Title: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: UnSub on June 19, 2012, 01:11:26 AM Apparently top-end gear in DUST 514 only costs 24c to acquire.
Until you die, then you lose it and it's another 24c to buy it again (http://www.joystiq.com/2012/06/18/high-end-gear-in-dust-514-costs-24-cents-in-real-money/#comments). There's a kind of genius to a death-based payment system in an FPS. (And you can also apparently spend ISK on it too, but that's not anything new.) Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Kageru on June 19, 2012, 05:14:16 AM I guess it's not impossible, World of Tanks has real money ammunition after all. But I think they really over-estimate how much people are going to care about dust, they need to offer something much better than other shooters to justify that sort of thing and I don't think the "strategic" ties to Eve are going to do that. Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Dark_MadMax on June 19, 2012, 07:10:30 AM Yeah In WoT you can buy premium ammo and consumables. Question is how attainable this "top -end " gear without cash
Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Mrbloodworth on June 19, 2012, 07:14:10 AM Virtual Cabinet machine.
Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Hawkbit on June 19, 2012, 07:19:51 AM Moving left, right and back are free. But moving forward costs a nickel per second.
Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Amarr HM on June 19, 2012, 07:44:04 AM Virtual Cabinet machine. Insert coin to continue. Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Scold on June 19, 2012, 08:10:27 AM I guess it's not impossible, World of Tanks has real money ammunition after all. But I think they really over-estimate how much people are going to care about dust, they need to offer something much better than other shooters to justify that sort of thing and I don't think the "strategic" ties to Eve are going to do that. It will if the combat landscape is actually planetary in scope and moves across the planet intelligently based on combat, a-la an improved version of Planetside, rather than being the equivalent of a CS1.6 server with 10 maps on rotation where the winning team gets to vote which map is played next. Being a sniper deep behind enemy lines trying to cut off their supply lines would be fun. CS1.6 where round results influence EVE spreadsheets would not be something I give a shit about. Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: tmp on June 19, 2012, 09:31:31 AM So, basically almost there
(http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/215525059_v6MX2-L-2.jpg) Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Ginaz on June 19, 2012, 09:22:42 PM From my understanding, you can buy the same gear with ISK, even ISK earned in EVE. Corporations and alliances in EVE could fund their DUST players. Or maybe I'm understanding it wrong? Either way, I don't see how this will get many more people to play EVE. The complexity of EVE would probably make most console kiddies brains explode.
Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Surlyboi on June 20, 2012, 03:49:48 AM It'll give me an excuse to blow the four billion I'm sitting on though.
Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Dark_MadMax on June 20, 2012, 07:41:46 AM It will if the combat landscape is actually planetary in scope and moves across the planet intelligently based on combat, a-la an improved version of Planetside, rather than being the equivalent of a CS1.6 server with 10 maps on rotation where the winning team gets to vote which map is played next. Being a sniper deep behind enemy lines trying to cut off their supply lines would be fun. CS1.6 where round results influence EVE spreadsheets would not be something I give a shit about. But there is real planetside 2 coming out .Which will be probably ages ahead of what DUST offers. Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: IainC on June 20, 2012, 08:03:22 AM I've played both. Currently Dust is the better game although there's a lot of development time yet to go on PS2.
Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Falconeer on June 20, 2012, 08:14:36 AM But there is real planetside 2 coming out .Which will be probably ages ahead of what DUST offers. And that comment is based on what? I am not saying you are wrong, I am saying you probably have no base for such statement. If you do, please share cause I am very interested in both projects. Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Sky on June 20, 2012, 08:19:09 AM I've played both. Currently Dust is the better game although there's a lot of development time yet to go on PS2. Isn't Dust console-only? That makes it a pretty easy decision.Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Mrbloodworth on June 20, 2012, 08:23:23 AM I'm not sure Dust and Planetside 2 are directly comparable. It's also seems Scold was just using it as an example of the type of progression in combat and "war game" would hopefully work.
Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Kageru on June 20, 2012, 08:30:34 AM The idea of CCP getting it right first time seems so out of character, and I'm not sure console FPS fans will be nearly as loyal.
Still, I look forward the release / NDA being dropped so I can see what they've got. Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: 5150 on June 20, 2012, 09:14:22 AM Bear in mind I think this is a different CCP studio creating Dust than Eve
I'm not going to say anything else due to NDA other than dont wory about Pay-to-win in Dust Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Amaron on June 21, 2012, 07:19:53 PM I hear this is going to support USB keyboards/mice. I'm fairly interested to see how that's going to work out actually. If they don't nerf the controls somehow I can see myself picking it up just to stomp on some console kiddies.
Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: 5150 on June 22, 2012, 04:49:03 AM I hear this is going to support USB keyboards/mice. I'm fairly interested to see how that's going to work out actually. If they don't nerf the controls somehow I can see myself picking it up just to stomp on some console kiddies. Lots asking for it but I havent seen anything concrete about it making it in - the concern is that, if it does, it'll pretty much be mandatory and just by looking at the Eve skill model you can see there are other barriers to competitiveness (read:entry) as well...... Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Dark_MadMax on June 22, 2012, 06:16:10 AM But there is real planetside 2 coming out .Which will be probably ages ahead of what DUST offers. And that comment is based on what? I am not saying you are wrong, I am saying you probably have no base for such statement. If you do, please share cause I am very interested in both projects. Planetside was already good fun game. It had many things right except for payment model. Its PC only (which means developers can go bananas on scale) DUST comes from the company which made EvE. The most boring spacecombat ever. How can you screw that? Watching paint dry is more fun. DUST is console project.Means 8v8 player limit or some such, tiny maps, , bad textures, draw distances of 50 meters. - of course its all speculation and based on Iainc comment I dont know what to think I'll trust my intution and though - I never liked single console FPS, I doubt this one will be different, especially coming from creators of EvE. It will look pretty though I bet Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Amarr HM on June 22, 2012, 06:41:29 AM DUST comes from the company which made EvE. The most boring spacecombat ever. How can you screw that? I find the 'spacecombat' more compelling in EvE than space invaders or asteroids. In fact I've been involved in some bloody exciting tête-à-têtes. Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Falconeer on June 22, 2012, 06:47:11 AM EVE is not for everybody, and it certainly has its flaws, but to fail to acknowledge what an overall awesome and unique game they created is kind of shortsighted in my opinion. From such a company I expect both huge blunders and amazing surprises, but nonetheless I see CCP as an incredibly talented bunch.
So while I am not sold on lots of Dust 514 things, I am definitely going to wait and see. Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Amaron on June 22, 2012, 11:34:06 AM I hear this is going to support USB keyboards/mice. I'm fairly interested to see how that's going to work out actually. If they don't nerf the controls somehow I can see myself picking it up just to stomp on some console kiddies. Lots asking for it but I havent seen anything concrete about it making it in What? It was confirmed by CCP already. Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Mrbloodworth on June 22, 2012, 11:58:21 AM But will it still have the aim assist?
Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Ingmar on June 27, 2012, 02:40:37 PM The complexity of EVE would probably make most console kiddies brains explode. The gameplay will make them fall asleep long before they run into any 'complexity'. :oh_i_see: I just can't see this being successful, for most of the reasons already listed in the thread. Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: satael on July 11, 2012, 12:46:51 PM I had a weak moment and bought the mercenary pack :oh_i_see:
Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: satael on July 26, 2012, 10:37:44 AM I have 2 PSN Voucher codes for access to this weekend’s closed beta which runs July 26th-30th if someone is interested.
edit:*Note: These PSN Voucher codes are region-specific and can only be used by players in Europe, South Africa, Australia, and New Zealand. Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Mrbloodworth on July 26, 2012, 11:03:06 AM Bah!
Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Gets on July 26, 2012, 11:42:35 AM Throw me one of them vouchers, yo! I want to try this out finally so I can order down a bunch of space tanks just so I'll have a stacked pile of space tanks of my own.
Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: Kageru on July 26, 2012, 04:59:46 PM Shouldn't this be out already? They seem to be taking quite a long time for a FPS. Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: LK on July 26, 2012, 06:33:26 PM Back-end is hard.
Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: UnSub on July 26, 2012, 07:24:54 PM Shouldn't this be out already? They seem to be taking quite a long time for a FPS. Ambulation. Title: Re: DUST 514 - Cashes To Ashes Post by: JWIV on July 26, 2012, 07:44:15 PM Got a code this afternoon to join the Beta. ;D PSN is down for maintenance so I can't redeem it. :mob:
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