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Teaser out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIHPN62MYWw Edit: Bah, nuked by WB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ3d7n3DrLA -- Another one that hasn't been discovered yet. - Fuck it, wait until Nov. 3.

Also, apparently we did not have a thread for this.

We don't have a video either  :cry:

Also, they're remaking Godzilla again?

One of these times it'll stick! It made money in the past! It's still a pop culture icon!

Shut up with your new ideas!

Bah, they nuked it already. I was QUITE happy with what I saw.

Yeah it has.  Their content protection team is out in full force and can search as fast as you.

I saw it right before it got yanked. I liked it.

Tsk. There is more out there than Youtube. For example Dailymotion:


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15k0cr_godzilla-trailer_tech (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15k0cr_godzilla-trailer_tech)

Wow. I'm actually excited about this.

ALREADY A BETTER SHOT OF GODZILLA THAN THE MONSTERS IN PACIFIC RIM

SEE HOW HARD THAT WAS

(it wasnt)

I think that's the trailer from last year's Comic*Con, not the one sickrubik was trying to post.

Don't know, but it didn't look too bad.  Monster looked like Godzilla, had the proper Godzilla roar and I thought the Oppenheimer recording was a nice touch.  Just keep giant mechs out of it, thank you.

Has a nice visual style in the teaser at least. Plus seems to imply that they get the idea pretty well. Certainly better than the hideous previous attempt at a remake.

(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa68/random256/godzilla_vs_mechagodzilla_II_002_zps0b269da3.jpg)
 :geezer:

That's the one I was trying to post.

:awesome_for_real:

Cloverfield in LA without the shakycam. I'm in.

Looks like Godzilla fighting monsters and utterly fucking up a city in the process which looks good.  Expect that to be 10min in a 120min movie about a plucky teen coming of age.

Which one is the teen?


The synopsis says that Godzilla will be fighting "malevolent creatures" which honestly sounds less interesting than Godzilla rampaging across a city.

That sounds like a Godzilla flick to me! The city just gets stomped in the process.

Sorry 23year old military hunk, not plucky teen.

I always thought the first Godzilla was far superior to the monster vs monster Godzillas.  That first one was a cautionary allegory, all the rest were just professional wrestling matches.

But that was just one movie out of a shit ton.  Godzilla movies are about a giant lizard that fights other giant monsters, period.  

Besides, they already made the movie your looking for.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120685/


 :why_so_serious:

Godzilla didn't fight any monsters in the original.  I say bring this film on!  I hope he bites a skyscraper in half.

...and then uses it as a bat, so that the berets around here can sperg about how a movie about impossible monsters is ignoring too much of physics to be believable. :why_so_serious:

I thought the first one was about how nuclear weapons are evil. Oh sorry that was the Japanese version, not the english one. ALL OTHER GODZILLAS ARE SUSPECT!!

And at least no Godsilla movie had a Mecha being piloted by people trying to save the japan from a rampaging monster Oh wait

(http://intoxreport.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/936full-godzilla-vs-king-ghidorah-screenshot1.jpg)

Yes yes I know someone already made that joke about Mechagodzilla. This is different. ITS KING GIDORAH!!

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/9b592266040a53436952e486cf526b28/tumblr_mopmx1m6b21ri447go4_500.gif)
Deal with it.

New trailer up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjKO10hKtYw

Trailer looks good, so far Godzilla looks right and sounds right.

Well, it can't be as bad as Broderickzilla.   :awesome_for_real:

Godzilla's roar is a little different but nothing game breaking. It looks great. I'm in.

Heh, San Francisco seems to be the new trendy city to destroy in monster movies.

Middle America enjoys seeing godless liberals suffer.

God(zilla) hates fags.

I'm so sorry

The Golden Gate is one of the few things you can destroy in a movie that everyone in America will recognize. Pretty much it's that, Mount Rushmore, the World Trade Center, the Hollywood sign, or the White House for domestic locations.

Maybe the (Wesley) Willis Tower (nee The Sears Tower) in Chicago or Times Square, but I'm not sure about those.

They won't recognize the Tower itself, but they would the whole skyline.

Part of the reason you can film in low-rent places and call it Toronto, Springfield, Cincinnati or Seattle is the anonymous architecture of the US.

Hell, you could film the majority of a movie in LA, throw in a shot of the Golden Gate and 90% of the US would believe it was all filmed in S.F.

Except for anybody who's actually seen San Francisco.   :why_so_serious:

And anyways, you're forgetting the Trans-America Pyramid, which was the thing that first tipped me off that it was San Francisco (I'd thought it was suppose to be set in LA.......).  I think its a pretty recognizable structure across the country.

1) Which is why I said 90%

2) Most people I've come across who haven't been to S.F. and aren't architects say, "Oh there's that pyramid building.  What city is that?"

So, yeah.

Statue of Liberty!  Giant monsters love french girls in America

Over here San Fran is two things :  The bridge and Sam.

And Sam's only in there because the Wife tells everyone about him.

I didn't even know you fuckers had a pyramid.

(Though where's that opera house that looks like a metallic bean ?)

:Love_Letters:

There's a big metallic bean in Chicago, but it's not an opera house, it's just a bean-shaped sculpture that everyone has to take their picture in front of.

Full trailer has landed.

Want.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU7TQ_1HDa8

Rodan confirmed.

Statue of Liberty was in Vegas, SF gets rocked, and Cranston is over acting.

I would think chewing the scenery would be mandatory in a Godzilla movie.

--Dave

Yeah, but the monsters do that already.  :awesome_for_real:

(http://i.imgur.com/Hqv1CJG.jpg)

 :why_so_serious:

They threw a meaty Cranston line in the trailer but I expect that.  Looks like more than one other monster in this and my guess is everything non-godzilla i man-made and on the loose.  Hence, folly of man.

To be fair, that's always been the heart of Godzilla. Fears of nuclear radiation.

Oh yes I know but in the original is was our nukes waking up nature and getting bitch slapped because of it.  In this one it seems like we try to control nature, to create our own super weapons possibly using godzilla dna and failing, badly.

I don't disagree. There's apparently other stuff in there, possibly including, as you said, "Rodan".

I very much like how they've managed to link it directly back to the old films.

I very much liked the usage of the 2001 music in the trailer. But I'm a Kubrick mark.

I'm hearing toho only gave the rights to godzilla and not the other monsters so it may just be rodan-lite.

Well, its not like holywood can't make up their own monster.

A Fun little review of the original Godzilla movie http://sfdebris.com/videos/films/gojira.php since people seem to be on the hype train.

It's the same dude who makes fun of Startrek all the time.

Screen Junkies did an Honest Trailer for the 1998 version in honor of this week's release of Godzilla.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtzSP8VjkcE&feature=youtu.be

"Awkward Twin Tower references" got me hard in my black humor box.

This movie did not disappoint.  They might get criticism for using the monsters sparingly but the money shots were very good.

Red Wizard Demands More Details.

Well what is going to make or break this movie for people is the way they shot it.  This Godzilla is very much watching events unfold through the eyes of humans and not just monsters punching each other non stop.  In a way it's very much like the older Godzilla films which had much less guys in monster suits than people remember.

The audience follows one character through the film, Lt. Ford Brody and we witness the horror of these titans and the devastation they cause through his eyes.  It's a bit what Bay wanted to do with transformers but failed miserably at but in this movie I think it works much better, from Brody's perspective we get a real feeling for the size of these things and how utterly small we are in comparison.  You could really call this a disaster movie more than an action movie, the monsters are treated like forces of nature.

In my opinion they used just the right amount of monster, if you start going too far with giant monster battles you turn into camp and action but they used Godzilla sparingly and it so things never felt ridiculous.

I slightly disagree on this bit. I'm not sure you can do a movie where the climax is giant monsters fighting and not have it be a bit campy regardless of how much human drama leads up to it. In fact, they play it so serious for so long, that when the giant monster fight comes it almost feels like an entirely different movie.

Edit: It would almost be like if Cloverfield ended with a 10 minute fight with the creature vs. Godzilla.

Would have made the film even better!   :awesome_for_real:

So did you like it Velorath?

I can understand people wanting more monster but if you look back to the original Godzilla movies, this is exactly what you got out of those too.  You may not enjoy it as much but it's definitely Godzilla.

The original English version Godzilla movie with Raymond Burr and every other Toho Godzilla movie may as well be two completely different franchises. The only one that had a message about nuclear weapons was the original B&W movie. The message and "heart" of every other movie that had Godzilla was indeed "Giant monster pro-wrestlers fight and destroy tons of stuff". They even followed the same plot. Every single time. New space monster appears and wrecks shit. People think it might be Godzilla at first. Godzilla says "WTF people, how many times do I have to save your shit before you trust me. That first time was a misunderstanding". Then he leaves Monster Island and spends 40 minutes of the movie swimming to wherever the fuck. Space monster wrecks shit again only to have Godzilla arrive right then. People cheer Godzilla as the saviour of Earth. Sometimes Mothbro shows up too. Everyone fights and Godzilla is badly hurt and defeated, but not before he drives off space monster. Blah blah 40 more minutes of stupid actors boring the shit out of you while Godzilla heals. Space monster appears again, this time Godzilla fights with a new gusto and kills the shit out of the space monster, sometimes with the help of some doohicky made by mankind. Humans cheer and wave bye to Godzilla. Godzilla roars back at the people that next time give him some credit and go with "alien space monster" as the primary suspect. Then he swims back to Monster Island to play games and toughen up his disappointingly potato-shaped son.

Unless this movie has a solid 40 minutes of giant monsters wrecking shit iand/or fighting in unobscured, in focus glory it's a fucking failure as a Godzilla movie. It's a giant radioactive lizard that breaths a stream of radioactive fire. If someone is going to make a movie about that monster they need to wallow in that, not avoid it. People aren't going to see a giant monster movie to watch the angst and terror of some guy they don't give two shits about. They go to see giant monsters.

I'm not saying monsters fighting isn't central to the plot but if you rewatch most of the toho films there is a lot less actual monster fighting than you remember.  That said, I felt there was  just about the appropriate amount here, I could have used one more good fight scene but too much monster can be a bad thing.

I miss monster island. Saturday noon, Superhost Marty Sullivan, Godzilla movies... yeah, wasted youth. I admit I watched for the monsters only, but I was also a kid. Bitch about thin plots and too much CGI/special effects that some movies like to go with which leaves a bad taste in your mouth or do the opposite. Either way the result is bitching about the movie.

Superhost! But what about Big Chuck &  Lil' John!? And that guy who was a Ghoulardi ripoff with the one black eyeglass.  Or Jim Varney doing dairy commercials before anyone knew who the hell he was.

Saw a midnight showing. Trying to make a Godzilla piece be a human interest story could be fine, except I never once cared about any of the main characters, ever. So fail. Godzilla was used sparingly, which would be fine, to make him more impressive when he did show up, he was impressive, but again, the other 105 minutes of the movie were just not that interesting.

Pacific Rim did the monster movie 10 times better. For this Godzilla adaptation imagine Pacific Rim, with less interesting characters, and take out the whole middle 45 minute amazing fight sequence with all the robots and the two monsters. Instead just the 5 minute intro when his bro dies, and the short fight at the rift, and you have aprox. the amount of monster action in Godzilla. Which is to say, not nearly enough.



This.

If the characterization in this movie is worse than Pacific Rim then.. :uhrr:

It's Brian Cranston as Brain Cranston (aka, Heisenberg), and random white dude as random white military dude. With a couple other one dimensional characters thrown in for plot device purposes. I gave exactly zero shits about any of them at any point.

Edit: Toi be fair, it's not a poorly made or cheap film. Just not a particularly interesting or enjoyable one (save for five minutes here and there).

The humans needed more oomph but to say they were worse than pacific rim? you've got to be high.  Cranston acted superbly even though he is woefully underused in this movie, if you can't separate him from BB that's your own hang up.

I agree the actors needed more in the script but I think they did ok with what they had.  The movie is really about telling the monsters from their perspective but not necessarily telling the humans story.

It was ok, but not something that really stuck with me at all after it ended. I don't have any sort of special fondness for Godzilla movies or giant monsters fighting in general, and mainly watched it because it's part of my job and because the trailers seemed interesting. I knew going in that in a lot of Godzilla movies he's essentially the good guy, but the trailers didn't leave me with the impression that this was the direction they were going to go in for this movie. I was expecting humans vs. Godzilla with some other monsters thrown in. Instead it was monsters wrecking shit for a good portion of the movie and then Godzilla comes in at the end and fights them, which is done in a perfectly competent manner if that's why you're going to see the movie.

Good enough for me, though others seem to say there isn't much monster.  Sounds like I should still be entertained.

But I really liked Pacific Rim, so maybe this sort of movie is just more my cup of tea than for others around here.   :awesome_for_real:

There's not a lot of Godzilla, but the "bad" monsters do get some screen time. Not as much as the humans, but I think it struck an ok balance.

Edit: Also as a random aside, don't bother with 3D. Having seen both versions there aren't any particularly good uses of 3D (think it was post-converted) and some of the scenes were too dark with the glasses on.

The only time I ever bother with 3D is if I have a limited window to see the movie and the 3D start time fits my schedule. Otherwise fuck all that.

This is the worst Godzilla movie ever created, and nowhere near as good as Pacific Rim.  Dammit, I was pumped for this one too.

There are at least three things terribly wrong with this statement.

Dude. Out of four people who have bothered to post about seeing this movie, you are the only one who liked it. Posting after each person and rebutting their opinion does not make yours more valid.

Dude, I do this about movies and shows I only marginally like too.  Hyperbole is a cancer that deserves to be stamped out no matter where it rears it's ugly head.

"Hyperbole is a cancer"...

Hyperbole is the greatest thing ever.

That is literally the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Saw this Friday and it was far, far better than the awful Godzilla movie with Ferris Bueller.  I didn't even mind that the main human character was played by Kick-Ass or his wife was one of the Olsen sisters.  There was enough monsters fighting and destroying shit for me, though not as much as Pacific Rim.  I still liked Pacific Rim better just because it was more of an original take on the genre...plus it had giant monsters AND giant robots. :awesome_for_real:

That is sig worthy.

I was going to see it with friends, but if the people side of the movie fails to deliver, I can wait until it hits HBO and catch the monster goodness for 20 minutes of fun.

Im going to be the heathen that says he enjoyed the Ferris Bueller Godzilla.

I preferred the cartoon with the fisherman who would deliberately get into trouble then press a secret button to make Godzilla appear and be all like "fuck you antagonist!".

I'm not sure having a centipede in a flying saucer or finding the lost city of Atlantis counts as 'getting yourself into trouble on purpose.'

It was awesome tho.  Apart from Godzuki.

Driving that "unarmed" boat around uninvited in waters where pirates/monsters/aliens are quietly going about their business counts as looking for trouble in my book.

And using a mind control radio to sic a prehistoric monster on them seems morally dubious at best.

I went to see a movie about a giant monster fucking up California.  Instead I got a movie about multiple giant monsters fucking up a whole lot of shit, which was great.  And about a bunch of humans that I could not care one bit about, which was not great.  But I still walked out with a positive impression; what monster ass-kicking there was in the movie was both fun and respectful of the original material, neither of which applies to the 1998 Godzilla.  It was on opening night, and the audience was pretty stoked, which is also always a good sign.

I enjoyed it as well, but it doesn't hold up well as a Godzilla movie. I certainly don't begrudge fans their negative opinion of it, because it's a justified if neckbeardy opinion.

Yep, pretty enjoyable popcorn flick about Giantass monsters smashing shit while the humans run around trying to act like they have "controll" of the situation.

unfortunately, like most of the Genre, it really starts to fall apart pretty damn quickly if you turn your brain back on and start to think about shit.

So here's the thing, pertinent to SurfD's comments. I am genuinely baffled about which universe everyone else was living in when they say, "Worst Godzilla movie EVER" or "SINCE FERRIS BUELLER".

Cause here's how *we* watched kaiju (and other monster) movies when I was a young'un. They came on UHF channels, they were cheap and funny and bad. We enjoyed watching them but even when we were kids, nobody mistook any of the post-1st Godzilla movies for classic films. They were all amusing as fuck loads of heaping cheese, and every single one of them could have been MST3K'ed up the wazoo.

So when people are like "Oh, man, this movie doesn't make sense" or "Most of it is people not MONSTERS" I'm like wtf. Compared to what? What films in this genre are you thinking of? If none because you think the genre has heretofore untapped potential, then what the hell is your idea of what the genre could be, should be, hasn't been? 2 hours of nonstop monsters bashing each other? More close-ups of a scientist talking about arrogance?

Most Godzilla movies don't have a ton of Godzilla in them. And yes, they are often super cheesy. (The dubs don't help - the dubs are often very cheesy on purpose)

Many of them don't make sense, but at the same time they are so silly that asking them to make sense is itself nonsense. The thing classic Godzilla movies usually get right is Godzilla himself, particularly his disposition. This is what the Broderick movie got so wrong - in that movie Godzilla isn't Godzilla, he's just a dinosaur.

The other day I watched Godzilla vs King Ghidorah. The plot of the movie is fucking insane - it has a bunch of time travel and a Terminator 2 ripoff character (including cribbing entire scenes from T2). Almost everything about the movie is super dumb, but the parts around Godzilla are really good. Here is the stuff that happens to Godzilla:

1. Godzilla as a pre-Godzilla dinosaur saves some Japanese soldiers fighting against American soldiers on an island in WW2, and is injured in the process.
2. The Japanese soldiers salute Godzilla for saving them, when in fact he was pretty much just wrecking shit as a dinosaur and not trying to help them.
3. That dinosaur is brought into the present and put at the bottom of the ocean so that he can't turn into Godzilla
4. In the present the humans needs Godzilla to fight Ghidorah, so they go to turn the dinosaur into Godzilla
5. When their nuclear sub arrives to turn him into Godzilla he's already Godzilla and destroys the sub
6. Godzilla wrecks Ghidorah
7. Godzilla wrecks a bunch of Japan
8. An old soldier who was on that WW2 island confronts Godzilla. Godzilla appears to recognize him, then kills him
9. A futuristic mecha-Ghidorah (don't ask!) defeats Godzilla.

The plot logic is pretty crazy but thematically it makes sense - Godzilla is a force of nature or really the embodiment of nature, he is inevitable, he does things for reasons that don't make sense to humans. When he's helping people it's not because he's nice, and when he's hurting people it's not because he's mean - he does things for reasons that are his own. Godzilla has emotions and can think, but the way in which he thinks is foreign.

The good Godzilla movies make thematic sense. They usually don't make logical sense. But that's ok. For me if they have the right themes and have Godzilla wrecking shit to his music and a cool enemy design that's good.

The weaker Godzilla movies tend to be the ones where he fits comfortably into a good guy role. In the better movies he sometimes does helpful things but he isn't a good guy. Mothra is a the selfless defender of Japan, whereas Godzilla, when he does defend Japan, does so via happenstance.

It took itself seriously. That's the problem with it. Pacific Rim was "Okay, here's the excuse plot for giant robots beating the shit out of kaiju, now ignore it and watch Gypsy Danger hit Otachi in the face with a supertanker" - it knew exactly what sort of film it was and played to that. Godzilla tried to be a human interest picture.

Godzilla films always take themselves seriously even if they are the cheesiest things in existence(many are)

Saw it. Liked it for what it was even with some weaknesses. I liked Pacific Rim better too but it was good to see ol' Zilla back in action.

Just for fun (applying logic to one of these kinds of movies is sorta missing the point) I will try to answer:

That has to be the first time i ever look at an Olsen twin without thinking they are some sort of weird alien.

That's cuz she's not an Olsen Twin.   :awesome_for_real:

Was odd how high of wattage some of the casting was considering how little they had to do, i..e Binoche, Watanabe, Straithairn, etc.

Oh, well that explains it, she was cute as hell.  P.S. it was a great movie.

It's already greenlit for a sequel so I'm hoping they can iron out some of the kinks and yield better dialogue which imo was really the only lacking part.

I liked the fact that Godzilla clearly did not give a fuck about any of the weapons being shot at him.  It would have been mildly disappointing if he'd acknowledged such nuisances as bullets.

Just got back from seeing this, and I certainly enjoyed it.  As everybody said, Godzilla himself was perfect.  Fight scenes were fun, but it certainly could have used a bit more.

I was entertained, but it was indeed no Pacific Rim (:why_so_serious:).  And having said all that, it was filled with a lot of nonsensical plot holes I had a hard time glossing over (maybe if they had more fighting I could have).  None of them had anything to do with the monsters (which in movie land I'm perfectly fine letting the 'scientist' on screen hand wave away with a few words), but the actions of the people/military/scientists......  Just, arrrggg.

But hey, I did enjoy it, IMAX all the way.

Finally got around to watching this with my son. He LOVED it. I enjoyed it, and really enjoyed watching him watch it. After putting him through the 1976 King Kong (I didn't warn him the KK died at the end, and absolutely SOBBED for 15 minutes...totally scarred the poor kid), this was a much better experience. We were both wondering if/when Godzilla would use his breath weapon. It was very satisfying when he finally did.