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SQUEEE!

Teaser Trailer (http://youtu.be/ax5lfDVjF3w)

Fake Edit:  For clarification.  SQUEEE!

Looks like an August 23 release.  The trailer makes me think this may be the last installment though, which makes me kinda sad.

I have a feeling that they'll reboot the franchise after this - where do you go once you've gone from a just jumped-in scrub in Stillwater to being the President fighting aliens with superpowers?  I can't imagine them axing it completely, since Deep Silver just bought the IP and Volition (though admittedly at a fire sale price).  A reboot may not be a bad thing, though - my favorite is still 2 (pity about the PC port of that one).

I came.

 :drill:


Well, you have to keep getting crazier. So instead of giant dildo-bats or midgets in hotdog suits, you combine them into some sort of midget-hotdog-'sicle :-o Though, I could see a reboot going on, sure. Maybe a series (fair warning, the following are awful ideas and would be even more awful if not for being in the context of SR) from another perspective starting with the 1st, like either leading one of the other gangs in an alternate story or having to be one of the lackies in any of the gangs (which would be especially cool if it could import save game decisions from the 3rd one to determine how big of a dick the boss is in the new perspective). Or fuck, the lost chapters of Johnny Gat who was saved by the aliens of SR4 during the plane crash in SR3 .

Yeah, I did prefer 2 over 3, but only played on PC. Sure it had a little consolitis, but it was much better than some other games while also being entertaining as fuck. Sad part is there's no SR1 for PC, so I missed that one entirely.

Yah, looks good.   My only hope is that we have three different gangs to fight in this one, instead of three different gangs allied against us.  I've only played SR3, but have heard that's the way it was in SR2.   Hopefully they bring that back.  I was convinced that they wouldn't bring this out unless Volition showed them a near finished product or a product that they thought would sell well.   In other words, I thought that they were just going in for the talent that worked for Volition.   Glad to see it, whatever the case.

SR3 gave me a solid 50 something hours of enjoyment. If this is in the same vein I'm in.

Happy tears.

I am more excited about this than today's announcement of the next Civ5 expansion. (And I've been playing Civ for... holy CRAP, 20 years.? Fuck, I'm old...)

More crack, more Crackdown. WIN.

Incredibly excited about this. Infamous and Saint's Row The Third are the only two open-world-ish style games I've ever beaten, and I'm hoping I get bits of Infamous sprinkled in there with the superpowers.

"According to the official Facebook page for the title, the head of the Saints has been elected President of the United States, leading the charge against an alien force in a struggle to save humanity. Players will "wield gargantuan superpowers" and have an "arsenal of alien weaponry and technology" at their disposal, as well as the ability to leap buildings, outrun enemies and use telekinesis."

I expect lots of ridiculously unbalanced powers, added just because they are or look cool. And that's a good thing, for this type of game.

New trailer:  'Meet the President' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK2mCUyf5sY).  New melee attacks and some alien designs.

I love Saint's Row III.  The game is still installed and I go back for murder time, fun time!

When I first saw this, it was like someone had bugged my apartment.

I loved getting to run around and fireball things in the Saint's Flow enhanced part of 3.
I said that if I could do that for the entire game then I would enjoy it more than making cars dance. (For any of you who have no idea what I mean, check out the parking job of my screenshot on steam "Like a glove". Yes, that car is still and stable)

I'm right there with all of you.

The only things I could think of that would make another game tie in work so well is if the reboot started you out as one of the people that made The Syndicate big enough in another part of the world that they thought they could walk in and buy out most of the city in 3.

I've got one from Just Cause 2 where I somehow parked on someone's balcony.

Biotic Renegade President Shepard don't give a shit. He does what he wants.  :drill:

I actually said this in my head using a lisp.  :awesome_for_real:

Nice  :drill:

This sort of thing is a friendly competition among my friends.
That and seeing who can flip each others cars in borderlands.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=6547322

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/05/09/7-minutes-of-saints-row-iv-gameplay

Shows off some guns, activities and some of the superhero stuff.

Makes the superhero-y stuff in Crackdown look tame.

This game could probably be subtitled "There are no bad ideas"... I would love to see the list of things too ridiculous that didn't make the cut from the brainstorming session.

That list should be "None."

Dub step gun is my favorite part of that video. So much laughter inspiring awesome.

WANT!

Me too.  Even if there's no more purple dildo.  I love this game.  More than likely, I'll get it for the xBox, though.  I've been looking at computers... it's really hard for me to game on this laptop... and what's with Steam being pre-installed on some of them?  Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

I don't think I could play these types of games on controllers though. 

The steam thing really depends on if the computer can play those games (graphics wise usually).  Because steam is a pretty good distributor of impulse buys. 

I do have it from Steam for the PC, too, if it's awkward with the xBox.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQTt6bUZrSU

Fuck yeah.  :awesome_for_real:

YEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!  :drill:

Yep, this will be wild.

And I hope with this so over the top it reboots with V to be another start from nothing nobody gang type thing.

Or it goes bananas and is a sci fi super hero Saints take over the galaxy and you're the Galactic Emperor and rips off sci fi tropes.

Keith David as ...  :awesome_for_real:

Benjamin Motherfucking King

They could not have picked a better actor for Keith David, bravo.

Should have gone with Kevin Michael Richardson instead, IMO.

Have you ever seen Keith David in real life? He used to live in my neighborhood.

Three words. Green. Velour. Tracksuit.

If I could pull off that look I'd wear it to work.

I watched that trailer twice. The second time I watched it, I had the thought that the one thing that would really put this game completely over the top would be if H. Jon Benjamin did one of the main character voice options.

And if you could use Doc Hammer's Doctor Girlfriend voice as one of the female options.

Keith David AS Keith David?  Day 1 purchase.   :heart: :heart: :heart:

I preordered already. It was 10% off on steam preorders with some bonus items.

Also, if Saint's Row is releasing through Steam with pre-order packages...what the fuck, GTA? I want to like you but instead I'm buying Saint's Row because I can't buy GTA for the PC until maybe you decide to maybe announce it might come out in a year (for full price).

edit: not a huge complaint because I'd buy both because I love them both, but grr

Also, calling it now: There will be Gargoyles and Navy ad references.

"Accelerate your life, in the motherfucking Navy!"   :drill:

I can't get over

"That's not a plan, that's a goal!"

Saint's Row the third with a crapload of dlc is the weekend sale on steam for $11.24.  Could anyone tell me if it just plays in steam or if there is some extra, annoying thing I have to join/use like that horrible gfwl or uplay?

Only Steam required. There is an optional thing if you want to use someone else's created avatar then you can to sign up at the Saint's Row forums/community

You don't even need all the DLC. The 3 expansion DLC's (Clones, Gangstas in Space and Genki Bowl) are all good, though Clones is the weakest and Genki is non-story related. Most of the costumes I skipped.

But you gotta have space bitches.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=75548418

The Nyte Blade pack is worth it for the outfits.

For a $2.50 difference, it's worth just buying the complete edition. No, not all DLC is good but it's better than buying the normal edition and the good DLC separately.

Saints Row IV - E3 2013: First-Look Demo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9oYS_kbAmQ

No Zombies!  This game gets better and better!

So they mentioned SR4 having romance in Saint's Row style - queue the dildo bat from SR3. :why_so_serious:

Hot Coffee, anyone?  :oh_i_see:

No zombies?  What?

Aliens.   :awesome_for_real:

No zombies yet.   :awesome_for_real:

Zombie aliens.  :awesome_for_real:

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Zombie aliens work.  Actually, really really well!  And it even looks like lots of penises happening.  Hopefully not zombie penises.  Bleh.

Gameplay walkthrough.  Yes with Stuttering Sess, but fuck you, I like the bald whacko.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYOTFCJnhgA&list=PLWnpHOQXsPDvkhaVsuEydVguE37dVzYnN&index=4

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Look at the titles of the bills.... :drill:

Total win.  :awesome_for_real:

That picture just might be enough to make actually preorder the game  :why_so_serious:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-06-26-saints-row-4-banned-in-australia-for-including-alien-anal-probe

Saints Row 4 banned in Australia for including alien anal probe


There are no bad ideas...

Preordered!

Geez, Australia, loosen up!

That shit is hilarious.  Live on an island which seems to only exist to harbor creatures to horribly kill humans.  Can't handle fictitious anal probe.

Eh, if you're going to ban a game for something, rapey weapons isn't really the worst place to start.

If you ban a game, you've already lost.

Can we ban any games with swords?  With their ability to shove through any part of the human body at will and all.  That's pretty rapey.   :why_so_serious:

Can't emphasize this enough.

While I think it's silly for them to ban the game given how tongue-in-cheek it is, that statement is still pretty disingenuous.

FTFY.  :why_so_serious:

The sad fact is that we were cheering here a few months ago, since the first time ever, we had a R 18+ rating for games - which we haven't had previously.  So in theory games which include anal rape guns should be able to at least be classified as 18+, instead of completely banned.

Oh no, banned anyway.  Oh well, may as well book my ticket to piratebay in advance...

Your country confuses me on what it considers improper, what with being surrounded by unholy death on all sides.

I agree with this. I'm not really going to stand on the side of sexualised violence.

Also mentioned in the refusal to classify the game was the inclusion of drug use that gave the player benefits. This also hit State of Decay, which was refused classification on the same grounds.

I expect a tweaked version will be released for official sale, with those things removed. Or at least that was the initial report.

I find it ironic that a prison colony frowns on anal probing.

Yeah, while we now have an R18+ rating they've just moved the extreme end of the M15+ rating over to the new category and called it a day. Depictions of "drug use related to incentives or rewards" and sexual violence not justified by context in interactive media are still verboten and are refused classification. Its still legal to own the game, its just not legal to sell or advertise it in Australia.

The publisher has confirmed they'll tweak it for release;

Release the game without anal probe weapon/make it a free DLC/fuck Australia.

That's just begging for the insertion (sorry) of some anti-Oz humor in that version.

Shh, they're butthurt about it.
Here's an apology cake to Down Under.

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Wowsers.  This thread went down the wrong path quickly.   :ye_gods:

I hate when that happens! :drillf:

I'm so sorry, unless we're ok with the thread now... :oh_i_see:

Appropriate.

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Those poor aliens...

FUckin A. 

Yeah, but he can't even drive a stick.   :drill:

The fuck you say?

Ban any game with fistings involved.  :grin:

Any other game franchise, we'd be all 'Fucking clowns can't even keep their lore correct without retconning everything.

But because its Saints Row, hell, they can do it!   :why_so_serious:

As the one-time lore-master of the Asheron's Call and Mass Effect franchises, I say, "Fuck it, let's roll."

Did you actually see his dead body in SR3? I think not :awesome_for_real:

I've always assumed he wasn't dead given that we never saw him "die."

Considering that the story is basically "The Matrix, Saints' style", it's probably just virtual Gat.

So what exactly was in that coffin in the hearse?  :oh_i_see:

Nope, just hung out with his zombie and had Scott Phillips confirm that Gat is dead. For SR4 I simply believed that being the President allowed the protagonist (along with help from The Mayor, Burt fucking Reynolds) to provide more funding to cure the cause for zombies :why_so_serious:

Probably a weapons stash.

Zombie + Gat Clone + Ms. President = Welcome Back.

Gat's too much of a badass to stay dead.

Saint's Row V:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu5k7HfrYSQ

Well, for the record I do dare them to make something even more ridiculous than SR4.

They've stated that they're probably going to either reboot after 4 or focus on a new gang.

This. The same way you get super powers.

Dear Deep Silver,

I can't help but notice that you now have not just one, but two "collector's editions" available for 360 and PS3, containing a variety of physical goods and costing over $100. I further note that the only "special" edition available for PC is merely a different image on the box and a handful bunch of day-one DLC, for $50.

I'd just like to remind you that PC gamers tend to skew older and in a career, whereas console gamers are frequently college dudebros. One of these markets tends to have more money to blow on collector's editions.

Thanks for your attention,
Me

Hmm... maybe I'll get it for the 360 after all.  I'm playing the 360 version of SR:3 right now and it's good fun.  I don't know if it's true, but I THINK there might have been more DLC and outfits and all that for the PC.  Still there's enough.  I do like driving a lot more on the 360.  Flying?  The medium doesn't matter... I suck at it.

You know you can use a controller on the pc :)

Specifically, you can unplug your 360 controller and plug it right into your PC. Should work right off assuming Windows 7/8

Hell, even XP will support it.

I'm playing SR3 on the PC using a controller.  Something felt off about using it with a mouse and keyboard, especially with vehicles.

I know, I know.  Just trying to justify to myself.  I still don't have a desktop computer and I absolutely need more than 14 inches of screen.  Also, because someone said there's more DLC for the 360.  I might be talking crap.  Dunno. 

As a dedicated kbm user, I agree about the controls for vehicles. The week spot for keyboards is always the lack of analog to control vehicle speeds smoothly. This is the first time I've ever considered using an X360 controller.

And SR3 is the first SR game I've ever played. Have these series always been this over the top? Between ME3 Citadel, Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon and this, I haven't genuinely laughed as much in video games so am wondering what I've been missing with this series.

I know!  These games are so much fun in all sorts of different and weird ways now.  Even pervy.  Some of the unexpected things in Far Cry 3 made me laugh and forget to move.  I died a lot.

I am also very conflicted.  As a socially aware and sensitive person, I should not be looking forward to wielding my anal probe this much!

I could not play SR2 without a controller because I could not fly the planes without one.  SR3 was much better though.  Managed full completion without.  To each their own.  I've used kbm so exclusively, the controller doesn't do much for me at all.

I love my controller.  If I could navigate my entire life with my controller, I would.  I still don't get why this game doesn't have a collector's edition for the PC - not that I would buy it.  It just doesn't make much sense.  As much as I would love to have a Dub Step Gun, I can't justify the more than double price tag.  Not when my fingers and the ability to make goofy noises are free.  I'm still not sure which version I'll get - Steam or xBox - but I guess I'd better make up my mind soon! 

No. The first game was a mostly straight faced GTA:SA clone with a couple goofy bits. People liked the silly bits more than the gangster bits so they dialed it up a notch for No. 2. By the third installment they had given up on any connection with reality.

I've put 21 hours into SR3 in the last few days, and I'm kicking myself for waiting this long.  I might actually not wait for a steam sale to buy SR4.

Although I love SR3 in a lot of ways, I still feel like 2 hit a sweet spot for me; it wasn't as over the top as SR3, it had a more serious, believable story, but it still had the right level of silly and ridiculous to make it really fun.  I'm really looking forward to SR4, but I also sort of look forward to some kind of reboot that will take the series back to that sweet spot.  Also, SR3 pissed me off with Gat dying and Shaundi turning into a raging bitch, so that probably also helps my fond feelings for 2.

I think SR2 storyline is much better.  We do some dark shit.  SR3 isn't quite up to snuff on that front.  SR2 port was fucking shit.  Keep in mind I don't do console much so a port is my only avenue.  SR2 controls were fucked up.  It was so bad that, like I mentioned earlier, the plane was physically impossible (for me) to fly without a controller.  I remember trying to remap keys but failed.  SR3 port, on the other hand, was pretty much smooth as silk.  I don't think I has a single issue with any of the controls.

I still loved the characters.  Gat was cool as shit, but yeah, his "dying" pissed me off.  I liked Shaundi just as much as the earlier version, but that could have easily been a new character instead of a rebranding.  Probably mostly because of voice talent, as was the case of Gat. 

I'm a cheap fucking bastard and almost never buy things at retail price. I pre-ordered SR4 the day it went up.

I wish the SR2 port hadn't sucked so bad, the hour or so I endured (after tweaking it for at least twice that long, GotR patches etc) was pretty awesome.

I got SR2 in the humble bundle but put it in my "Probably won't play" steam category due to all I've read saying that it's a shitty port and if you don't have a 3.2Ghz cpu exactly bad things happen.

I did end up beating SR3 today.  I also beat the wierd science DLC.  The other two DLCs were pretty meh in my book and I gave up on them.  Genki's was ok but I was kind of tired of it after doing all the Genki activities for map ownership, and the first mission for Gangsta's in space was WAYYY too long, and I kept getting blown up in the chase scene for some reason and got pissed off.

The core game was definitely solid though.

I loved gangstas in space and my space bitches.

I don't know who is saying that a 3.2ghz cpu exactly is needed, but mine was not 3.2ghz when I played and I had no issues. Gangstas in Space, it did start slow but I was interested in it by the end. Genki's was okay, what made it really awesome was the Ethical Reality Climax activity



For those unaware but wanting to play SR2, GotR is Gentlemen of the Row and it is awesome. It definitely improves the controls

Shitty console port aside, SR2 was slightly better than SR3. The story was done better with some really well done darker parts (like the back and forth between the Saints and the Brotherhood). Though, I would absolutely love if SR2 was updated to the SR3 graphics and also had Genki's Super Ethical Reality Climax, Guardian Angel, Hulk Hogan, and The Mayor added to SR2 :grin:

The 3.2 Ghz comment was made a lot that the engine's timings relied on the 360's exact processor, and deviations from that caused performance issues.  I had read that GOTR mods helped in this regard (sometimes not always) but I have enough games in my backlog to not bother trying to get it to work decently.

Maybe when my backlog gets cleared.

Okay, as it was a shitty port I could kind of see that being an issue, but even before using GotR I didn't have any problems so it still seems like an oddity and not the norm.

http://www.saintsrow.com/news/detail/article/263411/inauguration_station

ooooo!

I really like that my characters from 3 are going to carry over to 4.
Simple thing but it makes me smile.

Yep. I went in all 'I'm going to make some crazy ass....ooh I can import my smooth senior!'

Am I the only one whose played the same character and had them slowly evolve with backstory and all?

Yes.  I never played Saints Row and, although I own it, I haven't played Saints Row 2 yet.  I acknowledge and admire your methodically arranged way of life.  I wish I was like that but I suck.

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Blow off, wanker!

So, kinda crappy down side to our ratings board.
From what I've heard, because we are running a modified version of the game, Australians won't be able to multi with anyone but Australians.

It's not a huge deal because I mainly play with people I know in person, but the though that I can't play with most of you if we wanted to makes me dislike the board even more.

Just move to New Zealand already.

I hear it's better than Old Zealand.

(https://a248.e.akamai.net/content.hydra.agoragames.com/20/4/7/5/3177/126189321730424035)

Feel free to not share that backstory.  :ye_gods:  :drillf:

"So this poor street urchin named....Zantyssa..."

 :awesome_for_real: you are putting way more perversion into this than I.

Thank you!

Vote for Zombie Love Fingers!

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Man, Hillary has really gotten into shape.

The women in this game have man hands.  I even tried using the manicure and gold digger hands but they just look like man hands with really long fingernails.  I hope hands will be addressed in the new game.

It's the muscle buildup.  Constant use of weapons, constant bitch smacking, constant punching, beating, grabbing, choking.  It's not man hands, it's power hands!

A third collector's edition. Still not available for PC.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/126707-Saints-Row-IV-Unveils-1-Million-Special-Preorder-Edition

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I like yours the best so far, Evildrider.  S/He'd look good with the hair rollers, too.

I wish I had a million dollars for that new collector's edition.  They can keep the Prius, though.  I want the gas gobbling Lambo because I'll be president, right?

Plus it's just virtual gas anyway!

That is a dude.. and doh, myust have missed the hair curlers that would have been better!

Ain't nothin' wrong with man hands.  :heartbreak:

But I like you so it doesn't matter.  As far as I'm concerned you have dainty, girly Truckasaurus hands and that's beautiful.  Actually, if they had girlie Zombified hands, I'd like that more.  And, to be quite honest, I have a piece of black graphite stuck in the palm of my hand where I was stabbed with a pencil by an angry nun when I was 7. 

I enjoy bonding with you.   :heart:

I have graphite in both calves. For some reason when I was a kid, jamming pencils into people's legs was a thing.

We just played Nintendo when I was a kid.

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Saints Row 4 Gets $1 Million Special Edition (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/08/10/why-not-saints-row-4-gets-1-million-special-edition/)  :why_so_serious:
I wonder if they have the lambo already bought "because it's a prize" and when they don't sell the edition they just have to keep it...

A Lamborghini and a Toyota Prius? For the man who wants to save the planet one day and just be driving in style the next one?

The Prius is so you can drive to get gas for your lambo.

Hey, it's a daily driver and a weekend car.

Reminds me of one of my favorite bits.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-november-2-2005/grand-heft-auto

Bit is at 2:14, but the whole thing is pretty funny. And the 'inflated' gas prices, hah.

I finally preordered... for the 360.  I really enjoy playing on the console and the tv with a larger screen.  I only got the normal one, not the collector edition because I couldn't justify the added expense for a gun that doesn't wub out my enemies.  The extra special collector edition is a rip off.  They only give you the run of the mill common as muck Lambo.  Even if they added in the special bits and pieces for a top of the line Gellardo, this package wouldn't be worth half that amount.  If they substituted that Lambo concept, the Egoista, I would have bought it in a heartbeat.  Yeah.   

For a million bucks I want to go to space with LORD BRITISH  :why_so_serious:

Only if I can leave his ass there.

Well you know what they say.... in space, no one can hear you scream.

Alas, we can still read your blog.

So yeah, this is coming out Tuesday. With that in mind I was going to play some SR3 and was looking around at mods on my break when I saw this. (http://idolninja.com/blog/?p=1944) I have no idea how I missed this back in June (probably due to all my squeeing at their actor choice for Keith David):


So yeah, full on mod support for SR2, SRTT, and SRIV with modders talking about recreating SR1/SR2 and putting them into SR3 or SR4, as well as new cars, guns, activities, maps, etc. 

 :drill:

Holy fuck, I'd kill for this.

Good team to collude with. Good things will come of this.

Yeah, SR1 and SR2 recreated would be insane, but (after doing some more reading I see that) according to a post from Jeff of Volition (http://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/threads/volition-update-to-srtt-modding-sdk.2830/) that wouldn't even be possible for a while as the SDK for map/levels/missions won't be ready.

In the meantime, tools for creating weapons and adjusting their stats, creating/editing characters, clothing, creating taunts (possibly with motion capture tools as well) will be coming out first. There is also a post with links to the github where the most up to date tool will be released, though they're still in alpha and in no way are they the actual SDK but just something to get started with and that post is found here (http://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/threads/something-to-keep-you-busy-until-the-sdk-can-be-released.2891/).

However, some good news is that some tools for SRIV will be available on release day which will bring SRIV's available tools up to the level that SRTT. Volition is finding a way to tag modded characters before they're allowed to be uploaded on the official SR community site as well, so that is even further support of mods and what not while trying to keep them separate from non-modders and is very cool.

This sort of shit makes me happy THQ folded and that Deep Silver/Koch now owns Volition. Still pissed I missed this previously, but damn this is awesome

Lastly, just because...

I might cry happy tears.

I'll admit, I may buy this just for my protagonist to be voiced by Nolan North.

Hehe yea that's the option I chose too.

I'm still only like 60% through SR3 but keep running into new ways for the game to make me laugh. I really like how these guys think. I'll definitely be checking out GTA Online* when it comes out, but there's soemthing about this world I like more. Probably simply because it takes itself less seriously.

* But jeez, could their most recent announcement trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olEGtoYs_8A) be any worse? I swear that voiceover was the kind of clinical marketing speak you'd normally only here in a stockholder meeting.

As usual, I'm the outlier...I'm much more excited to play the new GTA.

I definitely enjoy SR3, but I've got at least triple the hours into GTA 4...and the less said about my time /played in GTA:SA the better.

However, pre-order on steam vs pc version not even announced. Hopefully the co-op is drop-in and tied to steam friends...if so this place is about to get silly up in here.

Well to be honest, I really did enjoy the last GTA, which was also my first one. And the new one being online introduces a bunch of new possibilities that SR4 won't have, so I'll probably pick that up too :-)

FYI, pre-load was up last night. They're also selling the Season Pass, but it seemed skimpy. One weapon and two missions for $10? I wonder if it would eventually include the amount of DLC for the third game (which would be a decent deal).

Unlocked and playing it's...so....beautiful.

It's pretty, stupid, and fun.

The Walking Dead has messed with my inverted aim. Feels right while driving but then I'm upside down for shooting. Gah.

Also...looks like Steam friends are indeed integrated into co-op!

The walk when your character wakes up in the [spoiler] is lol.

Screw it, I'm waiting for the next sale to get this since they decided to delay the European release to 23rd :uhrr:

Flying bike pretty much breaks the collectathons.

As I was super running and jumping across rooftops and generally being awesome, "The touch" came on the radio and I lost my shit.

I lost mine during the story scene with the Aerosmith track.  Great sense of humor, tho I still miss the darker tone of 2.

The whole first 30mins of this has been fucking amazing. Good enough I'm not losing my shit at the UI when switching weapons, though the whole new system for garages helps make up for that a bit too

edit - Fucking Paula Abdul with a female French president voice. just wow.

Listen to the classical station, do it.

I just spent 10 minutes listening to the villain of this game reciting pride and prejudice.

I was clicking through the channels thinking this score was a bit weak...I'm with Lakov, the classical channel is amazing. Not just the prose, but great music selections, Figaro opera? Yes, please.

This is ME1 2 and 3.....done right. :why_so_serious:

And officially lost my shit. Security Deletion activity (kill # of waves of enemies) but all enemies were mascots of all sorts, and they go all Bugs Bunny on me blasting the Barber of Seville :awesome_for_real:

I lost it on the Fraud mission -- they changed the physics so you can cartwheel indefinitely given a clear path.

Hey, I'm trying to find actual confirmation one way or another on this; a friend of mine in Australia thinks that even if she imports the game or has it gifted on Steam, it'll be the Australian version and we won't be able to play together.  I see some spotty posts in my googling about importing the game, but I haven't seen anyone since release say 'yes, I got it gifted/imported it and it works correctly'.  Any of you from Australia gotten it gifted/imported and can confirm it's working in multiplayer with other normal versions of the game?

I'm waiting for others' confirmations, but I got the US/regular version of L4D2 via Steam Gift, as well as stuff that wasn't available in Oz (at the time) like Max Payne and early GTAs via gift.

Took me three tries. Fail, fail...hit super sprint by mistake and go cartwheeling down the road bouncing off cars and buildings, silver.

Speaking of co-op, Az....you know what to do if you see me on :)

Cartwheeling into other cars is the big money, hit the hoods, go up into the air (hang time awards) come down on other cars. Even Gold isn't hard in the Frauds.  I'm having fun with the Blazin' runs, but the Platform Jumping minigames can eat a dick.

I forgot to give my imported character from SR3 a shirt during creation so I ran through the whole presidential opening part shirtless...which made it even better.

I try to come down on other cars but my aim sucks.

Are most of you getting this on PC then? I would have to ditch my old character from SR3, but I might make the move to PC if only to do multiplayer.

I think most are on PC, I know I am. As for your character, just upload it to the saintsrow.com community site to your account and download it on the PC, problem solved.

For activities, yeah the fraud perma-cartwheeling trivialized it imo. However, while I normally love mayhem activities, fuck mayhem with the blackhole gun. Every other mayhem has been fine so far, just this blackhole mayhem sucks ass.

I am playing on the PC myself. And serious what the hell is with the blackhole gun mayhem that one is just a pain in the ass. Everything else is pretty easy but something about that one just blows.

It's also easier now cause you can super speed to a better spot. In SR3 if the intersection you were playing in had a "dry spell" (no cars coming through) you were screwed.

Doing a backpeddling run and gun worked for me.  Just go backwards and shoot behind you and you won't have to worry about sucking.

Super speed while receiving a hangtime bonus :grin:


You're hitting gold like that? I'm able to get about $75k short of gold forwards or backwards. Forwards allows for more targets while backwards allows for less 'oh shit I'm in a black hole' moments though for less time on the ground.

Anyone try the co-op activity yet? I'm looking to do that after getting some studies done tonight, but I have to admit that I'm surprised there hasn't been raging about keeping multiplayer out of singleplayer yet.

I think we may be forgetting we have super powers when we do this. Just thought of jumping on top of a building to blast down from above an entire block then hopping to another building to repeat.

I made the same mistake, except my toon didn't have pants.   :awesome_for_real:

For this activity, with the exception of speed, I'm guilty of this. Damn Third dimension. :facepalm:

I see why they got rid of garages, I hardly even use cars. This game defines over the top.

I used a car once.



Once. :drill:

I used them until I got unlimited sprint, which was a pain to get thanks to bosses in missions that could almost one shot me. Fortunately I have the Commander in Chief edition extra weapon which does massive damage, even though you can't see what you are shooting with it.

Game is leaving me a little cold, honestly, at least compared to SR3. Combination of Early Plot Event being pretty de-motivating and the whole not-the-real-world abstraction of the simulation making me not care about the city really, I think.

I don't really care about the city, especially since most of the new stuff is just reskins of stuff they removed. But I'm really digging the character interactions more this time. It's funnier, and I haven't seen anything really objectionable yet since we've completely dropped the whole "you are a criminal overlord" thing and just gone with.. let's say puckish rogue.

So this was fun. If a bit short, having blown through it in 18 hours (did the majority of the side quests, ~82% completion). For comparison, SR:3 clocked in around 30-35ish.

The gameplay was more fun than 3 thanks to superpowers and the dubstep gun. However I remember 3 having a better story/characterizations, or at least more fleshed out plot about why things were happening. In 4 once you finish the first hour the plot and motivation is basically just killing aliens and superpowers, with the characters just there as window dressing rather than a focus.

That said, they really did crank this one up to 15 or so. Over the top is an understatement.

BiiF: Yes. Buy it if you liked the third installment and want more.

The key with Blackhole Mayhem is to shoot the cars at medium range, sucking a few cop cars and pedestrians into each blackhole gets you to gold pretty fast.

The reconciliation between SR2 Shaundi and SR3 Shaundi was pretty hilarious to me. Breaking the fourth wall, in an odd way.

There are many aspects of IV that I find inferior to the previous installment.  Then I get Nyteblade fanfic and my disappointment evaporates.  There are some truly brilliant parts to this game.  That Classical music station is a prime example. 

If you found my review lacking, RPS hits the nail fairly squarely IMO. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/08/14/wot-i-think-saints-row-iv/#more-164056 (I found it a bit overally spoilery though.)

Just beat the game, no complaints and if they do make a sequel....god help us all.

OH BABY, YOU
YOU GOT WHAT I NEED
BUT YOU SAY HE'S JUST A FRIEND



I miss some of the staple activities of III, but this game executes.  Wow.  Buy this game.

So I got this game on Steam expecting some GTA-style gameplay (hadn't read any reviews or watched any videos or anything). Well I got the GTA gameplay and whoooolle bunch more I wasn't expecting. At all.

This game gives me flashbacks to CoH more than Saints Row 3.

Statements like this make me consider getting it.

Imagine COH and mass effect had a baby.

And that baby was armed with a Violater (Tentacle bat) and a Dubstep Gun. Awesome indeed. And that's even before you get the ability to nuke entire city blocks with Death from Above.

 :heart: :heart: :heart:

Yes, though the super jump is more awkward in SR4 cause you have to charge it. It would also be nice if you shoot your guns while in the air.

I would commit murder or a degrading sex act or two for the ability to fire weapons in the air, it drives me crazy that I have to land and wait for an animation to finish before I can start spraying infinite numbers of rockets in all directions.

I had the feeling that the super-jumping and super-speeding felt very familiar, it's exactly like CoH...

I miss that game.   :cry:

Super jump is similar but not identical. In CoH your jump height was determined by how long you held the space bar down while jumping upwards and you didn't charge it before hand.

When you get the Death From Above ability then shooting guns in the air is about as outdated as cars and garages in Saints Row. I was aching to be able to shoot in the air until I had DFA, then I forgot what my guns were for. DFA (which kills most enemies) and clean up with sprint+melee, dubstep gun, or blackhole gun for just about any fight. For fights where I was being lazy and gaining achievements with shitty weapons, I'd use TK-Vampiric/Health Drain, keep an NPC feeding me HP and go about my business.

As for charging super jump, it can be charged while you're in the air so you can super jump immediately upon landing again. It's not so bad and became almost natural after a while. Glide to a building, sprint to the roof and jump at the top or land on the roof and jump right away and glide some moree.

But yeah, CoH super powers mixed with Mass Effect parody (where the parody has better writers in general, better romances, and better characters imo :awesome_for_real:) all in a Matrix parody sums this up nicely. The only things that irritate me are the sheer number of things to collect (damn you last missing cluster and audio log), rift racing, and rift jumping. The on-foot mayhem missions annoyed me early on, but that was due to trying to get gold on it and just missing while I still found it fun at least. Rift racing just screams that it was made for console players and the jumping is just flat out annoying (coming from someone who enjoys jump puzzles even). Though, all that was worth it for the Double Dragon/Streets of Rage/Final Fight-esque and the Metal Gear missions :heart:


With Keith David and [insert surprise cameo character] as babysitters.

I'm not an achievement whore, so that stuff doesn't bug me at all. I do agree about the sprint races and jump puzzle nonsense; I'll be skipping them as well.

I was playing for a bit when the fiancee came over last night. Her summary was "You don't have to keep trying to go one more notch over the top, dear."

I had her pick my costume (the cardinal suit), and at one point I was a cardinal with a shotgun in the matrixy/tron monster truck listening to spoken word literature while running down pedestrians.

It's funny listening to the munchkin style of playing, I mostly just goof around and don't get much done.

After credits scene was so meta it broke the word meta.

So it's time to duck out of this thread if I'm not racing through the game?

No, just know that you won't be disappointed :grin:

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Dear Amazon,

I preordered Saints Row IV two and a half months ago.

You didn't ship it until two days after the release date.

It's still a day away from me.

This is why Steam is eating your lunch.

Love,
Me

Should've paid for a Prime account :awesome_for_real:

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The charge is quick and works really well so you can control how high you jump, as well as being able to be done while doing other things. You can hold spacebar the entire time if you wanted and the jump would stay charged, it really is not bad and works well.

Sure for people that have never played with SJ on CoH it works fine. There is a better way, though.

Preach it, Trippy. Preach it.

First of all console or not it's better with a controller....there, I said it.

Never said there wasn't a better way, but it's still nothing awful and it works for what is needed. No need for hat throwing, that's all

Or you could've just agreed with what I said originally.

I like the feel of the SR4 superjump slightly better than the CoH one. Since you can charge while superspeeding or in mid-air you don't lose any time for it, and this way they can have a full charge launch you into the air at much greater speed than would be feasible in the CoH control system. Not that the CoH jump wasn't fun, but the upwards movement there always felt a little like floating upwards instead of a jump.

Now you can get out your torches and pitchforks.  :grin:

I fucking loved superjump in CoX. I believe the record is well-established there. So hell yes I'm going to throw my hat when an opportunity to give me delicious awesome superjump is squandered with stupid ol' charging up!

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^This.


But I only agree that there could be a better way, not that the better way was done in CoX. What SR4 does works, and personally I like it. Holding down the jump to go higher feels more like jetpacking (or using the robot power armor's ability to float/fly) where as SR4 currently feels more like super jumping when it is charged first.


Did you really? I was unaware, do you also enjoy the sims and all things Bioware by chance? :why_so_serious:

Overall, different strokes and all that, I get people want a different mechanic. Maybe make a mod for this or try making a request over at saintsrowmods.com for CoX superjump? They could probably change this.

The hold down to jump higher is a mechanic as old as the NES and whether you like it or not, it makes fuckall sense that you can adjust your jumping height mid jump.

Unlike how sensible it is to be a gang member turned president trapped in a computer simulation run by a literature-reading alien emperor.

It also makes fuck-all sense to be able to change direction after you've left the ground on a jump, but that's part of what makes superjumping. You know. Fun.

Curly Muffin (http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/ap2/language/lexicon_C.html)

(Of platform games.) To reverse direction in mid-leap.

    Example: "The guy in Turrican curly muffins on a regular basis."
    Secret origin: Analogous to the shape described by the pastry treat.
    First used: AP32.

Even in the most ridiculous games we sometimes latch onto things that seem irrational to us. It's pretty common and everyone has some example of it.

I'd like to play this game without a gamepad, but when I try to do it the buttons flicker back and forth between gamepad icons and keys. Any clue how to set it specifically to one or the other?

Do you have a gamepad connected in any way?

No, but my keyboard, mouse, and headphones are all logitech wireless. I also have a joystick that was recently plugged in, but hasn't been since before I installed SR4.

The superjumping really is pretty lame IN COMPARISON to CoH. It's kind of a black mark for me honestly.

Also the patch last night apparently broke the shit out of the weapon cache - people are losing weapons, etc. Beware.

Steam patch today to fix weapon cache, btw.

Not done yet so not reading the whole thread. I came by only to say "the clusters man... THE CLUSTERS!". Some gotta-get-them-all bone I didn't realize I had, worse than those freakin' flags in Tomb Raider I wasn't quitting until I 100%'d it.

But this post stuck out at me because I feel the same. Saints Row IV is the best super hero game I've played. This is, in large part, because I didn't need some goddamned grind punching me in the dick for 15 hours before I got access to the one signature ability my pre-constrained class/IP dictated I was allowed to have. I'm only halfway through, but since I'm apparently a completionist (news to me), I've unlocked all the powers I can get to that point up through maxed stomp (i assume there's more). I'm way overpowered for the open world stuff, but shit if it ain't fun to tornado half the city chasing the green(yellow?) orbs that appeared because I curb stomped a base and surrounding neighborhood to max chaos/awareness/whatever-the-red means That just doens't get old.

Still don't like the insurance fraud bits, but I didn't in 3 either, so no foul there.

I am almost interested in this. I never got very far into Saint's Row 3. I dunno why. The humor just didn't scratch my itch and in the early gameplay especially I felt it was kind of pointless--that whole thing where you're in the plane talking to the Belgian crook and then you're shooting in the air while falling and all that, it felt very passive and oh-so-pleased with itself for its self-referentiality, etc. I'll try to do Saint's Row 3 again tonight and see if I enjoy it more later in the game, that's probably a clue about SRIV for me.

I found the missions super easy when I realised you only need to stay in the fraud spot once to build up your adrenaline bar, then you just sort of roll down the entire stretch of the city.

Yeah, I 100% this before I realized, the whole time bitching about that one final cluster I did not find until a long time of flying/searching. Fuck clusters. As for powers and there being more - yes, as you level up and invest in powers more will be available. Then there are others which are only earned from achievements (if needed you can lower the difficulty to earn those achievements, but even on HC they aren't too bad. Except rifts).

I will say this - do Matt Miller's missions until you gain the collectible finder, you'll be much better off getting that as early as possible as you try to collect every single cluster.

As for insurance fraud, it went from annoying to somewhat fun as you ragdoll across the city as super power speed and gain $1mil+ combos

Don't judge a book by it's set piece QTE intro.

SR4 does the same, but those are few and far between in the actual game.

This game is fun and all, but it makes me want to play GTA and have more story and less silliness. I like the silly to be in the context of a more serious story.

Thanks Segoris. I JUST got that thing last night and his helped with the headaches a lot :-)

I kind of agree with this. SR3's humor worked for me because it was silliness in a quasi-serious-enough world and having never played a SR game before I was kinda expecting a layperson GTA before GTA V. SR4 is the same humor but they tossed all seriousness in favor of a tongue-in-cheek Matrix riff. Some of it is still pretty funny, but more in the context of how they twist the SR3 gags than anything unto itself. Like if my first SR game was 4, I may not laugh as much.

Love the game, but hope SR5 doesn't push down this vector further.

NP Darniaq, now just wait until there's only 1 more cluster and audio log with only the "drive an alien craft 1356471374377 million miles :argh: (though, there's a mod to reduce that number for the achievement a bit, I'm being odd and just won't use it).


They're few and far between in SR3, but in SR4 it's a QTE with every single warden and it truly is a downer.

As for SR5, it's supposed to have a new protagonist/boss, so I'm guessing it will be toned down quite a bit. I'm hoping it's a mix of SR2/SR3, but that's a long ways away yet and I'm hoping for a GTA5 port to PC before worrying about SR5.

Is SR2 worth playing? My first was SR3, but I've heard good things about too, so wondering if maybe it's too old to go back to.

The QTEs for wardens are pretty lightweight. Just a few seconds of mashing a few keys. When that first QTE came up in 4 though, I was worried it was going to heavy hand it more. Glad to be wrong. I didn't really want any of those Witcher 2 boxing scenes or the Tomb Raider ones.

SR2 port was awful when it came out, so if you own a console, it's worth it. If you're pc only, I dunno if it ever got improved, it was so buggy/annoying I gave up.

SR2 is wonderful as a game, but for PC you need to go and download Gentleman of the Row (http://idolninja.com/sr2.php). I played SR2 on PC with GotR and it was well worth it. I'd also suggest Sandbox+ (http://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/threads/sandbox-for-saints-row-2.1115/), but GotR is the main one.

As for QTEs in SR4 - yes they're lightweight, but they're only rare if you're not off doing what was fun in previous SR games - shooting sprees with new weapons, drive-bys, etc. If you try any of that now then QTEs are often enough to be annoying and they're done so poorly in that you're stopped by a really really weak mini-boss and a shitty QTE which wipes all notoriety which took longer to build up then to finish off the warden and his QTE.  :uhrr:

The story, I think, was most solid in SR2.  It was serious with wacky elements, basically.  And I had no problems on PC...on the other hand, a friend of mine has never gotten it to work on PC.  So it's hard to tell whether you'll be able to make it work or not.  The Gentlemen of the Row modpack helped a lot.  Assuming your PC runs it well, it's better on PC because the mods really made a number of things cooler, and let you do a lot more customizing with your appearance and all.

For me the more serious it is, the less pleasant the experience in this style of game usually - or to put it in SR4's words, I prefer more puckish rogue, less actual psycopath, and SR2 seems to be tilted heavily towards the latter. I need it to be completely over the top into parody land before I can get past a lot of the stuff you actually do and just enjoy the gameplay.

I get that, and I love some wacky humor, but the downside to that is there's really no points in SR3 or 4 where a development makes someone think "holy shit I can't believe that happened" like in SR2 with the darker and more serious nature of the game. The result of the war with Maero and the Brotherhood is a good example (at the derby).

I don't like roleplaying an actual gangbanger. That's not uplifting in any sense.

I find being a psychopath way, way too depressing. I need to be able to actually like myself to get through a game, and SR2 makes sure I would not like myself even a teeny tiny bit with some of the shit it has me do in the cut scenes.

For the same reason I think I dislike the most recent GTA, crime sim is fun and all when it's silly like vice city but when you are just playing a terrible person doing bad things it really loses something.

It's easier if you're a redeemable character caught in a bad situation. Which I think is what they were going for on some of the GTA stuff. However, they failed in many of those games to get that across. GTA 4 comes to mind.

GTA4 you're someone who should be in prison for war crimes, and get worse as the game progresses. Not much fun, not even counting 'Hey cousin, let us go see some teetees!' while trying to play. I much more enjoyed SR3/4s over the top exuberance.

I actually like the seriousness better, personally.  For me, the gameplay in SR2 was fun, but the story carried the game where the bad port might otherwise have made me quit in frustration because I was highly engaged and interested in seeing what my Boss would do next.  And while the end of 4 was ridiculously awesome, I think the end of 2 was more satisfying.

Seriousness in these games only works alongside a tongue in cheek element, which is why SR3 was great.  GTA4-5 seem to be going for serious storytelling throughout but along with mowing people on sidewalks down, which makes little sense.

Diff'rent strokes.

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?

Awesome. I think I'd rather play SR2 than GTA V anyway. Like otherwise, playing a gangbanger in a kinda serious way isn't my thing. I didn't even like the airplane level in COD4  :-P

And interesting note on QTEs. I haven't run into what you're talking about. For me I generally keep my noto at zero and if it goes up, I'll have fun with the first wave or two and then chase down the CID. So basically, thus far I've only had QTEs on 6-8 Wardens. Think I'm going to need to start some sprees or something... which here it's ok because, ya know, the Matrix and stuff  :grin:

Serious question.  As a fan how do you reconcile a serious storyline with gameplay that only bears a similarity to reality.  (spray painting cars to avoid cops, killing thousands, etc etc)

Don't overthink things.

So, don't take it seriously.  :oh_i_see:

Well, it is a game.

Oh, I agree there needs to be a level of silly; things like mowing people down on the sidewalks and all that during gameplay feel incongruous if the setting tries to be too serious.  SR2 had hilarious minigames, there were jokes interspersed throughout the plot line, and you could build a ridiculous look for yourself and your gang, all of which helped make it fun.  It's just that the story itself was more engaging and satisfying to me because it felt like serious people living in a world that had a certain level of ridiculousness built in.

Well, I see what you're trying to do there. There's a difference between a serious tone and taking a game seriously.

Thus 'diff'rent strokes' comment. Some people want to pull apart every little thing and discuss Tali's heritage and sexuality or how that SHIELD agent can be alive in the tv series. That stuff doesn't bother me at all. But I'm more interested in playing a guy who is trying to distance himself from his past but continues to be confronted with it, someone who is only good at the one thing he hates...set in a GTA world where silly stuff also happens because that's fun as a game. As opposed to the Saints leader whom I have no connection to or interest in at all, it's a fun game but it's also very shallow and forgettable.

Sometimes you need a Big Smoke.

This is more thought than I've put into it. I prefer GTA over SR, though I enjoy both. Why delve into the mysteries of why? I'm more of an experiential person and don't worry about the existential.

So I've run into what I think you're talking about. Random drive bys to max noto to warden. The only thing I'm noticing in this scenario is the lack of a health meter on the warden. You mentioned mini-boss with a shitty QTE though, and I'm not sure what that is.

Harping on it because I'm curious what parts of the game I haven't seen yet :-)

Finally got to play and I'm really enjoying this.

One question though, do any of you play co-op?
My single player has been working just fine but trying to co-op is futile with how often it crashes.
Wondering if it is just a problem with the AU version or the game in general.

I had occasional issues with Steam hiccups causing the game to shit the bed, but nothing too bad.

The GAT V DLC pack is free on Stream today only.

I'm liking the game a good bit, but I think I prefer a lot of the SR3 activities over some of the new ones in the computer simulation. For example, the rifts seem especially out of place. I'm playing Mario in my SR game, and it just feels wrong.

Agreed entirely. SR4 is a good game, but almost every component of it makes me like it a little less than SR3, and the activities are a big part of that.

Any time a quest makes me do one of those mini games I hate this game just a little more.

I'm right about on the fence that I don't like this game at this point, it's removed any context for fucking around. The 'you can't have it both ways' from the GTA V thread, that's what I like about GTA and dislike about SR.

Yeah, my biggest complaint on this game is probably the fact that "side quests" are just dialogues leading you to another activity. It's bullshit which made me feel this was a large expansion to SR3.

Granted the main story was really entertaining (not good, but entertaining in its humor and throwbacks) and the loyalty missions were truly something I'd love to see more of. Hopefully the SDKs will allow modders to re-create Double Dragon or Streets Saints of Rage or something similar using Gat's loyalty mission level.

The game actually started as an expansion that got turned into a full sequel.  Personally, while I liked the game I feel it needed a bit more time in the oven.

Yeah, and the expansion/dlc which started the SR4 process is now part of the season pass and not even done yet :roll:

I'm not even sure it needed more time, it doesn't feel incomplete it just feels poorly done but like it's everything Volition wanted it to be while they milk DLC money

Naw, it's done in that it has all the ieces but they needed a bit more polish, more VO and more storyline that would have gotten added if they had the time/money.

Maybe, I still just feel with their planned "robust DLC plans" they mentioned they were putting in place with SR4 that this was all they had intended. Sure, some more VO and story would be nice, but I think that is all planned and implemented at the price of $4-$10 every couple of weeks

I don't like the fact I have to keep going back to the ship every side quest. We're talking in constant communication, there's no reason I have to go back out of the simulation to turn something in.

Also, yes the fact that side quests are just veneers on doing stuff I'd rather be doing freeform bugs me. It's one thing to just tell me, hey go conquer 100% of a territory then we'll talk, or amass XXX amount of mayhem points and we'll advance the mission. That opens it up for me to just wander. This game has almost zero wandering. It's far too directed in my time around the city.

As the game progresses the pixel glitch effects get quite obnoxious in their frequency, I wish I could turn that stuff off.

Nothing prevents you from doing a bunch of the side quests and then making a trip back to the ship to turn in several at once. I do agree though that the game story line content is a bit lite. You basically get the rescue missions followed by the loyalty missions.

Still, one of the funniest games I've played in years, and while it was short, it was really intensely fun.

Missed this, but wardens are referred to as mini-bosses and finishing them happens with a button mashing QTE. So you've seen it and are not missing anything in regards to wardens/notoriety.


http://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/threads/non-glitching-city.4207/

Download the file in that thread and simply put it in your steam\steamapps\common\Saints Row IV\ directory (or whatever it is, I'm going from memory right now).

Or, use additional cheats (http://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/threads/additional-cheats.3212/) and use noglitchcity as the code. The mod is simply so cheats don't flag your game as using the cheats.

If you're bothered by (or enjoy) the rift activity's effects on people (where citizens get huge eyes/heads/walk funny/etc) you can use this mod (http://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/threads/extended-rifts-radius.3214/) to decrease or increase the radius


Other good mods to be considered by anyone:
Increased Super Genki Spawn (http://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/threads/ported-mod-genki-spawn-mod-10-day-30-night.3725/)
Easy Warden QTE (http://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/threads/requested-mod-simple-wardens-qte.4653/)
Disable radial menu (http://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/threads/disable-radial-menu.4548/) - awesome in that it doesn't bring up that window when changing weapons
intensive hardcore mod (http://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/threads/intensive-hardcore-mod.3876/) will make the game a lot harder and will add previous game's gangs into the enemies table (they come with super powers too)
Random encounters (http://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/threads/random-encounters-mod.4648/) makes things even harder with various handicaps at randomly fought encounters
Extra clothing and makeup colors (http://www.saintsrowmods.com/forum/threads/extra-clothing-colors-and-extra-makeup-colors.3215/)

I wound up ignoring a lot of the side quests and not picking them up for quite some time, just doing stuff.  Then, when I came back to the side quests, half or more of the objectives were pre-completed, because they generally point you at stuff that already exists in the world.  If you do it on your own before getting the quest, what happens is you go up to the NPC, talk to them, then check your quest and you've already completed everything, so you can talk to them again and it turns in instantly.

Yes I found that out last night, and that removes some of my objection, but the fact they are still out there in that fashion is sort of  :uhrr:

We're obsessed with quests now in game design. God help the gamer that doesn't have a bright red line pointing to the next thing they are supposed to do.  :oh_i_see:

Yea, this. I had gotten so completionist at one point, knocking out the glowy things and doing all the location-unlocking minigames, I ended up with almost every area you could unlock this way unlocked. By the time I rescued Kinzie, there were dozens of subsequent side-quest tasks already complete.

So they got that part right anyway :-)

I'm not a completionist and I hate the mini games in this game, but I do want stuff like life leach and lightning that are locked behind the side quests aka mini games.

I kinda found lightning lame. Leach was useful til I maxed the vacuum distance and effectiveness of health. My favs are still Stomp, Ice, and Telekinisis. That is unless there's a tall enough building for nuke :-)

Damn, I know nobody but myself remembers, but I really wish I had saved "Arise Rodimus Topic" (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=7307.msg418636#msg418636) for this thread, given the power suit moment near the end. Every time I hear that damned song, it's stuck in my head for days :grin:

Really enjoyed it. The weakest parts of the game for me were the ones that were just SR3 retreads. Not bad per se, but I had just finished that one before this one, so it was too fresh to feel like a throwback. I'll still 100% it though because nothing else on the PC grabs me at the moment.

Why is that link off-limits to me?  :heartbreak:

Cause it's in the private EVE board.

Oh shit sorry, I didn't bother looking at the thread after Search unearthed it.

Steam had it on sale this weekend, I feel like I just played an episode of Archer. In fact, they really should make an Archer game next instead of Saints Row.

My overall review, I wasn't sold on the premise, but it actually worked and I laughed a lot.

I just found this new 'DLC' (http://store.steampowered.com/app/255050/)

Ready the commentary - just another sign of a company that truly gets it  :why_so_serious:

On Flash Sale on Steam right now for $19.99 (60% off). All DLC is on sale too.

Gat Out of Hell

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moE-nxRVwPY

"Naw, I said, 'in the face'"

Just so far over the top. The last game was too far over for me, which sucks because they've really refined the engine nicely. I'll probably skip (or 90% off) this one and continue to hope they go for a reboot or something.

Yay, let's center a DLC around the worst character in the group.

But I like Kinzie!

Yea I enjoyed IV, but loved III. I'm curious if there's a V and if they go back to being "real". I want to think IV was set inside a video game or some elaborate movie plot extension of the end of III. But this DLC is too much, kinda FC3:Blood Dragon too much, a joke pushed too far.

I can't help but think it'll be hard for them to step back to the level of SR3.  In general, you want every sequel to be bigger and more epic and (in the case of SR) crazier and more extreme than the last one, or else it looks like you're not living up to the previous game.  But in this case there's a lot of people who liked SR3 more than SR4.  There's really only two ways I can think to go with SR5: either continue with full sci-fi wackiness (time travel or space travel or whatever) which will crank the game even farther from it's roots and make the game really risky to market, or retcon 4 and completely piss of everyone who liked it.  Or I guess they could just reboot the series completely, SR4 makes a good bow for the series.

Go out while you're on top.  Wrap the series up, and move on to something new. 

Or, do what everyone else does, and crap out a lackluster sequel, or three, milk the cow dry, and silently fade in to obscurity. 

Makes good business sense - they have a good name, a well-regarded franchise, a strong following. Why not stop?  :roll:

If sales are still strong for the SR franchise, maybe allow the vets to skunkwork out a new franchise while pumping out the ridiculousness for SR.

I don't see buying any of their new stuff after playing SR4.

SR4 was amazing. You are all broken.

I thought that SR4 was going to be the last one and that they were going to work on a reboot or a new IP.

I thought so, as well. Apparently the milk cart is not going to get spilt. If they beat the devil this time, maybe next time they kill god. I have a feeling they're in a corporate mood of thinking anything more over the top is better and will continue to push it as far as they can.

Like I said, it must be working for them still; but I wish they'd split out a second dev cycle for a more traditional open world crime sim.

THQ went bankrupt partway through developing it, and I don't think Deep Silver bought the rights to the IP just to give it a proper burial.  Given that Silver's catalog of recent releases is a parade of wonders that currently runs something like "X: Rebirth" "Dead Island: Riptide" and "Ride to Hell: Retrubution" I'd be surprised if they weren't trying to get some positive name association for once with Saint's Row 5 colon r-something.

Gat out of Hell seems more like Undead Nightmare than SR5. Especially, since, you know, we know it's not SR5. You might call it Substantial DLC. We used to call them expansion packs and they'd hit retail 6-12 months after the main box.

Gat out of Hell is just a really big DLC - they aren't charging full price for it. They plan on bundling it with SR4 for next gen boxes at regular game price for both.

Oh, and its a parody of Disney Princess Movies. It has musical numbers throughout it.

Reasons 84 and 85 to ignore it!

Different Strokes. SR4 was one of my top 3 games for that year. It was stupid as hell, but it was fun.

I liked SR4 until about 50% into the game. Then it just, I just couldn't...

It wasn't fun to finish some of the mini-games. Which is really the whole damn point of the game.

Some of the mini games did suck the enjoyment right out for me as well.

Guardian Angel is horrible. I really disliked the tower stuff. Snatch missions are horrible and heli assault was bad too.

Just finished SR: The Third, which I started when it came out and then periodically poked at every now and then till this week where I thrashed it from 30% completion to 100%... I don't know what put the bug in me to do so, but I'm very glad I did. I have SR:IV in my library and I'm raring to go, but the character upload/transfer feature is totally dead at the moment, has been for months and doesn't look like it'll be operational again for a while. I really do not want to start SR:IV with a new character. Way too invested in the one I made for The Third.

You could just write down your SR3 face slider positions and reenter them in 4. They use the same values and it's not like the import transfers any decisions you made in the previous game.

Ahh, that might be the best answer for now then; I hadn't counted on the character builder being the same in IV. Thanks.

Yeah, the only reason I bothered was so I could get my outfit and massive number of tats to transfer.