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Or weird paradoxes in general ; any genre.

Yeah, I'm a sucker for them  :awesome_for_real: ; ok, well, beside Back to the Future, are there more "obscure" one you recommend watching?

On the top of my head:

- The Butterfly Effect (I LOVE it)
- The Machinist
- Umm...The "Final Destination" series ?
- Groundhog Day, of course

Err, probably I've seen others I can't remember at the moment.

Timecop, obviously.  :why_so_serious:

EDIT: Time After Time, if you want to see Malcolm McDowell playing HG Wells chasing Jack the Ripper around in a time machine. I can't actually remember if this movie is good or not.

Time Bandits.  :heart:
Primer

Primer was good.

Donnie Darko.

MST3K classic Time Chasers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DReQfeqk3k (part 1)

Future War had time travel too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so-vHyYjgZk

Duh, I've seen Donnie Darko twice, actually  :uhrr: ; "cult movie", yeah, but...I don't know, it's a little dragged out, IMO

Primer sounds quite interesting (looked it up on Wikipedia) ...

>Time Bandits.
What was the paradox?

Back to the future - duh

Twelve Monkeys

Would you also count nonchronological narratives like Memento?

Time Travellers Wife. 

Such a Romantic Story that appealed to my very heart.

(It was Shite.)

Timecrimes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0480669/)

Don't watch the trailer.

Yeah, why not...Memento was quite unique :)

Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure

Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban

The Terminator/T2

Hot Tub Time Machine (if you grew up in the 80s)

The Prestige (sorta)

EDIT: None of these are obscure, but only ones I can think of!

Triangle (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1187064/)

Don't watch the film.

Primer WAS good.

Looper looks like it could be good.

Source Code.

Frequency.

Didn't even think about this one, but fuck yeah. That movie was SUPER AWESOME.

Next, with Nicolas Cage.  Actually not bad, all things considered (it being Nicolas "I'll do any movie that will meet my quote" Cage, and a groaner of a surprise twist).

--Dave

The final countdown. The USS Nimitz goes back to the Pacific 3 days before Pearl Harbor. 


Unfortunately, hilarity does not ensure, though you do get some F14 Tomcats attempting to dogfight Japanese Zero's.

Nerd alert!
Yea, as a young 10 year old, I couldn't understand why the Nimitz (the aircraft carrier) didn't rip Yamamoto (his Pearl Harbor attack fleet) a whole new one... I often wondered how long the IJN carriers (and the Battleship Yamato) would have lasted under attack from 1980's era Intruders with laser guided munitions (no nukes). The answer: not long but the Yamato might take a bit more effort.

Planet of the Apes?

I think we're crossing time travel with time paradox (though really, all time travel movies involve it in the end).

Still, I want to say Jet Li's "The One", even if it's not really correct.  I loved that movie for some reason!

Got my issues with this film but yeah, worth watching. Disasgree with pxib though - Triangle isn't that terrible and is worth watching for the Time Paradox element.

Others (of varying quality - for you to judge)

Flight of the Navigator
Les Visiteurs (original french version, not the 2001 US remake)
The Jacket (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0366627/)
Frequently Asked Questions about Time Travel (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0910554/) (a low budget British comedy with Chris O'Dowd)
Nothing Left To Do But Cry (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087814/) (Non ci resta che piangere) by Roberto Begnini - but good luck getting hold of it!
Midnight in Paris (Woody Allen film - sort of time travel)
Timescape (directed by David Twohy)
A Sound of Thunder (terribly bad and inadvertantly funny film by Peter Hyams based on a Ray Bradbury story - RIP.)
Trancers (fond memories of this from the 80s)
The Langoliers (Stephen King mini-series)
Millennium (aka the mystery of Cheryl Ladd's hairdo)
Timeline (Richard Donner directs a Michael Crichton story - not great but okay)

Edit: yeah, not all involve paradoxes at centre of the plot but whatever

I liked Triangle.

We're talking Chris Smith's time travel film, not the 80's BBC soap opera set on a North Sea ferry.

I know.  It had Angel in it.  She's lovely.

I have my issues too, it's one of the best time travel movies I've seen, I really enjoyed, but I'll never watch it again.

Primer certainly, really good example of how low budget scifi can still be effective.

Memento if you somehow haven't seen it - isn't about time travel, but it fits the feel of paradox movies.

Time After Time is in fact good. Worth seeing.

Funnily enough, I was just thinking I wouldn't mind seeing it again. Noticed it was on late night on Film4 recently or something - wish I'd recorded it.

The Philadelphia Experiment.  Though to be honest haven't seen since I was a kid so can't speak for the quality.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TemporalParadox

Actually, just search for "time paradox" and it will give you a bunch of the variations.  The only warning is that there tends to be some spoilers.

Fuck you. I just lost 2 hours of my life to that link.

Linking to TVTropes without a warning should be considered a grieflink, on a par with Goatse.

--Dave

Did you lose 2 hours because you time traveled?

Here:  http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TookALevelInBadass

Lose another few hours of your life.   :grin:

The Adjustment Bureau

Dont think that classifies as any kind of Time Paradox movie.  Rather, it is more about Pre-Determined Fate Vs Free Will.

This this this.  It hurt my brain the first watch.

'Course it does.  You just have to change your perspective to the man in charge.

I suppose.  I guess that brings up the question: Is it still a time paradox when the reference point is the Present, and changing the present alters the "expected" future, even though the future is not supposed to be pre-determined. 

All movies feature time paradoxes.*



*From the point of view of a n-dimensional observer where n>3

Nerd.

 :heart:

Are we even really watching a movie at all?
If not, there really isn't a paradox anyways even if the movie says there is.

Well, there was that real life documentary about the time paradox, but by a strange series of co-incidences, no-one saw it but me.

And now it's gone from the timeline.

If we're going with disjointed timelines like Memento, how about Mulholland Drive?

Millenium

Lunopolis

Don't make me stab you. That fucking movie... if it hadn't been for Naomi Watts getting the girls out, that movie would have made me more stabby than Lost Highway. And I wanted to kill homeless people over Lost Highway.

I remember watching this as a kid. I loved the movie.

Half the Star Trek movies, including the series reboot.

Event Horizon

Whut ?

Yeah I don't remember a time paradox in that film either.

I seem to remember someone posited a theory in the film that the ship had travelled in time, but it kinda hadn't.

It had just, you know, plopped into hell.

Lost in Space, though.  That had a time ship.  And SPIDERS.

Deja vu with Denzel W.

The ship per the logs did indeed leap outside the known universe (into another dimension) through a gateway in spacetime; that's what the ship was designed to do.  As for a 'time paradox,' it typically occurred in the shipmate's minds due to influence from said twisted dimension.

Nah, you don't get that one.

INVALID.

 :cry:

Going insane from jumping into the Warp and being corrupted by the Chaos Gods isn't a Time Paradox, though.  :awesome_for_real:

But even if you don't see Event Horizon as a prequel to Warhammer 40000, the actions there are linear with later action not influencing the previous timeline. Or did I miss something?

Thinking of it that way would have made the movie a lot better at the time of viewing.

I loved Event Horizon. 

Me too. I thought it was a very creepy horror movie in a sci-fi shell. Never understood why it got all the negative criticism it has.

Because everyone bashes on Paul W.S. Anderson and it flopped at the box office.

I liked it a lot too.

I didn't know it was supposed to be a horror movie.  I loved the creepy sci-fi, then it took a left turn.  I'm not a big horror buff, while I am a sci-fi buff, so it was very sudden and disappointing to me.  Kind of like the ending to ME3, from my perspective.

Did not enjoy. While there were a few good cinematographic moments, the story was paper thin and self-evident pretty much the whole time. Score was decent but often wandered into obtrusive and at a couple moments was rather annoying, but I prefer minimalist scores.


And I found Bale's thinness to be distracting, though he put in a decent role otherwise. I don't really see how it added anything to the movie, though.

Wait... how did I miss that in the first post? The Machinist isn't a time paradox film, not even close. It's not even told in a non-chronological order.