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Title: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Signe on March 02, 2005, 05:29:56 AM
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Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Paelos on March 02, 2005, 06:16:47 AM
None for financial services eh? Well I'll keep dreaming.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: jpark on March 02, 2005, 07:20:57 AM
Hmm... I don't see my position:

Product Evangelist ;)

Good to see.  I hope folks on these boards interested in this industry apply successfully.



Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Ralphie on March 02, 2005, 07:35:22 AM
Wow( no pun intended).

Openings for lead game designer are a bit unusual, aren't they? If you're Blizzard, can't you get the pick of the litter? Are they just that thin on qualified internal candidates?

--Ralphie


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Ardent on March 02, 2005, 08:24:25 AM
I wonder how many "resumes" they get for the Game Designer positions from l33t d00dz who dropped out of high school to spend their time roXXoring their game.

I'm sure it's common for game companies to get flooded with applicants who spent 1000 hours playing Grand Theft Auto 3 and think that qualifies them to know how to design games.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Abagadro on March 02, 2005, 08:25:37 AM
I'm sure it's common for game companies to get flooded with applicants who spent 1000 hours playing Grand Theft Auto 3 and think that qualifies them to know how to design games.

It doesn't?


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Signe on March 02, 2005, 09:06:17 AM
I emailed and asked if it was possible to get the Oracle job and work from the computer on my fridge.  They said no.  When will these companies realise that there is no reason at all to work from an office in their own building?  It is very short-sighted of an alledgedly cutting edge company involved in providing products for consumers living on the global intrawebs.  Sheesh... once you set up the damn database there's nothing to do but snack and take naps in the crapper, anyway. 


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Shockeye on March 02, 2005, 09:48:50 AM
Sheesh... once you set up the damn database there's nothing to do but snack and take naps in the crapper, anyway. 

Have you played WoW recently? I think their DBAs are probably there 24/7 trying to fix one problem after another.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Roac on March 02, 2005, 09:58:22 AM
Sheesh... once you set up the damn database there's nothing to do but snack and take naps in the crapper, anyway. 

Have you played WoW recently? I think their DBAs are probably there 24/7 trying to fix one problem after another.

More than that, have you worked in the industry recently?  Monolithic applications like a MMOG need a TON of performance tweaking, monitoring and reporting.  Other entities that make use of a lot of small to moderate projects need DBAs as authorities from a design perspective, both hardware and software.  We have 2 DBAs for SQL (and more for legacy), and it wouldn't hurt to get a third.  No shortage of things for them to do.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: shiznitz on March 02, 2005, 10:01:25 AM
It is very short-sighted of an alledgedly cutting edge company involved in providing products for consumers living on the global intrawebs. 

You are forgetting or ignoring the importance of actually getting to know the people one works with and the importance of new employees gelling with the culture of an organization.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Llava on March 02, 2005, 10:10:58 AM
It is very short-sighted of an alledgedly cutting edge company involved in providing products for consumers living on the global intrawebs. 

You are forgetting or ignoring the importance of actually getting to know the people one works with and the importance of new employees gelling with the culture of an organization.

Then let them move to me.  They've got the money.  Screw 'em.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Ardent on March 02, 2005, 10:35:00 AM
Then let them move to me.  They've got the money.  Screw 'em.

Heh. Made me laugh.

Anyway, to all the applicants, good luck finding affordable housing anywhere near Irvine on a game designer's salary.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: MrHat on March 02, 2005, 10:36:54 AM
Then let them move to me.  They've got the money.  Screw 'em.

Heh. Made me laugh.

Anyway, to all the applicants, good luck finding affordable housing anywhere near Irvine on a game designer's salary.

Diddo.  You're better off living in a van down by the river.

Don't bother applying to Blizzard unless you have 5yr+ experience in the field you're applying to.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Signe on March 02, 2005, 11:23:52 AM
I'm sorry.  I won't accept any job that I can't perform from my fridge computer.  They have no idea what they're missing out on.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Paelos on March 02, 2005, 11:24:50 AM
I'm sorry.  I won't accept any job that I can't perform from my fridge computer.  They have no idea what they're missing out on.

Is that like a computer that makes ice?


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Der Helm on March 02, 2005, 11:55:14 AM
(http://www.vinteropbevaring.dk/pcmod/gallery/14/fridge.jpg)

Glad I could help


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: schild on March 02, 2005, 12:02:01 PM
Don't bother applying to Blizzard unless you have 5yr+ experience in the field you're applying to.

You mean like Furor and Tigole? Cuz those are top notch applicants.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Signe on March 02, 2005, 12:09:11 PM
No.  More like this, but your's is nice too.
(http://www.tbxhome.com/images/mytbx/newsarticles/internet.jpg)

I dont' actually own one yet, but I would buy one if I got a job.  I could use the huge sign-up bonus they would have to give me.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: MrHat on March 02, 2005, 12:09:52 PM
Don't bother applying to Blizzard unless you have 5yr+ experience in the field you're applying to.

You mean like Furor and Tigole? Cuz those are top notch applicants.

No.  Not like them.  I hate those fuckers and what they've done to the industry.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Sky on March 02, 2005, 12:35:38 PM
Don't bother applying to Blizzard unless you have 5yr+ experience in the field you're applying to.

You mean like Furor and Tigole? Cuz those are top notch applicants.
It's kinda funny that the one part of WoW I completely despise, they had a hand in...just sayin'.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Strazos on March 02, 2005, 05:13:31 PM
And what part is that? All i know of them is that they were EQ uber1337 catass kings.

"OMFG d00d my war has 10k+ HP, FTW!!"

Who Fucking Cares.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Alkiera on March 02, 2005, 11:46:47 PM
Furor did alot of the raid designs, and some quest design too, from what I recall.

Alkiera


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Jeff Kelly on March 03, 2005, 06:32:33 AM
I wonder how many "resumes" they get for the Game Designer positions from l33t d00dz who dropped out of high school to spend their time roXXoring their game.

I'm sure it's common for game companies to get flooded with applicants who spent 1000 hours playing Grand Theft Auto 3 and think that qualifies them to know how to design games.

They hired Tigole so your point being?

Jeff


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Jayce on March 03, 2005, 07:25:43 AM
Sheesh... once you set up the damn database there's nothing to do but snack and take naps in the crapper, anyway. 

Have you played WoW recently? I think their DBAs are probably there 24/7 trying to fix one problem after another.

More than that, have you worked in the industry recently? 

Have you checked your sarcasm-o-meter lately?


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Roac on March 03, 2005, 08:55:09 AM
Sheesh... once you set up the damn database there's nothing to do but snack and take naps in the crapper, anyway. 

Have you played WoW recently? I think their DBAs are probably there 24/7 trying to fix one problem after another.

More than that, have you worked in the industry recently? 

Have you checked your sarcasm-o-meter lately?

Was more interested in the topic than the sarcasm yesterday.  Besides, what do you care if Signe didn't?


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Signe on March 03, 2005, 09:31:47 AM
Oh dear.  What didn't i do now?


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: MaceVanHoffen on March 03, 2005, 12:06:27 PM
Don't bother applying to Blizzard unless you have 5yr+ experience in the field you're applying to.

You mean like Furor and Tigole? Cuz those are top notch applicants.

No.  Not like them.  I hate those fuckers and what they've done to the industry.

The uber-guild mentality has pretty much destroyed most of what I like about MMOG's, so I don't think they're top-notch anything.  I doubt very much they contributed anything meaningful than playtesting whatever would happen when certain game mechanics came into contact with catasses.  I'm skeptical of their input into "design" beyond that.

Call it cockblocking, l33tness, whatever ... they are guys who are selfish enough to play games for the sole purpose of ruining others' fun.  Or perhaps more accurately, ruining others' fun is fun for them.  Wish I'd never heard of 'em.





Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Jayce on March 03, 2005, 02:02:25 PM
Sheesh... once you set up the damn database there's nothing to do but snack and take naps in the crapper, anyway. 

Have you played WoW recently? I think their DBAs are probably there 24/7 trying to fix one problem after another.

More than that, have you worked in the industry recently? 

Have you checked your sarcasm-o-meter lately?

Was more interested in the topic than the sarcasm yesterday.  Besides, what do you care if Signe didn't?

Just a friendly hint.  You seemed a little befuddled.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Signe on March 03, 2005, 02:56:20 PM
Who the hell wants to be a DBA for a games company, anyway?  Why suffer that sort of punishment when you can get a nice, cushy job at some Fortune 500 company and work from your fridge?


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Polysorbate80 on March 03, 2005, 03:02:52 PM
I don't want to work from my fridge; people might expect me to cook or something.

Is there a bathtub version I could use instead?


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Murgos on March 03, 2005, 03:57:49 PM
I'd make you one but I don't think you would get to use it very long, household current being 20 amps and all...


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Polysorbate80 on March 03, 2005, 08:53:56 PM
C'mon, I'm sure someone could whip up a waterproof mouse/keyboard.  Oh, and make it deliver beer from the kitchen while you're at it (there's no room for a fridge in there, dangit)


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Jeff Kelly on March 04, 2005, 01:41:16 AM
The uber-guild mentality has pretty much destroyed most of what I like about MMOG's, so I don't think they're top-notch anything.  I doubt very much they contributed anything meaningful than playtesting whatever would happen when certain game mechanics came into contact with catasses.  I'm skeptical of their input into "design" beyond that.

Call it cockblocking, l33tness, whatever ... they are guys who are selfish enough to play games for the sole purpose of ruining others' fun.  Or perhaps more accurately, ruining others' fun is fun for them.  Wish I'd never heard of 'em.

Oh they are not only ruining the fun of others but their own as well.

I have been trying for nearly two days now to get a pickup group for the deadmines or Mo'grosh Keep to do the elite quests there, so far to no avail. Asking in general or looking for groups will yield meager results (usually just one or two players) but when you stand at the entrance of one of those instances you will see dozens of people running in and out of there. Hell there were nearly thirty people in Mo'grosh  alone camping mobs.

So I wondered why there were so many people doing these kinds of quest but nobody was looking for a group. While watching them I not only realized that there were only guilds doing those quests but also that for the most part a Level 40+ Guild Member was pulling those people throught the instance. The typical group setup was something like one or two Level 40+++ and two or three Level 18 - 20 standing around and watching while those two slaughtered everything around. You see they want to do Molten Core and the other Raid-Instances so they do not have the time for their guildmates to reach 60 on their own. So for the better part of the game those poor sods have seen nothing more like rushing through instances while Level 40++ did all the work. Sounds fun eh?

When I reach 60 I have actually learned how to play my rogue and seen (and enjoyed) most of the World. Well it might take me till May to get that far but at least I had fun doing it.

So in my humble opinion überguilds == ruining the fun in games since 1996.

I wonder what happens when the casuals like me realize that they have become obsolete when reaching 60 since every instance at that Level pretty much requires Guilds and Raid groups to win?

Jeff


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: MrHat on March 04, 2005, 02:04:29 AM

Oh they are not only ruining the fun of others but their own as well.

I have been trying for nearly two days now to get a pickup group for the deadmines or Mo'grosh Keep to do the elite quests there, so far to no avail. Asking in general or looking for groups will yield meager results (usually just one or two players) but when you stand at the entrance of one of those instances you will see dozens of people running in and out of there. Hell there were nearly thirty people in Mo'grosh  alone camping mobs.

So I wondered why there were so many people doing these kinds of quest but nobody was looking for a group. While watching them I not only realized that there were only guilds doing those quests but also that for the most part a Level 40+ Guild Member was pulling those people throught the instance. The typical group setup was something like one or two Level 40+++ and two or three Level 18 - 20 standing around and watching while those two slaughtered everything around. You see they want to do Molten Core and the other Raid-Instances so they do not have the time for their guildmates to reach 60 on their own. So for the better part of the game those poor sods have seen nothing more like rushing through instances while Level 40++ did all the work. Sounds fun eh?


They could be alts.  I've helped a couple guild alts through some instances in order to get a quest item hella early.

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I wonder what happens when the casuals like me realize that they have become obsolete when reaching 60 since every instance at that Level pretty much requires Guilds and Raid groups to win?

Jeff

I'm not a 'casual' and I have this problem.  That's why I don't raid.  I find that I can still kick ass without the gear.  It really only provides maybe a 10% advantage if that.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Jeff Kelly on March 04, 2005, 03:39:51 AM

They could be alts.  I've helped a couple guild alts through some instances in order to get a quest item hella early.


I seriously doubt that. I am playing on an european server and the game has been released on February 11 over here so most guilds are still recruiting and there are only three people who have already reached the Level Cap on the german servers.

Jeff


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Signe on March 04, 2005, 04:57:41 AM
C'mon, I'm sure someone could whip up a waterproof mouse/keyboard.  Oh, and make it deliver beer from the kitchen while you're at it (there's no room for a fridge in there, dangit)
 

Really, where are you thinking?  All you need is some cling film and one of those Filipino wives you can buy from the back of that Soldier of Fortune magazine.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Polysorbate80 on March 04, 2005, 08:37:33 AM
I think my existing wife would be less than fantastically thrilled at that idea. All sorts of other non-waterproof appliances might suddenly find their way into my bath...


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Signe on March 04, 2005, 09:04:46 AM
I think my existing wife would be less than fantastically thrilled at that idea. All sorts of other non-waterproof appliances might suddenly find their way into my bath...

So placate her with her very own cabana boy.  You'd be surprised what us ladies would put up with for a cabana boy.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Paelos on March 04, 2005, 09:13:39 AM
I think my existing wife would be less than fantastically thrilled at that idea. All sorts of other non-waterproof appliances might suddenly find their way into my bath...

So placate her with her very own cabana boy.  You'd be surprised what us ladies would put up with for a cabana boy.

I have a helper monkey that serves me Mai-Tais.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Polysorbate80 on March 04, 2005, 10:21:21 AM
I think my existing wife would be less than fantastically thrilled at that idea. All sorts of other non-waterproof appliances might suddenly find their way into my bath...

So placate her with her very own cabana boy.  You'd be surprised what us ladies would put up with for a cabana boy.

Would a fridge computer work for her instead, do ya think?


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Signe on March 04, 2005, 10:28:13 AM
It might... but there's nothing like sitting poolside being served frozen dacquiris by your very own pretty 19 year old cabana boy.

Don't make the mistake of buying her a Banana Boy like Paelos has, though.  It's not even close.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: Polysorbate80 on March 04, 2005, 10:39:05 AM
We lack a pool...she'd have to settle for Mojitos on the front porch. 

And I'll take a miss on the monkey; the poop-flinging would likely be a bad influence on my 18-month old daughter.


Title: Re: WoW!! Look at all the jobs!
Post by: MaceVanHoffen on March 04, 2005, 04:38:12 PM
And I'll take a miss on the monkey; the poop-flinging would likely be a bad influence on my 18-month old daughter.

That's the downside.  The upside is that you could gather pictures which could be shown years later to prospective boyfriends.  Only out of fatherly pride, of course.