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Title: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Falconeer on June 25, 2013, 12:16:10 PM I am speechless.
You go see for yourself. http://mwomercs.com/phoenix (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/MWO%20Phoenix.jpg) Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Unseen and stuff) Post by: Falconeer on June 25, 2013, 12:27:12 PM Official "Project Phoenix" FAQ:
Quote This thread answers some frequently asked questions from our Project Phoenix Promotion. This post was last updated on June 25, 2013. If you have feedback regarding this promotion, or if you would like to engage in discussion with other players, please see this thread. Q: Has a sale end date been announced yet? A: Not at this time. We want to ensure our biggest fans have ample opportunity to purchase these exclusive packages before they are vaulted. Once vaulted, the Phoenix BattleMechs will never be made available again. Q: What can I do if I have encountered a problem with my purchase? A: Please contact support@mwomercs.com and our Game Masters will be happy to help you out. Q: When am I able to select my House faction? A: Further details on dates are yet to be confirmed. Stay tuned for updates! Q: Is there an opportunity to upgrade my package? A: Yes, you may upgrade your package for the duration of the sale. Q: Can packages be gifted to others? Ie. Can I buy this for a friend? A: Not at this time. Q: What type of added benefit will existing Founders receive upon purchase of any Project Phoenix package? A: Great news for Founders, as a purchase of any of these packs will reward Founders with a unique and exclusive hanging cockpit item displaying their specific Founder's tier in the item's design. Q: What is a custom forum color and what does it look like? A: Much like the Founders colors, players who purchase the Project Phoenix Mech Packages will get a unique icon color and title to stand out on the forum. Q: If I am also a Founder, can I choose between my founders forum badge and Project Phoenix forum badge? A: Yes, similar to how you are currently able to change your forum avatar, you will be able to choose to show your Project Phoenix Package Icon. Changing your In-Game badge will be possible once that functionality is added to the game. Q: Will Founders receive their unique cockpit hanging item on October 15th along with all other package contents? A: Yes, all items will be awarded on October 15th. Q: Will the entire collection of items in each package (ie - Mechs, Badges, Medallions etc) be delivered all on the same date or will different items be provided at different dates? A: All package contents will be delivered on Oct 15th. Q: How are the Phoenix Battlemechs cosmetically and functionally different from the Mechs already in-game? A: The Phoenix Variants of each Project Phoenix Battlemech comes packed with the following cosmetic and functional perks: Unique and Exclusive Custom Designed Exterior 30% C-Bill boost 10% Loyalty Point Boost Important! These Phoenix Variants will NEVER again be available to purchase or to unlock once the sale offer has ended. Q: What is the difference between a Phoenix and Standard Variant ? A: The Standard Variants of each Project Phoenix Mech will not carry any of the Phoenix Variant cosmetic or functional benefits, as seen in the answer above. Q: Are the Project Phoenix Phoenix Variant and Standard Variant Mechs customizable in the areas of exterior cosmetic changes, loadout changes and/or cockpit customizations? A: The Camo Spec, Loadout and cockpit customizations can all be user-selected and changed for the Phoenix BattleMechs and their Standard Variants. Q: Do I need empty Mechbays before I can purchase this package? A: Great news - each Project Phoenix package comes with the precisely the necessary number of additional Mech Bays in order to house your newly purchased Mechs. Q: Which types of payments do you accept? A: We currently accept most major payment options through our current payment system. Availability varies by country. Q: Will I be able to choose which Mech is included in my package? Can I switch it later? A: Project Phoenix packages contain predefined contents and thus cannot be mixed-and-matched. Q: Will this be available Worldwide? A: Yes, except where prohibited by law. Q: When will the Standard Variants be purchasable with C-bills or MC? A: For those who do not Buy a Project Phoenix Package - The Standard Variants release schedule is currently set as: Oct 15, 2013: Locust Nov 20, 2013: Shadowhawk Dec 18, 2013: Thunderbolt Jan 22, 2014: Battlemaster Premium Time Q: What is "Premium Time" and how does it benefit me? A: Premium Time applies an additional 50% of gained XP and additional 50% of gained C-Bills while active, per game played. It is a powerful and time-saving method to advance and empower your Mechs with new abilities and upgrades. Q: Will the 'early bird' benefit of 30 Days Premium Time also be awarded also on Oct 15th? A: No, the 30 Days Premium Time from the early bird special will be awarded on our next regularly scheduled weekly maintenance period after you place your order, and will be available for you to use immediately after it is applied to your account. Q: Will I be able to choose when to begin my Premium Time? A: Yes, all package-related Premium Time, including the ‘early bird’ Premium time benefit, will be added to your banked Premium Time. Any previously banked Premium Time will be combined with the new Premium Time; a button in the client allows the one-time activation of all your banked Premium Time. Q: If I already have Premium Time activated on my account, will I still have the option to begin my Project Phoenix Premium Time at my discretion? A: Yes, if you're currently enjoying activated Premium Time, you will still have the option of starting your banked Premium Time after your current time has expired. Q: What if I don’t activate my ‘early bird’ 30 days premium time before October 15? A: No problem, we'll add any Premium Time from your Project Phoenix package to your banked Premium Time on your account. Ie. Players who purchase the Overlord package and choose not to use their ‘early bird’ Premium Time right away, will have 120 days of Premium Time in their bank on October 15 when Project Phoenix packages are awarded. Note that all banked Premium Time is combined, and once activated the timer countdown will commence. Loyalty Points Q: What are Loyalty Points? A: Loyalty Points are part of the upcoming Community Warfare expansion. Players will be able to work with and/or pledge allegiance to one of the major factions within the game's universe. Loyalty Points are earned by doing a variety of activities within the game. Players will have a pooled loyalty rank value per in-game faction. As the player performs specific actions they will earn loyalty points which are added or removed from these individual faction rank pools. Loyalty Point boosts increase the positive earning of points in these individual boosts. Earning a high level of rank with anyone one faction, earns the player access to specific faction content and economic benefits. Further details will be revealed with upcoming announcements on Community Warfare. Q: Does the Faction Medallion ‘Loyalty Boost’ of 2.5%, stack together with the 10% Loyalty Boost when using a Phoenix BattleMech? A: Yes – giving a total of 12.5% Loyalty Boost per match when using a Phoenix BattleMech that is equipped with a Faction Medallion. Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Unseen and stuff) Post by: HaemishM on June 25, 2013, 12:40:41 PM Welp, I think that effectively ends the discussion about whether the game will be fixed to be fun or just turn into a money sink of boating and shit.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Unseen and stuff) Post by: satael on June 25, 2013, 12:52:33 PM So it seems that the Phoenix variants are better than the founder mechs (or the hero mechs?) since they also get a 10% loyalty bonus (in addition to the 30% cash boost) :why_so_serious:
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Unseen and stuff) Post by: Ironwood on June 25, 2013, 01:05:00 PM Buy a Battlemaster, get 3 free useless mechs.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Unseen and stuff) Post by: satael on June 25, 2013, 01:14:06 PM Buy a Battlemaster, get 3 free useless mechs. You have to wait until January next year unless you go Overlord (to play Battlemaster) :why_so_serious: it seems :why_so_serious: is turning into my smiley of choice when it comes to MWO Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Unseen and stuff) Post by: Falconeer on June 25, 2013, 01:17:59 PM It's obviously a money scheme, but like the founders scheme here you are basically buying a bundle of Hero 'mechs. The 'mechs will be available in their standard form for c-bills anyway. So, is it so bad?
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Unseen and stuff) Post by: Arthur_Parker on June 25, 2013, 01:19:47 PM Fuckers.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Unseen and stuff) Post by: Arthur_Parker on June 25, 2013, 01:25:42 PM Bought.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Unseen and stuff) Post by: Falconeer on June 25, 2013, 01:39:47 PM Of course, me too. How could I not? I am a slave to this franchise. Damn.
Locust (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/MWO%20Locust.jpg) :drill: Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Unseen and stuff) Post by: Lantyssa on June 25, 2013, 02:05:18 PM Fuck. Maybe just buying the regular Battlemaster and Thunderbolt with creds will be enough for me. I don't need bonuses.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Zaljerem on June 25, 2013, 08:03:01 PM :heart:
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Zetleft on June 26, 2013, 10:23:07 AM Fuckers bringing up a few of my favorite old school mechs
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Ironwood on June 26, 2013, 10:23:56 AM Shadow Hawk pic is up.
Nice Look. Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Zetleft on June 26, 2013, 10:26:09 AM Yeah it is, gonna be real hard to not buy that.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Shannow on June 26, 2013, 12:41:08 PM No warhammer? Wtf, lets pick the ugliest unseen mechs?
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Ironwood on June 26, 2013, 12:50:13 PM Because the Warhammer is delightful ?
Don't be daft. Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Arthur_Parker on June 26, 2013, 01:34:34 PM None of these 4 are Harmony Gold, they could also maybe do Griffon and Wolverine but you won't see the others. That's from some guy who seems to understand what's going on with the licensing.
I don't have a clue myself. Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Falconeer on June 26, 2013, 03:05:42 PM Dude, I'd love to see the Warhammer and the Marauder myself, or the Archer. I even have the original vintage models on my sehlf. My mind would just explode. But saying that those four are ugly? What's wrong with you?
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/Mechs.jpg) Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Evildrider on June 26, 2013, 03:54:55 PM Someone needs to dust more often.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Falconeer on June 26, 2013, 11:04:30 PM HEH!
They are not on display, I took them out of a very safe (but dusty) box just for the photo. Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Ironwood on June 27, 2013, 01:28:23 AM Someone needs to stop gouging his frustration and anger into the tabletop.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Llyse on June 27, 2013, 06:58:19 AM So I have until July 25 to save up for $80? :why_so_serious:
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Falconeer on June 27, 2013, 06:59:44 AM If you get it before the 25th you get one month of extra Premium Time (4 months instead of three), but the offer is most likely gonna stay alive until launch, meaning easily up to September.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: calapine on June 27, 2013, 07:12:43 AM No way I can afford that now. :heartbreak:
I need a sugar daddy/mommy with a big purse. Any takers? :grin: Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Merusk on June 27, 2013, 07:39:40 AM Premium game time is pretty meaningless. While the Xp boost is nice the credits have no use once you get the chassis you want.
Then again I'm probably not the best gauge. I hadn't bought a new chassis in over 5 months once my garage filled. I just sold off my catapharact so I could get a rifleman instead. :awesome_for_real: Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Falconeer on June 27, 2013, 08:11:26 AM I used to agree with that Merusk, but I recently realized that if you like to drive more different 'mechs then you gotta spend a good amount of money to buy upgrades and especially XL engines for the ones who need it. Also, modules. Those are expensive.
But ultimately, I am pretty sure money will become a thing when they will reveal the whole "epic" 'mech scheme. Also, "branded" weapons. Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: satael on June 27, 2013, 08:28:10 AM I used to agree with that Merusk, but I recently realized that if you like to drive more different 'mechs then you gotta spend a good amount of money to buy upgrades and especially XL engines for the ones who need it. Also, modules. Those are expensive. But ultimately, I am pretty sure money will become a thing when they will reveal the whole "epic" 'mech scheme. Also, "branded" weapons. I'd be willing to bet that "loyalty" will be more important than money... Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Merusk on June 27, 2013, 10:14:00 AM I used to agree with that Merusk, but I recently realized that if you like to drive more different 'mechs then you gotta spend a good amount of money to buy upgrades and especially XL engines for the ones who need it. Also, modules. Those are expensive. But ultimately, I am pretty sure money will become a thing when they will reveal the whole "epic" 'mech scheme. Also, "branded" weapons. You don't have a garage filled with modules and engines by now? I do. Then again, I'll also swap engines between Chassis because you can only run one mech at a time, so why buy that 315 3 times. (Note: If you're always the first guy to die and want to run another match immediately this won't work for you.) Until I bought the new chassis I had 8 or 9 million, and I only run 4-5 matches every few days. I haven't played in a while and I still have 3.3mil, avg a low 128k per match. I used to agree with that Merusk, but I recently realized that if you like to drive more different 'mechs then you gotta spend a good amount of money to buy upgrades and especially XL engines for the ones who need it. Also, modules. Those are expensive. But ultimately, I am pretty sure money will become a thing when they will reveal the whole "epic" 'mech scheme. Also, "branded" weapons. I'd be willing to bet that "loyalty" will be more important than money... Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Falconeer on June 27, 2013, 10:14:27 AM Thunderbolt unveiled. It is MUCH better than I expected. It has been my all time favourite in the tabletop for more than twenty years and I must say it's already my favourite in MWO. I am delighted.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/MWO%20Thunderbolt.jpg) Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Falconeer on June 27, 2013, 10:19:07 AM To Merusk, I don't know what to say. Maybe you are right. But I have about twenty chassis, and to fit them all with modules (seismic is 6M!) feels expensive to me. You don't need money if you stick to three or four 'mechs or if you sell the ones you don't need, but I never sell anything so I have a certain upkeep for all the crap I am filling my hangar mechlab with. That said, since as everyone points out money are not THAT important right now, I would be surprised if, say, to buy the cool stuff in the future they wouldn't put a Loyalty AND money requirement. Like, you need 15k Loyalty to access the Tier 2 epic 'mechs and then you need 80M C-bills (to get which you want Premium) to buy it. They have to put a carrot on that stick and they know it very well.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Merusk on June 27, 2013, 10:27:33 AM Yeah, I guess it's only if you don't buy a lot of mechs, you find credits are meaningless. Tho if they go the 80mil route as you're speculating I'll just drop the game. I don't grind anymore. Even WoT drove me off with it's grind from tier 9 to 10 and the added cost of tanks. No thanks, I'm not 20 anymore!
I have cash to spend but not the time to grind. Probably why I'm playing P2Win games now. (Checked my stats I only have 597 games played in MWO.) Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Llyse on June 27, 2013, 02:57:29 PM Yeah, premium time is kinda useless if you're maxed out or conservative but I'm like Falc, I really dislike selling and I don't actually have that much time to play lately so I'm nowhere near close to having a happy stable.
I haven't even activated my original premium time yet. Saving for that when I get settled again. Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Lantyssa on June 27, 2013, 04:55:13 PM ... sold off my catapharact... :cry:Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Merusk on June 27, 2013, 05:01:13 PM I never got the performance out of it some could. I have a 3:1 kill ratio in a stalker, and 1.0 or better in Catapult variants (1.0 in the shitty founder version) but couldn't break .85 in the Catapharact. It's clearly not the mech I should be piloting. Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Lantyssa on June 27, 2013, 05:52:47 PM It's always performed best for me as a brawler and ambusher, but the game probably doesn't allow that right now.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: satael on June 27, 2013, 11:08:32 PM It's always performed best for me as a brawler and ambusher, but the game probably doesn't allow that right now. There's nothing like getting the alpine mountains map with a 4*LPL Atlas (and spending most of the match circling to get into range while avoiding a head-on fight at 1k+) Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Falconeer on June 28, 2013, 12:21:53 AM I just started using a 4 AC5 Cataphract and I am having lots of unexpected fun. The DPS is higher than the dual-AC20 Jager or Catapult over the 4 seconds mark and while I agree that it's easier to waste ammo since you have to hit more often, the very fast rate of fire (1,5 cooldown) and the ultra long range (600 - 1800) definitely make up for it if you ask me. The extreme constant shake on the receiving end is a nice bonus.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Falconeer on June 28, 2013, 11:30:36 AM Battlemaster.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/MWO%20Battlemaster.jpg) Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Ironwood on June 28, 2013, 11:49:42 AM :heartbreak:
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Falconeer on June 28, 2013, 11:56:25 AM Right? It's a beautiful beast, but I can't see the Battlemaster. At all.
Not at all this (http://falconhussars.narod.ru/Welcome/Mech/Inner_Sphere/Mechs/Is_85/Battlemaster_BLR-1G.jpg) Maybe a little bit of this (http://www.sarna.net/wiki/images/5/58/Blr-4s_battlemaster.jpg) The head had to stick out more, somehow. That's what the Battlemaster is all about. Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Ironwood on June 28, 2013, 12:00:02 PM It's lovely. Doesn't say 'Battlemaster' to me tho.
I'm not familiar with your second pic, but that's clearly what they were going for. Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Kitsune on July 02, 2013, 01:24:08 AM I have to cut them a little slack, there's just no excuse for not headshotting a Battlemaster in the original design. They couldn't have given the thing a giant bubble cockpit and then turned around and tried to defend it having a small enough head hitbox that it doesn't die in the first fifteen seconds of a game to snipers.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Ironwood on July 02, 2013, 01:27:19 AM Yeah, the very first Mechwarrior had that problem. The head was lined up with the crosshairs. And I mean DIRECTLY lined up. Made those missions so easy for the Blazing Aces.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Llyse on July 14, 2013, 05:21:20 PM Yeah, the very first Mechwarrior had that problem. The head was lined up with the crosshairs. And I mean DIRECTLY lined up. Made those missions so easy for the Blazing Aces. So is anyone getting any of this? I was really tempted before but now... that's a fair amount of money I could be spending on the steam sale... Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Merusk on July 14, 2013, 05:51:39 PM I haven't even bought MC since the founders pack, never mind premium mechs; so, no.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Pennilenko on July 14, 2013, 08:31:43 PM I wont ever give these assholes another dime. Mostly because they broke the fuck out of the game for me and refused to pause my premium time. I don't care if that makes me sound entitled.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Evildrider on July 14, 2013, 08:36:29 PM If I could choose what type of mech I got for the basic pack I would get it, but I only want the Battlemasters and not paying 80 bucks.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Falconeer on July 14, 2013, 11:23:42 PM I got the 80$ one. I have been playing every day for a year and I still put three or four hours every days into it. So yeah, had to. :oh_i_see:
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Llyse on July 14, 2013, 11:31:15 PM I got the 80$ one. I have been playing every day for a year and I still put three or four hours every days into it. So yeah, had to. :oh_i_see: Yeah, I'm a ShadowHawk fan... but Thunderbolt isn't bad... and then it's just a slip to Battlemaster... I think I'm just gonna go for the Shadowhawk pack though... Damn Falc peer pressure Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Falconeer on August 20, 2013, 12:34:22 PM Some new pics that also show the default Phoenix pattern and colour. Phoenix colours will be unlocked for all your 'mechs as a "reward" for preordering.
(https://static.mwomercs.com/img/phoenix/popups/locust.jpg) (https://static.mwomercs.com/img/phoenix/popups/shadowhawk.jpg) (https://static.mwomercs.com/img/phoenix/popups/thunderbolt.jpg) (https://static.mwomercs.com/img/phoenix/popups/battlemaster.jpg) Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) Post by: Falconeer on August 28, 2013, 12:44:19 PM Saber Phoenix.
30 more dollars to get Griffin and Wolverine. This sucks cause, honestly, as a friend of mine said, no matter how good the stuff is, it is just BAD TASTE. Damn. way to have the vocal part of your community hate you. Anyway, the 'mechs look great, but do we really need them at the moment? (https://static.mwomercs.com/img/phoenix/popups/wolverine.jpg) (https://static.mwomercs.com/img/phoenix/popups/griffin.jpg) Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Falconeer on October 04, 2013, 05:54:33 AM Looks like all they had to do to sell a lot of Phoenix packages was to post a few actual screenshots of the new 'mechs. The progress bar has been growing very slowly in the past month (although for fairness it accelerated after the many bits of Community Warfare released in the past few days).
Then, they posted those Locust screenshots yesterday and the bar jumped from about 75% to 100% overnight. http://mwomercs.com/phoenix Granted, this might all be fake and the bar completely artificial and rigged, but it makes sense: the Locust does look cool. EDIT: Also, flame pattern unlocked for those who gave them all the money. Well, sweet :heart: Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Falconeer on October 08, 2013, 02:16:11 PM First look in game at the Battlemaster and the Shadow Hawk, dropping next Tuesday.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/MWO%20Battlemasterr.jpg) (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/MWO%20Shadow.jpg) And the Locust from a few days ago for whoever missed it. (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVrLdxqCEAAx-jF.jpg:large) Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Ironwood on October 08, 2013, 02:41:38 PM That Battlemaster STILL looks shit.
Ugly and blocky and those missile pods blow. Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Falconeer on October 09, 2013, 03:43:42 AM Uhm, strongly disagree. I think the Battlemaster looks amazing. It sucks that the photo doesn't make it look big (compared to the Shadow Hawk especially), but I really like the look of it. Blocky isn't a bad thing, and those shulders, while I am not a WoW or Gwar fan, look great to me. Disappointed by the missile pod though, yeah, which has clearly been reshaped to obtain side protection from the shoulder pauldron. I might be wrong but I'd swear they redesigned the cockpit too, this one looks a bit more like the original than what we have seen in the concept arts (I also think they updated the concept arts on the website accordingly :tinfoil: ).
Today they will reveal the Thunderbolt. It has been my favourite 'mech since forever, it was my ride in the tabletop 80% of the time, so I am nervous about how it'll come out and most importantly if it'll be viable to play. Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Ironwood on October 09, 2013, 04:05:51 AM OH YEAH ??? WELL, LET'S JUST DISAGREE THEN !!!
:grin: Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Falconeer on October 09, 2013, 04:20:12 AM A gem! Shadow Hawk vs Thunderbolt! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dpRHOApCWI)
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Falconeer on October 09, 2013, 09:47:12 AM New Battlemaster picture since people were whining on the forums that it looked as tall as the Shadow Hawk. Russ Bullock repeatedly stated that no they are not the same size and to clarify that he posted a new picture which, while awesome, doesn't really clarify anything. I mean, obviously he has to be believed, I just wonder why is it so hard for him (them, Bryan is often on the same confused page) to do very simple things.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWJhd86CQAA7WQX.jpg:large) Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Ironwood on October 09, 2013, 11:42:24 AM Still No.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Lantyssa on October 09, 2013, 12:07:35 PM Agreed. It's not a Battlemaster.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Falconeer on October 09, 2013, 12:13:07 PM Oh hey on that I agree, I even said so a few posts up:
Right? It's a beautiful beast, but I can't see the Battlemaster. At all. Not at all this (http://falconhussars.narod.ru/Welcome/Mech/Inner_Sphere/Mechs/Is_85/Battlemaster_BLR-1G.jpg) Maybe a little bit of this (http://www.sarna.net/wiki/images/5/58/Blr-4s_battlemaster.jpg) The head had to stick out more, somehow. That's what the Battlemaster is all about. I just think it is a beautiful new 'mech, but it is undeniable it would be impossible to tell it's a Battlemaster just by looking at it. I like that it has huge legs, it will probably make sense to aim for them for a change. Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: eldaec on October 09, 2013, 02:09:39 PM So I dumped some cash into this because why not. When I pick my cockpit dangly bits - is there any reason to pick one faction over another? Do these factions have preferences for certain mechs/weapons/whatever?
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Falconeer on October 09, 2013, 02:12:15 PM Ekman said they will when Community Warfare and the whole lore driven metagame will be implemented, and prices and availabilities will change based on factions. But he said so many things it is hard to believe anything...
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Falconeer on October 09, 2013, 02:13:45 PM Here is the Thunderbolt.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWKfcR7CIAAJku4.jpg:large) Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Lantyssa on October 09, 2013, 02:37:53 PM Uh, wrong side. And don't we have enough 'mechs who stash everything in the RT already?
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: eldaec on October 10, 2013, 03:04:23 AM On the other hand, reasonably high hard points and a what looks like a manageable CT hitbox. Those lasers are presumably all LT.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Falconeer on October 10, 2013, 03:48:21 AM I hate that they didn't go for a lower in-the-chest cockpit like the original and put the lasers on top of it eventually, that would have been really unique, as the Thunderbolt should be. On the other hand, people whine on the forums about the lack of the undersling laser in the left arm, but I guess that is based on variants and installed weapons, so I wouldn't cry about that yet. After all, it is present in the concept art used to sell the product.
EDIT: All in all I would say the screenshot doesn't do it any justice. It is from a weird, low angle so I am eagerly waiting to see the real thing in action. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/MWO%20Thunderbolt%20art.jpg) (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/MWO%20Thunderbolt%20screen.jpg) Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Falconeer on October 10, 2013, 10:39:20 AM Shadow Hawk 2D2 with the Flame pattern.
:heart: (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWO1db7CcAAVlPk.jpg:large) Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Falconeer on October 12, 2013, 09:05:19 AM A lot of new pictures, mostly for scale comparison but they definitely give more angles about the upcoming Phoenix 'mechs. Plenty more under the spoiler tag.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/MWO%20Battlem%20scale.jpg) (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/MWO%20Thunderb%20scale.jpg) v MORE HERE v Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: eldaec on October 12, 2013, 03:59:15 PM So basically the locust is the size of a spider and the other 3 are the size of a large heavy or small assault.
You'd think it wouldn't be so hard to keep size proportional to weight. Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Falconeer on October 12, 2013, 04:20:17 PM By the way, they announced the Locust will go as fast as 170 Kph, and the 3M variant will have 5 energy hardpoints and 2AMS to defend itself from streaks. Interesting.
About weight and size, it's a known fact that they fucked up some of the early 'mechs, but for these recent ones they are providing with explanations based on game balancing and other things that aren't simply based on "more weight = more size". I can't recollect them all here, but in general I didn't disagree too much. The Shadow Hawk for example is a high mobility 'mech with very good armour. It is the same weight of a Kintaro and it is pretty much the same height (but not the same width). The Thunderbolt is short, but it is wide. Hmmmm Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Shannow on October 13, 2013, 09:35:23 AM By the way, they announced the Locust will go as fast as 170 Kph, and the 3M variant will have 5 energy hardpoints and 2AMS to defend itself from streaks. Interesting. Oh this isn't going to be annoying or anything. Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Falconeer on October 14, 2013, 11:04:04 AM New video, Phoenix 'mechs preview. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tty2qIczfC8)
Gods, the view from the Shadow Hawk cockpit, with the cannon sticking out on the left, is gorgeous. (Around 0:43) Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Ironwood on October 15, 2013, 12:24:46 PM That Battlemaster looks MUCH better when it's moving. Much.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Sir T on October 15, 2013, 02:55:31 PM It could hardly look worse.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: 5150 on October 16, 2013, 05:29:02 AM I have to say I'm really enjoying using the Thunderbolt SE currently (the one with jumpjets)
Not sure why, but I'm pleased there is now a heavy Mech I don't feel crap in (Catapult)* Not having much fun in the Battlemaster so far but that might be that I'm too broke from grinding chassis over the double XP weekend to do much with the fits yet. *Yes I have the Muromets and it is a gibmachine but I'm old school Battletech and like a mix of weapons ranges on my Mechs, unfortunately LRM fitted Catapults suffer at close range (except the Streak-Cat which suffers at anything other than short range) Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: 5150 on October 16, 2013, 11:37:49 AM Uh, wrong side. And don't we have enough 'mechs who stash everything in the RT already? Oddly that's the only variant with the launcher on that side Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Falconeer on October 16, 2013, 01:23:27 PM I really like that the Thunderbolts are so different, with differently sized launchers on different shoulders. In love with the 'mech. Doesn't look like my favourite from the 80s at all, but an instant crush for this "loosely inspired by" version. Also, it moves and feels like a truck, and I love trucks (it is why I love the Awesome).
Screenshots of the Thunderbolt 5S (P) and the Thunderbolt 5SS. The back of the huge launcher on the 5S looks like a gigantic subwoofer. (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/MWO%20Thundrs%205S.jpg) (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3584773/MWO%20Thunders%205SS.jpg) Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: 5150 on October 17, 2013, 04:41:32 AM By the way, they announced the Locust will go as fast as 170 Kph, and the 3M variant will have 5 energy hardpoints and 2AMS to defend itself from streaks. Interesting. Oh this isn't going to be annoying or anything. The most annoying thing right now is the packs of Locust you get in some games (think I've seen 4 at one point). Killing them with LRM fire seems pretty effective as they are so fragile (if your spotters can stay on them). Hopefully once the novelty wears off and/or people finish the basic boxes we'll start to see less of them. Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Shannow on October 18, 2013, 06:49:43 AM Wow a lot of people paid for these packages if last nights drops were any indication...I'd say 3/4 of the mechs I dropped with in 6 battles were BLRs, SHDs, LCTs etc
It's also glorious cause obviously a lot of them haven't played in a while and they suck. Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Ironwood on October 18, 2013, 07:56:45 AM Watching a lot of Battlemasters in action and they really seem to have some quite awesome survivability. One last night got utterly fucking hammered by everything and was almost bright red all over and STILL took two down before the match ended. Yes, he was still alive at the end.
The other mechs I'm not sure about, but I do like the massive fuck off guns sticking out the side of the cockpit. Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: eldaec on October 19, 2013, 10:11:32 AM Shadowhawk is the first medium I've been happy with ballistics on. Having fun swapping ac5s out for multiple ac2s.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Falconeer on October 19, 2013, 11:06:54 AM The Shadow Hawk cannon is so pretty. I love the animation from the cockpit, the barrel "recoiling" after every shot. So cool.
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: Shannow on October 19, 2013, 03:50:14 PM Personally though I think the shd from the outside looks as ugly as sin
Title: Re: Project Phoenix (Reseen and stuff) + now updated with Saber pack. Post by: 5150 on October 21, 2013, 04:53:36 AM Personally though I think the shd from the outside looks as ugly as sin Agreed I'm not a fan of the Hawk either inside or out. Can't really put my finger on why, the limited ammo might be [part of] it. The 4 missile Locust has my attention, shame I cant get more than 3 streaks on with Beagle (and without Beagle I never seem to get a lock!) unless I want to downgrade the engine (and die) |