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I'll leave it to schild to make the actual E3 thread, but figured I'd put this up so people know in advance when all the press conferences are going on. These are all on Monday, and all times listed are in PT.

Microsoft: 9:30am
EA: 1pm
Ubisoft: 3pm
Sony: 6pm

Nintendo isn't doing an actual press conference, but they will be doing some sort of presentation at 7am on Tuesday.

Twitch.tv has a schedule available for the livestreams they'll be doing through the week: (http://venturebeat.com/2013/06/05/twitch-to-livestream-the-newest-games-directly-from-e3/)


Spike/GT have the following events lined up: (http://www.gametrailers.com/side-mission/53866/the-e3-schedule-for-spike-and-gametrailers-is-here)


Gamespot has their schedule here (http://www.gamespot.com/e3/).

I'll try to add anything else of note later as well as maybe some livestream links for the press conferences if I get a chance.

This is the Nintendo Tuesday Stream  (http://e3.nintendo.com/?om_rid=AAECFe&om_mid=_BRslDZB8zM3TF2&eid=EM10085)I got in my email.

Will there be other first party streams for the other stuff or to Twitch I go?

7 AM on Tuesday is basically "we don't want anyone to show up".

Ready your image macros.

They've got some fucked up confusing scheduling involving a bunch of shit throughout the day, but it's Nintendo so it wasn't really worth figuring out beyond the 7am thing that seems to be their main event.

ND is always at 6 or 7 AM because it plays simultaneously in all regions.

http://www.e3insider.com/press-conferences/

And it begins...

Oh an E3 thread. Let's dump everything in here. Changing the title.

Right now: MGS is Grand Theft Snake.

Not entirely sure this MGS demo isn't actually a joke.

It's either going to be the actual worst game ever or super awesome, there's no middle ground here.

The realistic passing of time is one of the dumbest things games have tried to do.

This is seriously the worst trailer I've seen for a AAA game ever.

Japan has absolutely no idea how to design an actual open world game, so this is precisely the sort of trailer I'd expect. But like, why the fuck does this game exist? What happened to the awesome hospital thing that was going on?

In true Kojima fashion this looks like 20 minutes of story for every minute of gameplay.

Don't get me wrong, I'm watching this to see the train wreck live, so this is meeting all my expectations.

I want this game: (http://i.imgur.com/OyqnP2w.gif)

What I was just shown could LITERALLY not be further than what was teased earlier.

omg the hippest guy in game design next to Don. I hope he calls him a "square."

Wow, really, you had to prompt for clapping?

well yea

lets clap

fuckit
why not

Does anyone actually see any clapping going on in the audience?

 Like. aren't we at the point where Microsoft should've just thrown Notch infinity dollars so he would just port Minecraft?

What's this tank shit?

the actual worst trailer ever

just made mgs 5 look good

i hope it's called

"TANK"

god that was awful

It's basically a ripoff of that tank shooting game I can't remember the name of.







Scorched earth, I think.

World of Tanks. They emphasized that it was a game that had never been on a console before.

who plays this shit?

Also, Scorched Earth was awesome. This was not awesome.

Is this exciting? I mean, really? World of Tanks? Team Fortress Army Nerd?

Uh... (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=17053.0)

Yeah, I don't get this either.  It's like they're trying to pull in non-fps players, by bringing in a game that's basically an fps...

I know we have a large thread about it.

Doesn't make it right.

Does Microsoft give these people voice coaches to ensure that their accents are as sterotypically offensive as possible?

ehhhdhhdhhhhhhhhhhh

max should only be an ipad game

Good lord, this accent.

Also since we're talking about World of Tanks, doesn't this mean this is another conference from Microsoft with pretty much no games? Because I'm not sure if I'd want to lead, middle, or close with World of Tanks.

best trailer, right here

git yer dark souls

(on the PS4)

I will commend them on Going from Trailer into Trailer. That's all E3 should be. The more people talk, the more gaming angels die.

I really hope Sony just like, blows the doors off this shit and has finally coughed up dough for From to make Demon's Souls 2.

March 2014 for Dark Souls 2.

This man is a professional liar.

They need to zoom into the crowd. I still haven't found a single person in the audience actually clapping.

Yeah, but at least he's obviously so.  I just want to punch him to make him stop talking.

lol it actually said Xbone due to the way he was standing. Indeed.

I'm digging this art.

Is this an autobiography by the games industry?

100% sure I'll never play it.

From is making a Demon Souls type thing for PS4 exclusively.

Microsoft god of war knock off?

RYSE

The God of War Bus left the station like 7 years ago.

THIS IS THE ONLY SENTENCE IN THE THREAD THAT WILL EVER MATTER.

I love not following gaming news.

Wow this looks like actual shit.

Gears of Rome.

My bad, call of duty, roman d-day edition.

WHO WANTED THIS TO BE A GAME? ANYBODY?

BUELLER? BUELLER?

First Person Shooter doesn't work that way.

This is way more Gears than it is CoD.

He's clearly a 3rd person space marine with a gladius.

holy shit quicktime events for inconsequential enemies

they could not have done this more wrong

Yeah, sorry, I just lump all those terrible games together under the call of duty banner.

Way too many QTE's.

Amazing graphics ruined by B Y A graphics

this is literally hitler for the action genre

These graphics aren't actually that good Sky. They're kind of shit.

Call of Duty: Rome

I play minecraft

Is that shield wall gameplay supposed to look exciting?

IN THE INTEREST OF TIME

what does it take 25 minutes to kill 13 elbows?

I've played Age of Empires 2. That roman squad would be dead.

(http://i.imgur.com/RB7BhB6.gif)

Think he's killed the same guy 11 times.

Ye gods that looks annoying

this is the longest trailer for something no one cares about I've ever seen

Could be amazing. Trailer is shit. Never ever gonna play it.

Also that name is stuppppid to the maxxxxxx.

I keep trying to come up with something to say to express how utterly awful this game looks, on top of it's terrible name, but I'm just going to have to leave it at this.

Oh, it's Crytek.  Time to get a snack.

Cevat, how low you've sunken.

God. Every single person that stands in the dead center of the stage makes it say XBone behind them.

I am biased but this Rome game is shit and it's annoying.

I suppose someone had to make the Heavenly Sword for this generation.

WHAT THE FUCK

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOA

Just kidding, Rare will never be able to recreate the original.

This game was totally kinda maybe a little popular back in 1990.

brb going to get my arcade cabinet from the storage unit to play killer instinct

Insomniac, one of the many relationships Sony totally fucked up.

This man has the largest ears I've ever seen.

This sounds like a wonderful idea. I see no way this could end poorly.

It's a LIVING WORLD GAME.

Can we "sell" that concept to console gamers still? Like people who don't know MMOGs keep failing at that?

(guys I kind of love insomniac but I totally don't care about this on the xbox because it means xbox gamers)

(also, I only have eyes for one online game)

(Hex)

Honestly, Insomniac has been dropping the ball badly ever since they went multiplatform.  I'm not sure what happened.

OH MAN GUYS

FORZA

WHOOOOOOOO

EXCITING

That Insomniac game is going to somehow compete with Fortnite.

Fortnite looks good though.

god forza who cares

That car is the coolest thing Mirosoft will ever show on a stage ever.

A CAR

A CAR

LET'S CHEER

/wrists

Yeah, but you knew they were going to announce it, they had to, just like you know Sony is going to bring up Gran Turismo.

holy shit this dudes eyes

hollywood prop not a human

the uncanny valley right there on stage

jesus christ the wankery shutup

I can't taste the air.  Douchebag.

He's as bad as the car game guy from the PS4 conference talking about the feel of the materials and shit.

I'm not sure, but I think this man probably belongs on a Federal Watch List.

A lot of time went into that Carbon Fiber dash so I'm not sure what he's talking about.

holy shit

driveatar lol

He said cloud.

This is the end of AI.  Now let me tell you about our new AI.

I used to love Killer Instinct. But the reality is that it was never a good game, and the new one didn't even look good graphically. Could easily have passed for a 360 game.

Ryse - a "better with Kinect" QTE-fest. "Capture the tower", "advance to the tower", "capture the tower", "let's get that tower", "advance to the tower", "capture the tower"...we get it...you need to get to the tower.

drivatar

 :facepalm:

I kind of want to play Forza now because every single car is going to drive like total shit

CLOUD PROCESSING!!!!!

A DRIVEATAR!!!!!

STOP SAYING DRIVEATAR!

"They don't drive like AI, they drive like people". Seriously? This is hilarious.

I wonder how many accidents will be on the Asian servers for Forza.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/39720/animated%20gifs/W6kxBkI.gif)

Driveatar might be the dumbest thing I've heard from one of these press conferences and he won't stop saying it.

All I can think of is if they really play like players, none of the cars are ever going to be on the road.  I'm terrible at these games.

Hey they gave it a spiffy new name! It's not AI, it's a "drivatar."

How has douche supreme not been completely drummed out of the industry?

You can play with your friends when they aren't playing! And their not playing counts as their playing for the purposes of earning fake currency!

I don't even have to play the game to play the game. I wonder how much that costs.

Phil Harrison can't even make himself sound excited.

I'm glad I'm not playing an XBone drinking game, since I'd be shitfaced from drinking during mentions of "cloud" from the Forza reveal alone.

that jacket is gross

e3 fashion show rite here

Look at his eyes. He looks dead inside.

Indie games have made a BILLION dollars on the Xbox.

Ok, take Minecraft out of that number.

 :why_so_serious:

Minecraft, lol

oh

there's minecraft

Mineshark!

Sweet you can rebuy Minecraft! Is this one the 15 exclusives? lol

I can play Minecraft on my goddamn phone. Why would I need a Bone?

BIGGER WORLDS

MORE MINECRAFT

people need bigger worlds?

could we miss the point harder?

ohgoditsafinnishdudecantstandtheaccent

You know what, as bad as Phil's outfit was, at least he's not going with heroin junkie like this guy is.

waching da show

Oh shit it's TV time again!  They held off as long as they could!

i could not care less about remedy at this point

max payne was a billion years ago fuck youuuuuuu

beyond two souls has paul giamatti

top that, nerds

wow this looks like shit

I want bad tv shows in my games. You read my mind.

Edit: Oh, even the game is a bad tv show.

the first game to be exclusive to the oxygen network

I'm the uncanny valley!

is Swery65 Suda51's younger retarded brother?

He's the guy that made Deadly Premonition, and I'm not going to bag on that one until I see it.

It's really creepy whenever a tech guy stays "magic".

yes except he doesn't know anything about programming.

in all seriousness

I'm excited about some of these games, but like - Microsoft is absolutely incapable of making me believe they can give me a reason to buy an X1.

PAHSHUN. 

Who lets these guys on stage?

Is that the first black guy in the history of Microsoft press events? Because if so, bravo to them.

Cineckt smartglass! I'm already on my way to preorder!

TECH DEMOS AS GAMES HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUR

Yeah, this was interesting when modnation did it last year for the Vita.

edit:  yeah, sorry, sarcasm doesn't translate well, it wasn't interesting then either.

Every generation someone tries to make "making games" fun.

Never gonna work no matter how cool it looks.

Ever.

So, let's just stop.

I have no video feed at work.

Serek Dmart is on the stage?   :grin:

Dorkiest black guy in history.



BEEEWWWWWWWM!!

LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT LITTLE BIG PLANET IN 2013

OH WAIT

-

lol 3 days later

12 year old me wants to love this

31 year old me knows this is a total piece of shit

dorkiest indeed

This actually looks decent. Still not buying an Xbone.

If someone told me the XBone was launching in fall 2014 I'd believe it. Most of these games either have CG trailers or "in game" CG shit as the only thing they can show.

Wtf is this? "Spark, make me a game! Good job spark!" This is a...make your own tower defense game out of giant prefab components?

Oh, this is a windows game. Now this smartglass shit makes sense.

No, it doesn't. It looks like shit. I promise.

I like the constant framerate drops on the awesome power of the XBONE

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82533/granpasimpson.gif)

Smartglass / Kinect segment, yay.

IT'S HER FAVORITE FEATURE GUISE, GURLS DO PLAY GAMES.

there is absolutely no way human beings outside of microsoft were asked for honest opinions of this stupid shit

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/39720/animated%20gifs/tumblr_mlkpes2Kex1s373hwo1_500.gif)

THIS IS GONNA GET INTERESTING

FOR REAL

NOPE

I love press conference trash talk

it's always the best

Man, they aren't even pretending to play the game well.

ohhhh.. a rape joke

I want to hear a racial slur right now.

Only then will I buy an Xbox One.

When does this stop being sad

Oh man that triangle. I thought they were going to launch the next portion of Advent Rising.

So that is what Urkelis doing now...

Ahahah they totally slapped this shit in due to the PS4's share ability which no one cares about

ALSO CLOUD DRINK

but nope, it's the upload logo

Oh god I thought it was just me...

EPIC SKILL

that jago, so hot right now

connect with kinect for kinect cloud  in the kinect cloud while you kinect.

Someone should call PETA

gonna be totes sick

kill me

Listening to these people fake enthusiasm makes my fucking skin crawl, so many douchechills

REAL MONEY!

No one on the xbox has more than 100 "friends" except Wil Wheaton

sssshhhh

just let it happen

Gold still sucks.

Took them 2 generations to figure out points were stupid

god the speed of advancement in that thinktank

Why didn't he just say "Panzer Dragoon 2?"

also, guys I really want a new Phantom Dust

IS THIS ON?

Gold account confirmed! Pay 2 DRM!

Matchmaking in the background is a legitimately good feature, as is matchmaking notifications as you watch TV. It's a godsend for games with small communities.

Also these guys aren't actually playing KI. You think a producer would at least be better at faking.

Is this supposed to not have audio?

Xbox sound! I am dying here...

hahahahahahha nice job with the reveal guys

yeah lets just gloss over the fact that video's audio failed

So, apparently Killer Instinct is being developed by Double Helix, the makers of such hit titles such as Men in Black: The Game, Green Lantern: The Game and Battleship: The Move: The Game.

I'm not sure what's worse, the lack of sound/audience giggling or a FUCKING RAIL SHOOTER.

Capcom Vancouver? that's a place?

the audio got lost in the cloud

oh right

dead rising

whatever

lets not capture the brilliance of how weird the first one was ever

I might have cared about this before I played Dead Rising 2.

Nick Ramos? Fucking racists.

Yeaaaaaaa this is very much the opposite of Dead Rising 1. :(

He looks like a goddamn member of Menudo.

Spanish Mechanic.

They're Canadian. They can get away with that.

"Oh man, this city loco,"

male version of Kristen Schaal?

NO ONE WANTED AN OPEN WORLD DEAD RISING

I DON'T UNDERSTAND

WHO IS HIRING THESE DESIGNERS

They've covered wars you know.

Rail shooter is ok. I loved Sin and Punishment 2. Crimson Dragon is a Kinect-based 360 rail shooter that got hastily bumped to Bone.

WTF did they do to Dead Rising? It went from wacky colorful game to brown open-world shooter. Oh look, he got hit and now his screen has red jam on it yay.

artillery support.. wat

witcher 3.. boobs inc.

"Combat won't suck so bad this time".

SMARTGLASS artillery support. Totally different.

whenever they say something is coming to the xbox one I keep wondering why they would make a game for a decade old console

The one time a european should actually be on stage, one isn't, wtf...

And much applause was heard!

This is like a parody "What if Americans made Dead Rising"?

We all know what the trademark of Witcher is.

Here we get a projekt red guy on stage to grudgingly talk about the port we payed them fucking millions for because projekt red despises consoles

TITS OR GTFO

oh yay...EA

oh great

more wargame crap

snack time

Maybe next they can remake the first Witcher since I've never managed to slog through it.

did that guy say the xbone inspires "new ideas" while discussing Battlefield 4 which is literally like the 12th game in the series

So fired!

Oh snap!

We will start over.

Yeah, but cloud smart glass.

YAY!

Best demo yet.


Least bad?

QUiet!

As if this press release wasn't awkward enough without the sound cutting out.

Just punch out guys, leave while you can. disappear. sidle off stage

FUCKIT

WE'LL DO IT LIVE

live demos have always been the worst part of pressers

24 hours is up.... need authorization!

lol

awkward

This is painful.

i was hoping the xbone dev kit had red ringed

A game so bad, even the demo didn't want to play.

how is this uncut in-game footage?

isn't it the opposite of that?

closed quarters battlefield

new ideas, bitches

This is more boring than the technical difficulties.

The fuck is this shit?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/91/Cold_Fear.jpg)

brb playing battlefield 3

The sound is not helping this trailer.

This looks like a fucking mess.

what the hell is even going on here?

I see nothing astounding about BF4. What has changed?

A Lets Play, I think.

MY GOD ITS FULL OF STARS!!!

GET ON WITH IT

Even the announcers are falling asleep.

Sweet, xbox players get to pay extra money first!!!

day1dlc

we've learned nothing

Think he just did some lines in the back.

Kineckted world, jesus fucking christ.

That BF4 looks like every other shooter on rails  :uhrr:

I can't wait to play Zelda from these guys on the ipad

4 of those studios won't be around in 2 years most likely.

no one in canada is creating a world class team

world class people don't move to canada

nerds don't do "cold"

so, splinter cell?

Was that a trailer or just the studios logo?

"It's running in-engine"

Shows 5-second in-engine cutscene.

Oh man, that game was so not finished. Like at all.

WAS REALLY EXCITED WHEN I THOUGHT THAT WAS ZONE OF THE ENDERS

Fucking no.

zzzz

Deeper, richer stories, about fucking Halo.

I thought this thing looked kind of cool, then it was Master Chief.

Oh ffs... this is the same god damn line up as EVERY YEAR. HALO...check, BF4... check, driving game....check. where is Madden?

Some shambling dude, big bleak desert, sudden mech.. then Master Chief.   Boner died.

60fps folks! You know, that thing that we should be able to do anyway but have to advertise as an amazing feature because we cheaped out on our hardware!

$500

holy shit

why

And they really are touting this 60fps thing.

Guys you don't need to clap at $499.

what the fuck would I be paying $500 for?

FINAL FANTASY 7

just kidding

Dude.

Dude, get your hand out of your pocket while talking about them giving you money.

Dude.

Seriously.

call of bluthy

I thought we'd make it through a whole presentation with minimal call of duty

i was wrong

you know what's fun

activision's Lost Planet

This is MS. MS has been Forza / Dudebro shooters / ESPN for years.

$499 - dead silence.

Surprised no Epic presence. Maybe they'll be at Sony?

Call of Duty with Mechs is Respawn's big game?

This of course means the PS4 is gonna be like $600, but whatever.

Could we maybe get one fucking person on stage who isn't a lying, disingenuous asshole?

Didn't sony announce some sort of deal regarding the unreal engine and the ps4 back at their initial reveal?  That might explain alot there.

How many Xbone's do you think honesty will sell?

So they have dudes who can hack into stuff remotely, but not drones?  Why is it always dudes with guns in the future?

HEY SOMEONE MADE CALL OF TRIBE DUTY FIELD!!!!! WITH MECHS!!!

I see them going for the throat and selling it at $300-$400 this gen. They're already making licensing dollars for Blu-Ray off Microsoft for every single XBox One sold/made.

Also, they have an actual chance of fucking crushing both companies in one generation. This does not happen often - and has not happened since the SNES. The PS1 and PS2 eras were pretty dominated by Sony but it wasn't like the SNES crushing the Genesis into a protein compound unheard of by man up to that point.

More logical than mechs.

How many more bones will this presentation sell?

If Sony is going for the throat they'll have their guy walk out, say "$299" or "$399" then drop his mic and walk off stage.

I'm not sure what's worse, the fact that there was almost no gameplay footage of anything, or what gameplay footage was shown.

I've seen this game a hundred times.

In this case, their "guy" should be Pharrell. Then Get Lucky plays and everyone gets a free copy of The Last Guardian.

Also the toilet flush lever

Did not enjoy guy, try again with a game that actually makes sense.  Hire better designers.

"should be 2014 spring"

olol

well

that was a bunch of trash shoved in my eyes, ears, and mouth

full force

leaving til the sony conference

feeling like this

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/39720/animated%20gifs/1XJWewt.gif)

So which one of the brown games with guns and severe framerate drops/texture popin should I play first?

The series I never cared about?
The series the devs forgot the point of?
The series that's always better on PC?
Or the new shooter that no one will play because all of the above series and CoD being "better"?

you forgot Ryze

the brown game without guns

But you can make infinite games with that kinecticlass toolset thing!

There was not a single thing even remotely exciting. My expectations were low but I was expecting a couple of surprises or at least a couple things I would want to play.

BF 4 is I think the final piece of the EA Acquisition puzzle. It's the last dryhumping of a successful franchise before the slow decline caused by not actually doing shit to make the later iterations of the franchise better or even remotely fucking different. This is Command & Conquer, the FPS version.

Also, $500.

FUCK

YOU.

There has literally not been one thing this console has shown me that even remotely makes me interested in it.

There's always your soundless dragon based shooter.

So, 500, Gold account required, DRM, bad performance, what else?

I'd like to see the Ubisoft conference just out of the hope that Patrice will cause a chandelier to crash on stage or shut the lights off and kidnap one of the presenters.

Ubisoft sucks ass and I don't care.

Reports are coming in that some of the footage shown was PC footage due to technicalities encountered.

There was a "Press Backspace for Battlelog" thing in the BF4 video.

Yes, that's... kind of my point. I think their recent actions are worse than anything EA has ever done.

Usually when I decide not to buy a console I know I'm missing out on at least some good stuff. Here though the decision is so easy.

Dead Rising 3 is the one thing I might have missed, so thanks to them for turning it into a game I can safely ignore.

I wouldn't be surprised to see it end up on the PC later anyway.

It always does and for like $10-$20 less.

If it has some sort of infinite mode that doesn't suck, I'll pick it up.  Otherwise, no, I'll skip until a Steam sale.  The new protagonist is the worst so far.  Game looked way to brown (har har), and the controls looked really bad even for a Dead Rising game.

The Ubisoft presentation should show Watch Dogs, right?  That should be worth watching for, if nothing else.

$500? Someone should let them know I can build a pc sans monitor for $500 these days. Best part is. $500 and 500 EU bucks, same thing right? How much money will that thing cost in Australia?

PS4 will cost more.

I would totally be spazzing out excited for mech tribes of duty on my pc if it wasn't a console game. But it is so somehow core gameplay will be compromised so people can play it in 60fps (lol) with their thumbstick aiming and 8 buttons or whatever.

Did they say the second guy who came on stage was playing live? There is zero fucking chance of that. Also that "gameplay" looked so floaty both the movement and aiming. Fucking consoles.

I skipped to the end of this thread, what did I miss?

Everyone sucks. The end.

$499 for an overpriced, glorified PC that wants to charge you monthly to use web and other services you could get elsewhere without such fees.

Pass.

I feel there is one important innovation: f2p games that you need a Gold account to play.

The most succinct example of why I think Kojima is a hack. They constantly had the MGS5 gameplay doing some weird fast forward, sped up thing, because who wants to see that shit? Gameplay is just what we slog through to get to the cutscenes filled with Kojima's awesome writing right?

Also now that I think about it "Just let it happen, it'll be over soon" should have been MS's slogan for this conference.

(http://i.imgur.com/V5rYDOL.jpg)

Insert pic of Geoff Keighley here.

i am dreaming

fuck
kill me now

please i want to get off

MGS5? People still want to play that game? Isn't that shit like 20 years old now?

Man, I bet Kojima so wants to just not make any more MGS titles because he got to tell the story he wanted to (you can kinda tell Kojima enjoyed indulging his walls-of-text writing style in MGS4, which pretty definitively wraps the whole 80+ year Metal Gear arc up), but it's the only thing anyone knows him for now because people are fucking philistines who don't remember Zone of the Enders.

Well what could be better? More calories for a more sedentary lifestyle. Makes perfect sense.

Too bad Sony is hemorrhaging money like it's going out of style. MS, on the other hand, has more money than it knows what to do with.

There was a little pamphlet advertising this in the cupholder of every seat at the Microsoft keynote.

I kinda thought that Sunshine Overdrive game looked neat.

To me it seemed impossibly generic.

Pre-orders are now up on Amazon.   :uhrr:

Incidentially there's a new (likely final) revision of the 360. $200 for a 4GB version+Kinect and $300 of your earth dollars for a 250GB model without it.

lol, 2013 and 6-7 years into the console's life and still $300 for a usable model.

EA kicking off their conference with Plants vs. Zombies.

Battlefield 5: Plants vs Zombies

Does nobody in the gaming industry know how to speak to a crowd without sounding awkward?

This actually could have been interesting if they'd had the balls to play it 100% serious with a MW satire.

Announcement of Peggle 2 but no footage. And here comes that damn mech game again.

So Plants vs. Zombies Dungeon Defenders clone. Meh.

Well at least they don't have a creepy misogynist at the helm of it unlike Dungeon Defenders.

Why do I hear random assholes talking in the background? Great job, guys.

Also, GET ON WITH IT.

edit:  God, the guy doing the gamespot stream keeps talking and clearing his throat.  Time to find another stream.

I thought those voices were in my head.

I'm ok with that teaser.

Ohh god.  This guy and his fucking accent again.

Need for Speed needs a fucking rest.

Another game screwing up the verisimilitude with icons

What the hell accent was that?

Oh, fantastic.  This will be awkward.

This movie brought to you by hair gel

Need for Speed: Cars Doing Barrel Rolls

Is this the one with Vin Diesel?

EA wants to be in the movie business so bad

SHUT UP, BACKGROUND GUY.  I WANT TO WATCH THIS ONE.

Hi, we didn't rush out this Dragon Age.

Translations: Holy shit Bethesda pwned us

Personally?  I will leave this world to its bitter end.

That showed me nothing.  Thanks, dicks.

FUCK MADDEN. Fuck, Madden.  

*tepid applause*

Long way off for Dragon Age.

Yeah, nothing was my first thought, too. Waste of money.

sportssportsports (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDpzJk3X020)

He's angry.

WHAT THE HELL.

I'd be fine with the sports if they show a new Fight Night.

At least he isn't making rape jokes.

"I'm uncomfortable around negroes."

Hey, basketball guy, WHY DO YOU DRIBBLE? Can you dribble my massive head?

At least he didn't ask him to handle his balls.

bounceTek. Not quite as bad as driveatar, but they're trying.

Get this.  Stupid crap people don't care about.  Here's a catch phrase.

Pipe in that crowd noise.  Why does every player still look like they have downs?

Man, look at that awesome dribbling! Next Gen is here!

I choose to believe that NBA Live hasn't had a release in nearly three years solely because they weren't satisfied with the dribbling.

You used to have to hit jump to jump over a fallen player :|

This is a whole lot of talk that doesn't actually mean anything.

It can only be out done with realistic foot planting. 

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82533/who-gives-a-shit-harrison-ford.gif)

I don't think gameplay footage means what he thinks it does.

They said actual gameplay footage. This doesn't look like gameplay.

Madden is chock full of dead eyed players doing the same shit they've done for the last 15 iterations.

HAH. DRAKE.  GAME OVER.  Degrassi, bitches.

Well, I imagine it's the replay cameras, but Harrison is going to need a glass of water.

Well, shitty games need shitty 'musicians'.

I thought the XBone was supposed to be the most advanced console platform imaginable. Why can't it play prerendered "in-game" cutscenes without stuttering?

More 'gameplay'

My understanding is that the FIFA games are pretty good. Of course I find soccer fairly boring so I've never tried one.

Did all of these developer fuckheads just recycle their scripts from E3 six years ago only adding idiotic phrases like THE CLOUD and DRIVEATAR!!! to make sure people think it's new?

I don't let reality get in the way of a crappy joke.

Bruce Buffer.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10657011/MSe3.jpg)

Oh FIFA is fun for sure. But I don't think THE CLOUD is going to particularly make it more fun.

Also, did they just pipe in crowd noise? Probably to wake up the crowd.

Sess needed the GOld membership at the MS conference

Did he just say the cake door?

I guess UFC is what I get instead of Fight Night. Hopefully the ground game doesn't suck.

FIGHTING IS IN MY DNA!!!

Man, I get that the EA bread and butter is their sports line, but this segment is so friggin' long.

Is it that hard to show gameplay?

Levelution!


Drink

Commander mode: awesome for clan games, crap for pubs

Woot! Sweaty, dead-eyed homoerotic games!

And now more homoerotic games WITH GUNS.

Can they just stop letting French and French Canadien developers present?

Wait, they are putting back in the feature they removed from BF3 for fucking TABLETS? So that people who aren't playing with me can point out where the other team is and drop air strikes on their heads?

I... What?

LET'S DO THIS. I'M PUMPED.

They should make it realistic, run into buildings

Looking Down Sights, Shooting Shit: The Game.

Taking a dump...and dumping orbital strikes on Haem's head...



Posted from my tablet

That totally looks nothing like Battlefield 3.  :oh_i_see:

Jet skis man. Welcome to the Levelution.

USE THE MICE DUMBASSES.

PLEASE.  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEtm_Q2LK9g)

WUUUUUUUUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUUUUUUUB.

"Thanks guys that was pretty ba... good."

You're seeing it.  Gameplay means "use the game engine to render" instead of prerendered cutscenes nowadays. Nobody actually has mechanics to show off as it's all been the same for 10 years so there's nothing to show off.  

This is what exclusive licensing and Nothing-But-FPS gets you.

Mirror's Edge 2: The Punchening.

Couldn't finish the first Mirror's Edge game, but it's nice they're making another one.

They seem to be under the assumption that anyone played Mirrors Edge for the fighty bits.

"It's going to be a great year for gamers"

Probably because we'll have so much money we didn't spend on the shit they're shoveling out.

So is there anything being presented at E3 this year that I, as a PC gamer, should be interested in?

E3 will be the reason my son will continue to get spoiled rotten.  Or, I'll just upgrade my PC.

The UFC game was the one game (okay Dragon Age also) I would have liked to see the mechanics of.

What did I miss? Nothing? GREAT

You missed Brown Shooter and the Sporties.

oh fuck

i missed madden and other bullshit that still exists despite me wishing it away every year on my birthday?

You also missed Levelution, bounceTek, foot planting technology, and Drake.

More funny accents and another Battlefield Let's Play.

so, nothing

I missed nothing

also, drake?

LOLLLLL

We're talking about shitty hip hop drake right?

That would be the one.

You also missed a 2 second trailer for DICE's Star Wars Battlefront game, that still was somehow more exciting than 99% of the rest of the stuff they showed.

Maybe next year we won't end up with:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/39720/animated%20gifs/6m0b6.gif)

I just want the show to be open so I can head over tomorrow and play Dark Souls 2.

That's all I want to see.

Maybe Titanfall. I like the cut of their jib.

If what Fabricated said is true of a PS4 exclusive Demon's Souls-Esque thing, I think there's more important things to see than Dark Souls 2.

Edit: Examiner fucking blows and neogaf is down because EA is so heartstoppingly amazing:

http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/08/destiny-of-spirits-trademarked-by-sony/

Yeah, I saw that. I dunno that they'd want to pull out the rug from the yet-to-be-released Dark Souls 2 by announcing something that would be better.

I can hope, though.

or not

(http://media.psu.com/media/articles/image/Destiny.jpg)

the fucking polar opposite of demon's souls 2

bungie and activision wat

i just


just

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/39720/animated%20gifs/zEcMs.gif)

Oh hey, a Vita game!

I have one of those!

Oh. I see. It actually looks like the Sony schedule is supposed to include: Demon's Souls 2, Kingdom Hearts 3, and Uncharted 4. I suppose that's one way to make Microsoft wish they'd never made consoles.

I guess some people kind of liked titanfall?

Supposedly the http://www.twitch.tv/twitch twitch steams don't have retarded commentary.

I don't watch awkward middle-aged executive theater, I just read summaries, so thanks!

I liked Titanfall a lot! And that new Capygames game, Below. That looked neat.

If that really is Sony's lineup, though, that's a lot more exciting.

I want a sequel to dragons dogma. Finally started playing that game and utterly love it. One of my favourite games this generation astonishingly.

Titanfall looks stupid.

I'm late to the party but €499 (that's $660)? Seriously? So probably the same price as a PS 4, no Halo and the with only sequels or mediocre exclusives at launch?

Still no mention if any of the non-game functions will eork outside the US?

Do they actually want to sell those things or what?

Bleh, going to miss the Ubisoft presser due a department meeting.  


(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82533/Futurama_Fry_Looking_Squint.jpg)

 :awesome_for_real:

You'll miss nothing. It's Ubisoft.

Couldn't watch the early streams because of work, but good to hear I didn't miss much. Thanks to everyone for taking one for the team so I can continue to not watch and still get the gist of how shitty E3 has become.

But... new Assassin's Creed.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAH.

Well, Watch Dogs looks cool I guess.  But this we already know.

btw. the stage demos have all been PC demos. You can see the backspace key as symbol in the COD demo e.g.

Kevin Van Ord: "That EA presentation was a bit 'bro'"

DA3 trailer is pleasing to me.

Game is still far off.  But, you are not alone.

My first though was "Hey, why's the Burning Legion invading DA-land?"  :awesome_for_real:

I think one of my favorite parts about the Microsoft conference was when they announced their partnership with Twitch.

And Twitch's Microsoft conference stream had gone down due to technical issues for a good five minutes or so earlier in the conference.

Not only that, but Twitch chokes and dies  whenever certain esports things occur, like the Blizzard SC2 stuff, or major League of Legends tourneys.

There is no way

no

fucking

way

that Twitch integration will be anything less than an unmitigated disaster.

Ubisoft oddly starts off with guy from Alice in Chains doing Man in the Box guitar solo.

Rocksmith. Now I'm interested.

Edit: Rocksmith 2014 edition.

Truckasaurus hands. 

Watching this muted is kind of fun, except everyone's wondering why I'm typing.

Splinter Cell coming up.

Is this presentation for real or an elaborate The Onion prank?

I always thought MS had a PR department or is it staffed with drunk hobos?

Aisha is lovely.

But I don't belive this version of Splinter Cell is the most detailed yet.  Or that she can't wait for it.

#girlwood

waht

why'd they give a tiny girl such big tits

Is this a trick question?

Rayman looks like a weird ugly Vanillaware game.

Also, who the FUCK in the gaming press gets excited about Rayman games?

Or rather, who follows E3 and cares about shit like this?

Who writes the dialogue for this crap?

They're just happy to not be seeing another Titanfall presentation.

They hire actual morons to write this stuff. They go out of their way to find the dumbest people imaginable.

Haha, waits for applause...fucking crickets...

Mighty Marketing for Epic Franchise


yeah it's no TF2.  And hasn't it been in marketing mode for like months/weeks?

https://m.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10151040991508993 (https://m.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10151040991508993)..

Why don't you talk about 1666 while you're up there?

That's a long time to spend on the 4th racing game we've seen today.

Driving Cars Fast: The New IP

That was the most fun looking racing game we've seen thus far though.

If I hear anyone say girlwood in real life, I will be put in prison.

Totally.

Coop driving missions sounds damn fun to me.

I hope it has bumper or first person views. I don't like third person views in racing games.

I have to hand it to Ubisoft for actually playing this shit live.

Ya know, on second thought, that series clearly just doesn't exist for any of us. Making fun of it is just pointless.

Play your TV show.  

YAHTZEEEEEEEEEE

Aisha (6"0) is a giant next to these guys

wooo
assassinscreed
no one should've cared about this to begin with

sigh

It's strange that I really want to play the new South Park game.

Nagasaki!  

I feel like I'm the only person that remembers what a shitshow the first one was since somewhere along the line everyone decided to be all YEA ASSASSINS CREED MAN ITS JUST THE BEST

The noises she makes are far more entertaining than the games they're showing.

Fuck.  Frenchies again.

This is a waste of Aisha.

As you can see from the trailer, we've actually been drinking for literally 7 years. Nonstop.

Just saw this on Reddit:

(http://i.imgur.com/QspSMaB.jpg)

Man that would've been something.

btw, still not buying EA games, Battlefront or not. Anyone that does is an absolute chump.

An MMO? What

SHOW THE GAME ALREADY.

ok im watching

i am on board with whatever they're selling me right now

Nice neckerchief.

you're like 30 seconds ahead of me what the fuck is going on

Again, I think every other major publisher (Activision and UbiSoft) is just as bad if not worse than EA.

I don't disagree. I haven't bought an Activision game in forever. Or a UBISoft game.

What's the point of comparison?

as an aside

omg is this splinter cell?

The saviour of humanity is apparently another dudebro shooter.

twitter is great

This is not a dudebro shooter.

Dudebro shooters require a certain space marine penache.

that steam coming off the manhole cover is the best thing so far

Naw, the city map was really well done.

we should go to like a drugstore or something

it's an mmo

how weird

HRMMM..

I don't quite know what I'm watching here.

i mean ubisofts online shit is as offensively bad as Origin, but he was playing with a PS4 controler. So, like. ugh.

Is it? Just looks like drop in/out multi to me.

Non [Tablet]

DONT WORRY GUYS I GOT THIS

*flies drone into building wall*

I would much rather have had some sort of Resident Evil-esque Splinter Cell game. But, i guess this'll do?

Brace for PVP.

 :roffle:

Guess it is MMOish.

Zombie Souls

That was interesting, but I'm not sure what it is.

Also - does all this shit require UPlay even on consoles?

Somehow, slapping Tom Clancy on it and having it not be Splinter Cell makes it less appealing.

Society might collapse.  Here's a weak boom and some shit raining from the sky.


Yep.

i hope that was money falling

nope

shitty gag

Money is going to kill everyone.


But don't worry, we'll take yours off your hands.

I only caught the tail end of that and I'm kinda glad at this point.

Fetch 10 neckerchiefs

So far nothing announced to make me think that I was wrong spending $500 on Hex rather than a Xbone or PS4. Maybe Sony can announce some good PS3 PS4 exclusives like Last Guardian and FF Versus XIII.

If Last Guardian is a launch title, oh lawdy.

So The Crew has a complete US map, but only three cities?

It's at 3am where I am. Should I stay up for Sony's show?

God this is all so boring.

Everything is a sequel in the same narrow space. Even new IPs are essentially sequels. Like - give me a fucking Folklore or something at least. Anything with some fresh spin. Allow me to dream a little. Give me something where I don't know exactly how it plays by watching 5 seconds of video.

It might be interesting.  Still, go to sleep.  You have a busy day of doing nothing ahead of you.

Unless Sony blows me away, the only real thing I care about is SR4 tomorrow. 

I'm going to E3 tomorrow. Sony and Nintendo better show me something I care about, otherwise it's going to be like 7 hours of I don't know what...maybe I'll play KI for the larfs if it's playable. I think I still remember a 14 hit Jago combo!

I'm excited for Dark Souls 2 but I don't think it's the type of game that plays well at E3 nor do I feel like I need to play it. Maybe Earth Defense Force 2025 will be there.

I'm still gonna hop into Dark Souls 2 and poke around menus and see if I can spot anything neat.

Incorrect. Waking up at 8 to go to court.

You didn't get arrested again, did you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxRf90LWK9c

Operation Garden Warfare is pretty strange.

Sony stream is starting but all these pre-presentation people are awful

http://www.twitch.tv/twitch

Doesn't matter, Mark Rein was at the Sony event.

EVERYONE IS SO EXCITED

livebloggers

lol

Guys, remember when Todd Papy himself came out? The one and only Todd Papy?

URNote


And neither is Sony, apparently.

I can't believe I got up at 4am to watch the sony thing...

Well really... you are not watching anything.

Friend made a pretty good joke about it - "This is the Sony conference. It's their response to Microsoft's thing."

This IS better.

So far it's better than the microsoft one  :roll:

oooo 1 minute warning... hope there are drums.

I SAW DIVEKICK

god dubstep is such shitty music

and X-3

sony just won a nonexistant fight

Wait a minute, this guy is not Asian...   :why_so_serious:

edit: for the context

CRUSH IT, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, TWIST THE DAGGER STOP TALKING SHOW GAMES

It's Jack Tretton, he's the US president.

I don't think Sony has led in with an Asian since 2006.

I'm already more excited, which, unfortunately, means that at some point I unknowingly became a Sony fanboy.

Demon's Souls. That's when. Obviously.

It's Sony's number one property, the Vita!

 we absolutely do not want to know what is on the vita

why kill the momentum with talking about this fucking boat anchor

This Vita lineup is awful, lol. HD remakes of existing HD remakes and a couple wannabe indie darlings.

Because it bridges into the ps4 discussion, I'd rather they do this early than later.

Thing about the Vita is the iphone exists. But all my friends with Vitas love them. Getting people to buy it is fucking impossible though.

Well at least it's Ellen Page...but she's shooting brown people?

The stream on Youtube seems to be working better for me than the twitchtv one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmoZAPDV3ew

moar cars? fuck.  I just finished my commute

PS3 stuff... GET ON WITH IT!

i wanna play rain

They just spent less than 20 minutes on the vita and ps3 combined, that's pretty good and speedy

IT'S A PS2

SWEET

It's a rhombus!

Edit: I mean a parallelogram!

That is actually pretty nice looking.

fondle slab, I like

A COMPLETELY NEW PLAYSTATION

I actually like it, but let's be honest

they just stretched a 1st gen ps2 in Photoshop

goatse on screen

extending their butthole for microsoft and nintendo to see

This guy has never met a tanning bed he didn't like.

They should've cut this whole bit out in response to Microsoft. Literally no one fucking cares. NOBODY.

LEMME TELL YOU HOW MANY GAMERS ARE WATCHING THE CLIENT LIST FOR THE PLOT

I hope this guy has a tanning appointment, boooriiing...

Yeah, fuck more *curated for gamers* bullshit.  I don't need to hear more excuses why the console will not have innovative content, but instead only AAA sequels of DrivingGame(tm), ShootingGame(tm), SportsGame(tm), and ZombieGame(tm).

And why in the world do I want movies and music "tailored for gamers" instead of say ALL movies and music?

Community front and center.

Thanks Michael.

"How to brick a slam dunk" by Sony.

MORE LIEK VIDEO FUNLIMITED

AMIRITE

BOOYABOOYA

just kidding fuck you show games

At least he got out of there fairly quickly instead of dragging it on.

so much goatse

Giovanni Ribisi looks strange with that goatee.

redbox instant? netflix for the ghetto is coming to the ps3?

OH THANK GOD
FLIXSTER

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

An ouya is $99 and movies are free. GET ON WITH IT.

Aaaawkwaaardd

/jimmisimpson

Okay, finally Sony Computer Entertainment.  Please show me something that's not a shitty sequel or a boring retread.

Holy poopadelic, they referenced the ps4nodrm twitter campaign.

generic shooty thing 2013

knights of the round table
in victorian london
steampunk
in whitechapel

wat

There was nothing generic about that. It was pure weirdness.

I'm really tired of "in-engine" video that is just cutscenes. I really don't give a shit if your cutscene is "in-engine" or not, it's still a fucking cutscene.

Looked shiny.  Sadly seems like more zombies.  So sick of zombies.

It's totally werewolves.

guns and cars

GUNS AND CARS

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I thought werewolves.

Disembodied gun is my favorite video game character.

Well, inFamous is fun.

Prototype? Really?

I liked the steampunk thing...

steampunk-shooter.  future-shooter.  racing game.  magical-shooter.  platformer.

To be fair, that rain game from SCEI that looked like Ico is the most interesting thing we've seen thus far.

and it was none of those things

The return of old man face!

REMEMBER IT'S IN ENGINE!

The fuck is this? Sony why.

heh

the orc being a black guy just made me lose it

Sony has to do their "Emotion" thing and a tech demo.  It's their way.

A black Danny McBride.

Third party relations checklist:

[ ] From Exclusive
[ ] Epic Exclusive
[ ] Valve Exclusive
[ ] Bungie Exclusive

Now this looks like Vanillaware. (but it's not, obv)

Just got here, what did I miss from Sony?

Never seen a studio want to be Atlus so hard.

(http://i.imgur.com/VoNCE3A.jpg)

Streaming Don't Starve is gonna get real easy I suppose. Heh.

Indie developer self-publishing and a dedicated space in the store for indie titles.  Curious what the barrier to entry is for PS4 development...

Showing all of these games on stage being played on the PS4 is amazing and I really appreciate it.

God Secret Poncho looks so good

ODDWORLD WHOA

So far it looks like I'm going to be approximately $400 richer this fall.

Late ports of $10 indie games are nice if you already own the system I suppose, but I have no idea how this is supposed to sell me on it to begin with.

4 claps for blizzard, hooray?

Oddworld gave chills.

fuck you nomura

The crew at Square Enix are so strange....

Yeah, that was the one game that stood out to me.

The point pretty much is to stick the knife into Microsoft since Xbox Arcade turned out to be a bad place to go as an indie dev if you actually wanted to uh make money.

Wiiware is even worse believe it or not

winner: sony

I like how I'm supposed to care that Versus XIII got renamed to XV.

No, you're supposed to care about Kingdom Hearts 3.

Looks like Sony sold me a PS4

God Assassin's Creed is ugly as fuck

The physics on that leaf totally glitched out.

Assassin's Creed 4: Bad Uncharted

Was thinking more, Assassin's Creed: Of the Caribbean

Sure.

This looks terrible.

So if the ship gets damaged, does it have to hide behind an island for a few seconds?

FIRED!

OH wow  :drill:

ahahahahh

Oh my.

The VCR playing the pre-recorded footage broke. What a shame.

the fuck

Can I make fun of this guy's disability?

He grew up in a dimension without the letter H.  Poor bastard.

 :awesome_for_real:

Are white outlines around gameplay-relevant objects the new detective vision?

I seriously want them to hack a kinect in watch dogs.

 :awesome_for_real:

The MacGuffin is an ATX mainboard!   (groan)

what happened?

Ubisoft fucked up their AC4 demo and it froze.

Actually thought it was my stream losing the buffer.  :oh_i_see:

The best part of any of the conferences so far was the Supergiant & indie games section of Sony's conference, featuring games that looked like they could have been made for PS2. We're supposed to want to spend $500 on these new systems?

Looking forward to the Nintendo Direct tomorrow morning. It'll still just be sequels to games we've already played a half dozen times, but at least they'll have a more interesting coat of paint.

I thought so too until I realized the dude in the foreground was still moving around.

I am so deep into the uncanny valley they're gonna have to get me out of here with a helicopter.

So the model for the future is "exclusive" DLC and multi-platform titles.. makes sense.

If they follow it up with 399 and no drm they'll be golden. We shall see...

OMG! Dumbledor!

Has Sony announced a price yet? Not watching, just F5ing this thread.  :awesome_for_real:

So. Elder Scrolls Online is going to be on consoles. gonna be terrible

Did they announce pricing yet?

EXCLUSIVE TIMED BETA!

Not yet. No pricing.

oh shit! It's mel gibson!

NICE

Here it comes....

Whoa, straight for the throat.

No DRM folks. G'night.

First real cheering all damn day.

Holy shit.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82533/Js7u8Yy.gif)

Your turn, dickbags.

zing

No restrictions on used games.  Crowd loving that.

Just drop the mic, throw a finger, and walk off.

Biggest cheer of either conference is for simply continuing an existing policy.

Well that's that... game over.

heh

Oh god, he's giggling.  That's awesome.

Biggest middle finger in the console wars since SNES

Headshot... either the publishers punish Sony by withholding titles or MS has to reconsider its approach.

Who knew the first sale doctrine would be an enormous crowd pleaser.  Sony should send Microsoft a big thank you note.

No online requirement for disc based single player games.

stab stab stab

Dear god... just get the price out there and throw the horns.

Seriously, price and leave.

No more talking. You'll ruin it.

Built-in live-streaming (via ustream) is a clever feature.  Beats the crap out of a lot of stupid "social" features.

Sony has my money. Don't F it up.

Drm success, immediately wrecked by paywall FAIL!

Man is looking rather smug up there...  :grin:

Yeah, 5 bucks multiplayer boo

No online multiplayer without plus but...not important anymore?

Wait plus is required for mutliplayer?  I must have missed that.

Seems unfortunate.  Plus as an added-value option instead of a requirement for basic stuff has always seemed wise...

Meh, I didn't really play PS3 games online; that's what my PC is for. As long as the PS4 doesn't cost $600+ they win this round.

Yeah needing + to do online gameplay sucks shit. I don't play console titles online however, so eh.

The end of these presentations is always a stab in the face of other people. It gonna get better.

Plus required for multiplayer is awful. That said Plus is much better than Live in terms of total value.

purty

PS+ actually gave you stuff for your yearly/monthly fee, Xbox Gold was just a shitty paywall in front of peer-to-peer hosted multiplayer and streaming services you already paid for.

The only online play I ever experienced on PS3 was Demon's Souls.  So yeah, not the end of the world.

painful

No drm is totes awesome however, was worried that our library would have to give up lending console games.

It's the pay wall hah

lolthumbsticks

Considering the hamburger theory of bad news, maybe they'll cap it off with a good price. MAYBE.

For another disembodied gun game this at least looks more interesting.

When it's working anyway, which is rare apparently.

Always so painful to watch thumbstick looking in fps, like a head injury

[Not Halo]

New Bungie shooter actually looks interesting! Those aren't words I ever expected to say.

It looks cool, but ye gods I don't see how anyone who has played fps on the pc can deal with it

This is what I was hoping it'd be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA

Kinda of ME3 multiplayer vibe

halo + borderlands + mass effect

OK

jesus

Awesome.

Diablo loot shooter, I'm in.

Fucking owned.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of shooters at all, but I really liked Metroid Prime. I can deal with shooters that have good art design, interesting atmosphere and some exploration elements. At least there is some imagination on display here and some actual design effort.

Looking forward to running and gunning with Xx_WeeDLorD_Bon3rH1tl3r_xX

Wow.

the fuck is going on here?

SHOOT TIL ITS DEAD

oh games

Cloud, drink.

This looks like how in my mind I imagined 16-bit games becoming 3D games, in an alternate reality where they didn't become bland brown military shooters.

That was some vague exclusivity information

oooo

399

I am ONLY ok with cloud gaming because I am getting Google Fiber next year. Otherwise this is stupid.

Drop the mic. Drop the mic. It's over.

Done, go home xbone.

game set match

399. Called it. MS is sooooo dead.

Boom goes the dynamite.

Bye microsoft!

Booya

How about a nice game of chess?

gaming journalists that make fun of the way people talk at these events

just went Arsenio Hall on that bitch

dumb

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/4b406857ae78405ec5157969e19cfac8/tumblr_mo7jbcoCjn1qce7tgo1_r2_500.gif)

Game over, Man. Game over.

Ahahah he effectively DID drop the mic.

$399. No DRM. We out.

At that price and no DRM... I may actually buy a console for the first time since the Playstation 1.

$500 Xbone - shitty Kinect you don't want = $400 (PS4).

no demon's souls

but hey

$400.

winnar

Shit got real.

Beating the xbone is hardly an accompliment at this point, however. Sony showed some interesting games, but there still doesn't seem to be much reason to jump on this generation.

I'm excited because x86 arch and good devtools means (hopefully) more PC ports!

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82533/davechappeldismiss.gif)

Good entry point for some, though. I also haven't owned a console in a while (original xbox/gamecube gen).

So PS4 is cheaper, more powerful and has much more consumer-friendly policies.

MS had to destroy on games to "win" and the games were a wash.

It's extremely hard to imagine why someone would prefer the XB1. If they have kids that love Kinect? In the past competing systems had different strengths and weaknesses, the XB1 pretty much just seems like a worse PS4.

Well, to be fair this thing is going to be packed to the GILLS with DRM.

They're just respecting the first sale doctrine for physical media and not being complete shitheads.  I'll take that, though.  Definitely a big improvement over the other guys.

Still want to hear the story on long tail indie dev stuff and self-publishing.  Hope they're doing something like their Vita program, instead of the "need to be a company and buy a $30k devsystem" approach.

(http://i.imgur.com/g7ebpAb.jpg)

That's all we were missing :(

Oh back to the whole FF15/13 thing.  There is going to be another FF13 game staring lightning, this was shown at the microsoft presentation.  Sony showing FF15 was kind of another big fuck you, especially since they made people think it would be another ff13 video.

You weren't missing it, it was during the vita section when your stream cut out.

Twisting the knife:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA&noredirect=1

Already linked.

Destiny of Spirits was the F2P Rage of the Bahamut with miniatures game.

Xbox, go home.

seen just now on FB

They should have ended the conference with that. That would have been amazing.

Will our existing PS+ work on the PS4 or will we need a new account?

Existing + account will work with all consoles, 3, 4 and Vita.

They specifically said that your current PS+ will carry over, same price.

$100 GAMES?

Jigga what?

Wait what?

Look at the pricing of PS4 games on Amazon

Amazon placeholder?

Placeholder prices.

Good to know, thanks.

I just can't get enough reaction gifs

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$400, no DRM on disc-games, $5/month for multiplayer gaming with an account that carries over from the previous system and probably gives you free shit.

It may look like a goddamn brick tripping balls, but Microsoft better like that taste of Sony dick. Because they'll be eating a lot of it. Especially when they realize every XBone they sell gives Sony money for the Blu-Ray license.

How the fuck did I end up cheering for Sony?

Goddamn, this was satisfying.  I was hoping for a beatdown, but goddamn.


I hear you!  And yet.

Still waiting on microsoft's downfall.mov because that's exactly what it looks like in MS's board room right now.

I love the internet. http://www.xboxdone.com

This just goes to show you exactly how much hubris was involved with the xbox, thinking that they could dictate the market.  I'm hoping tonight was a wake up call to someone over at microsoft, but I seriously doubt lessons were learned.

To play devil's advocate, MAYBE Microsoft will have enough clout with publishers to starve the PS4 of games, due to the no-used-game policy.  Maybe, uh, the Xbox One will recover from this ultimately by just having better games.

Though fuck, I really don't want that goddamn camera in my home.  I've never felt that way about any piece of electronics, ever.

Yeah, they're probably fucked, aren't they.

The funny thing is that I actually think used games should die.  I know that'll piss off assorted people around here, but I personally like the bound-to-a-human model of digital sales.  Still... somehow Microsoft managed to make their system seem so goddamn hateful that it pissed off even someone who actually WANTS those policies to become the norm.  THAT is one hell of a marketing failure.

Sony is calling game publishers (kind of) bluff.  There is no way any big developer right now could survive on a single console.

Sony just won the first year.

Sickrubik just won this thread.

I'm willing to accept the licensed-to-a-user model for digital sales, though that's much easier to swallow with a system like Steam where I can trivially use those licensed-to-me programs on any compatible device, etc.

For actual physical media, I think the first sale doctrine should apply.


Something I'm really curious about for this generation is the economics... was Microsoft hoping to include some decent margin in xbone, or are they razor-thin or in the red again... or is ps4 (which presumably has a pretty damn similar EBOM) actually cheaper to build or is Sony willing to take a hit at launch to stick it to Microsoft.

Also, I'm really curious how much Microsoft's core demographic cares about rental, sharing, or resale -- are they going to take a big hit if they stick to their guns -- and can they, if they decide it was a mistake, back up at this point, or have they already made deals with publishers they can't go back on easily.

Interesting times. 

Has Hitler heard about this yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzFXNGAC1vQ

Hate to break it to you, but it's a Vita free-to-play turn-based RPG.

The XBone comes with the Kinect, which I think is part of the reason for the higher cost. However, PS4 has twice the amount of RAM. Of course, at the quantity both parties are purchasing it, that may be a negligible difference.

Description doesn't match the game then. Where'd that description come from?

I still don't really see much of a reason to buy either one of these things.

I'm gonna get a PS4 out of general technophilia and for the novelty factor of getting a console day 1. Kinda dumb but there you have it.

 

I'm expecting PS4 is going to end up with a handful of exclusive content that I'll enjoy (JRPGs or random quirky things), and that combined with upgrading my bluray/dvd/netflix/amazonvideo box (what the PS3 now is) will result in me owning a PS4.  Once again I don't see anything at all interesting about Microsoft's offering or titles for it.

MS announcing a Rock Band 4 with import of all my prior Rock Band stuff would get me to buy the Xbone, but that's really all I can think of at the moment.

Stop playing that awful genre.

I guess I am a Sony fanboy this time around.  Microsoft really needs to suffer some kind of punitive blowback over these ridiculous decisions they have made.

I am a tiny bit disappointed by the choice Sony is making to require Plus for online play.  But only in pricinciple, because as I have said somewhere else recently, Plus is actually a pretty nice value.  I beats the ever loving shit out of Live, that is for goddamn sure. 

Did they, on the other hand, mention anything about using Netflix and whatnot without Plus?

This will likely be it for me.  PS3's exclusives were a lot better than the 360's, and more tended to stay exclusive.  It'll probably be the same here.

From what I've been seeing elsewhere, you can use Netflix without Plus.

Yeah, it sounded like the only feature that *required* plus was online gaming -- not any of the media/network stuff like netflix or web browsing or whatnot.  I'm guessing they're not going to allow third party servers (it'd be hard to justify requiring plus for games not using Sony backend resources).

Another obvious question which I haven't seen the answer for:  Backwards compatibility for the PS4?  Anything to speak of?

Less of an issue for me than it would have been for the Bone, partially because my PS3 library is smaller...but also because I know I will still use my PS3 in some capacity.  It is still a great Blu Ray player, after all.

They changed architectures, so, I doubt it.

There's absolutely no way they could emulate the PS3 architecture on PS4 at speed.  Even more impossible than reasonably emulating PS2 on PS3 (which they basically failed at without dedicated hardware assist).

No backwards comparability.

On the plus side - confirmed no region locking either. That's a big thing for us Euros and again a big difference compared to the XBO.

Sons have gone all out with gamer friendly policies & power. Time to see whether that works in their favour or if we gamers are all talk and no action.

Maybe Microsoft is just counting on the younger gamers who are not spending their own money and got into gaming for Madden and dudebro shooters having more brand loyalty or less awareness than you guys give them credit for.

Yeah, I totally do not know anything about the dudebro gamer demographic -- what, if any, price sensitivity they have, how much loyalty they have to their franchises, how much they value rental/sharing/trade, etc.  It may well be MSFT has plenty of data on their core demographic that tells them despite the outrage, most of their players will come back for the next generation anyway.

Anecdotally, a number of folks (typically more casual console games) I know have been claiming to move from xbox360 to ps4 as a result of the info announced at E3.  I'm seeing "so which console should I buy to keep playing CoD with you guys" threads where people say "ps4", and the like.  I don't think most of these folks are xbox core demographic types though, but they are one-console-per-generation types.

Not directly, yes (would be rather hard, due to the switch from Cell to X86 anyway) but Sony already announced that they'll bring PS3 titles to the PS4 via their Game-streaming feature.

Would be interesting to see a breakdown, but I bet there are far more of us "casual" xbox owners than the "dudebro" owners.  I can imagine that perhaps the dudebros gave MS the edge last time around, but if people like us are really going to stay away from the Bone in droves, then the Bone is in deep shit.  So much deep shit that I think they will be forced to eat crow and reverse their policies, but we shall see.

I bought a day one 360 last generation without a second thought.  This time, I will not only not buy a day one, but I intend* not to buy one at all, and buy a PS4 instead.  It feels like most of you in this thread are saying something similar (or intend to buy neither console).  Almost everything I am seeing on the internet so far is looking the same.

So as of right now, what do you, the unwashed masses of F13, plan to buy, if anything?

*Things can always change.

I mean, a PS4.

The kinect camera is creepy. And maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, your average dudebro gamer is a college guy. Like, what the fuck are they going to do with a Kinect in a dorm room/shit apartment?

Up until the pricing was announced I was considering getting a PS4.

I am repulsed by what they've shown of the Xbone in pretty much every way imaginable. The pricing model, the lack of exclusives that interest me, the creepy always-on kinect bullshit, the fact that the bulk of its features won't work outside the US, the emphasis on TV & sports, etc. It just has nothing whatsoever that I'm interested in.

The PS4 was initially more appealing. It's more powerful, it has some exclusives that I might want, no region locking, less restrictive and intrusive, etc. But, £349? And PSN Plus required for online gaming? No. And I have to say, it's fucking ugly. I mean seriously. I don't really want that in my living room, it looks like shit.

So I'll be sticking with my PC attached to the TV and keeping an eye on the Steam box. If PS4 prices drop to ~£250 I'll think about it depending on what the games situation for it is by then.

PS4, no doubts about it.

And even if I weren't into Gran Turismo, or Japanese Games, I really can't see much reasons to buy an Xbox. I mea, outside of "faith" in some unannounced surprise or exclusive, does anyone can mention a single reason to buy an Xbox1 instead?

For what it's worth this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nJY7n8KaOY&feature=player_embedded) is what I was expecting from a BF4 video (and the kind of gameplay that might actually get me to buy it)

Already pre-ordered a PS4 on Amazon.  It's possible I'll decide to cancel and not get one at launch, but there's zero chance I'd pick up an xbone (instead or additional to), even if Microsoft ditched the daily-checkin, physical media restrictions, etc -- there just are zero (exclusive) titles for their platform that hold any interest for me, and I don't see that changing.  No interest in Wii-U either.

I suspect, as PS3 has had fewer compelling titles for me than PS2, PS4 will continue that trend, but signs point to some unique stuff for this generation that I'll want.  And I'm hoping they'll have improved boot time and the bluray/dvd player... which is serviceable on PS3 but clunky.

I'm not really sold on streaming service being an acceptable replacement for native game ports, but maybe they'll surprise me.  I play almost exclusively single player offline games on consoles, so not needing to worry about comcast crapping out on me is a plus.

Even my ancient PC is about as powerful as these consoles. And with the platforms being basically PC's, the games built on engines and libraries that ease porting and the developers more or less needing to widen their consumer base things looks quite good for PC gaming.

Though if Sony had followed MS it would have been a wonderful opening for a possible steam-box.

*A Wild Nintendo appears!*

*Wild Nintendo uses E3 Razzle Dazzle!*

*It's super effective!*

 :awesome_for_real:

Nothing on release - too much backlog for now. But eventually a PS4. And never for the bone. Which is a decent turnaround for me, since I have like twenty times the number of 360 games compared to PS3.

It really isn't as powerful. You cannot compare like for like when it comes to PCs and consoles. Consoles have always technically lagged behind PCs and yet deliver better results on the lower specs because of how they are built, the fixed spec and the ability to code directly to the machine.

A PC from 8 years ago wouldn't be able to play ME3 for example, but the 360 did just fine.

Sony won simply due to not shitting the bed like MS. They still failed to provide me with one game that makes buying a PS4 at launch seem like a good idea. Right now I'd be more likely to pick up a tablet to play Hex on at work than I would a new console. I mean, I'm sure I'll get a PS4 down the line at some point, but it won't be for timed exclusive indie titles, exclusives from SquareEnix, or sequels to Killzone and inFamous.

I'll be buying a PS4 eventually, but probably not at launch; I've no plans to buy an Xbone. Like many of you, I'm not excited by the PS4 launch titles shown thus far;  once it's been out for a year or so and the JRPGs start to show up stateside, I'll pick one up.

Most of the advantage consoles have is because their display goals are so low. If a PC only has to output 720p, 30fps and turns the nice image processing off it would be an interesting contest. That said buying a modern day low-end graphics card for the PC will erase much of the benefit (we can do that).

Less relevant now anyway. The larger size of the software means less hand optimisation, commodity hardware and growth of cross platform engines mean comparisons are much easier. Plus PC hardware is unified around only two graphics card vendors which are the same as those on the console. I'm pretty confident my elderly PC with a mid end video card upgrade could play XBox-one games. Though I certainly plan to have it upgraded soon.

Just stealing this joke: The Xbone is going to be this generation's WiiU!

So the Wii U will be this gen's Sony?

Nah, the WiiU will probably just stay shitty. Because it's shit.

PS4 controllers for $60   :ye_gods:

So no cvhange to curent gen then. Over here PS3, WiiU and 360 controllers still cost that

They look different, though...what's that about?  Looks like that section toward the top pops out or opens up.  I am not arguing to justify their price, I just want to know what is actually different.  It is getting a little annoying with all of these consoles that you have to rebuy controllers every goddamn time.

Another thing I thought of.  We have a Vita in the house, so I am genuinely curious to see if they will actually pull off some good integration.  Are they aiming for something like the WiiU controller?  Sounds at least like you will be able to use it as a second screen, and also be able to play PS4 games over WiFi...isn't that like WiiU?  I think they made similar promises for the PS3, so I am not exactly holding my breath.

PS3 controllers are $55 in the US; a 5 dollar price bump isn't a huge deal to me.

Doesn't the new PS4 controller have a touchpad portion?

I can continue to not buy X-boxes making this a 3-gen running streak.  Yea!

I'll ignore the PS4 until I can get a nice used one for a steal. 

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Experience has shown me that parents buy their kids Nintendo or handheld if they're young enough to not have an opinion.  When their kids know more than enough to have an opinion they'll go with what their friends get so they can trade games.  This puts the Xbox out of the running entirely.

Games selling/ trade-ins is a very big deal for the 13-17 year-old crowd.  My nephews and their friends were not happy about the Xbone 'no trades' set-up when I spoke with them a few weeks ago, and these are not "gamer" kids.  Their dad is far too in to sports for that (and thus, so are they) so they are only allowed to game 1-2 hours a day every few days when school's in between practices, games and doing chores.

I guess Nintendo's thing is going on right now?

But who cares. It's Nintendo.

Nintendo just needs to shut up and make 3 games a year for the other consoles.

Nintendo also captures some of the Apple market. I remember our resident Macaddict driving around several towns looking for one the holiday season it released. I think they used it for a month.

I've got a jones for playing console football, but it hasn't been strong enough to buy a console yet. Neither was the RDR exclusivity (dammit). The timing is bad for the football jones, releasing at the end of the season means I'll wait until next year to buy it, by which time the GTA should be announced for the PC (or be out).

I mentioned this in the Rocksmith threaad, but if the PS4 can cut Rocksmith latency vs the PC, I might grab one just for that.

I have no interest in the creepy camera fascist console.

Nintendo literally should've launched the WiiU next year I guess.

So yeah, typical Nintendo E3. First party awesomeness with a pinch of third party "just because".  :why_so_serious:

It's alright though.  Hex and all that jazz.  Maybe the third parties will give the Wii U another look now that the Xbone shit the bed.

Side note: Mega Man vs Samus :heart:

I definitely see no scenario where I will ever want an XBone. If I buy one, it'll be the PS4 and it won't be at launch. For the "less than $5/month" (which let's face it probably means $4.99), the PS+ membership so totally owns the face of XBox Live it's not even funny. A free game per month, online mutliplayer (which shouldn't cost but I understand it), PS3 backwards compatibility with whatever their Galkai Cloud Gaming thing is - if I decide I want the mutliplayer, and since both consoles require a paid membership for such, the + option is SO MUCH BETTER than Live Gold.

Had Microsoft walked out on the stage and said, "This is the One. It will literally rape your children," they could not have failed greater than they did with the presentation they made. Sony didn't even have to TRY.

I guess rounded corners are passe now?

Well, it's not like it helped the super-slim PS3's design; it made it look like a George Foreman grill.

I don't get Nintendo's strategy at all.

They neither support third party developers nor indie developers.

Third parties would need something on par with PS3/Xbox 360 or PS4/Xbone to justify targetting a Nintendo device since the cost of development for a real port will probably not be recouped fully to justify it if they targeted the less powerful Wii or WiiU while versions for the other platforms basically fall out with the flip of a switch and minimal effort.

Indie devs don't really have access to the Wii or WiiU in the same way they have on iOS/Android or PS3/4/Vita.

So you get a WiiU that has neither 3rd party titles nor indie titles and even worse doesn't have any 1st party titles either so far. How they would like to sell a console that doesn't have any games is something I don't really get. Eeven if they announce a Mario/Zelda/Metroid trifecta today it will be six months to a year until those titles launch, so what's the point Nintendo?

The same with the DS. Ok it still has a certain image as a gaming devive for kids and the curation of games and the store means that parent's can comfortably buy a DS for their kids and don't need to fear that they will get hit on by predators over the internet or have access to violent or inappropriate games.

This too will pass though since phones/tablets already outsell the DS and are a potentially larger market for game devs.

Was the Wii basically the last hurrah of Nintendo?

The stuff Nintendo showed will no doubt be good but they desperately need a new Metroid Prime, Eternal Darkness sequel or something in that vein. Even something like Galaxy that put a new spin on an old formula. Or new IP that is more "mature."

It's hard to get excited about stuff like a Wii U 3D Land, even though 3D Land is an awesome game. Almost every game they showed was worth owning, but not necessarily exciting. It didn't help that the fucking stream paused every 3 seconds and at one point skipped ahead about 4 minutes for me.

X looked awesome though.


Developing for WiiU is cake.

Actually, a free game and maybe one or two more just for the heck of it.  Oh, and here is a weird little indie game.  And a Vita game.

That is what i have seen so far.  It has already paid for itself a couple times over after only three months.

Yeah, X is the only thing making me happy I bought a Wii U (I know, I know). I consider first-party titles an added bonus (I will legitimately play and love Wii U 3D Land, the 3DS version is phenomenal).

Good thing I'll have all these other friends who own Wii Us to play online woh wait

I want to play basically everything they showed. Even Mario Kart, which I had kinda lost interest in, thanks to the F-Zero vibes with the track design. But there wasn't anything to get super excited about. Although that was the story of all the conferences really. Everything is either very familiar or a $15 indie title.

The Wind Waker HD remake looked gorgeous and I'm excited about the new DKC. DKCR would have been a great game without the waggle controls.

They rereleased DKCR for the 3DS a month ago if you were unaware.  waggle controls removed as well.

Yes. Rounded corners mean you're trying to emulate Apple.  We're seeing a trend towards simple geometrics, muted colors and matte finishes now.

It's so hard to care about yet another Mario though.

I... really don't want to think about that.

I imagine the response to Kinect has scared MS somewhat but man I can't wait for MS to develop the balls to just start taking random pictures when its on for market research; then use facial recognition technology or something to blur out faces so it REALLY isn't invading your privacy guys!

I see this guy every year handing out Mario-themed baked good "narcotics".

He's the worst.