Day Z and it's amazing engine. At the same time, they ALL have more features than Day Z, which is a big deal. I am really interested exactly because of the UO parallelism (which was true for all the afore mentioned games too), but I thought I was done with early-access games that are so far away from being stable or feature-full. Glad to hear this is already better than I thought.

I have a few specific questions for you Non: would you say exploration is interesting or the world is mostly copypaste and feels dead? And combat is at least decent and responsive, especially melee?

While a lot of fun, it is not what you are looking for. I've read your posts for a pretty long time now and I do not think this will measure up to your standards.

I am really curious to what my standards are supposed to be, but anyway you might be surprised. I like princess simulators, truck driving games, merciless pvp MMOs and a few other oddities.
Maybe you are referring to the exploration standards? If so you could be right as the world seems to be completely empty and dull at the moment.

I havent played this myself, but I've seen someone in beta in a stream. Its basiclly running around like a madman gathering wood and stune to made guns before THE OTHERS find you. He was hiding in his house with the lights off at night as people can see a light inside your starter house and will attack. Big reason to build a fort is that you can have a light on in your house at night as the walls block it. When you see someone its an occasion for panic and hiding. You are scrambelling around looking for the parts to make a gun. Its running from dogs at the start as you have nothing to fight them with until you build an axe. I don't know what the later play is like, but I have a feeling that if you did not get in there at the start its you with an axe against a bunch of guys with machine guns and aircraft.

Interesting concept if you are into that kind of thing.

I've played Rust some, watched it streamed more, so I'll provide a few insights.   The map is static and kinda small.  The area around the road is currently the only place where mobs and resources actually spawn so, in essence, the map is even smaller than you would think.  Night time is harsh as well.  You see nothing unless there is a light source nearby.  A full moon will reveal absolutely nothing.  There are no day-only servers (unless that has recently changed) so plan do to housekeeping or crafting for 15 min after 45 min of daytime.

While building complex forts are interesting, the walls are shitty and people can see storage boxes through the cracks, so instead of blasting through your multiple door complex, they build a quick ramp up and blow through your wall.  Unless you have huge forts with interior rooms or metal walls, which means you are probably already in some alliance which protects your shit while you are offline.  If you don't, it would probably be better to treat each play session as a unique experience.  Don't expect to log in the next morning with anything except a long trek naked back to your violated fort.

Overall it's very fun while you are on a streak or playing with friends, but there's a lot of frustration too.

Right now you hit trees and rocks and hope you can make something before a horde of killers destroys you. Also, the horde of killers never appear to log off. There is no self mapping system. The UI is so minimal its painful. The crafting is weird, in that you build a stone furnace and with no tools other than a wood table you can craft military grade weapons.

The PVP is cool if you can find an empty server and get a head start before people show up.  Other than that I enjoy the fort building on PVE servers, but there just isn't enough there  yet to make a game out of. It is a fun little alpha to run around, but it is not really a "game" yet in my opinion. It is way to shallow at this time.

I almost bought this because it sounded kind of interesting, but based on the discussion here I'm thinking I'd rather buy it for Surly so he can play it for me and write about his experiences.

The game is definitely very alpha right now. This game is screaming for all kinds of systems to smooth out the rough edges and have more things to do than be a bandit simulator. But currently, if you can get a foothold, it is very very fun.

With all of these games I assume the main point of PvP is to stop people realising how boring, or non-existent, the gameplay is.

Are there any non-pvp type servers?  I know it sounds carebear as fuck, but I would probably just want to make my shit in peace any worry about what the environment throws at me rather than worry if xxXKillarDudeXxx is going to gank me and take my stuff.

Edit: NM, looks like I missed the part about pve servers.  Can people destroy your houses and stuff on the pve servers?

Yes. They can also take your stuff while you are offline or sleeping. However that takes a tremendous amount of resources, so what is more common is they just blow a door or wall up and then loot what you have stored and move on.

Is there a single player mode?

No

I hope that one of these sorts of games succeeds in actually making a game worth playing.  Minecraft mods seem to still outpace most, if not all, of them.

They should fucking combine them all together. None of them has enough money or time to do a whole game, but if only we could put together the crafting and mining of 7 Days to Die and Rust, the visuals and realism of Day Z, and the missions and progression of War Z, we would probably have a full PvP survival game worth playing for more than three weeks.

The wall of Ego will never be breached, so such co-operation will never happen.

New update came out, night is more realistic, or at least on some servers.

Changelogs can be found here:
http://playrust.com/

Hard not to crosspost this and hard to decide in which thread to put it, but this is a conversation that spawned on Twitter between Dean "Rocket Hall, creator of Day Z, and Garry Newman, creator of Garry's Mod and Rust. The cool part is that in the past few days Rocket stated more than once that Day Z is too unfinished to be worth buying and people should look into Rust instead, while Garry Newman declared in all his interviews that the reasons they started Rust is because they were totally in love with Day Z and wanted to make it "more reliable". It was only natural that these two were eventually going to talk, but the way it happened is kind of cute. Not to mention that it is awesome that they don't see each other as a threat even though their games clearly overlap in more than one way.

I secretely hope that their private conversations will make both games better. Soon.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/Dean%20Hall%20Garry%20Newman.png)

Rust removes zombies (http://playrust.com/6th-feb-update/), twisting more and more towards humans being the real monsters (in case you were wondering: no, Rust is not any less evil than Day Z and I would say there's more Killing On Sight in Rust than Day Z. Average character life in Rust is about 8 minutes).

Yeah. Fuck that shit. I will tilt at a ton of fucking windmills but I probably can't fix these assholes.

So yeah,"penis brothers" (http://kotaku.com/penis-brothers-force-you-to-take-your-pants-off-in-ru-1517402503) is a thing.

I both love and loathe the Internet.  :ye_gods: :why_so_serious:

Game needs facial recognition software and access to the facebook/G+ api. 

I feel I am missing a bit of context ? What assholes ? The devs ? The players ?

The players. This explains why DayZ has been such a walk in the park lately, all the real shitheels are in Rust.

I'm always happy when there is a new strip of flypaper out for them. Makes things nicer elsewhere.

There's plenty of flies to go around.

I gotta say... that video was awesome.  I loved the one guy with an assault rifle taking out five of the naked shrieking cavemen before they dogpiled him and beat him to death with rocks.  Way better than zombies.

How can you not love "have you heard about our lord and savior jizzes christ... the second cumming?".

Devblog #9 is out (http://playrust.com/friday-devblog-9/)

The bad news is that since they sold 1.6 million keys they decided the code wasn't solid enough so they pretty much started all over from scratch. Meaning it will take a long time before this is anywhere closed to a finished game. The good news is that they are making it look better, and... well... creating a lot more clothing options...

NSFW?

Clothes made of... mud?  :awesome_for_real:

and pieces of hand drawn tires.

There are no significant news about Rust, and there haven't been for a while now, but development keeps going, apparently, although as a hobby (see below). Rust got several million dollars thanks to Steam Early Access around this time last year, and since then eccentric lead Dev Garry Newman decided to scratch pretty much all the work done (and that people paid for) to restart under a new engine, from Source to Unity if I am not mistaken. Which is what we have now. Needless to say, the game is light years away from any kind of complete state and since 2013 lots and lots of similar games have caught up and have probably already surpassed Rust both in terms of content and potential.

What I find fascinating though is how Garry Newman defines his company when asked for a Roadmap (http://playrust.com/devblog-38/) (since, you know, people have been waiting for substantial progress for a while now):


Here's said "Mindmap".  (http://mind42.com/mindmap/7abd1334-d170-42e7-b869-f74010b9b143)

At least he admits it's just a hobby.  :awesome_for_real:

I like the idea of a mindmap for indie development actually, considering 90% of it is a mental circlejerk for arteests and nothing more.

I wish I could get millions for my fucking hobbies.

You're in the wrong business.  Murder/sadism sandboxes are licenses to print money.  You don't even have to release anything!  Just say "new engine" and go fuck off for a year.

Should pick hobbies where people actually spend money.

Rust is considering to add poop. Not sure if only as a taunt or as a necessity too.

Can you use catapults to fling these feces longer distances?

Not that I was ever really tempted, but I shall keep this in mind as a reminder to never ever buy Rust.

Would it be safe to say the developers are focusing on useless shit?  :why_so_serious:

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAHPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

When is anal raping your fallen foes getting patched in?

Right after the kiddie pool with a shark.

The same sociopathic game that has poop and a massive amount of cocks, recently introduced a tool to create signs in game. People are of course using it for something different. Note that this is not art imported in the game, it is 100% made with an in-game tool.


(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/RUST%20QXtTQ4e.jpg)


(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/RUST%20Z4MkV4W.jpg)


(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/RUST%209s4fr33.jpg)


(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/RUST%20StaZzTD.jpg)


And here are some time lapse of someone reproducing

- Munch's Scream - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m4Y-uCp0ok

- Van Gogh's Starry Night - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWoOhLxOGRk

Well, cave paintings, the first art ever, probably started with people drawing with their shit, so those rather lovely drawings seem oddly appropriate given the earlier posts.

In Rust, the size of your penis is determined by your Steam ID (http://www.pcgamer.com/your-rust-dong-size-is-determined-by-your-steam-id/?ns_campaign=article-feed&ns_mchannel=ref&ns_source=steam&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0) (and can't be changed).

(!!! NSFW!!! ) http://files.facepunch.com/garry/2015/June/21/2015-06-21_18-08-58.mp4 (!!! NSFW !!!)

 :why_so_serious:

What is this... I don't even...

I'm reminded of that, ahem, anatomically correct George Bush in a flight suit doll.

"emergent" gameplay.

I notice it does not affect thickness.

Can of soda, anyone?

*edit* Oh yes, the article goes onto mention that females are going to be added to the game. Let joy be unconfined.

(http://i.imgur.com/qyK2MNdl.jpg)

It's obviously a brilliant ploy to sell more copies--keep churning new Steam accounts and re-buy the game until you get an account whose avatar is sufficiently endowed.

Or churn accounts and sell the good ones.

The really smart people will just reverse-engineer the hash function they're probably using and then generate new Steam accounts accordingly. If the devs used a cryptographically-secure hash, then finding "big" account IDs will be like mining bitcoins. Except for virtual dongs.

On females being added to the game:


Picture of the WIP models under the spoiler tag.*NSFW*

Is this game the Dwarf Fortress of zombie survival games?

I thought they got rid of the zombies.

Yes. No more zombies. The only danger are other humans. And some wildlife, eventually.

Wow. :awesome_for_real:

So without buying the game I'll never know how big my Steam-wang is? That's a shame.

Latest news from Rust, now your chromosomes are as random as in real life.


EDIT to add: Female models will be implemented for all players next week. As usual for Rust, you won't be able to choose and you will be permanently stuck with whatever body you get thanks to your SteamID. What's fun though is that for now only Admins have female bodies. This doesn't mean that Admins can pick a female body. It means that if you are an Admin on a server YOU DO HAVE a Female body. As a result, at the moment if you see a woman on your server you know you shouldn't mess around with her.

So just like real life then?

I think we all should have learned by now that all of those female characters are really dudes.

Most of them are rk47 trying to troll you into some hardcore peeveepee

PVP = People Viewing Penises

penis vs penis

Most realistic sword fighting in gaming.

This has to be seen. There's a server called "Factions" that works in ways not so different from EVE. Regardless of all that though, and the territory control, it is probably one of the most succesful site and community, to the point that it has spawned cities like the ones in this video. Everything you see there is player made, everything. And by the way, technically, conquerable, and destructible. To me, this game is quickly growing to EVE's levels of "So good to watch that I don't even wanna play it".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8SwOLk9U2c

RustBall (RusketBall?). As usual, entirely player made.  :awesome_for_real:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIQkqXLvQh0