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First trailer here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tDxDEjDMreA)

Loved Pitch Black and even liked Chronicles of Riddick, but I'm glad that this is closer to the former than the latter.  Looks pretty good imo.

OHMANOHMANOHMANOHMANOHMANOHMAN

Yeah.  Yeah, why not.

Wait, didn't he become High Emperor of the Necromongers or something at the end of the last movie (btw spoilers)?  Why is he stranded on some bumfuck planet with monsters again?  Why do I care?

My guess he ran away or tried to disband the Necromongers and is now being hunted for it.  One of the guys that's hunting him in the trailer has Necromonger armor on.

You don't care.  They've remade Pitch Black and since it's a reboot you don't care.  YOU DON'T CARE.

None of the above may be true, but I don't care either.

Also, Starbuck.  And someone else who looks even more attractive.  So there's that.

Starbuck looks like a man. I don't see the appeal with her.

Oh yes, please.  Something about Vin Diesel's voice as Riddick is just awesome, IMO.  And Ironwood's right, it's just Pitch Black rebooted, but who cares!

She's a feisty female.  I can see the attraction even if she was plain which she's not, same for Ripley, more interesting character than some girly type who needs to be saved all the time.

Feisty?

Really?

Also, people were sexually attracted to Ripley? Am I missing a joke here? I've heard this before, mind you, but I've always shrugged it off and laughed internally. Now I'm just flat out asking wtf.

Yes

Sigourney Weaver is lovely and quite sexy.  Ripley is just Sigourney Weaver.  If you don't like, you don't like, but don't be that guy.

Looks almost like a remake of Pitch Black.  Not that that's necessarily a bad thing.

Yeah, I don't know what to say, I'm equally confused how anyone could not find Ripley attractive.  It's a strong character who doesn't take any shit played by Sigourney Weaver.

She was kind of hot walking around in her underwear in the first one :awesome_for_real:

Yep, I'm down.

I thought Pitch Black was better than Chronicles, but I liked a lot of what Chronicles was doing, or tried to do, and I was exited about the implications at the end.  (King Conan shot ftw!)  So I'm excited to see more Riddick, but a little disappointed that it seems they drop the Necromonger arc almost completely, some random dude wearing the armor notwithstanding.  Granted, it is completely within Riddick's character to become all-powerful ruler of an undead-ish army, and immediately go, 'Fuck you guys, fuck this throne, fuck this place, I'm out.  Paece.' *mic drop*

My feelings, in short:

Allow me to be very specific:

Starbuck is a strict downgrade in the "hot girl" department from Radha Mitchell, Alexa Davalos, and Thandie Newton. and Judi Dench.

Hey man count your blessings it could have easily been Michelle Rodriguez

RIDDICK: THE ANIMAL SIDE

Now I'm picturing movies like this if they totally botched casting the female.  What if, like, Carey Mulligan was in it. (I mean that would make me like it more but I've got a pretty obvious type, soooooo)

Or like, Batman with Maggie Gyllenhaal.

Wait.

She also has this unfortunate condition known as 'looks vaguely like the gravity around her is like 3x everyone else'

Unf.  Pitch Black / Chronicles are some of my favorite shit.  I'm glad to see it's back. 

And here I thought I was the only one who is completely repulsed by her. Everyone I chatted with about Batman seemed to be gaga over her. Good to know.

And what is wrong with Rodriguez other than terrible acting? I find her tomboyish-ness kinda hot.

Well I personally don't find 'bad-ass girl' trope attractive, but mostly I was mocking how she's always in action movies as the plucky female (see: L.A., Battle)

She almost ruined Fast and the Furious. Every single one she was in.

I don't.  She's a little too manly for me, particularly in the later movies.  Then again, I just watched Resurrection the other night and that may have put me off.

But she's in the new one, which can't not be awesome because it has the Rock and Vin Diesel in it.  A paradox.

I think Michelle Rodriguez is hot, although she does remind me of an ex from high school.  I never thought Katee Sackhoff was anything too special.. but I'd still do her over Maggie Gyllenhall and Thandie Newton.

Katie Sackhoff is the only one in your list that is okay. 

I was trying, after rereading, trying poorly, to get across the point that attraction is such a subjective thing that I don't personally see any point to discussing it.  But yeah, I was more talking about Alien.

Indeed.

If anyone thinks it really matters, please post a pic of your significant other so I can call her butt ugly.   :why_so_serious:

Lets get back to what's important - mostly how fucking awesome and terrible this movie is going to be.

Bonus Throne Picture from Chronicles

I'll have to rewatch the first two movies, I can't remember much except I liked pitch black more than the 2nd.  Is it fair to say Riddick is just Conan in space or is there more to it?

You guys haven't frequented the NSFW T and A thread, have you?   :why_so_serious:

I wouldn't say there's "more" to it, but it's not quite that.  Conan's more of the hero of his story, whereas things tend to happen AROUND Riddick and he just sort of kills anything that inconveniences him.

See, Pitch Black and Chronicles had pretty much fuck all to do with each other.  That's the strange thing.  Pitch Black was a stand alone story that wasn't even really about Riddick (he just turned out to be the best thing about it) and then they spun off some very, very weird shit around him.

PB is the better film for sure though and it also has Claudia in it.  Oh yes.  Not Inconsiderably so.

He does at time seem to have important moral decisions and he seems to make the right choices.  It's like a "good guy inside a rapist" teaser.

I totally forgot Claudia was in PB.  I need to watch that again.  Claudia does strange things to me.

Don't forget to watch the anime series too.

Except the other characters don't look remotely as interesting as the ones from Pitch Black.
I'll watch it, but I don't think it's going to be as 'fresh' as Pitch Black was when it came out.

I rewatched the first two movies, I remember the first as good but I enjoyed the 2nd one too, so I'm looking forward to the new one.

I have serious Boneitis for all the ladies mentioned except for Maggie Gyllenhall.  She did have a couple of sexy scenes in The Secretary though.

Count me in the Riddick fan club.  The Conan comparison is fairly decent.  The first movie was 'The Hobbit' and the second was all three LOTR books combined.  Plus, Dame Judi Dench slumming for a paycheck.  Or maybe paycheque.

Good to see Starbuck get work.  She cleans up real good.

I'm down.  Enjoyed the first two.

PB was probably the better movie, but I still ended up really liking the second movie for the crazy lore/setting.  Its probably the closest we're ever going to get of live action Warhammer 40K for the foreseeable future.

International Riddick Trailer. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDPB2wUpff0)

Man this looks good.

Maybe those bounty hunters should have packed night vision gear on their starship.  :awesome_for_real:

Honestly, who STILL fucks with Riddick?

I guess not many people who fuck with Riddick survive to warn others not to do it?

Although it had some goofy shit in it, Chronicles is one of those movies I appreciate because it actually has some cool sci-fi/space opera stuff in it that doesn't make it into films all that much these days. Not all that interested in another Pitch Black (although I liked that too on its own terms, plus Claudia!) as that is mostly just action/horror tropes.

I feel deeply depressed that this thread has already reached 2 pages. Pitch Black was a nice little throw-away scifi actioner with a vaguely interesting anti-hero lead, but it was what it was and required nothing more.

Chronicles of Riddick proved beyond a doubt that Pitch Black was where it should have stopped. Literally one of the worst movies I've ever had to pay money to see, ranked alongside AvP and the first Dungeons & Dragons movie (I couldn't say anything about the sequels to those films as I simply wouldn't give those bottom feeders responsible any more encouragement). I understand the concept of a vanity project but why pick one that makes you look so fucking bad?

Some people just don't like fun...

Seriously. 

*Looks at the Star Trek thread*  :grin:

The key difference is Riddick isn't switching genres on an existing beloved IP.

 :uhrr:

I can't ever take f13 seriously when it comes to anything even remotely related to movies, books or music. However, this place is still my go to for rock solid gaming information/opinions, political conversation, and useless discussion. Oh yeah can't forget current events.  Movie reviews...from here...foooooget aboutit.


To stay on topic, this movie looks awesome, and yes I will enjoy Riddick killing shit without nerdfucking the movie to death because it isn't realistic enough.

WUA got banned because of the Battleship movie, that cracks me up every time I think of it.

Oh man, I went back to read that thread, he ramped up pretty quick into a froth.

I'm with Mattemeo; Pitch Black was good while Chronicles was shitty and we didn't need any more Riddick. I don't really like Vin much as an actor though, so I'm biased.

I kind of agree.  Pitch Black was fun for kind of being a small movie with a forced setting operating in very limited constraints.  But it never needed a sequel.  The natural inclination of sequels is to go bigger and louder, which is exactly the opposite of what made Pitch Black entertaining.

I kind of agree, with the caveat that it was a bad movie and most of the cool stuff didn't work.

But I do appreciate that it was not an established IP and had a pretty unique and ambitious vision. There is a good movie buried in there somewhere, it just didn't emerge due to execution issues.

My girlfriend loves chronicles, to me it was a joyless riff on star wars the empire strikes back.

I helped.  It was fun. 

Yea, but this is about Pitch Black/Chronicles, not XXX.

I like Pitch Black well enough, will watch Chronicles if it comes on, and at least one of the AvP movies (the first one, I think) is also entertaining.

Yeah... let's cut him loose. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1Dm9zRogpE)

(http://i46.tinypic.com/vy5oc2.jpg)

That looks awesome, and I give no fucks about the opinions of haters.

"Yeaaa.... let's cut him loose".

Frakkin'* awesome!

But, dumb question: wasn't he like the guy in charge at the end of the last movie?

* couldn't resist

Yeaaaaaaah

I'm down. And yes, fuck the haters. That just looks cool.

Darniaq, none of the Riddick stuff has really been in any MEANINGFUL order. Mostly due to both the video games being considered canon. As such "time" or rather, "chronology" of the movies and what's happening almost doesn't matter.

This is still somewhere after Chronicles of Riddick, since Karl Urban is back playing the necromonger dude again.  I'm not sure how any of that fits in, but I'm sure it'll either be explained, or no one will bother to give any fucks either way, since that's not the point.

Ah ok. So more standalone affairs than some strict arc. That's fine with me since they're exactly the kind of movie I like.

That flying motorcycle stuff had a stinky whiff of Judge Dredd in it. 

Well he also does the Superman seat grab in XXX.

It's kind of like Chapters of the Riddick story from a period of his life. Vin apparently has a handful of things written for the character and he basically fleshes out whatever he likes the most. While they're not exactly high art, every Riddick movie has made it's money back and then gone on to make gangbusters on DVD/Blu-Ray - so he kind of has carte blanche to pump out these movies should he want to. (yes, even chronicles made its money back in worldwide release)

In the movie business if you turn out winner after winner, monetarily speaking, you get to do pretty much what ever you want.

Is it wrong to have a man crush on Vin?

If it's wrong, I don't want to be right.

Don't worry, I'm sure he'll still respect you in the morning.

Vin Diesel had to take a huge pay cut to make Riddick.  I saw an interview where he was talking about how he used Fast and Furious 6 to make up for the lack of paycheck.

Well, Diesel's huge pay cut still results in millions of dollars. Also, from the beginning he said the Riddick stuff was a labor of love. He's basically just larping in them. (the only acceptable larping ever)

I like Riddick because he's such an over the top bad ass, but Diesel somehow makes it work.

Sigged.

Riddick for what it is, is great.  It's an 80's sci-fi/action movie and chronicles is still watchable when it comes on tv. 

Shhh, don't try to explain it.  Just feel it.  Let it flow through you. 

So Vin had to leverage his house to get the money to make Riddick. (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/vin-diesel-risked-all-riddick-617586)

Shit I hope he didn't leverage my house too.

I grabbed the Blu Ray 3-pack they just put out for $5 after my $10 gift card I had. It had the unrated versions of both Pitch Black and Chronicles of Riddick and I watched both. I didn't notice a difference in Pitch Black really but Chronicles? That's a totally different movie. I remember being 'meh' about it when I saw it in the Theaters and later on cable but the 'director's cut' changed my entire view of that film. You really see the mythology they were going for and realize that the cut we got in the theaters truly was butchered.

I am now going to see this next movie on Friday if I can pull it off!

Yeah the director's cut adds some Furyan back story to Chronicles.  It really makes it better.

Signed.

PB was awesome and the director's cut of Chronicles was good value.

I still think his best film was Iron Giant though

I always liked Chronicles even with its issues. It reminded me of some reason of the game Emperor of the Fading Suns, which I always loved even though it was broken in so many ways.

The version of Chronicles currently on cable is not the theatrical cut, apparently it's not the Director's Cut from the blu-ray either but something in between, mostly a few seconds added here and there that helps tie the plot together a little better (the Purifier's actions when he meets Riddick aren't quite so random, for example).

Going to watch the blu-ray version sometime soon, see how it compares.

--Dave

Yup he is still getting a big payday and doing something he wants to do for fun so its win win.

I like the way Diesel seems to really care about the stuff he makes, even though it is pop, and not be content with just shoveling out nonsensical crap as long as it makes money (unlike say JJ Abrams).. He has pride in his work. Even Fast & Furious where he has taken over producing, he is trying to close plotholes and create some continuity that makes sense.

I always believe it's because he's such a gigantic nerd.  I'd like to think he'd fit in with this crowd in terms of bitching about details.

Um, is this good ?

Not really. It's a much slower paced Pitch Black with some cringe inducing dialog in parts. Plus Riddick is apparently now so awesome he can turn lesbians straight which I'm sure isn't offensive to the gay community at all.

I havent seen the whole thing yet (going in for a staff screening in about an hour), but I did catch parts of it yesterday night at our early public showing.  Was it ever outright stated she was a lesbian?  She came off more to me as just a tough chick who just wasnt into "guys" given that the average guy in riddick land seemed to be a mongoloid douche.

If I'm not mistaken, her exact words were "I don't fuck guys".

Saw it.  This was basically sci-fi Rambo+pitch black; or came close to it.    I liked the movie, but didn't love it, nor was it better then the 1st two.  Sackhoff was also too much of a distraction, in a good way though I guess.
Definitely felt like Diesel is setting up for an ongoing thing here; unlike Chronicles which in production was only slated as a one-shot thing.

I can give it a pass with the assumption that there will be more as on its own the movie doesn't stand up.

Kramer did it first.

Saw it quoted in a review: "I don't fuck guys, I fuck them up."

The character just doesn't work anymore. There's none of the mystery about him that made his character at least somewhat interesting in Pitch Black, so they seem to keep trying to push what a badass he is, while at the same time reminding us that deep down he's really a nice guy who rescues puppies and defends children. Riddick himself says near the beginning of the movie that somewhere along the line he lost his edge, and that's sadly appearent throughout the movie because they're trying so damn hard to convince us otherwise.

Plus, doesn't Vin have one too many chins for this sort of thing, these days?

He is no longer diesel.

Vin Unleaded

I watched this last night; it's a fun film, and I think it's better than Chronicles. It's nowhere near as good as Pitch Black, but then it was never going to recapture that feeling. As a film about Riddick, the man in all his psychotic, anti-hero glory it does a good job I think.

That said, I felt sorry for Katee Sackhoff who gets arguably some of the worst dialogue of any character in any film ever. This film would have been better off if it had zero female characters; there's no need to put a token one in, it's not like it's going to convince anyone that the film somehow offers a sympathetic and meaningful portrayal of women.

So much this.  Every single thing about her character was a cliche, with several of the cliches contradicting themselves.  There was no actual character there.  No disrespect to her as an actress, as it wasn't anything she did that was the problem, it was just a horribly, horribly written role.