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Season #5 is over! Andy Davo won it again and is now banned from playing anything with pointy ears*.

The usual D&M pre-season is now over so spikes should be properly sharpened, gouging techniques perfected and slush funds topped up. Go get your copy of Blood Bowl Legendary Edition on Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/58520/) if you don't own it already and join us by posting here your intention to participate or asking questions.

Previous Editions Winners.

Season #1 - Aez's Fraggers (Skaven)
Season #2 - Comstar's F13 Catfighters (Amazons)
Season #3 - AndyDavo's Wishmasters Wildcards (Dark Elves)
Season #4 - AndyDavo's Paper Armour Dolls (Dark Elves)
Season #5 - AndyDavo's Paper Armour Dolls (Dark Elves)

*Not actually banned but hey, what about those Goblins eh?
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** f13 Blood Bowl League, Season #6 **


Start date is May 20th and sign-ups will close on May 18th

League is created f13 Season 6 password is fearchange

How is this gonna work?

- Depending on the number of teams, we'll make four divisions with the top half of each division advancing to the play-offs.
- Each team will have to play at least one match every 9 days. If ALL matches for one "game day" has been played, the League will advance to the next "game day" and the 9 days counter will be reset.
- Every Coach has to be a member of the ** f13 Bloodbowlers Steam Group (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/f13bb) ** in order to be able to participate in the League. If you are interested in joining the League please make sure to post here AND in the Steam Group, so I know who you are and that you fucking mean it.
- Every coach has to share a personal email address with all the other members of the League. Last year we tried with PM on this boards and Steam Group ones, it's not enough. If you are not willing to commit at least one of your precious email addresses to the League, then you are certainly not gonna take it seriously enough to ensure everyone's fun.
- Fixtures will be released before the League starts. Coaches have 9 days to try and set up an appointment with each other to play their match. If a match has not been played after 9 days, the League Manager will decide, after hearing both coaches, on an official result for that match, and will then advance the League to the next "game day".


What do I have to do to sign up?

- You have to post your intention in this very thread.
- You have to have a copy of >>Blood Bowl Legendary Edition. (http://store.steampowered.com/app/58520/)<< Sorry, no Regular or Dark elves Edition.
- For new coaches. When you create your online multiplayer Blood Bowl account in game, use the same name you have here on f13 if you can.
- You have to join the ** f13 Bloodbowlers Steam Group (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/f13bb) **. If you can, have your Steam name match your f13 name.
- You have to send me a PM with a valid email address. You will be sent an invitation mail there. You are supposed to reply to confirm you actually have access to said email address.
- All of the above are mandatory.



- EVERYONE can join, as long as you are from f13, meaning you have an account here. You can even make an account just for that but if you prove to be an imbecile before the League starts you'll be booted. You can invite friends from the outer world if you feel like it and as long as they are not complete muppets. They still have to join f13 and post here. Being new is not a problem, but this League works on participation, and just the right amount of trashtalk and cynical fairness. If you or your friends are not really forum people at all, maybe they can find a better League somewhere else.


If you have too many applications, how do you decide who's in and who's out?

- Since the League can't be more than 32 players, and we had a few more applications last year, there is a bit of a waiting list. That is based on a few factors, "first come first serve" NOT being one of them any more. And still, whoever doesn't make it into the Main Cut, will play a Qualification Round! to snag a wild card for the real thing. So, let's see how this works now:

Priority, from first to last:
* All those who participated in S#5.
* f13 Regulars who participated in S#1, S#2, S#3 or S#4.
* f13 Regulars who didn't participate in any previous Season.
* Non-regulars who participated in any previous Season (except S#5, of course. That bumps everyone in the first bracket).
* All non-regular new applicants.

Teams can apply to the Qualification Round! from the Feeder League the same way they apply to the Main League. The Qualification Round! is by all means part of the Main League, just not as cool.


How are the Divisions decided?

- In order to keep some sort of balance, the sortings for Season #6 Divisions will be arranged according to the Official f13 Ranking (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=21065.0), same way that Falc did with Season #5 (so no change here). But it is important to notice that each coach will be sorted according the Coach ranking, regardless of his or her team. So, if Strazos had won Season #4 and decided to start over with a 1000 TV team of noob hobbits, he will would have still been Top Tier in S#5. DO NOT FORGET THIS.


What should I expect from you?

- I'll keep updating this thread with League results, recaps, tables and pictures.
- I'll do my best to help you communicate with each other.
- I'll make sure the League won't die on some of you lazyasses.
- I'm putting up a final prize for the winner, in the form of a secret mystery gift!

And what do you expect from me?

- To be fair.
- To keep in mind that other people's fun is up to you too.
- To try and do your best to communicate with your weekly opponent and be reasonable when it comes to setting up the time and date for a match.
- To keep reading this thread and participate in the collective chaos of badmouthing everyone but yourself.
- To make sure that the winner of the game instantly uploads his/her replay to BBManager, or in case of a tie you agree on who's gonna do it. When in doubt, you both upload it. This will save me a lot of work, and will take you only a few seconds.

Actually, that seems lots of work on my part.

- Whatever.
- And not really.


When is this starting?

- About 3 weeks from now. You have all the time in the world to get your copy or receive your package if you purchased the boxed version. Start date is May 20th, 2012. Signup closes May 18th.


I don't know man, I suck at this game and I hate to lose.

- Fuck you.


What are the specific League rules?

You can only join with a team that:
- Has played in a previous main season and has not played any other games since then.
- Has participated in the f13 Feeder League (or/and) D&M pre-season Trophy (http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=21053.0)) or the Elfbowl and at the moment of joining the S#6 League has a maximum of 1300TV, 0 gold and a minimum of 11 players (including injured ones).
- You just created, and has a total of 0 matches ever played.

- Turns are 2 minutes. TWO minutes. So practice with that or you'll get burned and pissed once the League starts.
- Fouling out of frustration in turn 16 is not griefing, it's allowed, and you should stop crying now.


How are tiebreakers in the Divisions gonna be handled Playoff- and Failoff-wise?

They will be: Head to Head >> TD Difference >> TD For >> WORST TV considering the team's eleven best players including injured ones >> coin toss.


Why are you doing this, Iain?

-Because Falc is rubbish (but we love him anyway)




Who is already in? I'm only joining if the cool kids around here joined too, you know...

These are the applicants so far, the people in green have signed up and been accepted.:

1) - IainC
2) - Ruvaldt
3) - Falconeer
4) - Ulysees
5) - Luckton
6) - Bann
7) - HaemishM
8) - Proudft
9) - avaia
10) - Ingmar
11) - Drogg
12) - Sjofn
13) - Modern Angel
14) - Megrim
15) - Comstar
16) - Llyse
17) - Lamaros
18) - Ezrast
19) - Teleku
20) - AndyDavo
21) - Paelos
22) - Gruntle
23) - Eldaec
24) - Reborne
25) - Satael
26) - SirT
27) - Swiftblade
28) - Ironwood
29) -
30) -
31) -
32) -
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Get your copy (http://store.steampowered.com/app/58520/), sign up, bring a friend, kick asses and melt faces. This time it's gonna be :awesome_for_real:
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Fianna Chulain will be back for this.

Me! 

Ex-Presidents of Doom are running for reelection!   :drill:

And The Bell Jar Utd. is in for more fail!  :drillf:

I can't decide between trying to slim my Orcs down to the 1300 TV limit or rolling in with my Norse.  I'm leaning towards Orcs right now, but my Norse have some potential now that several have gotten one or two skill-ups.

I would have fun with either team, really, but if anyone wants to try and sway my decision, I'm game.  If there's no Norse representation in the season, I may go with them as well if Modern Angel does decide bring his Orcs out of retirement.

Post-edit: Also, AndyDavo should be restricted to the following teams: Ogre, Goblin, Halfling, Khemri, Vampire, and Nurgle  :grin:

You should play your Orcs.  Of course, I say that because I have a few claw beastmen who are pretty bloodthirsty after this long off-season.

Seriously though, those Orcs of yours nearly won the D&M Tourney.  Our deciding match was reasonably close.  Also, it's likely that only Modern Angel will also be playing Orcs so it'd be nice to have another squad in for this season.

The Minizillas return for their 3rd Season, only 3 more seasons till I win this thing if my form runs true and I get one step further each season!

Im in. I'm going to retire my human team and use my orc's from the feeder league, "The Explorers Club!"

My Skaven team is most certainly in.

My 1-0-5 human team is in!  What's the worst that could happen?   :grin:

In with whatever the hell the name of my nurgle team was last season.

I was going to put the dwarves on the shelf for a season or two, but now that a new version is coming out and I'll have to start all new teams anyway, I will trot them out one more time for a farewell tour.

i'm in!  i'll have to spend a few days consulting the bones/spirits/entrails before i pick a team, tho.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LczTW42Fg5E/TdJ--QsTKKI/AAAAAAAAAAU/O14NHaCc9L8/s1600/thor-painting_jpeg.jpeg)

Here come the Norse, bitches!

Bringing back TEAM SNOOSNOO!

Yes. ah! ah! ah!

I'm in. The F13 Catfighters need to ALL have blodge and Guard.

Alive not Dead! ready to play golf, I mean BLOOD BOWL!!!  :drill: :grin: :drill:

I'm going to goblin your asses.

I'm in. Not sure if I'm bringing back 7 Deadly or if I'll have to create a... Crazy 8's or something.

So, if we end up with less people for this season (shock! gasp! horror!), do we perhaps want to try and mess around with a different league structure as well? Or would that be too complicated?

What type of 'other' structure?  One that allows teams built in the open general leagues perhaps?

Never!!

I think 'other' structures might relate to different divisional setups, post-season setups or maybe even no divisions at all.  Swiss-style matching, double round robin, etc.  I like Season 5's structure, but Megrim is right.  If we're not going to have 32 teams it'll need to be altered.

Also, I think the official f13 rankings haven't been updated from Season 5.

I was thinking of something along those lines. I haven't got any concrete suggestions for the time being, but maybe if we tried something like two divisions (so 9 teams each), with everyone playing each other twice for a start. Then you could add in bye weeks, cross-divisional games, top 3 + 1 wildcard from each division going into play-offs, etc...

The most obvious problem is going to be wether this is all (reasonably) doable withing the current Cyanide format, and/or if it is, it may be too much work for Ian.

Two divisions I can definitely see.  Four divisions just wouldn't make much sense for 18 coaches.  Maybe with 20 coaches, but you'd have to have double round robin or you just wouldn't have many matches.

I'd worry a structure in which 9 teams play each other twice would lead to an overly long regular season.  It works for the NFL, but I just don't know how many people really want a 16 game season.  I would love it, personally, but I am inclined to think that a season almost triple the length of previous seasons would be too large of a commitment for many coaches.

It wouldn't be possible under the crazed Cyanide division setup to have two divisions of nine teams, but running a tournament without the in-game structure isn't that much more difficult for the commissioner.  It sucks to not be able to approve/decline games though; in open leagues there is no approval mechanism.

Nine teams twice is way long and I don't think I'd want to play in that case.

I think a 7 game season is about my limit.

EDIT: It also may just be that a lot of our participants stopped checking this forum because the hiatus was so long.

What?! You mean they don't wake up every morning f5ing the BloodBowl forum?

I only visit to see the BB news these days. I stay for the picture threads.

Back in with the Hippies.

If you haven't already you should post something to the steam group and even set an event which should trigger a pop up for most people that they can click on telling them about the thread/season/dates.

Unfortunately it doesn't look as though I have permission to create events in the Steam group. Maybe that's a thing that only Falc can do (he's the only administrator of that group).

Are you signing up Hoax?

On that note, can you ask Falc to finally validate my last Failoffs match?

We could, I dunno, also advertise on the main f13.net home page, but that might make people think that something still goes on here  :why_so_serious:

We have a front page?

Validating things now. I remember I was going to do it one day but the servers were down, so I didn't.

Also, yes, bsed on signups we should/could change league structure accordingly. It sucks how unflexibnle the BB in-game system is.

Finally, I am gonna see if I can give full permissions to IainC on the BB Steam Group.

Oh and yes, I'll update the rankings!

Thank you!

I will happily sign up for season 6, but will i be allowed in with my elves?

South Park Smackdown is back for more.

Sign me up -- I'll even bring back the same team so the rest of you can relive those old moments of beating them again.
...Or maybe they're due?

-G

I shall be in - probably with the perennially underachieving Silver Horde.

Another season of boneheads?
Count me in!

Hmm if Chaos Edition is coming maybe I should give ol' Pointy Hat Squad another run instead of my loser untried humans.  Decisions, decisions!

sign me up for some bb fun;)

I still have yet to get some games in with my Orcs to try and make them qualify-able for the season.  Since Chaos is just around the corner, I may just say screw it and roll with either my Chaos or Norse teams, which both qualify right now.  Halfings could also be fun again (I got one with Block now  :drill:).

Or I could just start a new team.  Decisions...

I'm not as busy anymore luckton so will be happy to give your BlackRock Orcs some easy matches if you still have Monday's off :D

Sitting out this season - haven't been around consistently enough to play responsibly.

So what's going on with this? Is this thing dead?

Nope, been a bit busy but I created the league and you should all apply. I will do the traditional seeding video tomorrow or Monday depending on when I have time.

Currently we have 25 players expressing an interest. I don't want to have any byes so I'd really appreciate it if we got at least one more player so that we can have even numbers per division.

The following people from Season 5 haven't signed up so I'll PM them but if anyone wants to bring in a friend then that would be cool as I know that at least two of those people aren't going to sign up.
Celer
Krummi
Ramas
Strazos
Brocktoon
SirT
Cancklebiter

The league is called f13 Season 6 and the password is fearchange

I'm Brocktoon! :D

Fine, after IanCs begging PM I'll sign up. I haven't had the sweet feeling of having my balls kicked in a long time so i guess I'll get some ointment.

I'll have a look at the teams again to see what to play, not that it will make a lot of difference to the losing streak. Might stick with the pink dwarves.

I'm Ramas and on the list already.

Zellar Dwellarz has applied.

I was planning on taking this season off, as I've got a lot of irons in the fire right now.  But if you need one more team to even things out once this last batch of folks joins today, my arm could be twisted.

Hmm my elves are in worse shape than I remember, plus they have no theme, so humans have applied.  With their 1-1-5 feeder league record, this should be exciting.  I blame Ingmar for ruining the Beetles. 

Hrm. I amazingly havent deleted the folder with this thing since the last season and I find that there's been a patch?

Hrm. I guess I'll have to find it or DL the whole thing again before I can apply. If by some happy chance theres enough without me go ahead.

We're on 26, which means groups of 2 or of 13.

Add you and we'll have 27. Which is a prime number.

Either way we're in the hell that is all numbers between 25 and 31.

Decided to throw caution to the wind and submitted my fledgling Norse team.  Let the good times roll.   :awesome_for_real:

Applied.

I applied in game. Primed and ready to fail!

On a side note, well done with the Steam event.
I totally would have forgotten that this is kicking into gear today if that hadn't have reminded me  :awesome_for_real:

Ok, i have the patch. I'll head in with the Dwarves I guess. whats the password 4 the league (pm it IanC if you want it private)

Applied!

Applied

Ok. I applied with the dwarves. Briefly considered making a skaven team but decided against it.

Applying tonight, but didn't seem to need a patch...

Back to Sanctuary...  :awesome_for_real:

Will apply tomorrow night - away from PC atm.

Okies, app sent.

will send my app in when i get home tonight - 8ish hours from now.

Yeah Iain, I'm in. Brand new starting team.

Oh ho, do we have even more new people joining up?

Yay, I'm not the Probie anymore ^_^

I think you got bonus cred for playing Hobbits.

Applied, password is on page 2 of this thread instead of opening post...

Bleh, I know I signed up, but I am now being lame and backing out, because I am just not feeling it at all.

Just pretend you're managing a team of Demon Hunters  :grin:

I sincerely love my Norse dudes, but I just don't think I have it in me for another season. :P

My BB isn't running for some reason. Possibly related to me not having proper internet at the moment.

I will be trying to apply asap.

oops i totally forgot because i bought groceries on the way home and my tiny brain can only track one errand at a time!  will do this tonight tho.  for sure.

Applied!  :drillf:

Iain have we got a tentative start date for the bloodbath to begin? Am looking forward to getting back into the fray with my lizards.

Iain's OP says May 20 was the start date... Just realised it's May 23rd.

 :why_so_serious:

As soon as everyone has applied ingame I'll do the seeding and start the league.

Sorry, this slipped off my radar for a minute. When I get home from work today I'll install BB and apply to the league.

shit - meant to do this yesterday - set thingy to remind me to do it  tomorrow. Sorry if I'm holding it up.

installed and applied.

Man, blood bowl is one of the more annoying games to install via steam. You would think they had the NOC list in there or something. Hope they spend as much time on the UI for the next version as they do on the copy protection.

Well, this is what I get for not waiting for a Steam version. Nexway isn't giving me a download link so I'm going to have to try to get an installer from somewhere else. If I don't get this done soon feel free to go on without me.

If you need a dl link I can temporarilly pm you my Gamestop account details so you can download it, and then change my password when you are done.

This whole thing has made me realise I still have to choose between my one-turning rats and my underachieving Norse who have a far better gimmick. Hmmm.

That would be very cool of you. Just the standard SecuROM stuff on it, right? I was smart enough to keep my activation and player keys.

Ok. PM sent.

When I try to start the game I get the following msg:

"This game is currently unavailable.
Please try again at another time."

What gives?

My app should be in thanks to Sir T being awesome.

https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4595-wexn-6831

Unless it goes away on its own - delete your blob file.

I applied.

Cool, so we're just waiting on AndyDavo and Lamaros at the moment as Sjofn has backed out. I've PMed them already but if anyone else knows a way to get their attention then please point them at this thread again. If they haven't signed up by Sunday morning or at least responded to PMs I'll start the league anyway without them.

If those two do get in then that gives us 26 players which isn't ideal but is at least an even number.

How close are you to an ideal number?

Currently there are 24 teams actually in the league. If AndyDavo and Lamaros both sort their shit out then we have 26. All even numbers between 26 and 39 inclusive are equally awkward but still preferable to any odd numbers. 32 is the ideal number but we won't have that unless everyone from Season 5 signs up again.

If we go ahead with 24 then that's three divisions of 8. 26 means 2 divisions of 8 and one of 10. In both cases we need to do some messing around to make playoffs work out nicely - I'll probably have a regular 16 team playoff and make the failoffs a post season league with two or more divisions to keep the total number of games low.

Thanks. Checking all that stuff out now.

So far no luck.

Applied!

Might be worth some posting in the PC gaming blood bowl thread.

Never stop bumping the PC gaming blood bowl thread.

I begged persuaded Ironwood to sign up so we at least have even numbers as it doesn't look as though AndyDavo is reading PMs or Steam chat.

As soon as Ironwood has signed up in-game I'll do the seeding video.

We're missing the a few people from previous seasons, if any of you can prod them and get them to sign up right the fuck now then they can still get in - they have about 5 hours from the time of this post to at least PM me and tell me they are joining.

Alrighty, Seeding is done, video is uploading Right Now!

We're going to have to have three divisions in two different leagues as otherwise we need to mess about with open leagues and byes.

So, there will be two divisions of 8 teams each - these will stay in the current league - and one parallel league with one division of 10 players who will need to join the new league that I have set up already will set up as soon as the Bloodbowl platform comes back up..

Playoffs will be the top four from each of the three divisions plus the next best four players from all the divisions. These four wildcard spots will be awarded on points then TD difference and then TDs against. For the purposes of these wildcard spots, teams from the 10 player division will only count their first 7 games.

Everyone not in the playoffs (12 players) will be in a failoff knockout league.

Seeding Video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVyad1zrdSY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVyad1zrdSY)

So the seeding is as follows:

Tamurkhan Division - People in this division do not need to move.
Satael - Warpcheese Disciples
Luckton - Ymiron's G6 Crew
Haemish - Zellar Dwellerz
Ingmar - Beardstorm!
Ironwood - Ironwood's Itchers
Ulysees - The Minizillas
IainC - Fianne Chulain
Megrim - Insatiable

Warhammer 40k Division - People in this division do not need to move.
Lamaros - Goblin Baby
Falconeer - Bell Jar United
Brocktoon - Team Snoo Snoo
Catfud - Alive Not Dead
Teleku - Hazardous Hippies
Paelos - Southpark Smackdown
Reborne - Reborne's Wrestlers
SirT - THe Pimpernels

Hordes Division - People in this division must quit the league and rejoin the new one, this is called f13 Season 6 - Hordes Division and has the password fearchange
Ramas - Ermine Vermin
Proudft - Wissenland Whalers
Ezrast - 7 Deadly
Avaia - Bleating
Gruntle - Nifty Helmets
Drogg - Hunqua Hunqua Burninluv
Bann - The Explorers Club
Swiftblade - The Camptown Orcboyz
Ruvaldt - The Ex Presidents of Doom
Comstar - F13 Catfighters


Move if you need to and as soon as everyone is in the right place I'll start the league.

YAY WOO DWARF DIVISION XDD

Goddamn, Iain, you're metal as fuck.

My division seems extremely strong.  It's going to be a fun season.

Just watched the video. Awesome work Iain. So calling Catfud hhryce from now on.

Huh.

Great job with the draw vid IainC. Looking forward to the carnage!

Stellar job. I should never be allowed to do a seeding video after this.

Yours are awsome too Falc, never fear.

Well, fock.

Haha, my Goblins got some fun things to play with.

Always nice to be first out among the utter shite unlucky seeds.

"Unfortunately I don't have an accent, this is what English sounds like when spoken properly"

"Fuck Cyanide"  :drill: :drill: :drill:

There is no such thing as an "American Accent".  So obviously (backed up by all the movies I see), our form of English is the correct form.   :why_so_serious:

Great video!  Looking forward to this season.  May the best Wood Elf win!

It's going to be at least 2 days before I can move my team or be able to play a game.

I've heard of bloodbowl before, doesn't it involve sticks and a goal post or something? Looking forward to racing you guys later.

Nurgle training camp is underway.

i'll hop over tonight. excited!

Pushed some buttons.

Possibly not the right buttons.

So my opponents are rats, rats, rats, wood elves, lizards, vampires and Norse. This may be the bloodiest season ever. (Also possibly the least forgiving of positioning errors.)

There are three rats in our division?! Holy balls, what the hell is this cheesy sorcery?

Tamurkhan, the Hares and Tortoise division
Warhammer 40k, the Comedy and Dead Players division
Hordes, the 'Poor Rats, we hardly knew ye' division

I don't underestand the dead players reference, but wow no Undead and only 1 Necromantic.

Damn we're Chaos and Rat heavy this season...  :drill:

Trolls/Goblins and Ogres/Snotlings, as well as as Falc's swarm of battered 6AV Amazons. Probably an ideal setup for the Necromantic, no real dangers. Teleku might get bashed though.

Applied to hordes.

Man, my nub humans are so dead.    :ye_gods:

Well, the khemri would have also gotten royally pounded in their current state of decrepitude.  At least I have a dodge/pass/runthefuckaway option vaguely there with the hoomans.

Oh fuck...I gotta go against Beardstorm?   :ye_gods:

Well, you could be in the x3 Chaos, 2x Ork, x2 Lizard division =p

This is true.  I'll try and make things somewhat exciting for the rat pack.  Hell, most of their games thus far have been against Skaven.  Lost them, of course, but SPP is SPP, I guess.

I am glad I'm the only Chaos in my division.

The two Chaos teams in Hordes who are not the Ex-Presidents are pretty new.  It's not likely that they'll be the murderous propagators of destruction that many associate with advanced Chaos teams.

Ahem.  Nurgle.

I was at first moved to defend my Nifty Helmets here (returning for their third f13 season) but on reflection, I must concede the validity of Ruvaldt's claim, as we do indeed suck massive goaty balls.