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Title: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: Outlawedprod on July 13, 2012, 06:07:27 PM http://toucharcade.com/2012/07/13/armed-heroes-sees-canadian-release-trailer-is-pretty-flashy/
Travis Baldree, President of Runic Games says direct rip of assets and they are contacting Apple. http://forums.toucharcade.com/showpost.php?s=9bd4b2da13e1e5bec00eda838c7e8e38&p=2345376&postcount=26 Game's official site. Claims mmorpg. http://ah.eglsgame.com/ Title: Re: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: Shatter on July 13, 2012, 07:03:55 PM "UPDATE: This is awkward. Moments ago we got an email from Travis Baldree, President of Runic Games, who gave us the heads up that every asset they've come across in the game so far is lifted directly from Torchlight. We'd usually catch stuff like this, but unfortunately Torchlight is amongst the bazillion Steam games I own and haven't played yet. The good news is, if you thought this game looked cool, Torchlight is available on Steam for the Mac and PC for $8.99 as part of Steam's massive summer sale. That's 40% off for those of you playing along at home. -Eli"
Uhhhhh Title: Re: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: Malakili on July 13, 2012, 08:21:04 PM Ok, look, I'm no insider in the gaming industry, but this looks pretty bad. Can someone who knows what they are talking about explain if something like this could possibly happen by accident?
Title: Re: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: MahrinSkel on July 13, 2012, 10:28:04 PM It couldn't, really. There have been cases where someone "borrowed" assets for prototyping and something from that slipped through into a beta or even a final product, but to launch with that many assets lifted directly from another game...it's hard to see how that could happen by accident.
--Dave Title: Re: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: Trippy on July 13, 2012, 10:49:26 PM It's a mainland China company that developed the game. That's all you really need to know, sadly.
Title: Re: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: Amaron on July 15, 2012, 11:04:12 AM It's a mainland China company that developed the game. That's all you really need to know, sadly. Torchlight is owned by Perfect World though. So this isn't just a case of them ripping off some foreign company. Title: Re: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: Scold on July 15, 2012, 11:33:39 AM It's a mainland China company that developed the game. That's all you really need to know, sadly. Torchlight is owned by Perfect World though. So this isn't just a case of them ripping off some foreign company. Oh, Chinese firms rip each other off plenty. Title: Re: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: Merusk on July 15, 2012, 06:30:24 PM They ripped-off Blizzard assets as well. Some of the armors are exact rips of old WOW armors. One of the posts I read pointed out Warlock tier 3 or 4 for one of the necro sets.
Title: Re: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: Khaldun on July 15, 2012, 06:48:18 PM Oh, dear, how did that happen? I'm shocked, shocked to find gambling going on here.
Title: Re: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: Pendan on July 16, 2012, 02:33:44 PM Ok, look, I'm no insider in the gaming industry, but this looks pretty bad. Can someone who knows what they are talking about explain if something like this could possibly happen by accident? The company I work for has outsourced some art work from China. It is possible for a contractor to give the same artwork to two different employers. Still would not expect it to be most assets.Title: Re: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: Phred on July 16, 2012, 09:22:23 PM Bah. Signing up for reading comprehension 101 tonight
Title: Re: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: Outlawedprod on July 17, 2012, 01:23:43 PM EGLS responds:
Quote We sincerely hope that Mr. Travis Baldree can note that the similarity between Armed Heroes and Torchlight may be due to that we both learn from Blizzard, unless you are suggesting that except you the rest must not learn these advanced skills from Blizzard who has long been one of the great leaders within the industry. http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?t=144793Grab yo popcorn this is gonna get good. Title: Re: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: Amaron on July 17, 2012, 03:24:21 PM Nah they are toast:
http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?p=2349850#post2349850 They've reduced the poly's on some of the models they ripped but they left too much evidence. Title: Re: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: Fordel on July 17, 2012, 03:56:36 PM They ripped-off Blizzard assets as well. Some of the armors are exact rips of old WOW armors. One of the posts I read pointed out Warlock tier 3 or 4 for one of the necro sets. Yea, that's what I saw right away too. Oops. :why_so_serious: Title: Re: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: MahrinSkel on July 17, 2012, 04:46:30 PM Nah they are toast: Those darned mispellings will get you every time. Time for them to call the lawyers, I think (although the details of how the US subsidiary of a Chinese company sues another Chinese company for IP infringement...).http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?p=2349850#post2349850 They've reduced the poly's on some of the models they ripped but they left too much evidence. --Dave Title: Re: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: Phred on July 17, 2012, 06:13:53 PM Nah they are toast: Those darned mispellings will get you every time. Time for them to call the lawyers, I think (although the details of how the US subsidiary of a Chinese company sues another Chinese company for IP infringement...).http://forums.toucharcade.com/showthread.php?p=2349850#post2349850 They've reduced the poly's on some of the models they ripped but they left too much evidence. --Dave According to the poster from Runic they just want the game delisted from the APP store. He says they aren't interested in legal hassles. Title: Re: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: UnSub on July 17, 2012, 07:36:42 PM Delisting exact clones / cloned assets would potentially open a can of worms though and reduce the number of apps in the App Store. Apple might just as easily say, "Deal with your IP issues yourself."
Title: Re: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: Kail on July 17, 2012, 08:49:31 PM Delisting exact clones / cloned assets would potentially open a can of worms though and reduce the number of apps in the App Store. Apple might just as easily say, "Deal with your IP issues yourself." Is that a viable strategy? I thought the whole Napster thing was the courts saying "You distribute the content, you're responsible for it being legit," hence the reason why Youtube is constantly pulling videos with copyrighted music in them and the whole Megaupload raid thing happened. Title: Re: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: UnSub on July 18, 2012, 06:29:15 PM The approach there is more a case of having to pull the content if asked, but leaving it up there until then until asked to investigate it because that way you have a bigger range and attract more eyeballs.
YouTube could do a lot more to prevent violating content ever being uploaded, but they don't, because it attracts viewers (and I believe they've been caught in internal emails saying as much). I'm guessing Apple is the same. I'm interested to see which side Apple of this argument Apple sides with - the app developer who's making them money or the software developer on a different platform. Title: Re: Armed Heroes iOS mmorpg steals Torchlight assets Post by: Merusk on July 19, 2012, 05:03:49 AM The approach there is more a case of having to pull the content if asked, but leaving it up there until then until asked to investigate it because that way you have a bigger range and attract more eyeballs. YouTube could do a lot more to prevent violating content ever being uploaded, but they don't, because it attracts viewers (and I believe they've been caught in internal emails saying as much). I'm guessing Apple is the same. I'm interested to see which side Apple of this argument Apple sides with - the app developer who's making them money or the software developer on a different platform. Yes, DMCA says they have to pull it if asked but the burden is on the Copyright holders to find offending material. Napster was in violation because they didn't pull material, instead saying "Hey we're just the middleman." That doesn't fly anymore. The SOPA & PIPA laws that were nearly passed earlier this year shifted that burden to the content distributors and didn't allow for fair-use. Meaning pretty much the death of the internet outside of shared corporate networks had they passed. No private movie reviews, discussions of media in electronic format outside of corporate permission, etc. |